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Randall really is...
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 21, 2006, 01:41:44 pm ---Well, I would argue that in terms of appearance every man on the planet is a big step down from Ennis (present company excepted, of course :)).
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Pffffft! ::)
--- Quote ---But you're right, we all have our own tastes. Timmy isn't just a step down, he's the whole staircase down -- he's intended to be so ludicrously unattractive he's not even fun to work with, let alone share a tent with. So in that context, yes, Randall is at least a viable candidate. For that matter, so are Jimbo and Monroe.
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Tell you what, I think they could have found somebody better looking, or with a hunkier body, for Jimbo (ref. the various "Hot Guys" threads over at "Anything Goes" ;D). I've always figured Monroe's attractiveness to Alma was his attentiveness, at least mainly.
Kd5000:
Actually, I thought Jimbo and Randall were a much more accurate portrayal of what males on the western plains look like. When I first saw them, I thought, ah those must be real locals from Alberta. Their look is the exact opposite of the so-called metrosexual look. I mean the harsh climate and outdoorsey lifestyle make you look windburnt and haggard. We are talking rural and blue-collar, not exactly the Hollywood look. Of course, the women compensate with heavy utilization of makeup and preocuupation with hair maintenance and spending lots of movie on clothing in Dallas or Denver.
I thought that Jake had been miscast as he too much of a pretty boy to be a cowboy, Heath to a lesser extent. Of course, in love stories, you like the lovers to be attractive, unless it's a veteran actor or actress whose doing a swan song performance or something.
moremojo:
My own two cents' worth:
I think David Harbour is an attractive man, and, in my opinion, looks even better sans facial hair. Randall is a masculine guy, with a seemingly pleasant temperant, who expresses interest in Jack--all undoubted pluses in Jack's book. Randall seems like the kind of person that could grow on you over time. We BBM fans tend not to be partial to him in large part, I would reckon, because he's not Ennis, the real and abiding love of Jack's heart. But Randall is a human being with feelings, too (listen to me, rhapsodizing like this over FICTIONAL characters!), and making his way through existence hoping to snatch little moments of happiness like any of us. In his longing and vulnerability, he becomes, as we all do when reflecting the quintessence of our being, beautiful.
Scott
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: moremojo on June 21, 2006, 05:34:42 pm ---But Randall is a human being with feelings, too (listen to me, rhapsodizing like this over FICTIONAL characters!), and making his way through existence hoping to snatch little moments of happiness like any of us.
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Well, sure. Randall seems like a nice guy. So does Monroe. (Not Jimbo, though.)
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on June 21, 2006, 02:17:14 pm ---Tell you what, I think they could have found somebody better looking, or with a hunkier body, for Jimbo (ref. the various "Hot Guys" threads over at "Anything Goes" ;D). I've always figured Monroe's attractiveness to Alma was his attentiveness, at least mainly.
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I was too busy disliking Jimbo to notice whether his body was hunky or not. But I think he's supposed to look somewhat like Ennis from across a bar (white hat, light-colored shirt) and not at alll like Ennis up close. I don't think he's supposed to be hot. His appearance helps suggest that Jack would be "settling" -- and in fact, didn't even get the opportunity to settle (illustrating the frustrations of being gay and single in his millieu and helping explain why he went for Lureen)!
As for Randall, I agree that he's supposed to be at least a viable possibility for Jack, but not so hot that he represents serious competition for Ennis, outside of his apparent availability. Of course appearance would be just part of his potential appeal, but it's the attribute that's easiest to convey in the little time we have to spend with Randall, so the filmmakers have to rely heavily on it.
And yeah, I think Monroe's attractiveness to Alma was probably some combination of attentiveness, financial stability, reliability and heterosexuality.
--- Quote from: Kd5000 on June 21, 2006, 03:19:48 pm ---I thought that Jake had been miscast as he too much of a pretty boy to be a cowboy, Heath to a lesser extent.
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But surely SOME men in the West happen to be born good-looking. Setting aside whatever cosmetic enhancements Jake and Heath may have at their disposal, couldn't they as easily have come from Wyoming?
Anyway, Annie Proulx obviously had in mind a far more realistically gritty appearance for her two cowboys. Oddly enough, in all the debates I've seen on this board about the pros and cons of changes made by the filmmakers, I don't see too many complaints about that one ... ;)
j.U.d.E.:
--- Quote from: moremojo on June 21, 2006, 05:34:42 pm ---My own two cents' worth:
I think David Harbour is an attractive man, and, in my opinion, looks even better sans facial hair. Randall is a masculine guy, with a seemingly pleasant temperant, who expresses interest in Jack--all undoubted pluses in Jack's book. Randall seems like the kind of person that could grow on you over time. We BBM fans tend not to be partial to him in large part, I would reckon, because he's not Ennis, the real and abiding love of Jack's heart. But Randall is a human being with feelings, too (listen to me, rhapsodizing like this over FICTIONAL characters!), and making his way through existence hoping to snatch little moments of happiness like any of us. In his longing and vulnerability, he becomes, as we all do when reflecting the quintessence of our being, beautiful.
Scott
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Beautiful two cents' worth!!
~ j U d E
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