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Gay Marriage Sinks Miss California's shot at Crown
louisev:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on April 26, 2009, 08:36:41 pm ---How do you figure? If she said the same thing about black people would you still think she wasn't being a bigot?
It's just that simple. Replace gay people with blacks or Jews or any ethnicity of your choice and let me know what you think.
No one is a bigot for honestly expressing their opinions. But their opinions can certainly make them a bigot.
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Unfortunately for gays, being intolerant of their civil rights is not yet politically incorrect. It's politically incorrect to be intolerant of blacks, since it's been 50 years since they got full civil rights enforced, but for gays it is still a battle. Hating gays and not wanting them to have full civil rights is the last acceptable bigotry in America.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: louisev on April 27, 2009, 01:44:32 pm ---Unfortunately for gays, being intolerant of their civil rights is not yet politically incorrect. It's politically incorrect to be intolerant of blacks, since it's been 50 years since they got full civil rights enforced, but for gays it is still a battle. Hating gays and not wanting them to have full civil rights is the last acceptable bigotry in America.
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Sigh.
The following letter to the editor was published in this morning's Metro (Monday, 4/27/09).
--- Quote ---Black struggle has no gay empathy.
(Via e-mail). As a black male, I'm highly disgusted and insulted by the article "Gay Marriage the Next Battle Front?" Being bumptious to convince Americans of gay marriage is very selfish. The slogan "gay is the new black" is a smack in the face to every black American. Martin Luther King, Jr., JKF, RFK and Malcolm X did not die for gay rights. You are born black no matter what, you can't be born gay because it's a volunteer conduct and it's not biologically proven. Employers discriminate against blacks in the workplace, not gays. Police brutality affects black people the most, not gay people. And to equate the fallacy of gay struggles with civil rights struggles of African-Americans ... there is no comparison and they can never feel a black person's pain.
(Signed) Tyrone Jones
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I'm not going to bother commenting. The ignorance and logical inconsistency speak for themselves.
Note: The elipsis following "African-Americans" is in the original. I didn't edit anything out of the text.
louisev:
the fact that the youth vote is strongly in favor of granting rights to GLBT and ushering out the old bigotry (Miss California notwithstanding) means that it is only a matter of time before full civil rights are granted in all states.
milomorris:
My assessment of Prejean is that her statement is not homophobic or bigoted. She has said nothing different than what ALL of the candidates said during the general election: "no same sex marriage." She did NOT say "no civil rights for sexual minorities." The part she alluded to in mentioning the handful of states--and could have clarified--was that there are alternatives to marriage. Some people here fail to realize that there are people out there, both hetero and homo who think there are other ways besides marriage for sexual minorities to achieve legal parity in this country.
Moreover, the current gay dogma says that if you're not for SS marriage, that means you hate us. That's just not true, and its a pretty lame stance to take. As I have said a gazillion times, we have to stop beating people over the head with the homophobe stick if we're going to make progress. Martin Luther King Jr. didn't win by running around calling white people names.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: oilgun on April 27, 2009, 01:33:28 pm ---It IS just that simple. For reasonable thinking people anyway... ;)
I just want to say how impressed I am with your amazing patience, Del. I get way too emotional dealing with the right, while reading this thread I must have started three replies that I'm sure if I had posted them, they would have been deleted and gotten me banned from the forum.
I can't believe that people are defending religious homophobia on a BbM forum. :o
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Me neither.
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