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What would have been Jack's reaction had Ennis died?

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welliwont:

--- Quote from: pinku on May 22, 2006, 01:32:01 am ---To Ruby,

I beg to differ! The ambiguity is in the movie not in the novel. I would welcome if you would direct me to sites that have the writer saying that Jack's death is open to interpretation.

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Here is what AP wrote as the last line in the story:  "There was some open space between what he knew and what he tried to believe, but nothing could be done about it, and if you can't fix it you've got to stand it.”

I interpret the line to say we are not meant to know, it will remain a mystery to us as it will to Ennis.

pinku:
I think the last line is about Jack appearing in Ennis' dreams and the fact that  Ennis has to go on without Jack. In my opinion Ennis has had already resolved Jack's murder during his meeting with Jack's pa and ma. This line signifies that Ennis has accepted the fact that Jack is not going to come back and there is nothing he can do about it but accept it...

Oh ..... What a disturbing novel/movie! The theme is simple enough but the impact massive, almost overpowering. An emotional hurricane! What a writer! I am almost afraid to read her other stories-  I am yet to recover from this!

I also think that though Heath was perfect for the role of Ennis, somehow I can't say the same thing about Jake. Even AP describes Jack as a short, curly haired guy with buckteeth and heavy thighs. The kissing scene would have been more hot had Jack/Jake drawn blood as described in the book..mmmmmmmmmmm..stubble rasping...something about saliva welling...my god ...hope I don't wet my sheets  today....;D

starboardlight:

--- Quote from: silkncense on May 21, 2006, 03:10:09 pm ---It is not actually clear from the story nor the film.  I disagree that Jack had decided to set up home with the rancher.  And although Ennis felt at that moment @ Lightning Flat that Jack had been killed by the tire iron - he later was not so sure. 

Annie Proulx (+ the scriptwriters & Ang)'s brilliance is that the reader/viewer is able to interpret the dialouge/ intentions/ scenes for themselves.

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yep. what Jack's father tells Ennis seems to suggest that Jack had decided, but remember that Jack had also said to his parents that  he and Ennis would move up to Lightning Flat, even though they hadn't decided on anything. So the same could be true with Randall. That it was merely Jack talking out his thoughts rather announcing anything concrete.

bbm_stitchbuffyfan:
See, I think Jake Gyllenhaal was [freakin'] perfect in the part of Jack. Granted, I know that Proulx wrote that Jack had buck-teeth and curly hair -- and I would've loved to see them give him buck-teeth and even better, the bleeding lips in the reunion kiss (that would've been awesome; how could Ennis explain that to Alma?).

"There is no Ennis without Jack."

I was thinking about this quote of Annie Proulx's the other day. When I first heard it, I thought it was really sweet and adorable but thinking about it now, it's very grim and disturbing. Why, because Jack dies and therefore, Ennis dies too. Ennis, however, cannot go and join Jack; he has to live an abject life and live with the guilt, agony, and despair forever.

Had it been Ennis (I thought Ennis was going to die from falling off the horse and breaking his neck actually -- the commercials showed the scene where his horse gets spooked by the bear up on Brokeback) I think Jack would've been utterly devastated. I think he would've gone to the funeral had anyone gotten in touch with him (would Alma? I doubt she knew how to contact him) and I think he would be, quietly, broken forever but I think he wouldn't let anyone see it. His Mom would probably know though.

I think it'd be a few years before he even contemplated a relationship with another man and then, it wouldn't amount to anything.

pinku:
Still you remember the movie because of Heath rather than Jake. If you were to watch the movie without having read the book, then I guess it is ok. Or maybe Heath is a better actor or had the meaty scenes , at least towards the end which left a greater impact in the minds of the viewers!

To Bbm...

I would rather have you not to use the f* word, at least while replying to my posts. This is not your home and please have the decency  not to use such words! Express your frustrations to the gay bashers not to me!

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