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My sexual orientation and my positions on gay rights
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: letxa2000 on September 22, 2008, 09:35:09 pm ---I have no problem with you having a wedding to celebrate your civil union.
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Is this really a matter of semantics or word-choice? What do you really feel is the difference between a "wedding" and a "civil union"?
letxa2000:
--- Quote from: atz75 on September 22, 2008, 09:31:46 pm ---Why would my hypothetical marriage to my girlfriend be offensive to anyone else's marriage? I truly don't understand. Why would it even have anything to do with anyone else's marriage?
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It doesn't effect anyone else's marriage. But just as you want the word "marriage" to mean something to you--and apparently you think it's important enough to argue about--please understand that there are many others that want the word "marriage" to mean something a bit more conservative and traditional. It's just how we use the word and it can be argued that it literally shouldn't matter to anyone. But just as it is is clear that it does matter to you, please understand that it matters just as much to others that disagree with you.
Clyde-B:
--- Quote from: letxa2000 on September 22, 2008, 09:19:23 pm ---I'm in favor of a federal constitutional amendment that provides for civil unions that have the exact same legal status as marriage. If what you want is equal rights then that'll do the job and I support it. If what you want is to intentionally offend people that have a more traditional view of marriage then, well, I don't support that endeavor and you shouldn't be surprised that others don't, either.
The reason I don't support these efforts at the state level is because if you get into a situation where different states have different rules regarding the matter than you have a headache such as one I read about somewhere where some state (RI? VT? Don't remember) couldn't grant a divorce to a gay couple because the state where they wanted the divorce didn't recognize the marriage in the first place. To avoid that kind of incompatibility, any legal changes should be at the federal level.
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What would they find offensive?
CellarDweller:
--- Quote from: letxa2000 on September 22, 2008, 09:35:09 pm ---I have no problem with you having a wedding to celebrate your civil union.
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However, I do.
My relationship is just as loving, as special, and as important as any straight coupling, and it deserves to have THE SAME recognition as theirs does.
When I have a wedding, it will be to celebrate my marriage.
letxa2000:
--- Quote from: CellarDweller on September 22, 2008, 09:47:32 pm ---However, I do.
My relationship is just as loving, as special, and as important as any straight coupling, and it deserves to have THE SAME recognition as theirs does.
When I have a wedding, it will be to celebrate my marriage.
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Well, like I said, please understand that just as you attach importance to the word "marriage," so do others that disagree with you. So while we may not agree, you should at least understand that it's not hard to understand that people can have just as much interest in blocking the attempts to redefine marriage as you have interest in redefining it.
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