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"It ain't right."
Brown Eyes:
Yeah, either 3 or 4 years seems awfully long for the Randall/ Cassie relationships to seem as casual as the film seems to imply. It helps explain a little bit why Cassie was so hopeful and heartbroken. It occurs to me that it would have been fun to see a little more of Randall... just to get more of a sense of what he was like (especially if he turns out to have been important enough to Jack to warrant an invitation to live at Lightning Flat).
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: atz75 on July 09, 2006, 01:11:29 am --- It occurs to me that it would have been fun to see a little more of Randall... just to get more of a sense of what he was like (especially if he turns out to have been important enough to Jack to warrant an invitation to live at Lightning Flat).
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My take on this is that the banner is wrong.
I just can't buy either relationship having gone on four f'in years without more progress, or frustration on the part of Randall/Cassie, or allusion by Jack or casual mention by Ennis (there's less at stake in his thing with Cassie). Of course, Alma Jr. does seem to age a little between the date and her appearance at the trailer ... But my conclusion is that it's more like a couple of years, at the most.
In any case, I just can't see this conversation:
Jack: All this time, and you ain't found nobody to marry.
Ennis: Well, I've been puttin the blocks to a good-lookin little gal in Riverton for the past four f'in years ...
OT for this thread, more suited for the Brokieisms thread, but will I ever be able to just say "four years" again without putting f'in in the middle of it?
Bucky:
In the case of Ennis and Cassie I don't think it could have been four or five years. The Del Mar divorce was granted the 6th day of November, 1975. Ennis met Cassie after a reunion scene with Jack at the greyhound bus diner. I know the song Cassie played and she and Ennis danced to was the "Devil's right hand." That song wasn't released until 1988 but it didn't really affect the story in my opinion. One thing that I did laugh at though were the wild looking clogs Cassie had on when she danced with Ennis. I can remember when girls used to wear them. No wonder Cassie's feet were killing her.
Mikaela:
What bugs me, is another timeline matter, even though it's much more explainable and less conspicuous than those Cassie/Randall silent years.
It's the whole "Troy and Kurt" exchange between Ennis and Junior.
Daddy, that was 2 years ago? ???
Yes, I get that they're aiming to imply that Ennis, who was shown to previously stay in close contact with his daughter(s), was so devastated by Jack's death that he dropped off the surface of his family's earth for much more than a year. If not physically, then at least mentally.
For one, I find that somewhat hard to believe, the way Ennis's relationship with Junior has been depicted up till then.
But if I accept that they've not communicated in a long time, then I would have expected more surprise, more hints of "this is a big deal" when Junior eventually appears. If not on his part, then on hers. At the very least, I wouldn't have expected her to be exasperated, as if it's weird that he still talks about Troy - why would she be, if she was still dating Troy last time she had contact with her father? That scene outside Ennis's trailer just doesn't *look* or come across to me as the meeting of people who despite their love for each other haven't seen or heard from each other in such a long time. And therefore, to me, the whole "Troy" discussion ain't quite right.
tamarack:
Mikaela, IMHU, I took Ennis' not realizing that Junior wasn't dating Troy anymore to be more of a result of Ennis just forgetting it when she mentioned it, not any big issue with time passing and them not communicating at all. Who she was dating was probably not an issue for Ennis, especially since she didn't live with him and he didn't have much, if any, control over it anyway. Not as though he saw this boy picking his daughter up for dates, had input into whether Troy was suitable for his daughter, etc. It just wasn't that big a deal to Ennis.
The line actually got a little smile out of me, thinking that here's something she probably mentioned to him when they visited that would have been really important to her, but he couldn't even keep her boyfriends straight! Not untypical at all, I don't think.
(P.S. Love your name! My son would have been Michaela if he had been a girl.)
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