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The Dark Knight: News, Reviews, your Views. "SPOILERS" welcome!
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: DavidInIndy on July 27, 2008, 08:01:35 pm ---WOW!! Thanks Amanda for taking the time to explain it to me. I appreciate it! :)
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Thanks David. :-* My knowledge of Batman is pretty shaky on a lot of questions, but that one aspect... that Batman is one of the "darkest" of the major superheroes seems to be at the core of a lot of the stories surrounding him.
In this film, you'll see a lot of characters get really angry at him. But, then, also he's always really trying to protect Gotham and innocent citizens, and often they recognize this too. So, it's really complicated. And, his standing in the community really seems to shift around depending on the circumstance.
Another real Spoiler***
An example of some questionnable decisions Batman makes in this film... during one encounter with the Joker, it's made clear that Batman has not acted while 5 (I think it's 5) people die at the hands of the Joker because he refuses to take off his mask and show everyone his identity (something the Joker... and much of Gotham City... is keen to see happen).
Gabreya:
Hello, everyone. It's Gabreya. I'm terribly, terribly sorry that I haven't been around during this summer and I've been feeling guilty about it. It's just that I was busy over the summer and something on the computer had a virus that we had to renew everything we had. We've already taken care of that, though. But, I can't tell you guys how much I missed being around here. :( I mean, all of you have been great to me and eachother. I tell ya'. I'd never seen a website where there are so many nice and peaceful people here. And I mean that. :) Will, you guys ever forgive me?
Last week, I went to see "The Dark Knight" and I thought that it was really good. I thought Heath was great as the Joker. He made this Joker frightening yet funny at the same time. Plus, I actually thought that the Joker was likeable. I mean, yes, he's the bad guy but still. He was cool. I waited impatiently for the next scene he was in. I knew that he would do very well in his role as always. But, I couldn't help but to feel a sad everytime I think of what that role did to him. It's just that that role SHOULD NOT have sent his mind in a whirlwind. If it was going to do that to him, he shouldn't have taken the role in the first place. The problems he was having like sleeping, staying still, feeling sick, and all that stuff was just bothering him so that he couldn't handle it any longer. I think he was better off NOT being in this movie. :( But, I still enjoyed the movie. Yeah, I've seen other good superhero movies like "Iron Man" and "The Incredible Hulk" this summer as well. And this movie is no exception. It was awesome. But, it's bittersweet because it wasn't just Heath that made this film really dark, it was other stuff surrounding the fact that others had passed away to make this movie great. :'( They, too, will be forever missed.
I love you, Heath.
Fran:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on July 26, 2008, 01:22:13 pm ---Our reactions all seem to be so varied and personal, and IMO all valid and deserving of respect. My own reaction, in watching Heath's performance, was just the opposite. It was so full of energy, such flawless timing and so perfectly matched the script's treatment of the Joker -- and, IMO, Heath seemed to be having such a great time doing it, stressful as it might have been -- that I kept thinking 'oh Heath... bravo!'
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Well said, Marge. You've summed up my reaction to seeing Heath as the Joker perfectly.
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on July 26, 2008, 01:22:13 pm ---IMO, if they make another Batman flick they'll need to write the Joker out: that performance would be an impossible act to follow.
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But it would be cool if Batman (or some other character) made some kind of reference to the Joker, even if it's just a passing comment. It would be a nice reminder of Heath's excellent portrayal of the Joker in "The Dark Knight."
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: Gabreya on July 27, 2008, 10:43:42 pm ---Hello, everyone. It's Gabreya. I'm terribly, terribly sorry that I haven't been around during this summer and I've been feeling guilty about it. It's just that I was busy over the summer and something on the computer had a virus that we had to renew everything we had. We've already taken care of that, though. But, I can't tell you guys how much I missed being around here. :( I mean, all of you have been great to me and eachother. I tell ya'. I'd never seen a website where there are so many nice and peaceful people here. And I mean that. :) Will, you guys ever forgive me?
Last week, I went to see "The Dark Knight" and I thought that it was really good. I thought Heath was great as the Joker. He made this Joker frightening yet funny at the same time. Plus, I actually thought that the Joker was likeable. I mean, yes, he's the bad guy but still. He was cool. I waited impatiently for the next scene he was in. I knew that he would do very well in his role as always. But, I couldn't help but to feel a sad everytime I think of what that role did to him. It's just that that role SHOULD NOT have sent his mind in a whirlwind. If it was going to do that to him, he shouldn't have taken the role in the first place. The problems he was having like sleeping, staying still, feeling sick, and all that stuff was just bothering him so that he couldn't handle it any longer. I think he was better off NOT being in this movie. :( But, I still enjoyed the movie. Yeah, I've seen other good superhero movies like "Iron Man" and "The Incredible Hulk" this summer as well. And this movie is no exception. It was awesome. But, it's bittersweet because it wasn't just Heath that made this film really dark, it was other stuff surrounding the fact that others had passed away to make this movie great. :'( They, too, will be forever missed.
I love you, Heath.
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Oh no, you suffered from a computer virus too? I had one last week as well, and I had to renew EVERYTHING on it. It was pitiful. Well, we're glad you are up and running again, and I'm happy you enjoyed the TDK movie! :)
Gabreya:
--- Quote from: atz75 on July 25, 2008, 10:13:01 am ---I'm going to go see TDK again this weekend before I post any kind of extensive review here. So much goes on in that movie, I really do think that a second viewing will be important to noticing details and to taking in the dialogue more accurately.
My initial reaction was really positive. I thought it was a fabulous movie and it was definitely thought provoking in all kinds of ways.
Forgive me if this detail is discussed elsewhere in this thread... but I just need to comment on the one scene where the Joker is in the body bag, they unzip it and then he sits up to surprise everyone. Yikes!! That scene just about killed me... specifically with Heath's real life tragedy in mind. It's just too, too terrible in juxtaposition with the news clips of Heath being taken out of the apartment. That scene has already given me a nightmare. One some level I'm almost surprised they left it in. It's really effective as a scene... but still, it's just so surreal!
:'(
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Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. :'( My heart just ached at that moment.
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