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Big topic for debate on the TOB is the missing "I Love You"
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: meryl on April 17, 2006, 06:59:35 pm ---I think maybe the closest Ennis comes to saying "I love you" is "There ain't no reins on this one."
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I agree with this one. But, I would add that it's just as important that when Jack asks him how long they'll be together (under Ennis's horrible rule of only 'once in a while') Ennis says "for as long as we can ride it." He's essentially saying he wants to be with Jack for as long as humanly possible. I think this sentence softens the blow for Jack of Ennis's rejection of the cow and calf operation. Otherwise... I think film-Ennis almost exclusively expresses his love physically (we know that book-Ennis is much more vocal about his affection).
Some of my favorite instances of Ennis's love are things like the hand-holding in the 1st tent scene, everything about the 2nd tent scene, his explosion of smiles and kisses for the reunion, the way he caresses Jack's arm in the motel (these caresses sometimes are his only response to Jack's comments... most importantly the "Brokeback got us good" comment... he really rubs Jack's arm there), etc.
This topic is reminding me of all those old threads on the old board about Ennis falling in love first, etc.
As for Jack, well, he just wears his heart on his sleeve for me.
vkm91941:
--- Quote from: atz75 on April 17, 2006, 07:55:27 pm ---
--- Quote from: meryl on April 17, 2006, 06:59:35 pm ---I think maybe the closest Ennis comes to saying "I love you" is "There ain't no reins on this one."
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As for Jack, well, he just wears his heart on his sleeve for me.
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Yep, I agree with this statement about Jack. Everything about him is right there in his eyes all the time. It would be so easy to crush him. He's like a big ol puppy dog who gets kicked and comes right back and loves you just the same. He is a kind hearted and giving person. ... A cheeky, quicksilver character adrift in a world of less kindhearted strangers.
littleguitar:
--- Quote from: vkm91941 on April 17, 2006, 08:50:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: atz75 on April 17, 2006, 07:55:27 pm ---
--- Quote from: meryl on April 17, 2006, 06:59:35 pm ---I think maybe the closest Ennis comes to saying "I love you" is "There ain't no reins on this one."
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As for Jack, well, he just wears his heart on his sleeve for me.
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Yep, I agree with this statement about Jack. Everything about him is right there in his eyes all the time. It would be so easy to crush him. He's like a big ol puppy dog who gets kicked and comes right back and loves you just the same. He is a kind hearted and giving person. ... A cheeky, quicksilver character adrift in a world of less kindhearted strangers.
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That is so true Victoria! That is one of the reasons that last shot of his face after the flashback is so heartbreaking for me. He looks so bitter and angry in that shot, like everything you just said about him finally had been crushed out, almost like he had no one to go back to and love (maybe because he had decided he was going to give up on Ennis? I'm not sure, I still haven't decided where I lie on this one...) This thread is making me really sad... :'(
DeeDee:
I'm not real big on noticing symbolisms or subtleties. I usually need several viewings to catch on. The first time I saw the movie, and I saw that flashback scene, I immediately thought to myself, he's giving Ennis up.
The look on his face showed love lost, and heartbreaking resolve that he needed to move one and it was not going to be easy.
You're right, very depressing thread.. :'(
nakymaton:
--- Quote from: meryl on April 17, 2006, 06:59:35 pm ---Heh, this is so reminiscent of my Lord of the Rings days.
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;D Heh. Yep.
I would need to get better at making screencaps to catch the "I love you" moments. There's this smile that Ennis does -- and I'm not sure that Jack's looking at him most of those times -- but that's what says it, for me.
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