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Big topic for debate on the TOB is the missing "I Love You"

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Meryl:
Well, howdy, nakymaton!   Glad to see y' here.  Cuppa coffee, piece a cherry cake?  ;D

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: atz75 on April 17, 2006, 07:55:27 pm ---I agree with this one.  But, I would add that it's just as important that when Jack asks him how long they'll be together (under Ennis's horrible rule of only 'once in a while') Ennis says "for as long as we can ride it."  He's essentially saying he wants to be with Jack for as long as humanly possible.  I think this sentence softens the blow for Jack of Ennis's rejection of the cow and calf operation.

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Definitely both Ennis' "no reins" and "ride it" remarks, and I would also add his "if this thing grabs hold of us at the wrong place, wrong time" -- as if Ennis' normally tucked-in passion is so uncontrollable that he can't fully trust himself not to burst into a public display of affection. As, in fact, he did in the apartment parking lot!

And Jack's cheek-caressing shortly afterward is another.

And re this:

--- Quote from: littleguitar on April 17, 2006, 09:28:10 pm --- that last shot of his face after the flashback is so heartbreaking for me.  He looks so bitter and angry in that shot, like everything you just said about him finally had been crushed out, almost like he had no one to go back to and love (maybe because he had decided he was going to give up on Ennis? I'm not sure, I still haven't decided where I lie on this one...)

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I would add that pretty much everything Ennis said after Jack's speech, culminating in "I can't stand it no more" and a collapse mirroring the early one in the alley, is a way of saying "I love you" (not exactly an upbeat way of expresing it, of course). So is Jack's immediately comforting response.

nakymaton:

--- Quote from: meryl on April 17, 2006, 11:23:59 pm ---Well, howdy, nakymaton!   Glad to see y' here.  Cuppa coffee, piece a cherry cake?  ;D

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;D
Can't have no coffee just now, but I'll take some a that cherry cake. (Almost bedtime, you see. Plus I live too close to Texas to drink coffee. Or somethin' like that.)

slayers_creek_oth:
The scene when Ennis gets back from the bear incident....Jack begins to bitch (which he does so well btw) until he sees what has happened to Ennis.....then he turns to him and says in a very soft and calming voice....."what in the hell happened Ennis?" 

The way he says it........couldn't be more concerned......thats 'I love you' at its finest IMO!  But what the hell do I know...

vkm91941:

--- Quote from: slayers_creek_oth on April 18, 2006, 01:50:34 am ---The scene when Ennis gets back from the bear incident....Jack begins to bitch (which he does so well btw) until he sees what has happened to Ennis.....then he turns to him and says in a very soft and calming voice....."what in the hell happened Ennis?" 

The way he says it........couldn't be more concerned......thats 'I love you' at its finest IMO!  But what the hell do I know...

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I would say you know one hellava lot my friend!  Good call :-*

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