Thanks brokeplex!
I agree with you on that pissing by OMT on Jack scene as teaching guide... in a way then!
However, Ennis hugging Jack... that so early in their relationship, I question that!!
And utmostly question Ennis ever kissing back Jack!! I never seen an Ennis kiss me... in the past nor another gay man!!
Jack just got lucky, not only by being pissed upon by his dad, but surely by hugging Ennis, and unbelievably got a kiss back from Ennis?? !! Wow, sure would like a gay man tell me his real story to find if that ever happenned in his own life?? !!
Hugs!!
Artiste, look at the movie again. Look first at the scene where the boys sit together on the ground atop the grazing slopes of the mountain and declare to each other that "I'm not Queer". "Well, I'm not either." "Its nobodys business but ours". "Its a one shot thing we got going here". This is what I call the "Denial Scene",very, very important scene to watch in order to understand the boys and how their lives would unfold over the next 20 years.
In the next scene, the "Romantic Scene" takes place by the dazzling firelight, with Ennis shly enters into the tent. Jack takes him, hugs him, kisses him, and then gets on top of him and continues to kiss him. In his mind Ennis is far away, in denial that it is Jack who is arousing him, but Ennis is physically there.
So, you want a gay man to tell you that he has been hugged and kissed under such circumstances by a "straight man" in deep denial? OK, I'm as GAY, and similar scenarios have worked their way into my life several times. Are you satisfied now?
Artiste, I love the way you make me think about and justify my observations about the movie. You are a great teacher, using your relentless "Socratic" method. Have you ever been a teacher or a trainer? You would make a great one!