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I know it's probably wrong of me, but I find this *really* funny...
JennyC:
Ted Haggard admitted Friday that he bought methamphetamine from Mike Jones (the gay escort), but denied that he had a gay relationship with him.
A quick search on “Methamphetamine” tells me that it is schedule II controlled drugs, that is available only via prescription, and distribution is carefully controlled and monitored by the DEA. But due to its notorious nature linked to abuse and addiction, medical professionals are averse to prescribing it.
The way I understand is being gay is not illegal, but in possession of controlled drugs without prescription is. Let’s admit that law normally sets a lower standard to regular people’s social behavior than religious moral value does. You would think one may choose to admit a behavior that is against a questionable moral value than to admit conduct illegal activity. But no surprise when Ted Haggard had to pick lesser of the two evils, he chose to admit getting meth from Mike Jones to take off some heat from the scandal. Way to go for Pastor Haggard for setting an example for his congregation.
What’s more irritating to me is the reason behind his choice. While we are all here thinking there is nothing wrong being gay or being different, there is a lot of people still think otherwise, and they have been told repeated so by all those predominant Christian advocates. It drugs their mind and becomes the truth they hold on to. Particularly with the issue being more on the front line than ever before in the recent years, the resistance becomes more ferocious. I think anyone who may be secretly relieved that he admitted to one allegation but not the other was just as hypocrite as he is. Urrg!
He has repeatedly lied on camera since yesterday, including denying he knew Mike Jones. And what’s more is people already caught him lying again. While he maintains that "I was buying it for me, but I never used it. I was tempted." The voice message suggested otherwise.
"Hi Mike, this is Art," one call began, according to the station. "Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get any more. Either $100 or $200 supply."
get any more ??
As to the other allegation, what the heck, he may later come out to say he is not gay, he was just tempted. So the lies continue…
moremojo:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on November 03, 2006, 02:25:33 pm ---I'll say it again. 7 November cannot get here fast enough.
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Barb, I voted early (yesterday to be precise). I'm anxious too for November 7th to get here so we can hopefully get some of these bums out of the house(s). I think there's a real chance the Dems might be able to recapture the House of Representatives. As for my state's gubernatorial race, I fear there's a very real probability that one of the most venal Republicans to hold office in recent years will win another, much to be lamented term.
As for Haggard, I think he's history insofar as any kind of church leadership is concerned. What he has already admitted to is bad enough, from an hypocrisy angle, to warrant his permanent exclusion from any presumed moral high ground.
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: moremojo on November 03, 2006, 06:41:47 pm ---Barb, I voted early (yesterday to be precise). I'm anxious too for November 7th to get here so we can hopefully get some of these bums out of the house(s). I think there's a real chance the Dems might be able to recapture the House of Representatives. As for my state's gubernatorial race, I fear there's a very real probability that one of the most venal Republicans to hold office in recent years will win another, much to be lamented term.
As for Haggard, I think he's history insofar as any kind of church leadership is concerned. What he has already admitted to is bad enough, from an hypocrisy angle, to warrant his permanent exclusion from any presumed moral high ground.
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I voted yesterday, too, as a matter of fact. So did my husband. I'm afraid the Republican is probably going to win the gubernatorial race down here, too (what state are you in, again?). But I too hold high hopes for reclaiming the House.
Whether or not the Church disowns Haggard, the larger issue is whether the exposure of his hypocrisy will put a dent in the gay marriage issue in Colorado. My fear is that all it will serve to do is bring out even more religious zealots in that state to vote to ban it. Still, I admire Jones for trying to make a difference if that was indeed his intention.
And I'm with you, too, Jenny - what a mad world it is we live in where drug abuse is considered the lesser of two evils where the other evil is homosexuality. That the latter is even considered an evil at all is mad enough as it is.
moremojo:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on November 03, 2006, 06:56:51 pm ---I'm afraid the Republican is probably going to win the gubernatorial race down here, too (what state are you in, again?).
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I'm in Texas, currently governed (and I use that term charitably) by Rick (rhymes with a vulgar term for the male anatomy) Perry. Perry and Bush are surely two of the most contemptible people ever to hold the office of Governor in my native state, at least in my lifetime.
nakymaton:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on November 03, 2006, 06:56:51 pm ---Whether or not the Church disowns Haggard, the larger issue is whether the exposure of his hypocrisy will put a dent in the gay marriage issue in Colorado. My fear is that all it will serve to do is bring out even more religious zealots in that state to vote to ban it. Still, I admire Jones for trying to make a difference if that was indeed his intention.
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There are actually two votes in Colorado... one to change the law to create domestic partnerships, and one to amend the constitution to ban gay marriage. I'm scared that the homophobes will get riled up about somebody saying their leader is gay, and come out in force. (Or not come out, as in the case of Haggard.) But I've got a lot less trust in Colorado voters than Lee does... maybe she's right, and the domestic partnerships are bound to win. I don't know.
Argh. I just wish there was somebody in public, in the so-called liberal media, pointing out that using meth is bad, and being gay isn't. ::)
(I've voted already, too. But I'm still pretty stressed out about the whole thing, and mostly I wish Colorado Springs would just go away...)
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