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Offline littleguitar

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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2006, 07:56:46 pm »
Quote from: mvansand76 on November 16, 2006, 03:26:30 pm
I'm really wondering if I will be able to find any sympathy for your Jack, especially since now we got a taste of how he treats people and because he tried to justify what had happened by saying that he never actually killed anybody himself. But, that really makes your story very interesting. He really is a very flawed and wounded character. Wonderful dialogue and character development!

I agree that that is what makes this story so interesting. I am fascinated by this version of Jack, he is really very different from anything we've seen before I think, like you said, he's "wounded" as I think most fan fic Jack's are, but this one is wounded in a very different way that I can't quite put my finger on yet. I find myself really drawn by his desire to live life on the sea and I'm curious to see what drove him to pick this particular way of doing that. I think he feels very very guilty about everything he's done that has put him in this place and he was more trying to justify the killing to himself by saying that than to anyone else because all of the killing is not sitting right with him any more, if it ever did.

I'm really loving this story. I wasn't at all into the idea when I first heard about it but it very quickly became one of my favorites. I often find myself driving home from work wishing there would be an update when I got home  :)
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2006, 11:35:34 pm »
mvns76 said, "I'm really wondering if i will be able to find any  sympathy for your Jack." But then decided that the story was interesdting after all. What's not to understand?
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2006, 03:42:26 am »
Quote from: twistedude on November 20, 2006, 11:35:34 pm
mvns76 said, "I'm really wondering if i will be able to find any  sympathy for your Jack." But then decided that the story was interesdting after all. What's not to understand?

Oh gee, I don't know... I read what Melissa posted 5 or 6 different times and I don't see anything wrong with it. It sounds like you are being a little nit picky.

I've watched you do this before. But this time you pushed the wrong button and I just need to say something about it.   >:(

You know what? Most of the time I can't  make any sense of your messages, and of the few times I can they don't sound very nice. You shouldn't attack people like this.

I really am a very kind person..... but I don't feel very nice right now.

You "MA'AM"  have the honors of being the first person to go on my ignore list.   

You need to learn how to be nicer to people.    >:( >:( >:(   
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2006, 04:30:57 am »
I'm very sorry if i sounded nasty--I just meant that it takes all kinds, even to love. I'm sorry thaI I'm on your ignore list; you are not on mine. Nobody's on  mine, nor ever will be.

I really don't think I deserved your comment,. and don't think I am nasty most of the time, or even hardly ever.

You certainly hurt MY feelings, if that's what you were trying to do...
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2006, 05:45:10 am »
I just don't think my post was reason for such a reply, Twistedude, I was just voicing my opinion of the story. It is possible to not find a character in a story likeable, but still find that that makes the story interesting! Is it wrong for me not to have killers as friends? I don't know why you wrote that and I just don't know where that came from. Maybe you didn't mean it as an attack, but it did 'sound' like one.
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2006, 06:11:31 am »
I'm really sorry if you felt it as an attck, mevens-- I not onlky didn't mean to attack you personally, but didn't even mean to attack what you had said. I just disagreed with it. In any case, I am very unhappy that anyone took it as an attack on anyone, and apologize for it.
It is terrible to be the victim oif assault, for robbery or any other reason; reading about a pirate is for me a different matter.

No, it is certainly not wrong for you not to have killers as friends...it's probably very strange of me.
The killer I mentioned was saved from execution by the greatest lawyer in the country, built the libraries in the two prisons he was in from scratch, taught courses, for which fellow-prisoners eventuallty received credit, ands volunteered for the maleria experiments (before they found a cure). He was releassed from prison after about 40 yerars, moved to South America, married a nurse, and lived quietly until his death ten years later. (Both my parents wre in school with him at the University of Chicago).

Not all people who do bad things undergo such transformations, of course. My husband and I used to know a man who killed another because the the other had broken his jaw. Hardly an excuse. yet we couldn't help liking him, because he was--such a nice guy.

I think we should all remember that Jack is changing, and will nevertheless be punished, one way or the other.

I imagine I sounded---flip. That's my usual sin.

Sorry. As fr YOU, David, speaking of attacks! Whew! (Of course, yoiu can;'t read this...) I wonder on what occasions I have "done this several times"? Sure you don't have me mixed up with the Marquis de Sade?
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2006, 07:44:19 am »
I am not going to go back and ask people to modify their posts, but I am going to ask all of you to bring your personal concerns about what you meant and how your feelings were or were not hurt, to private message and not to continue in this vein on this thread.

The thread is a discussion of the story "To Be Alone with You" - if you wish to discuss how you offended one another (or not) please do this in private message.

Note:   It is acceptable, and at times recommended, to use the Private Message ignore list function, and the Forum Ignore function.  Ignoring users whose posts you do not wish to see, is a feature of the Bettermost Forum to allow people to not have to read what others write if they do not want to.  Please consider using this option if you are discomfited by messages posted by your fellow members.  Personal attacks are NOT permitted on Bettermost.  Please observe this rule.

And if someone doesn't want to talk to you - please take that as a broad hint that it might be a good idea to stop talking to them.

From this point onward, any discussion of users attacking one another or offending one another will be modified or deleted as necessary.  You have been advised.
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2006, 05:47:14 pm »
Yes, Captain. Understood.
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2006, 03:25:41 am »
Wow.  I missed alot.  Hmmm...

Anyway.  I hope to have chapter 5 of TBAWY up by tomorrow.  The word is, hope...

We'll see.  Thanks for all you who've been reading!
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Re: To Be Alone With You by Marakeshsparrow
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2006, 03:46:29 am »
Yeah, you missed the fireworks with everyone else on the side of politeness, respect, law and order, and me with the outlaws, rustlers, thieves, murderers,  and being an insfferable insulting bitch (I guess)...oh well, Nobody's Perfect...

hey--guess you didn't like ..NEVER MIND. Geheimness (ask Sheera, she doesn't speak German either--like me.).

Tommorow, tomorrow, when will it be here..as me sainted grandma used to say...
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