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Question.. Gay v Lesbian - is one more 'socially acceptable' than the other?
YaadPyar:
--- Quote from: littleguitar on May 10, 2006, 12:35:58 pm ---
I agree Celeste, but I think it's that really specific sexual context that makes us think lesbianism is accepted when really it isn't. With two beautiful women in a movie or porn flick, lesbianism is fine. But if it's two real looking women going at it and wanting nothing to do with men, that's when our society tends to find it offensive. How many times does a lesbian hear something like, "you just need a real man"... there is a really fine line, I think, when it comes to lesbianism about what will turn a man on and what will offend him. And, concerning women, I think gay men tend to me more accepted by women than lesbians. Obviously that isn't always the case, but it seems to be true a lot of the time.
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Oh yeah - that's totally my point. As long as it's confined to an idea of some fantasy, it's fine, but the reality is very different. We're just going to have to agree to agree here!
littleguitar:
--- Quote from: YaadPyar on May 10, 2006, 12:38:45 pm ---Oh yeah - that's totally my point. As long as it's confined to an idea of some fantasy, it's fine, but the reality is very different. We're just going to have to agree to agree here!
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LOL, yep! I was agreeing with you! sorry, I think I used the word "but" instead of "and", made it seem like I was arguing! ;D
YaadPyar:
yeah - even the little bit I ever saw of "The L Word" just seemed so lame to me. These were not women I wanted to spend time with, and it wasn't just about their sexuality.
starboardlight:
--- Quote from: YaadPyar on May 10, 2006, 01:46:56 pm ---yeah - even the little bit I ever saw of "The L Word" just seemed so lame to me. These were not women I wanted to spend time with, and it wasn't just about their sexuality.
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i thought the same thing about Queer As Folk.
starboardlight:
--- Quote from: isabelle on May 10, 2006, 01:18:42 pm ---Starboard, I would even say that gay men are accepted by straight women more than gay women are by the same, and even more than lesbians are accepted by gay men (my experience). Gay men seem to resent the often "militant" side of lesbians, even when it is not offensive.
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in terms of in real life, i think that might be true. the girl friends that I have, i do talk to them about everything. and I don't know very many lesbians that have that kind of relationships with men. but I don't know if that comes from men not accepting lesbians, or lesbians feeling no particular need to have that kind of relationship with men.
as for gay men resenting the "militant" side of lesbians, i think that's too general a statement. While at college, the community of gay and lesbians was very tight knit. In terms of activism, both communities realize that they need each other. And both community are happy to support one another in media representation. One of the most militant lesbian comic, Lea Delaria has a very strong gay male following.
yes, there are some gay men who are intimidated by the "militant" lesbians, but then again there are just as many lesbians who resent queeny gay men.
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