Brokeback Mountain: Our Community's Common Bond > Brokeback Mountain Open Forum
6 months on.......Where are you now?
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: horo35 on September 01, 2006, 11:15:21 am --- But it's a problem if they make a sexual advance towards me....and yes it does happen to people.
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Women frequently are confronted with sexual advances by straight men we're not interested in. It doesn't turn us against all straight men. Sometimes not even against the specific one making the advancements.
If you're not interested, why not just say so politely and move on? That's what we do. (Usually.)
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on September 01, 2006, 04:59:24 pm ---Women frequently are confronted with sexual advances by straight men we're not interested in. It doesn't turn us against all straight men. Sometimes not even against the specific one making the advancements.
If you're not interested, why not just say so politely and move on? That's what we do. (Usually.)
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Katherine, have I told you lately that I love you? :)
I don't mean to be attacking you, Horo - I think the fact that you've seen the movie, and not just once, and that you own it on DVD speaks volumes for your open-mindedness. But I just want to add that I think in the case of your friend whose neighbor made a pass at him when they were drunk, I think the neighbor thought he was gay. Doesn't matter if he never came right out and told him - he had a hunch and it backfired. When your friend said no, I'm guessing the poor guy didn't pursue it further and ultimately rape him and is probably utterly humiliated now.
Think of Jack for a moment - what really did he have to go on that Ennis might be interested in him sexually other than a gut feeling? Ennis had never given *any* indication that he was interested in him in that way before Jack took his shot. Ennis could have beaten the crap out of him or worse or at least left him feeling utterly humiliated. Jack took a chance, it worked out. Often gay men in the real world take that same chance and it doesn't. A few here have admitted to it, and two I know personally have. And as Katherine so succinctly pointed out, what's the difference between that and me making a pass at a man I'm attracted to who, for whatever reasons, doesn't share my feelings? Or a man making one at me (and it's happened with guys who know I'm married and who don't) with whom I don't share the same feelings? Answer: there isn't one. Or at least there really shouldn't be.
(edited to get Horo's name right ;))
horo35:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on September 01, 2006, 04:59:24 pm ---Women frequently are confronted with sexual advances by straight men we're not interested in. It doesn't turn us against all straight men. Sometimes not even against the specific one making the advancements.
If you're not interested, why not just say so politely and move on? That's what we do. (Usually.)
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You will have to read my post again....I never said that if a gay man makes a sexual advance towards me that in turn will make me hate the whole gay community. And I also speak for straight people too....yes I'm sure women get that kind of crap from men all the time! :laugh: But I would say the same thing if I were a woman..if a man tried a move on me and I didn't want it..he would get a "negative" reaction like a punch to the face! :laugh: Bottom line is people should be respected and I'm pretty sure we can all figure out (or have that gut feeling) whos gay and whos not...sorry but I dont believe that my friends' neighbour suspected he was gay. I just dont buy that. As for comparing the movie to his situation....well guess what it's a movie. It's not a true story...its a work of fiction thought up from an author of a story about 2 guys and an imaginary mountain. Sorry guys..don't mean to be straight forward...but that's how I think. And thats why I probably don't post much on here is due to the fact that I am straight and my opinions will not be understood by the gay community (just like they dont understand us). But I for one am a friend and will stand by their side....just not among them.
Katie77:
Horo.....I can see from these posts, that it is YOU who are not being understood, and your opinions are being misinterpreted.......and that is a real shame, because I think this board needs opinions and feedback from a straight guy.
Please continue to post your opinions, and please, all you gay guys and gals, give a bit of respect to them, and as I said before, dont take them as critisism.....
This guy has taken the time to read your words, feel your feelings and because of that accepts your way of life....give him the same benefit, you dont have to agree with him, but at least you will get an idea of how HE is thinking, and possibly how a lot of straight men feel.....this bloke is on your side...
My signature says it all....whichever way you are looking at .....just because it is different, doesnt mean it is wrong
Katie77:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on September 01, 2006, 04:14:29 pm ---On to another thought...I've been thinking about the line, "What do your grandchildren think about the picture of two men kissing?" First of all, they aren't kissing in the picture. Their heads are close together and they are lying down together but you can't tell that in the picture. And, what's the big deal about two men kissing anyway? This is commonplace in Europe. Better than pictures of two men beating each other up or killing each other, which you can see 24/7 on any channel of TV.
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Yes Front Ranger.....getting back to the original theme of the thread.....theres enough of all that other shit that is going to be pushed in front of our kids and grandkids....
Lets hope that if they see enough of the good side, like those pics I have displayed, they will grow up with a far more understanding of what peace and love is all about.....
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