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Your view on recent Middle East crisis
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: dly64 on August 01, 2006, 08:14:33 pm ---
All I can say is that Bush must have a small penis because he keeps using “guns” as a way to achieve so-called democracy!
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Ooops! She didn't just say that, did she?
You go girl! :D
I couldn't agree with you more Diane!
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: vkm91941 on August 01, 2006, 05:10:37 pm ---I got this e-mail today thought I'd share....
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Mr. President, simply staying the course in Iraq is not working. We need to take a new direction. We believe these recommendations comprise an effective alternative to the current open-ended commitment which is not producing the progress in Iraq we would all like to see. Thank you for your careful consideration of these suggestions.
Harry Reid, Senate Democratic Leader
Nancy Pelosi, House Democratic Leader
Dick Durbin, Senate Assistant Democratic Leader
Steny Hoyer, House Minority Whip
Carl Levin, Ranking Member, Senate Armed Services Committee
Ike Skelton, Ranking Member, House Armed Services Committee
Joe Biden, Ranking Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Tom Lantos, Ranking Member, House International Relations Committee
Jay Rockefeller, Vice Chairman, Senate Intelligence Committee
Jane Harman, Ranking Member, House Intelligence Committee
Daniel Inouye, Ranking Member, Senate Defense Appropriations Subcommittee
John Murtha, Ranking Member, House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee
Add your name now:
http://giveemhellharry.com/iraq
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Thank you again for posting this Victoria.
Of course, it doesn't surprise me that my senator Richard Lugar (R Indiana) isn't on the list of names. After all, he is George Bush's Top Boy.
I am distressed I didn't see our Democratic senator, Evan Bayh on the list. I guess even the Democrats in Indiana are really Republicans.... wolves in sheep's clothing probably. >:(
Giancarlo:
--- Quote from: dly64 on August 01, 2006, 08:14:33 pm ---This whole Middle East crisis is driving me mad. I am a pacifist … just so you understand my POV. IMO, President Bush has created much of the instability in that region by insisting the US invade Iraq to rid Sadam “Insane” and promote democracy. What has happened? Increased sectarian violence, children being murdered, and our so-called “good men/women in uniform” torturing, berating and raping other human beings. It makes me sick! I am not saying Sadam Hussein was a good or ethical leader. However, we had no exit strategy. We had nothing! We assumed that the Iraqi people would welcome us with open arms. Bullocks! Bush completely underestimated the difficulty of the situation. Furthermore, Bush does not understand the word “diplomacy.” He reacts and says that it is because of our “war on terror” … yeah, right. We are not safer than we were before. IMO, we are more of a target than ever before.
As for the whole Israel/ Lebanon conflict … it is just one more thing that makes me livid. If Israel was any other country doing what they are doing …. The US would be condemning them. Instead, we turn our backs because Israel is our “ally.” We close our eyes to all of the civilians being murdered at the hands of the Israeli soldiers. Again, the word “diplomacy” is not in Bush’s vocabulary.
All I can say is that Bush must have a small penis because he keeps using “guns” as a way to achieve so-called democracy! What a laugh! The man does not understand the word.
I am sorry I went off of the deep end about this issue. However, it just burns my butt that he proclaims he’s spreading democratic values and liberties when he continues to abuse his power here at home and strip us of our own civil liberties!
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I received a lot of criticism for my position on the Iraq war, but I do support it. And I feel that we need to give Iraq some time to achieve what it has to. It would be foolish to pull out now, afterall of this. I am not for Bush nor do I even like him, but I do understand why we did what we did. Also several of my friends have been to Iraq in the military, and do not dare generalize them. I'm sorry but I take deep offense to that. There are only a few people in the military responsible for those abuses and they have been reprimanded and punished.
I'll probably receive deep criticism from people here, but I have to say I AM NOT A PACIFIST. I'm a realist and am pragmatic.
"Instead, we've got the biggest debt load in history and a last house-of-cards economy."
Not exactly. The economy is actually quite resislent (especially to high oil prices) and the debt load is really not that big. In relation to the GDP (value of goods and services provided) it is smaller then that of European countries.
Giancarlo:
--- Quote from: ekeby on August 01, 2006, 10:23:50 pm ---Agree . . . $10 a gallon even better! We'd have a progressive government so fast it would make Bush's head spin like he was in The Exorcist. LOL re Jake and white roses . . . he should stop by my place too . . . .
"ekeby" . . . everybody always thinks it's "eek by" but it's actually "ek bee", taken from a province in Sweden. Given my situation, eek by is appropriate too . . .
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We need a libertarian government, not a conservative or progressive one. A libertarian government would really solve a lot of problems in this country.
dly64:
--- Quote from: Giancarlo on August 02, 2006, 01:59:56 pm ---Also several of my friends have been to Iraq in the military, and do not dare generalize them. I'm sorry but I take deep offense to that. There are only a few people in the military responsible for those abuses and they have been reprimanded and punished.
I'll probably receive deep criticism from people here, but I have to say I AM NOT A PACIFIST. I'm a realist and am pragmatic.
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Please accept my apologies ... I did not intend to insinuate that all service men/ women were engaging in unethical behavior. I am aware that the majority of our armed men/ women are good people who believe in what they are doing. I get a little carried away sometimes with my thoughts.
Ultimately, my belief is that violence begets violence. Evil begets evil. Hatred begets hatred. What we, the USA, have done (IMO) is create an environment of violence, evil and hatred. We have options, but choose not to exercise restraint. We react with guns and rhetoric. We put good men and women in a situation that is bound for failure. More and more people die every day. For what? So-called democracy? (Personally I wish Bush would make his all-to-precious daughters serve in the military. Then he might consider a change in strategy since, currently, he has no regard for human life. Nor does he pursue the option for peace. It’s “shoot now, ask questions later.”)
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