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Question.. Gay v Lesbian - is one more 'socially acceptable' than the other?
Lumière:
--- Quote from: rtprod on May 11, 2006, 02:00:00 pm ---My feeling on this issue is that lesbians are much more accepted in society than gay men as they are non-threatening to the heterosexual male and not that unlike heterosexual women in many of their relationship pursuits and nurturing habits.
rt
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Agreed!
Most heterosexual men are not threatened by lesbians because when they see 2 women together, they can easily tune into their "threesome" fantasies. I think in most cases, it is as simple as that. Mind you, I am not saying that this applies to all straight guys.
Also, I notice that generally-speaking, straight women are more 'accepting' of lesbians than straight guys are of gay men.
rtprod:
--- Quote from: starboardlight on May 11, 2006, 10:15:30 am ---I imagine that "Grace" sees her "Will" for all that he is. Though I don't know. I have met plenty of "fag hags" who refuse to see Will's sexuality. I don't object to the Grace/Will dynamic, but rather I'm frustrated that the media limits them to caricatures. I don't know if it's the fault of mainstream America not wanting to accept gay men as fully human or if Hollywood think that's the case. I'll tell ya, better baby steps than no steps at all. I'm glad "Will" is there at all.
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I don't understand why the public has turned so vehemently against Will & Grace. It seems in so many gay corners, the show has been cheaply discarded. I no longer tune in but when it began, it was fresh and funny, and groundbreaking in its way. There's no way to take away from Sean and Megan here, they are just too talented. I know that Sean's character is what it is and the stereotype is there, but it is also a very funny and original take on that stereotype, and he is a gifted comedian.
Could it be that we just became blase on the show and it is not the show that has gone down?
rt
delalluvia:
Straight men only find real lesbians titillating when they'are attractive. If the women are not, then they turn up their noses and get the 'yucks' pretty quick.
JennyC:
--- Quote from: Lucise on May 11, 2006, 02:40:48 pm ---Agreed!
Most heterosexual men are not threatened by lesbians because when they see 2 women together, they can easily tune into their "threesome" fantasies. I think in most cases, it is as simple as that. Mind you, I am not saying that this applies to all straight guys.
Also, I notice that generally-speaking, straight women are more 'accepting' of lesbians than straight guys are of gay men.
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I agree. Most female friends I know (unless they are serious religious) don't have a problem with either gay or lesbian relationship. We just see more gay couples around than lesbian couples (come to think of it, I really don't know any lesbian couple). In general, straight women feel less threatened on their heterosexuality by lesbian women than by other straight women. However, a lot of straight men tend to feel that their heterosexuality is threatened by homosexuality of gay men. Like it or not, the world we are in today is still dominated more by male than female. It’s my perception that lesbian is more 'socially acceptable' than gay.
There is an interesting article on CNN regarding how Lesbians' brains respond like straight men, and gay men’s brains respond like heterosexual women. Don’t know if the people here agree to it or not.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/05/08/lesbian.brains.ap/index.html
starboardlight:
--- Quote from: rtprod on May 11, 2006, 04:01:06 pm ---I don't understand why the public has turned so vehemently against Will & Grace. It seems in so many gay corners, the show has been cheaply discarded. I no longer tune in but when it began, it was fresh and funny, and groundbreaking in its way. There's no way to take away from Sean and Megan here, they are just too talented. I know that Sean's character is what it is and the stereotype is there, but it is also a very funny and original take on that stereotype, and he is a gifted comedian.
Could it be that we just became blase on the show and it is not the show that has gone down?
rt
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I agree the show started out strong. I think the thing is that the show at its beginning was so promising as far as what's to come. but it never delivered on that. And Sean's character may have been a fresh take on the stereotype, but it never went any where. For how ever many years it's been, he's been the same Jack. That's why you don't tune in any more, and that's why the rest of us are jaded about the show. It never evolved from what it was in its first season.
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