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Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Kelda on June 07, 2009, 06:25:30 pm ---But surely if the woman is made to have the baby the man then should:
a) compensate the woman for making her go through months of unwanted pregnancy.
b) compensate the woman for having to deal with the child post birth.
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Agreed. But nobody can make a woman carry a child to term. She has a choice, and is the only person who can make it. She holds the cards.
I could imagine a situation where the man pays the woman for having the baby. Kinda like the way surrogate moms work. The only problem with that is that in most cases the man has already had sex with the woman in good faith, with no expectation of payment.
Monika:
--- Quote from: Kelda on June 07, 2009, 06:25:30 pm ---But surely if the woman is made to have the baby the man then should:
a) compensate the woman for making her go through months of unwanted pregnancy.
b) compensate the woman for having to deal with the child post birth.
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Yes indeed.
The more of I've thought about this the more unrealistic it seems. There is also the risk that If a woman that doesn't want a child, knowing that an abortion could lead to paying the man large sums of money (money she possible doesn't have), that she feels even less inclined to tell the man about the pregnancy at all/or the have the pregnancy done illegally which could potentially be a threat to her health.
No. The woman is the one that carries the child. It´s her body. She is the one who puts her health in potential jeopardy. It's the woman decision, and her decision only.
Monika:
--- Quote from: milomorris on June 08, 2009, 12:08:07 am ---
Riiiiiight. And people use the company cell phone only for business calls. In spirit I agree. In practice, things are quite different.
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I doubt you know much about what it´s like to raise a child on your own, Milo. Or what it costs. I know a few single mothers and they have a very hard time to get by, even with financial aid from the father. It´s quite insulting to imply that they are living in some kind of luxury. Raising a child is expensive.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Buffymon on June 08, 2009, 02:04:12 am ---I doubt you know much about what it´s like to raise a child on your own, Milo.
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Not much. I have no children, and don't want any. I know plenty about being a child raised by a single parent. ANd I've seen my aunt and my sister raise their kids. So I'm not blind to the situation.
quote author=Buffymon link=topic=36493.msg520023#msg520023 date=1244441052]
It´s quite insulting to imply that they are living in some kind of luxury. Raising a child is expensive.
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I NEVER implied that and I think it would be best if you would read what I write rather than plugging in your own assumptions about what I'm thinking.
And yes, raising a child is expensive. That's why women who want to keep their illegitimate children should think long and hard about that choice, especially if they know in advance that the father is not willing to participate.
Monika:
--- Quote from: milomorris on June 08, 2009, 08:09:56 am ---Not much. I have no children, and don't want any. I know plenty about being a child raised by a single parent. ANd I've seen my aunt and my sister raise their kids. So I'm not blind to the situation.
quote author=Buffymon link=topic=36493.msg520023#msg520023 date=1244441052]
It´s quite insulting to imply that they are living in some kind of luxury. Raising a child is expensive.
I NEVER implied that and I think it would be best if you would read what I write rather than plugging in your own assumptions about what I'm thinking.
And yes, raising a child is expensive. That's why women who want to keep their illegitimate children should think long and hard about that choice, especially if they know in advance that the father is not willing to participate.
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I did read the post, Milo. Perhaps I misunderstood it. This was what I read and responded to
"Riiiiiight. And people use the company cell phone only for business calls. In spirit I agree. In practice, things are quite different."
which was your reply to Delalluvia saying: "Child support isn't about funding a mother's lifestyle, it's about supporting a child."
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