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Corona - what does help you? Your fears, thoughts, everything
brianr:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 27, 2020, 11:27:39 am ---That's the sort of thing that worries me. A lot. About Big Brother being able to trace all of us, using the excuse that they need to trace contacts.
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This does not worry me in the least. I am amazed at the detail about their lives people put on social media. I should be in Greece now. In Greece everyone, not just tourists, must carry ID and show it to any police person who requests it. They can be arrested if not. It would not worry me as I never go much beyond my front gate without my wallet and drivers licence.
serious crayons:
With their GPS systems, smart phones show where you are within about 10 feet. If you're coming up to an intersection, it says "turn left" at pretty much the moment you arrive at the intersection. If you ask your phone something like, where's the nearest Target store? It doesn't show you a random assortment of Targets in your city. It shows you the one that's 1.2 miles from your current location, then one that's 3.6 miles and so on.
So since they have that underlying ability, there's no reason to think it couldn't be used or accessed by others.
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on May 27, 2020, 01:02:56 pm ---As far as "returning to normal", what is normal?
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Exactly. I think most people would start with something like, "being able to see my friends and family in person from fewer than 6 feet away and hug loved ones." And of course, people who are out of work or whose businesses are failing will want those industries to go back to normal. And most people would like to go to restaurants and theaters and sports events.
With a vaccine or medical cure, that kind of normal could come back fairly quickly, although by then many individual businesses, if not whole industries, will have been destroyed.
--- Quote ---After cataclysms like this in the past, some whole industries collapsed, while others surged.
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That's already underway. Restaurants, travel and hospitality: collapsing. Zoom and apps like that, delivery systems like Amazon: surging.
(New theory: the pandemic is a hoax by the Washington Post to boost Jeff Bezos' business. :laugh: I have met people in recent weeks who would believe that the minute they heard it.)
--- Quote ---My fear is that if we try to return to the normal of the past, we'll just fall into a Depression, because the past ways of doing things don't work anymore. This was evident way before the pandemic but now we have the perfect opportunity to sweep the old ways away. In some cases, technology will help us build whole new industries and networks. In other cases, we'll be wise to return to heirloom approaches.
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Sure enough. Now all we have to do is figure out what old ways should be swept away, what whole new industries we should build, and what heirloom approaches are worth preserving.
Considering we've only been dealing with this for a few months yet are having to make decisions on the fly while trying to minimize human deaths and economic collapse, that will be the tough part.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on May 28, 2020, 10:16:57 am ---(New theory: the pandemic is a hoax by the Washington Post to boost Jeff Bezos' business. :laugh: I have met people in recent weeks who would believe that the minute they heard it.)
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I thought it was a Democratic plot to defeat the Great Orange Satan? ??? ;D
Seriously, here's something I've been wondering about the past day or two:
I'm hearing that, around here, anyway, restaurants, when they open at all, will be required to use disposable menus. So, I'm thinking, that's a lot of paper, even at 50% capacity. Why can't they just use laminated menus that can be wiped down or otherwise disinfected between use? ???
I haven't heard anything yet about paper plates and plastic utensils.
brianr:
We are allowed to meet in groups up to 100 from midday today but must keep records.
My walking group will meet again next Tuesday. We have 67 on the roll but many have not walked for a long while. I tend to cull the roll in July every year. The maximum has been 36, usually in the mid 20's.
We usually meet at the same spot and car share but I have told people to organise their sharing with friends or drive themselves to the start point. It is only 15 km this time.
I always just mark the roll during morning tea and most would not notice I am doing it. I have announced that there will be a formal roll call before we start walking so I have a proper list. It is the start of winter so we will finish by lunch and I have suggested many may want to go to a local tavern but to email me and I will let them know approx how many are coming, many will go straight home. The Tavern will have to take names or use the QR code for those of us who have the app. I went to a cafe in the nursery/hardware store yesterday and used the app, saved writing my details in the book. I was served with proper cup, saucer and plate, no menus, they are on the wall. I often go to 'Muffin Break' in the city mall food court and last week they gave me my muffin in a paper bag and my coffee in a paper cup which I do not like.
We have now had 6 days without any new cases and there are no active cases in the South Island but i we have to remain vigilant. There is a lot of unemployment.
serious crayons:
It’s funny, QR codes were big here for a short period maybe 5 years ago but I don’t know how much they’re used now.
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