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David:

--- Quote from: ednbarby on October 14, 2006, 10:30:45 am ---So now I watched the movie last night ... As I watched Ennis close that closet in his trailer at the end, I literally thought "Oh, Ennis. You'll never be able to get past it." 
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     I agree with you 100% here.    Alot of folks think that Ennis has made great progress at the end of the movie.   The mailbox, going to alma Jrs wedding, etc etc.

    Wrong!     moving away from town and living in that trailer is one more step to isolate himself from suspecting eyes.    Locking Jacks shirt up in the closet in a shrine may be a sign he accepts Jacks love, but surely not a sign that he will go out and meet a new boyfriend.

silkncense:
Another hug out to you, Barb. 

Sadly, I think you are right in believing things are not better.  I also think family sex abuse is extremely underreported because of the family issues & shame that in itself causes.  I don't mean to go where I shouldn't - but, if you haven't, maybe someday you & your brother can come to a place of peace (which does not mean to say acceptance of his abuse).  His rationalization will be defensive but when/if you are ready - you'll know what to say.

And again you are so right - being a pedophile has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation (straight or gay) they are simply sexually attracted to children.  I have not seen Foley using his being gay - but I have seen the newspapers somehow connect the two. (How typical).  I have, however, seen that he does use sexual abuse as a reason & unfortunately, there is a pattern of the abused becoming abusers.

ednbarby:

--- Quote from: silkncense on October 16, 2006, 01:11:26 pm ---Another hug out to you, Barb. 

Sadly, I think you are right in believing things are not better.  I also think family sex abuse is extremely underreported because of the family issues & shame that in itself causes.  I don't mean to go where I shouldn't - but, if you haven't, maybe someday you & your brother can come to a place of peace (which does not mean to say acceptance of his abuse).  His rationalization will be defensive but when/if you are ready - you'll know what to say.

And again you are so right - being a pedophile has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation (straight or gay) they are simply sexually attracted to children.  I have not seen Foley using his being gay - but I have seen the newspapers somehow connect the two. (How typical).  I have, however, seen that he does use sexual abuse as a reason & unfortunately, there is a pattern of the abused becoming abusers.
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Right - Mark Foley himself isn't saying, "Look, I'm gay, and that's why I'm so f***ed up" but the media is absolutely spinning it that way.  Have I mentioned lately how much I hate the media rat bastards that do such evil things?

ednbarby:

--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on October 16, 2006, 10:41:00 am ---     I agree with you 100% here.    Alot of folks think that Ennis has made great progress at the end of the movie.   The mailbox, going to alma Jrs wedding, etc etc.

    Wrong!     moving away from town and living in that trailer is one more step to isolate himself from suspecting eyes.    Locking Jacks shirt up in the closet in a shrine may be a sign he accepts Jacks love, but surely not a sign that he will go out and meet a new boyfriend.

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Right back atcha.  Yes, his closing of that closet troubles me greatly, and on this last viewing I had my moment of revelation at that precise point because it is so troubling.  When the screenwriters themselves say that they don't see Ennis getting any further in terms of accepting himself, and in fact see him actually becoming more isolated and more homophobic, and when the creator ends the story with the line, from Ennis' point of view, "But if you can't fix it, you've got to stand it," there's no way to me he would have ever gotten past it.  Everyone is free, of course, to interpret it as they may and wish and hope the best for him, but I don't see him as getting any further as far as accepting himself goes.  I do like to think of him being a doting grandfather, but that is already in his nature, and of trying harder not to let Alma Jr. and Jenny/Francine down, but that's as far as it goes.

starboardlight:
yeah, even the beginning of the short story takes place years later and Ennis hasn't moved on. He's still in that trailer by himself with dreams of Jack and the tire iron each night. I had wanted a more redemptive ending, but you're right. He doesn't and can't move on.

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