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"Ennis...girls don't fall in love with fun!"
whiteoutofthemoon:
Alrighty then, here's one for the beautiful ladies here (or any smart men):
If girls don't fall in love with fun, then what do they fall for then? That is, what exactly did Cassie see in Ennis? We're well aware of what Jack saw in Ennis, and I can even see what Alma saw in him (at that time, he was probably her first love, it was probably expected that all girls got married and had children, etc.), but later on in life, Ennis wasn't exactly a "catch" for a hottie like Cassie....he was poor, not a great conversationalist overall, inattentive, had baggage (two kids). We know he's a decent guy and a loyal friend, but from purely Cassie's perspective, what is it that she fell for? that's one part that I didn't totally understand, and certainly Cassie was added by the screenwriters, as she was not part of Annie Proulx's story. I knew she liked him, but I couldn't see why she fell in love with him. And this is one hot, young chick who could've gotten any cowboy.
On the other hand, I can understand why the writers added her character, as if to show that Ennis was somewhat "damaged" to love anyone else..... that scene in the diner tells it all.... he was all alone, eating this small piece of pie....a shell of a man, confused, emotionally drained, couldn't love, or be loved.
So ladies, would you have fallen for Ennis? and why, or why not?
(me....just a single straight guy, alone on a Friday nite, b/c of a fight today with my girlfriend....and I still don't understand women! And hence this thread... <sigh>). ??? :-\
bbm_stitchbuffyfan:
Well, I hope you and your girlfriend work things out.
See, I could answer your question but I have no idea so... yeah...
Cassie's presence was a bit of a mystery to me at first. But I agree that she shows how emotionally destroyed Ennis is in that he can love Jack and Jack only.
opinionista:
--- Quote from: whiteoutofthemoon on June 10, 2006, 12:02:20 am ---Alrighty then, here's one for the beautiful ladies here (or any smart men):
If girls don't fall in love with fun, then what do they fall for then? That is, what exactly did Cassie see in Ennis? We're well aware of what Jack saw in Ennis, and I can even see what Alma saw in him (at that time, he was probably her first love, it was probably expected that all girls got married and had children, etc.), but later on in life, Ennis wasn't exactly a "catch" for a hottie like Cassie....he was poor, not a great conversationalist overall, inattentive, had baggage (two kids). We know he's a decent guy and a loyal friend, but from purely Cassie's perspective, what is it that she fell for? that's one part that I didn't totally understand, and certainly Cassie was added by the screenwriters, as she was not part of Annie Proulx's story. I knew she liked him, but I couldn't see why she fell in love with him. And this is one hot, young chick who could've gotten any cowboy.
On the other hand, I can understand why the writers added her character, as if to show that Ennis was somewhat "damaged" to love anyone else..... that scene in the diner tells it all.... he was all alone, eating this small piece of pie....a shell of a man, confused, emotionally drained, couldn't love, or be loved.
So ladies, would you have fallen for Ennis? and why, or why not?
(me....just a single straight guy, alone on a Friday nite, b/c of a fight today with my girlfriend....and I still don't understand women! And hence this thread... <sigh>). ??? :-\
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Well, Cassie is actually in the short story, just that Proulx didn't give her a name. But Ennis does mention her, when he tells Jack that he's been putting the blocks to some waiter who worked at a bar in Signal. I think the reason for her existence is to show that Ennis's fears towards his own sexuality just grew bigger with time. He wasn't coming in terms with is sexuality at all, as opposed to Jack who at least acknowledged that he was in love with a man.
Anyway, Diana Ossana said in an interview that the very first draft of the screenplay was exactly like the short story, but it wasn't long enough to make it a movie. So, she and Larry McMurtry had to expand it, adding situations and characters that were either mentioned briefly, like Cassie, or that weren't there at all, like Jimbo.
PS.The interview is in the DVD extras.
serious crayons:
From some perspectives ::) Ennis is every bit as hot as Cassie. Socioeconomically, he's not a step down for a cocktail waitress. It's true he's not talkative, but a lot of women don't question that. He's a little older than she is, but not way out of range. Baggage, yeah, but a lot of women are OK with that, too. Someone pointed out on another thread that Cassie might have been drawn to Ennis because he was polite and wouldn't have harassed her like a lot of guys in the bar might. He's quite pleasant, in fact. So I would guess that as Cassie looked around the bar, she wasn't seeing many cowboys who, on the surface anyway, looked more appealing. Look who she turned to on the rebound: Karl, about whom she rolls her eyes and the best she can say is that he's nice and talks!
Eventually, she might have become frustrated by Ennis' lack of passion, in both a physical and emotional sense. But I think at that point their relationship was new enough that frustration hadn't set in, and she probably hoped the potential still existed.
Jeff Wrangler:
Surely the "Carl, he even talks" line was more a slap at Ennis and his taciturnity than a comment about Carl? At least, that's how I've always seen the line. Poor Cassie must have needed a grappling hook to pull conversation out of Ennis.
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