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Jack and Alma Jr.- Parallels?
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: fernly on December 31, 2006, 02:39:27 pm ---Maybe another way that Jr. takes after Ennis...by the time she tells him about the wedding, seems like it's been planned for quite a while. I wonder if she put off telling her dad, worried, (same as he was to tell Jack about August), expecting Ennis to say exactly what he did at first, that he couldn't.
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I planned my wedding long-distance over the phone, and I'm not sure it's been in the works very long. What she tells Ennis is the date, place and that Jenny will be singing and Monroe catering the reception. These two are family members, and if Jenny and family have been attending this Methodist Church, it might be just a matter of a week or so.
But she clearly does expect him to turn her down and not be there for her. And the very fact that she even asks her father to her wedding indicates how estranged Ennis is from even those he loves the most.
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: fernly on December 31, 2006, 02:39:27 pm ---Oh, geeze, Lee, "the one who doesn't appear again after Jack dies." I'd always wondered about that. No wonder Jenny 'disappearing' reasonated.
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Yes, but....
He does agree to attend the wedding, and according to what Junior tells him about her plans he will in fact hear the "angel" sing again on that day.
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: JakeTwist on December 31, 2006, 07:33:33 pm ---Well Marge, I guess I will tell you if you did not figure it out yourself. I was referring to the first reply that you posted, the one that came to my e-mail inbox. Y'see Marge, when you post a post, the people who have previously posted on the thread will get future posts to the same thread sent directly to their inbox. Unless they disable the feature after they post. So you see, your first post went to my in-box, and I was able to read your initial reply. Then you edited it on the thread. That was the post I was commenting on.
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One of the reasons a "modify" button is so necessary is that things look different in print than they do when spoken. Or to put it more simply for you, a flippant remark that would be just that in a RL conversation might look too aggressive posted on a forum. I often edit posts after reviewing them, for that reason.
It appears that a fictional character isn't the only person you have issues with, but that's your personal business. Happy New Year to you.
belbbmfan:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on December 31, 2006, 05:09:17 pm ---One of my reactions the first time I ever saw that scene was a bit of sadness at her having to invite her own father to her wedding. I never invited my Dad and he would have been astounded if I had. And something about her tone of voice suggests that he's kept that barrier up between himself and even the people closest to him consistently enough that she doesn't exactly expect an affirmative answer.
Do you think her invitation included giving her away? She mentioned her stepfather catering the reception but nothing about that part of it.
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I've enjoyed reading some of the posts here. You're right Marge, it was sad that Junior had to invite her Dad to her wedding. A wedding that was all planned and organised without him even knowing.
What struck me a another sign of how detached Ennis had become of this family was that he asked Junior 'So what's the occasion?' As if it just couldn't be a social visit by his daughter to see how he was doing. And that he didn't even knew she was dating Kurt... :(
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: belbbmfan on January 01, 2007, 12:23:04 pm ---I've enjoyed reading some of the posts here. You're right Marge, it was sad that Junior had to invite her Dad to her wedding. A wedding that was all planned and organised without him even knowing.
What struck me a another sign of how detached Ennis had become of this family was that he asked Junior 'So what's the occasion?' As if it just couldn't be a social visit by his daughter to see how he was doing. And that he didn't even knew she was dating Kurt... :(
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Interesting parallel to his sister - that she "married a roughneck" too. Maybe that's one of the sources of him always expecting to be alone.
On the subject of parallels to Jack - in getting up to get the wine out of the refrigerator, he uses the same body language as when headed toward the tent in the second tent scene - thinking a moment, then coming to a decision and pushing on his knees to get up. Done very late in the day, but in the end he does make a decision on the side of love.
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