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Ennis, Cassie and the Twists (revised title)
silkncense:
David - I agree that Jack lost a lot of hope after the 'divorce' scene and we don't ever see either of them smiling & relaxed again w/ each other, but Jack continued to try and move Ennis forward throughout the film:
"You going to do this again next summer?"
"What are we goina do now?" (Motel scene)
"It could be like this, just like this always"
"You & Alma, that's a life?"
"Got your message about the divorce...I thought it meant ..."
"Maybe you should move somewhere else, Texas maybe..."
"Live your f...ing miserable life, I was just thinking out loud!"
"You ain't found someone else..."
"Sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it."
"I did once." (Resignation, but what if Ennis had responded differently)
And, even when Ennis cried, "Get the f... off me!" Jack held on tight & again said, "It's alright, s'alright"
I agree that Ennis was almost there after the lake scene. I also think the November meeting would have been 'IT' - one way or another.
David:
When Ennis finishes his comment "but I don't know" about Cassie, he is trying to tell Jack that he is not serious about her.
So when Jack admits to having an ongoing affair, that hurts Ennis. He laughs, but then look at his face after. It changes and looks like he is trying to hide his hurt feelings. At least Jacks next statement was more from the heart. But I think Ennis was already dreading telling Jack the bad news, when instead he should have said something positive about his feelings towards Jack.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: silkncense on May 09, 2006, 10:28:00 am ---David - I agree that Jack lost a lot of hope after the 'divorce' scene and we don't ever see either of them smiling & relaxed again w/ each other, but Jack continued to try and move Ennis forward throughout the film:
"You going to do this again next summer?"
"What are we goina do now?" (Motel scene)
"It could be like this, just like this always"
"You & Alma, that's a life?"
"Got your message about the divorce...I thought it meant ..."
"Maybe you should move somewhere else, Texas maybe..."
"Live your f...ing miserable life, I was just thinking out loud!"
"You ain't found someone else..."
"Sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it."
"I did once." (Resignation, but what if Ennis had responded differently)
And, even when Ennis cried, "Get the f... off me!" Jack held on tight & again said, "It's alright, s'alright"
I agree that Ennis was almost there after the lake scene. I also think the November meeting would have been 'IT' - one way or another.
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This is all really interesting. I also agree that if they had met up in November, big decisions would have been made.
David:
--- Quote from: atz75 on May 09, 2006, 08:28:50 pm ---This is all really interesting. I also agree that if they had met up in November, big decisions would have been made.
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That is the $64,000 question. IF they met up in November.
I sure know that Ennis was anxious to see Jack and perhaps make some consessions. But I keep watching the DVD and that shot of Jack watching Ennis drive away. Plus the comment his dad made about Jack and Randall in the spring. I almost.....repeat almost wonder if the lakeside fight was the last straw in Jacks mind?
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on May 09, 2006, 08:35:04 pm ---That is the $64,000 question. IF they met up in November.
I sure know that Ennis was anxious to see Jack and perhaps make some consessions. But I keep watching the DVD and that shot of Jack watching Ennis drive away. Plus the comment his dad made about Jack and Randall in the spring. I almost.....repeat almost wonder if the lakeside fight was the last straw in Jacks mind?
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A poster on TOB called clancypants, who often has really interesting posts, wrote a long essay arguing that Jack DID break up with Ennis -- as a favor to Ennis! To let him off the hook and ease his torment, after he realized in the last argument that Enni was never going to change. Clancypants marshalled all kinds of evidence and made a strong case. But it was just WAY too depressing, and I didn't agree with all the reasoning, so I opted to reject it.
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