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Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: marlb42 on January 23, 2007, 05:24:44 pm ---Penthesilea
Wow, I cannot believe that you went to all that trouble to prove wrong ;D ;D ;D
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You're welcome ;)
--- Quote ---I am still convinced though it is two days, because to me the sheep sky is still much much lighter that the coyote/dog shy.
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No problem here. My point was that it was possible to happen all in one day from the timeline. But it could also have been over two days. I don't claim to have any final answers, just my opinion (that is was in one day).
--- Quote ---And if it is a coyote that Ennis killed and butchered, it also seems like a lot to do in one afternoon so another day still makes sense if me even if that was the case. (Although I still think it may have been the dog)
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I think five or six hours from late fore-noon to afternoon are time enough to kill and butcher a coyote. But anyway.
I don't understand the bolded sentence. What may have been the dog? Do you think that Ennis killed a dog? Or one of the dogs killed a coyote? ??
--- Quote ---Besides I don't see how Jack's clothes could have dried in just a couple of hours. I had worked as a, well basically a nanny, in the Catskill mountains in NY, and I hung clothes outside to dry, and I am sure it took more that an hour or two.
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Again: if Jack washes the clothes around noon (the short shadows), there's plenty of time for drying till evening. Maybe six or seven hours?
--- Quote ---And anyway, it makes more sense to me, and I can imagine that Ennis spent two days and a whole night by himself up on the mountain, trying to understand and deal with what happened, trying to figure out what should happen next, and what he should say to Jack.
I want to imagine that Ennis spend the night on the mountain, brooding and confused, till Jack made his way up........
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I think the same about Ennis (confused, brooding, trying to figure out), just not that is was in two days.
And I think Jack would not have been able to stand it that long. I think he even couldn't stand the uncertainness for one day. He couldn't wait for Ennis to come back for supper (and maybe doubted that Ennis would come back this evening, maybe he feared that Ennis would just do what you think he did: stay up with the sheep for the night).
--- Quote ---Great work with the pictures. ;)
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Thanks.
moremojo:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on January 23, 2007, 06:01:14 pm --- I'm more in the one-day camp, maybe because I like that scenario better.
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Me too, and one reason may be that it hurts my heart to think of the boys' physical intimacy on Brokeback being even more curtailed than I had already imagined.
Cameron:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on January 23, 2007, 06:16:23 pm ---
I think five or six hours from late fore-noon to afternoon are time enough to kill and butcher a coyote. But anyway.
I don't understand the bolded sentence. What may have been the dog? Do you think that Ennis killed a dog? Or one of the dogs killed a coyote? ??
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Hello again,
I didn't mean to bold that sentence about the dog, it was a mistake. And no I certainly don't think that Ennis or a coyote killed the dog. i was thinking that that it was a dog, showing him watching over Ennis resting on the mountain, and maybe no other animal was killed at all, that the tail was just the dead sheep's tail.
I had always assumed too that it was the coyote too, but still back to my original point, isn't the sky lighter with the sheep? That gave me my whole theory about the two day thing, and that maybe it was just a shot of one of the dogs watching Ennis and not a coyote at all.
I certainly understand your points about all of it, but again I was hoping and looking for proof that it was a two day sequence.
But it certainly makes sense that Jack certainly would not wait two days and would go up the mountain that evening.
But what also started to make me sure it was two days is that I have just focused on TS 1 and which I hadn't really before, and I just realized how much of an active participant Ennis was, I didn't realize that before.
At first I was thinking that Ennis was just wondering when he left how he let himself go along with Jack and TS 1.
But then I realized how much Ennis just didn't just go along, I finally saw how once Jack got it started Ennis really took the lead in many ways.
Realizing that made me think that Ennis was far more confused and well I am not sure how to put this exactly but totally surprised and almost disbelieving of his own actions and passion I guess. Thats why the two day theory makes a lot of sense to me. He almost couldn't face Jack because he was so confused and surprised by himself, and he really needed to think about it before he could bring himself to even think of facing Jack again, so he stayed up on the mountain all night.
I hope I am making some sense, I know many of you have discussed this all before but I am still seeing new things and trying to figure it all out.
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: marlb42 on January 23, 2007, 05:24:44 pm ---
And if it is a coyote that Ennis killed and butchered, it also seems like a lot to do in one afternoon so another day still makes sense if me even if that was the case. (Although I still think it may have been the dog)
Besides I don't see how Jack's clothes could have dried in just a couple of hours. I had worked as a, well basically a nanny, in the Catskill mountains in NY, and I hung clothes outside to dry, and I am sure it took more that an hour or two.
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Hi Y'all, this is gross, but I can tell you from rustic living experience in my early 20s, that skinning should be done right after killing. Granted my experience wasn't with coyotes. We had 'em on the land, but didn't kill them.
I can picture Jack putting on not-quite-dry clothes.
Jack waited four effen' years soon after this happened - he could have waited more than one day to go see Ennis up on the mountain - but I don't think he did.
Katie77:
Until I read this thread, I didnt realize that the scene with the "I aint queer" conversation, was actually up on the mountain with the sheep, and that obviously Jack had gone up there to see Ennis after TS1......I had always thought, that it was Ennis returning to camp that night, and walking up to Jack, who was waiting for him....
On viewing the scene again, I can see the sheep, and where the boys are, and it certainly adds another dimension to what was going on in their heads after TS1....Jack obviously needed to get into Ennis' face and confront their feelings or before the feelings might get lost and replaced with anger or embarrassment.
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