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Gay Detecting Radar
starboardlight:
I remember a scene in Victor Victoria, in which Robert Preston plays an openly gay man (quite progressive for 1982). A young woman flirting with him suddenly figures out, says, "Oh what a waste!" His response was "I assure you, nothing is wasted." I loved that response.
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: Lynne on July 23, 2006, 10:31:58 pm ---Katie,
I think that we may just have a problem of interpretation here. The females that Barb is speaking of (in my own interpretation) are the ones who, upon finding out an attractive man is gay, react with 'Oh, that's too bad.' The subtext, of course being that either 'All the good men are taken/gay' implying that otherwise 'they would have had a shot.' Again, that is only my own reading. I don't think it's necessarily homophobia as much as it is sexually objectifying males as potential partners without regard to getting to know them as people first, a subject in which most women are well-versed.
Barb - if I've completely misconstrued your intent, please let us all know.
All the best,
Lynne
BTW...I'm a big fan of Maya Angelou ;)
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Thank you, Lynne. That is exactly what I meant. We are indeed soul sisters. Sexually objectifying males as potential partners - that's precisely it. And really, I guess, why not? That's what straight men do to us, isn't it? I've just never done it myself, as I think the rest of us here probably have not. In my case, not because I think I'm better than those other straight women, but honestly, because I think I'm a little weird. Or perhaps I should give myself some credit and say "unusual"?
Sorry if what I said offended you, Katie. I understand how that happens - I've been rubbed the wrong way by things I've read here and elsewhere, too, only to find that the person didn't mean it the way it sounded. Many apologies - I should have been more clear.
silkncense:
--- Quote ---Sexually objectifying males as potential partners - that's precisely it. And really, I guess, why not? That's what straight men do to us, isn't it? I've just never done it myself, as I think the rest of us here probably have not.
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Uhhh, another disagreement Barb! I definitely sexually objectify Jake Gyllenhaal & will continue to do so. ;)
Nipith -
--- Quote --- "Oh what a waste!" His response was "I assure you, nothing is wasted." I loved that response.
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Absolutely. A great response.
Lynne:
--- Quote from: Katie77 on July 23, 2006, 10:53:37 pm ---...and I have heard of women too, who maybe think they have enough sex appeal that they can "change" a gay guy.......sheer ignorance.....
...I guess I was sticking up for the straight women, like me, and the others on this board.
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LOL Katie @ the 'sheer ignorance'. I know if I haven't managed to teach a man to put a toilet seat down or rinse toothpaste globs and razor stubble out of the sink, for instance, then changing his sexual orientation is so far outside the realm of possibility to be absurd. And good for you on the 'sticking up'. There are few enough progressive thinkers in my own real world that it's a *must-do* at every opportunity.
--- Quote from: starboardlight on July 23, 2006, 11:50:56 pm ---I remember a scene in Victor Victoria, in which Robert Preston plays an openly gay man (quite progressive for 1982). A young woman flirting with him suddenly figures out, says, "Oh what a waste!" His response was "I assure you, nothing is wasted." I loved that response.
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Love it!!! Now I've got to put another movie in my queue!!! Thanks, Nipith!!
--- Quote from: silkncense on July 24, 2006, 12:23:05 pm ---Uhhh, another disagreement Barb! I definitely sexually objectify Jake Gyllenhaal & will continue to do so. ;)
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Now, see that's ENTIRELY different - I rationalize that as complete fantasy, myself ;). But I daresay that if Jake were an awful actor or dumb as a rock or came across as a total jerk, we wouldn't be nearly as obsessed with him sexually.
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: Lynne on July 24, 2006, 12:49:27 pm ---Now, see that's ENTIRELY different - I rationalize that as complete fantasy, myself ;). But I daresay that if Jake were an awful actor or dumb as a rock or came across as a total jerk, we wouldn't be nearly as obsessed with him sexually.
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BINGO! There are plenty of (almost) equally physically attractive actors out there who meet one or more of those other criteria and as such don't do a thing for me. He does everything for me because he's the entire package, the real deal, the whole nine yards... He's just got it goin' ON. All of it. All the time. Did it just get hot in here, or is that just him? ;)
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