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As Easter nears, no Easter in Annie's story or the BM movie?? But??

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Front-Ranger:
Back to Jack being a bullrider, here is a picture of one of the original bullriders, or more accurately bull leapers, of ancient Crete!!






--- Quote from: Artiste on March 19, 2008, 11:06:30 pm ---What I find a bit stange  is more than that too! Mr. Twist knows about Ennis before Ennis comes because Jack had told him things, maybe? What is this relationship, friendship, rapport directly told to HIM by Jack, and/or to Mrs. Twist who mentioned it to old man Twist? Any clues there?

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I found that strange too, Artiste, that Jack would tell OMT all about Ennis, rather naive and strange. It is strange to see how children of abusive parents destroy their lives in the vain search for approval from them, even long after they are dead!! So strange and saddening. Another thing I noticed is that Jack didn't talk much about his mother even though she is obviously devoted and loving. He said to Ennis as they were about to part, "Guess I'll go up and give my Daddy a hand through the winter," and when he was drunk he had a tendency to talk about daddy. Always daddy and "my old man." I guess it's just human nature. There again are parallels to the Bible. Jesus was one who was always talking about his Daddy, even though his Father doomed him to die a horrible cruel death!!

Artiste:
Thanks very much Front-Ranger!

Your post sure is instructive!

Yes, why did Jack NOT mention his mother... thought to be Mrs. Twist!!  ??

So, you really think that Jack was abused as a child? By which person(s) ??

Annie must have studied what in order to create the Jack charactor, as abused child?

Did Annie also prefered to ad Ennis as abused too? As a child? Or she accentuated maybe more after his decending the BM with Jack??

Is Annie trying to colour Ennis also as Christ ??

The pentacost, yes Pentacost as an aim, is for both: Ennis as well as for Jack, for Annie??

[Pentacost /i], is Easter here??

Pentacost is consolation for Ennis who survives so far??

But consolation is not for Jack since he was more open as a gay man, showing his orientation to the public?

Front-Ranger and to all too: Easter thoughts and wishes to you, your family and friends,

hugs!! Thanks for that pic too!!

delalluvia:

--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on March 20, 2008, 04:16:19 pm ---Back to Jack being a bullrider, here is a picture of one of the original bullriders, or more accurately bull leapers, of ancient Crete!!


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One of my fav pics.  But I'm not sure how Jack as a bull rider is anywhere near equivalent to Jesus riding on a donkey (If a "colt' was 'unbroken', Jesus wouldn't have been riding it).

Artiste:
Thanks delalluvia!

Why a colt is the same or not for Jack as it was for Jesus??

Do you see the BM film like an Easter story in a way?

Hugs! Happy Holy Friday!

Front-Ranger:

--- Quote from: delalluvia on March 20, 2008, 08:32:49 pm ---One of my fav pics.  But I'm not sure how Jack as a bull rider is anywhere near equivalent to Jesus riding on a donkey (If a "colt' was 'unbroken', Jesus wouldn't have been riding it).

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All I can say is to recount the conversation, della. I said to Annie Proulx: "You made Jack a bullrider, What about the myth of the bullrider that stretches back to the bull leapers of ancient Crete?" She was nodding her head and then she answered, "I expect the reader to bring this information to the story, because there just isn't time (I think she meant room) to talk about all of it. For instance..." and then she went into the story about Christ riding on the unbroken colt. I think that was one of His many miracles, instantly taming a colt, or low-startle-point filly, if you will...

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