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delalluvia:

--- Quote from: brokeplex on February 20, 2008, 01:52:42 pm ---could I be a pagan at heart? well, if the pagans will sing the old gospel hymns from the Broadman Hymnal, I'll join up! I think the hymns are about the only thing that draws me back to church every 6 months or so, and DL's prompting.

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Yep.  ;D

Nothing wrong with enjoying good music and a great deal of wonderful music is religious.  I personally enjoy Masses and Xmas music.  I don't have to be a Christian to enjoy it.  Hymns I really like I find new words for.  Some pagan sites have entire Xmas songs reworded back to celebrate a pagan holiday.

brokeplex:

--- Quote from: delalluvia on February 20, 2008, 08:29:45 pm ---Yep.  ;D

Nothing wrong with enjoying good music and a great deal of wonderful music is religious.  I personally enjoy Masses and Xmas music.  I don't have to be a Christian to enjoy it.  Hymns I really like I find new words for.  Some pagan sites have entire Xmas songs reworded back to celebrate a pagan holiday.

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I've always been interested in the fact that early Christianity expropriated pagan holidays, renamed them and made then central to the faith. Easter, and Christmas both have their roots in pagan holidays, which of course have their roots in the changing of the seasons : the solstices and equinoxes.

I have wanted to be at Stonehenge when the sun is lined up with the key stone, supposedly the light shines around the stones at an interesting angle. The people who built Stonehenge were I believe Druids and didn't they worship the changes of the seasons?

delalluvia:

--- Quote from: brokeplex on February 20, 2008, 11:19:00 pm ---I've always been interested in the fact that early Christianity expropriated pagan holidays, renamed them and made then central to the faith. Easter, and Christmas both have their roots in pagan holidays, which of course have their roots in the changing of the seasons : the solstices and equinoxes.
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Well, you can pretty much tick them all off.  Almost all of them were pagan holidays.  I also like to count off the so-called saints who were really gods/goddesses or other demigods that the Christians renamed and the famous churches that were built over pagan holy sites.  When I go to Rome next year, I plan on doing a tour of what some place used to be rather than what it is now.  Do you know that some people still leave bouquets of flowers where Julius Caesar was murdered?.  And I was really thrilled to read that when the last solar eclipse occurred over eastern Europe last year, people were rushing to greet it carrying tripods - an ancient gift to Apollo the sun god.  Some habits die hard.  ;D


--- Quote --- I have wanted to be at Stonehenge when the sun is lined up with the key stone, supposedly the light shines around the stones at an interesting angle. The people who built Stonehenge were I believe Druids and didn't they worship the changes of the seasons?
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I wanted to be at Stonehenge during the fall equinox, but I missed it by a few days.  The Brits celebrate the summer equinox there with a Druid ceremony and a lot of partying.  However, everything I read is that the winter equinox is what was most important at Stonehenge.  Obviously if you're living off what you caught and grew the summer before, you're pretty anxious for the winter to end so you can get back to eating well.

No, standing stone circles in the British isles were built by pre-historic peoples - about 4-5000 years ago.  The Druids came later.  They have recently claimed it for their ancient ancestors, but no, it wasn't a Druid construct.  The Druids were a variant of animists, but not a lot is known about them since the Romans were so good at wiping out those troublemakers  ;)

brokeplex:
you sound like you are a classics scholar, I have a close friend I met in college was a classics scholar and then got tempted by Microsoft money and never went back.

delalluvia:

--- Quote from: brokeplex on February 21, 2008, 12:31:30 am ---you sound like you are a classics scholar, I have a close friend I met in college was a classics scholar and then got tempted by Microsoft money and never went back.

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Alas, I wanted to be, but I couldn't conquer my disinterest in teaching that goes hand in hand with any scholarly career.  So instead I focused on my science background, ran out of money and now I'm doing something not related to anything I'm interested in or studied for.  :P  I've always been interested in Greek/Roman ancient history, and I read a lot while I was researching my religion and got extremely interested in comparative religions.  And to this day, I'm still reading up on it.  I just this week picked up 3 books;  on Caananites, Minoan civilization and a revisionist look at Itha-Baal, queen of Israel, aka Jezebel.

A friend of a friend also majored in the classics.  Last I heard of him he was a high muckety muck at the I.R.S.

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