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Ennis, Cassie and the Twists (revised title)

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Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on May 12, 2006, 06:32:44 pm ---The concensus, last I heard, was that Ennis says nothing and Jack says it all and that there are no sorrys, just all rights. I lean toward that myself. But that's partly based on the observation that Ennis' lips don't move during the sorrys. The thing is, I can't see Jack's move, either, until the "s'all rights" start, at which point you can see his lips move and he nods.

But I really don't mean to dredge up the debate. We'll never know the answer for sure unless someone directly involved tells us.
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That's my understanding, too--Ennis says nothing, Jack says it all. Trouble is, now you've got my curiosity aroused as to whether someone directly involved has said something. Maybe I'll start a thread on it? Maybe "Jake on the 'S'alrights'?"

But not just now. ...  ::)

TJ:
IMO, according to the excerpt from the Time Mag Interview (which I posted whole in another section), McMurtry used his artistic license and created a "Cassie" for his version of the story.


--- Quote ---One of the main things you added to the story was women. In a lot of your work, women turn out to have far richer interior lives than men.

(Larry McMurtry) I have always argued that if you want to learn something about emotion, you have to ask women. That's why I've had three women characters who've won Oscars--[for] Patricia Neal, Cloris Leachman and Shirley MacLaine. I've always thought that for my interests, emotionally, I have to seek women to talk about. Men don't talk about emotion. They don't understand it.
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If McMurtry thinks men don't talk about or understand emotion, what is he then?

Front-Ranger:
Some more interesting thoughts on the gun symbology, using "The Devil's Right Hand" as a launching point.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388795/board/nest/41977484

serious crayons:
Thanks, Front! You keep good tabs on imdb. Please keep posting the interesting ones as you find them. I thought the previous gun one was great, as you know. And I think we should consider luring some of those good posters over here.

Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 12, 2006, 06:41:43 pm ---Maybe I'll start a thread on it? Maybe "Jake on the 'S'alrights'?"

But not just now. ...  ::)

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It sounds like a good idea for a thread to me... but I bet Jake/ Heath wouldn't remember.  I wonder if they know there's so much controversy about the "I'm sorry" idea.  I'm still firmly in the camp of people who believe that they hear it.  It never even crossed my mind to question it during my theatre viewings.  Heath seems to have mastered the art of ambiguous soft-speech while breathing/exhaling for this film.  The "I'm sorry" problem reminds me of the new controversy over whether he says "I love you" into the double shirts.  I, unfortunately, think this this second idea is just wishful thinking.  Heath looked completely distressed on Oprah when she asked him what Ennis's last line was.  I mean if you miss that, it's almost like missing the movie.

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