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Do you consider yourself a feminist? (A question for both women and men.)
delalluvia:
It's been a long time since I've seen the movie, but as I recall, wasn't the only man Thelma ever killed was a would be rapist, only held back at gunpoint?
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: louisev on March 16, 2009, 05:30:54 pm ---er, no. Health care benefits are not available to anyone in need in the USA. Health care is available ONLY on an emergency basis to indigent (i.e. penniless) persons ONLY at public hospitals, in the case of critical need. Not at doctor's offices. Not at dentist's offices, and not at private hospitals. So the BEST that could be said is that for the poor, and the uninsured without funds, only limited emergency care is available. To say that a person without health insurance and without money can walk into a doctor's office and receive care in the USA - is out of touch.
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Yep. If you're a single person, with no job, no income, not pregnant (I and another female friend of mine were college students) and needing specialized medical care, you can go jump off a bridge as far as government health care is concerned. You don't qualify for any medical care.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on March 16, 2009, 07:50:37 pm ---Ever heard of the ER? Most universities have student infirmaries. I do not know what you mean by "specialized" medical care, but even if one is insured, one is not guaranteed "special" procedures.
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Yes, I have head of them. The university medical staff is who recommended I see a neurologist because my painful nerve disorder was not something they had the facilities to test for, diagnose and treat.
That's where my medical treatment stopped.
My friend had to have a stone removed. The university hospital couldn't treat that either.
--- Quote ---IE, a single person, if not a student, is supposed to get a job and buy insurance either directly or via his/her employer. Can we spell "responsibility"?
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Yep. However, I wasn't employed. Hence, full-time college student. And also you do realize there is a waiting period for insurance when you first get employed *and* insurance companies are pretty chintzy about not insuring pre-existing conditions.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on March 16, 2009, 07:50:37 pm ---IE, a single person, if not a student, is supposed to get a job and buy insurance either directly or via his/her employer. Can we spell "responsibility"?
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Can we spell "8.1 percent unemployment"?
mariez:
--- Quote from: louisev on March 16, 2009, 05:53:36 pm --- I was baffled into silence as to why a women's rights organization would ever see Thelma and Louise from the eponymous film as some sort of heroines of the feminist movement. They were KILLERS for Chrissakes. I walked away from the NOW recruitment table and have stayed away from them ever since.
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OMG, don't even get me started on "Thelma and Louise." I detested that movie, and was appalled and perplexed that so many people considered it a "feminist" movie. Not only did it glorify violence and vigilantism (blowing up the tanker truck was such a nice touch - ugh), there was also that repulsive scene where the Geena Davis character (I don't remember who was who) is just glowing one morning all because, as Susan Sarandon points out to her - she's finally been "f*cked good and proper" and by Brad Pitt, of course! Which, naturally, is just one of the reasons why they both believe it was all worth it and don't regret anything - right before the drive off a cliff and kill themselves. Good God. These are role models?
--- Quote from: serious crayons on March 16, 2009, 07:19:35 pm ---I don't see feminism and NOW as synonymous at all. I've always been a feminist, never belonged to NOW.
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I've never been a member of NOW either, and I also don't see them as synonymous with feminism. Throughout the years I've heard many things said by women who also consider themselves feminists that I don't agree with, but, to me, that's part of being a feminist - thinking for myself and not just following any group mentality.
Marie
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