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Phillip Dampier:
[This was originally posted in our Ladies Forum, which was discontinued May 31, 2006, and merged into our Open Forum -PMD]
On the suggestion of BBMGrandma, BetterMost brings you a ladies-only forum for people to discuss the film and moving beyond it. She will be moderator of the forum, and as I am a guy, I'll turn things over to her from this point.
Right now every registered user can see this forum, but as a courtesy to its theme, if fellow guys would join me in posting in other BetterMost forums and honor the theme of this one, that would be great.
If you have an idea for a new forum you would find a useful addition to BetterMost, just let me know. It's not at all difficult to get one launched here.
BBMGrandma:
Hi Gals.....WOW....Philip has somehow lost his mind and made ME moderator of this subject. Be careful what you wish for.... ;) I humbly accepted his offer and HERE I am!! and I HOPE...here YOU are too!!
But seriously....I'm a 67 year old grandma...<if you haven't met me before> hetero...and I'm so aware from emails I've gotten from other 'Brokeback Mountain Broads" that I thought this would be a good place for us to wrench out our emotions that we're experiencing so very deeply.
I, for one...have been impacted in every aspect of my life by this most wonderful book/movie. Brokeback has taken me places I'd LONG forgotten. Memories that HURT....that make me QUESTION....that make me SMILE. A vast array of emotions that somehow have grabbed me by the gut....and spun me around like a TOP!!
I waver between wanting to 'mother' Ennis and Jack and/or wanting to kiss those soft sweet lips in an unbelievably amorous encounter. It's totally confusing to me.
One of the most deeply felt collisions I have had in my lifetima was falling deeply in love with a gay man. I was so in love with him. The WORLD turned on his smile. His laughter...his caring....his thoughtfulness. He was my HERO!! Well....I had this half baked idea that I could 'change him'. This was in the late 60's...and I was totally ignorant about homosexuality at that time. A babe in woods...was I!! We made wonderful...passionate...desperately sweet love and then he would disappear for days at a time. <ahhhh...Jack> I knew where he was going and yet I hung in there anyway....pining and wishing. <ahhh...Alma> I finally realized that my love for him just wasn't what he needed. . <ahhhh...Ennis> We finally opened up to each other and realized that we were hurting each other...tremendously. Off he went into a wonderful relationship with his new 'partner' I accepted it completely and was happy for him. In fact....all these years later he's STILL in my life....as my dearest and most loving friend. And for that I am everlastingly grateful.
Soooooo....this movie has truly impacted my life. TRULY!! It's also resurrected other lost loves in my life. All those 'coulda's....woulda's...shoulda's. REGRETS that have been dangling inside my soul and heart.
So....welcome ladies....<and men if you're so inclined to post here>
Please feel free to 'let it out' and share with those of us who are feeling all those same heartaches and puzzlements over this emotional upheaval called Brokeback Mountain!!!
Nancy
donnaread:
Thanks Nancy, and thanks to Phillip for giving us heterosexual women the chance to have others like us to talk to. Don't know what this movie has done to us, but like you I am torn between my compassion for the characters Ennis and Jake, and the very strong sexual attraction I feel for Jake and Heath. I'm 56 years old and my own son will be 30 next week :o, and I also have a daughter who is 24, so she's Heath and Jake's age. Of course I can't get either of them to go to see the movie with me...my son would be too embarrassed and my daughter said she does't think she can stand to see Heath kiss another man, lol. I've talked so much about it though, I think my son will watch it on DVD, and I know my daughter will be too curious NOT to watch it! I have a nephew my daughter's age who is gay, and they grew up very close...in fact my daughter is getting a divorce, and my nephew has moved in with her "again" they've done this off and on since they were both out of high school. Every time my daughter and her husband would separate, my nephew moved in with her. Can't get him to go watch the movie with me either, maybe he's embarrassed, too.
OK, does anyone know the answer to this question? Why doesn't the movie make me
cry? I get a tear in my eye every now and then, but usually all I wind up with is a knot the size of Wyoming in my chest. The last time I went to see the movie, there was more kleenex on the floor in the theater than popcorn. Myself, I have not been able to eat anything while watching it. The first time I saw it, I brought candy and it stayed in my purse...since then I haven't even bothered. I think if I could have a good "cry" about it I'd probably feel better.
Also ladies...there are some nude pix of Heath shot by the papparazi when he was doing the scene jumping into the river. Just go to google and type in Heath Ledger nude ;D. Too bad they got a body double for Jake...he was off the set for two weeks at the time. Jake is the one I find so gorgeous,
So, thanks again Phillip and Nancy, this is going to be a great forum.
Donna :)
juneaux:
I, too, am a heterosexual female. I'm 38 and have never been married (although I do live with someone). Although I'm still not sure why this movie resonates with me as much as it does. After seeing it the first time I immediately purchased the book. I've paid for many of friends to see this movie and have been disappointed ~for lack of a better word~ that it didn't touch them as it did me. This movie makes me want to make changes. Changes in myself and in the world. I do have gay/lesbian/ and transgendered friends and empathize with the social plight they experience. Is this because I'm Black or because I'm a Pieces or because I'm a woman? Who knows? Like BBMGrandMa, I want to protect these characters from the cruelty of the "real world." Making the world a more tolerable place is the only way I can think will achieve this.
PS Nancy, the only time I *didn't* cry when watching this movie was on Feb 14th with my partner. He held my hand for the last half hour. Then, again, I cry at ceratin commercials...
BBMGrandma:
Good day to you Juneaux
It's so nice to see you here. I loved reading your post and I SO agree with you. Tolerance...mixed with some our 'Brokeback Mountain' love and caring...would INDEED make such a beautiful world for us ALL to be proud of. It may not happen in MY lifetime<I'm a LOL of 67> but I'm convinced that a sturdy foundation can be built....with the kind of people we have in here...working on it!!
It may sound a little bit corny....but if we ALL held hands...we'd imbue that love into each other's hearts and souls. Let's all get working on it out there....folks!!
Nancy
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060219/SJMAG/602190336/1004/LIVING Here's a great article I picked up recently. ENJOY!!!
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