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Exactly WHEN does Jack decide.. th 1st tent scene..is gonna be th 1s tent scene?

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slayers_creek_oth:

--- Quote from: Ellemeno on April 25, 2006, 02:33:49 am ---Hi Friends,

It is Ennis who announces he's not going up to the sheep, but staying in camp til first light (letting Jack know how long he has to make his move).  He doesn't have the courage to go into the tent at first, but he has enough courage that night to make himself available out there by the fire.  BTW, one of my favorite moments of the movie is that groan of Ennis's as he lies down on the ground.  And then he says something like, "Oh yeah, that's good," when Jack puts the blanket on him.  It's a pretty uninhibited thing for Ennis to say.

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I respectfully disagree with this.....IMO neither Jack nor Ennis (especially Ennis) had no agenda that night other then to get some sleep.....one thing led to another and so on and so forth...

I think that they were both very much in love with one another but didn't realize it again JMO...

I don't even think there is a right or wrong answer....like Heath says "It presents more questions then it does answers."...thats the beautiful thing about it...

vkm91941:

--- Quote ---It is Ennis who announces he's not going up to the sheep, but staying in camp til first light (letting Jack know how long he has to make his move).  He doesn't have the courage to go into the tent at first, but he has enough courage that night to make himself available out there by the fire.  BTW, one of my favorite moments of the movie is that groan of Ennis's as he lies down on the ground.  And then he says something like, "Oh yeah, that's good," when Jack puts the blanket on him.  It's a pretty uninhibited thing for Ennis to say.
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I'm having another of those twilight zone moments where I am certain we didn't watch the same movie....I didn't see any of this premediation and mechinations that ya'all are talkin about in either the story which I've read dozens of times or the film that I watch almost as many.  Hmmmm maybe our life experience really does color our perceptions in this instance...mine must be alot purer than I thought because I see none of the predatory behaviors in Jack that are described or the sexually passive agressive ones being attributed to Ennis. Hmmm more food for thought.

slayers_creek_oth:

--- Quote from: vkm91941 on April 25, 2006, 01:44:11 pm ---
--- Quote ---It is Ennis who announces he's not going up to the sheep, but staying in camp til first light (letting Jack know how long he has to make his move).  He doesn't have the courage to go into the tent at first, but he has enough courage that night to make himself available out there by the fire.  BTW, one of my favorite moments of the movie is that groan of Ennis's as he lies down on the ground.  And then he says something like, "Oh yeah, that's good," when Jack puts the blanket on him.  It's a pretty uninhibited thing for Ennis to say.
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I'm having another of those twilight zone moments where I am certain we didn't watch the same movie....I didn't see any of this premediation and mechinations that ya'all are talkin about in either the story which I've read dozens of times or the film that I watch almost as many.  Hmmmm maybe our life experience really does color our perceptions in this instance...mine must be alot purer than I thought because I see none of the predatory behaviors in Jack that are described or the sexually passive agressive ones being attributed to Ennis. Hmmm more food for thought.

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Agreed...

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: vkm91941 on April 25, 2006, 01:44:11 pm ---Hmmmm maybe our life experience really does color our perceptions in this instance...mine must be alot purer than I thought because I see none of the predatory behaviors in Jack that are described or the sexually passive agressive ones being attributed to Ennis. Hmmm more food for thought.

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Me, I don't think of Ennis as consciously trying to initiate anything (aside from maybe being more open to Jack's overtures than he realizes).

I do see Jack consciously trying to initiate something, though -- in fact, he does! However, I'd hardly call hitting on someone you're really attracted to "predatory." If so, I'm in trouble and so are a lot of other people I know ...

YaadPyar:

--- Quote from: slayers_creek_oth on April 25, 2006, 01:40:50 pm ---
I respectfully disagree with this.....IMO neither Jack nor Ennis (especially Ennis) had no agenda that night other then to get some sleep.....one thing led to another and so on and so forth...

I think that they were both very much in love with one another but didn't realize it again.


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I'm totally in agreement with Chris on this one.  No agenda, just some wonderfully good feelings that intesify the more they are together, the closer they get, and Jack always taking risks, even when the odds were against him.

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