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isabelle:
OK, I'll jump into the "old ladies" discussion, as I feel qualified!  I have 2 kids, 2 c-sections. Both under epidural. The first was hard to recuperate from, not the second, and in both cases I was so scared to actually give birth that I am glad my hips (and all the bones down there) are too small to give birth normally (my babies were VERY big too!). And I agree: breastfeeding was great fun!

henrypie:
Dela-- I remember reading the interview with Kate W. about her shame at having had a c-section, after years of absorbing the idea that it was some proof of womanhood to have a vaginal birth.

Bah!

Herpes:  everytime I see people kayaking on TV, I know it's a Valtrex commercial.  I've read that about 25% of the adult population carries genital herpes.  Madonna, Kate whatserface, Jennifer whatserface -- they ain't special.  I've also read that taking an antiviral during pregnancy, particularly toward birthtime, minimizes the risks associated with a vaginal birth.

JCinNYC2006:
What a fascinating topic.  So interesting to hear about the differences and the similarities.  Wow.  All I can really add is that besides HSV (herpes simplex virus) being extremely common, so it HPV (human papilloma virus), and that can have long term consequences (cervical and possibly rectal cancer).  Everyone should be more educated on that but alas...

Juan

Ellemeno:
I think this thread is a perfect example of never judging the actual topic by the subject line.  It means I really need to look at EVERY thread (but can't, pesky other parts of life gettin in the way), you never know where the pearls are here.

Penthesilea:
Wow, girls, first nobody posts in the Ladies Corner, and as soon as it's closed you discuss giving birth intensively.  ;D

So I'll jump right in to the "Old Ladies" discussion, too. Like isabelle, I feel qualified. I have three children, all born the old-fashioned way. Thank god I didn't need a c-section.
Two of them were delivered without epidural. I screamed for an epidural at every childbirth, but two times I started screaming too late.
At the third childbirth I was already in the last act of labours (don't know the English expression; in German it's "pressing labours", that means that the child is actually coming) when the anesthesiologist showed up.

Midwife to Penthesilea: "Do you already have pressing labours?"

Me:"No!" (I knew I had them, I lied to her, I wanted the epidural so badly)

Midwife to anesthesiologist: "Wait a minute. I check this first"

A minute later

Midwife to anesthesiologist: " You can go; your coming was in vain. She'll have the baby within the next 10 minutes."

And right she was.


--- Quote ---Ed says, "Epidural - ask for it early, ask for it often
--- End quote ---

Ed is right! At my second childbirth, I started screaming (yes: screaming, not asking) for epidural the moment I reached the hospital. I swear, I literally screamed to the doorman (!) for an epidural before I told my name. This was the only childbirth I had an epidural.

Juan:
How brave by you. Men usually don't make their way through childbirth-stories.

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