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What would have been Jack's reaction had Ennis died?
Jane:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on May 21, 2006, 12:26:07 pm ---Interesting question, pinku!
I think Jack would have been just as distraught -- his love for Ennis was equal to Ennis' for him. But I think Jack is better able to cope with his emotions and is more of a survivor. While I can't imagine Ennis ever being with anyone else again, I can imagine this for Jack. He would always miss Ennis. But we would not see him in the final shot living in an isolated trailer with nothing for company but a shrine.
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Exactly right. Anyone else would always be second best to Ennis. Lets face it, he only saw other guys ie male prostitues to fullfull a biological need. Ennis shut his emotions and needs down when he wasnt with Jack,(which is why he couldnt control himself at the reunion scene) :) but Jack bless him couldnt help but show how he felt. Yes he might have met someone else, but no one would EVER compare to Ennis. Poor Jack, poor Ennis. :'( :'( :'(
tiawahcowboy:
As far as Annie Proulx's orignal short story is concerned, the one her publisher had copyrighted in 1997 before the New Yorker Magazine printed a slightly edited version of it, leaving out the two opening paragraphs, Ennis is the lead character in the story.
Other than Ennis Del Mar saying a few words aloud when he is by himself, no other person talks in the short story unless the person is talking to Ennis.
Oh, the other person can quote what someone else said; but, then, the person is still talking to Ennis when relating the story.
welliwont:
--- Quote from: silkncense on May 21, 2006, 12:35:53 pm --- And as was stated by Annie "There is no Ennis without Jack."
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Hello Silkncense:
"There is no Ennis without Jack."
hunh? what does that mean??? If you know, will you let me in on it?
welliwont:
--- Quote from: RouxB on May 21, 2006, 11:33:16 pm ---
When John Twist tells Ennis of Jack's plan to bring up the rancher, he also states that, like most of Jack's plans, this one never came to pass-and not because Jack died.
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Hi Ruby or RouxB:
Is it bad form to ask questions of something that you posted ten days ago? 'Cause I have one for you.... What do you mean by "and not because Jack died". I thought that the reason "this one never came to pass" was in fact because Jack died.
If Jack had not died, it may have come to pass. or not. we will never know. Do you have some reason to think that it would never have happened, if you do, please share!
Here is my rough timeline, it is only my guesstimate, so you can comment on this too _ if you want!
* Last camping trip for Ennis & Jack: Spring 1983
* Jack's last visit to Lightening Flat: the two days after the last camping trip -- this is when he mentioned to his Pa about bringing up a Rancher neighbour
* Jack dies: MAY or JUNE or JULY or possibly the beginning of AUGUST -- (<<Ennis didn't know about the accident for months until his postcard to Jack saying that November still looked like the first chance came back stamped DECEASED)>>
* Ennis mails the last postcard to Jack: beginning to mid-October 1983
* Postcard is returned to Ennis stamped "DECEASED": late October 1983
So since Jack died within a few months of having told his Pa about the Rancher neighbour, I think there had just not been enough time for Jack to make it happen.
What is your take on this?
tiawahcowboy:
In other boards, not this one nor that one beginning with an "I," a person stated that one of the screenplay versions has Ennis getting the "DECEASED" stamped postcard (about the November meeting) returned several months after he sent it in October.
And, while Ennis calls Jack's Childress, Texas phone number and talks to Lureen as soon as he can after getting the returned card, he does not go up to Lightning Flat until it is summer time in 1984.
According to the "book," Ennis was working at the Stoutamire Ranch in Signal in 1983 and he was still working there when he went up to Jack's boyhood home place. Ennis seems to have waited until he could get time off from work before he made the trip. And, he returned to work at Stoutamire's after the trip up to Lightning Flat. The "Brokeback Mountain" postcard was "ordered" in the Signal Higgins Gift Shop one day when Ennis was washing the horse blankets from the ranch. Ennis had to go back to the store to pick up the card when it arrived.
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