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--- Quote from: Penthesilea on October 25, 2007, 10:56:49 am ---But I see misogyny in the snide tone in which it is spoken of her because she's been in another relationship before ("leftovers", which wasn't by you) and in your wording of "he doesn't need to take a woman with children" and "I don't think he needs to take on someone else's kids".
What are women with children? Lesser people? Only second choice?
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Thank you Chrissi. :)
belbbmfan:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on October 25, 2007, 11:44:00 am --- I thought I'd put my foot in too and weigh in on Jake's attire. I am not impressed with our man Jake for his "romantic Rome outing attire" if that's what they're doing. That grey bulgy unflattering T-shirt thingie, and chewing so throughly and distractedly on a toothpick... The fangirl in me kind of imagined that's not the casual wear the classy Jake G. would dress in for those early days of romance and first dates.
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:D :D
Mikaela, your post made me smile. Let's just hope he's not taking advise from Heath on 'all things sartorial'!! :laugh:
Jeff Wrangler:
Frankly, I think these comments about alleged misogyny in my expressing my opinion, coming from women who have come to know me--sometimes actually in person--say far more about the women who are making these comments than they do about me. I'm still waiting for someone to explain to whom I have been insensitive, and why.
If you are going to respond to me, keep Karl's comment about "leftovers" out of it, and quote me accurately.
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on October 25, 2007, 10:56:49 am ---And to be honest, I'm a bit taken aback by your last comment. Do you really have this in the back of your mind when dealing with other people's children? This must be awful. :-\
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Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Children terrify me. I don't dislike them. I'm not against them. Maybe some readers will remember that I even said I felt Ennis was right to put his children before Jack and his relationship to Jack. But I do not like to be around anybody's children, and certainly not alone with them.
While the scandal in the Roman Catholic Church teaches us that pedophilia is, indeed, something that parents and society must be continually vigilant against, it is also true that innocent lives have been ruined by groundless charges of various kinds of abuse that were ultimately proved false. Just a few years ago, a schoolteacher--a woman, I might add--from New Jersey, not too far from Philadelphia, was convicted and went to jail on charges of sexual abuse. Ultimately the charge was proved false, and her conviction was overturned, and she was freed, but her life is ruined, her good name gone, because always there will be this cloud over her.
All it takes is a word or gesture misunderstood, and you're done for. It's a little bit like being accused of witchcraft in Salem in 1692. Even when you're innocent it's almost impossible to prove it.
I'm sorry to have run on so long on something so OT, but I find I'm actually shaking as I type this--that's how strongly this affects me.
MaineWriter:
I was the one who used the word insensitive, first, so I guess I need to chime in here....
I never said you were insensitive to anybody in particular, Jeff. I found your wording "He doesn't need to take on a woman with kids" to be insensitive--I guess to women with kids, in general. As I said in my original post, you make it sound like some sort of curse. Or as others have said, like she's damaged goods, used baggage or somehow a lesser person. That's what I meant.
Leslie
LauraGigs:
--- Quote ---I'm sorry to have run on so long on something so OT, but I find I'm actually shaking as I type this--that's how strongly this affects me.
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^ That's very sad, Jeff, and I'm sorry to read that.
Our society is right to deplore sexual abuse and throw the book at those who commit it. But it's a shame that innocent adults are made so uncomfortable by the situation that they have a whole other issue to be worried about. And children miss out on extra adult friendship because of it.
And Mikaela, honey! I thought Jake looked studly and fabulous! 8)
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