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Do You Support The Death Penalty?
Pipedream:
I strictly oppose death penalty because I consider it a barbaric relic from the middle ages. In our times, I think, there should be other means to deal with delinquents. Besides, too many innocent people have been killed in the past in the name of justice, be it out of human error or political calculation.
Sure, there are criminals who we might think would deserve a cruel fate for what they've done. But can we always be 100 % certain? I think not. Humans are prone to make mistakes and are sometimes susceptible to corruption. That and my sense of humanity tell me that modern countries should steer clear of capital punishment.
Just my opinion. I haven't read the whole thread, though, so sorry if all this has been said already.
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belbbmfan:
I agree Anke.
The trial of Hans Van Themsche started today in Antwerp. He's a 19 year old who shot and killed a Malines woman and a Belgian 2 year old toddler she was babysitting. He shot her at point blank as she was talking a walk with baby Luna. He shot her because she was black. He then shot Luna because she didn't stop crying. He'd shot a Turkish woman before who was sitting on a bench reading a book. She survived. Luckily his killing spree was stopped by a police officer who shot him.
Hans Van Themsche wanted to kill himself and hoped the police would shoot him. He wanted to take as much 'foreigners' with him as possible. He blames it on a bad youth. In his farewell letter to his family he wrote that 'he died in action' should be put on his grave.
I'm shaking writing this down. It's just unbelievalbe that people would commit such crimes.
As much as I cannot even begin to comprehend why he did what he did, I still think that killing him wouldn't solve anything. And that justice wouldn't be served.
http://www.flandersnews.be/cm/flandersnews.be/News/071001_van_Themsche
Brokeback_Dev:
so I say what about the countries that still hang people for the crimes they commit as they did Saddam Hussain? It was a horrifying thing to see, but thats how they did to him. What about when they chop off the heads of criminals for the crimes they commit, or the countless other cruel and unusual punishments? There's all kinds of inhumane penalties in other countries. What are we to say? We are much more civilized? Is it civilized to take someones life, Kill your parents, rap a baby, torture someone, blow up a building?
I once new a man who killed a woman's husband with a kitchen butcher knife and rapped her 12 yr old daughter. He didnt get the death penalty because the wife wanted him to rot in prison for the rest of his life as his punishment. I must admit for sure prison is an awful place to live out your days, but there is a society to live in in prison. You just conform to that sick norm, but you live. IDK In this state 25 years is considered a life sentence. There have been cases of sexual offenders, murders and what not who get out and commit the same crime. Prison does not provide rehabilitation to these criminals..
As for abortion, i believe it is murder, which is exactly the case in partial birth abortions, but i dont disagree with a woman's right to choose, except partial birth abortions. If you want to know what that is google it. And my beliefs have nothing to do with religion and state. I dont agree with religion and the government is fucked up.
moremojo:
I'm with you, David. I too am an American citizen, resident in the State of Texas, which has been my home state from birth. Texas leads the country in the number of inmates it puts to death, a mark of great shame, in my opinion, upon my home state. Execution is cruel and unusual punishment, no question about it, and as such, is clearly unconstitutional.
Furthermore, state-sanctioned killing poisons and morally compromises the society that practices it. Read Friedrich Dürrenmatt's play Der Besuch der alten Dame for a great literary illustration of this reality. No truly enlightened society can pursue or endorse execution as a legitimate means of punishment.
ifyoucantfixit:
Well here I am on the opposite side of the fence again. Oh well here I go.
I think sometimes we need to thin the herd as I have heard it said. We have these horrible
mean and grewsome people. The kind like Charles Manson, John Wayne Gayce, and others of their kind that are in the society. If we just put them in prison for life. They are still a dredge on the society. They are often given conjugal rights, begat children who are then placed on the rolls of the state, and may then carry on the legacy of an unfortunate life.
We had such a case here in oregon. A man that was the son of a man on death row, killed and tortured several young teenaged girls...He deserves to die..in my opinion..He was so cold blooded that he murdered one young girl, and put her in a small refrigerator in his kitchen, and continued to make meals, and have friends over just the same as nothing was amiss. He then took her out and put her in a cardboard box in the back corner of his lot, and left her there with the rest of his garbage to be burned.
I dont feel that ridding society of those types of people...Is cruel or barbaric. I think it is plain good sense. You dont rehabilitate that kind of behavior from a person..In spite of all the forward movements in helping folks with mental issues.
I dont think it should be used very often, and not routinely for sure.....I think there are very few people that fit into these kinds of territory. But if we do find them...Like the Greenriver Killer..He murdered over 40 young women.
We should give them no quarter..They deserve the same choices they gave their victims...
Ok im done...except to say...I used to be on the other side. When I was younger I didnt think it was good to have a death penalty...However time has shown me, in some unique cases its required.
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