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serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Artiste on June 13, 2008, 10:51:54 pm ---Atz and to others, why do most persons do NOT care about those scenes ??

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--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on June 14, 2008, 08:41:31 am ---I don't think that most people don't care about them; they're obviously very important.
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There's one guy on imdb who's always ranting at people who express any sympathy toward Alma or Lureen. What about POOR EARL?? How come nobody ever feels sorry for POOR EARL?? Alma's life turned out all right, but POOR EARL was tortured and killed. The implication being that the Alma-sympathizer (usually straight) is so homophobic as to not care at all about horrific hate crimes.

He's kind of the flip side of the "that's just their society" rationalizer Marge mentioned.

I don't shed any tears for Alma, myself. But the real reason people express more sympathy toward her, of course, is that we get to know her as a character. Whereas Earl we see only as a corpse. His death is obviously much more horrifying than anything that happens to Alma or Lureen or Cassie or even Ennis. But that's the primary emotion it elicits -- horror, more than sadness.


Shakesthecoffecan:

--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on June 14, 2008, 10:23:07 am ---
I don't shed any tears for Alma, myself. But the real reason people express more sympathy toward her, of course, is that we get to know her as a character. Whereas Earl we see only as a corpse. His death is obviously much more horrifying than anything that happens to Alma or Lureen or Cassie or even Ennis. But that's the primary emotion it elicits -- horror, more than sadness.


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I am going to sneakily put in a plug for my all time favorite fan fic relating to the Brokeback story, it is on Live Journal, called "Roots" by 271 Horses. It is the story of Earl and Rich, their backgrounds, how they met, their life together, and also about the town of Sage, the families that made it up, including the Del Mar's. It is a fine piece of writing and stands on its own.

Artiste:
Merci seriouscrayons !

You say about Earl:     But that's the primary emotion it elicits -- horror, more than sadness.

        
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Seriouscrayons and to others: it does seems that too many persons do NOT care anymore about horror, such murders as Earl's!

A gay guy was murdered in a bar that used to be a big chain grocery store, and when one of the two murderers the jury found him not guilty, there was no outcry; does that show that many or all on that jury does not care about that gay man' sl ife ?? That seems so to me! The two murderers were working at that bar and had stolen money from it, and they thought that the gay man who was the janitor, knew somehow like that it was them, so they knived him all over the many tables ! The one the jury believed and let go free, he could have ran to the police station was only less than 500 feet away to save that gay guy, but he did not! And the police detectives did not even care neither, because the blood trail which was even many blocks on the sidewalk was not followed, and they could not careless neither to check with the taxis since the murderers had taken one! Plus, the public went there as customers in loads now, because of the murder !! Shame ! Many people do not care if a gay man was murdered, unfortunately ! This is  true case, that I know about !

Did they, cops or others, ever found more about Earl's murder, I doubt it since even Ennis' father does not seem to care ? Too many people now love horror and are pleased with it; shamefull !

What do you and others think about gay murders ?

Au revoir,
hugs!

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Artiste on June 14, 2008, 11:28:26 am ---What do you and others think about gay murders ?
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Artiste, I can't imagine that anybody on this website would not be concerned about and horrified by gay murders.


--- Quote from: injest on June 14, 2008, 11:42:47 am ---Not too long ago, a group of teenagers tortured one of their group, set her on fire and threw her into a ravine...it wastn' high enough to kill her outright so they went down and got her and threw her off repeatedly then left her. She wasnt' dead....just badly injured...she tried to crawl out and over the course of several days various teenagers drove out to look at her. Eventually someone cut her throat. No one callled the police. 
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Wow, Jess. What a horrible story. I didn't hear anything about it. Was this near where you live? How long ago?


Artiste:
Merci seriouscrayons !

You say:      Artiste, I can't imagine that anybody on this website would not be concerned about and horrified by gay murders.

      
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Seriouscrayons: may I say that I can, since at Heath death, I was blamed for no excuse, and by many on Betterrmost !! And Heath was straight, known as that! So, at a gay man's death, some members on here would NOT care at all - I think and hope and pray that I am wrong !!

Many did not even want me to use the word murderers nor gay  !!

Does that tell you something ?  I present hard facts, difficult subjects as you have noted, and I know that many do not care about them !!  Maybe I and others have made progress, some, on many dire subjects such as gay murders and bashing of  gays on here ??

At least, you are now talking about it, which was a subject no one responded to me about it before when I tried !! ?? Right ? I was told to shut up!

Au revoir,
hugs!

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