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Hey Congress! Focus on Jobs, Not on Us!
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Scare-Ranger on October 20, 2011, 04:12:58 pm ---May I interrupt here?
The Hill publication wrote a story yesterday saying, “Groups opposed to abortion rights are pressuring the Senate to act on a bill passed by the House last week that would prohibit health insurers from offering abortion coverage if any of their customers receives federal subsidies.”
"...the House-passed bill would make it nearly impossible for women to exercise their legal right to an abortion. The legislation would place "unprecedented restrictions on how a woman with private insurance can spend her own private dollars in purchasing health insurance," according to Rep. Barbara Lee
Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.), chairman of the Energy and Commerce oversight panel is investigating Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider. Stearns last month wrote to Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards asking her to provide documents demonstrating that her organization is handling its federal funding properly.
"At a time in our country when women rely on Planned Parenthood more than ever for essential health care, this invasive and baseless investigation is all the more reprehensible, and is an abuse of your oversight responsibilities," a responding letter states. "We urge you to immediately cease this investigation ... [It] amounts to no more than a witch hunt, and is a waste of resources at a time when the American people have asked that Congress come together and focus on job creation and economic growth."
My thoughts exactly.
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Well, since this thread started out with a pretty broad statement, I thought the OP was referring to the Title X subsidies. I had no idea that there is pending legislation that would effect private insurance companies. I don't agree that government should be involved on this kind of micro-level.
What I will say is that Planned Parenthood should be investigated for misappropriation if there is probable cause.
Front-Ranger:
--- Quote from: milomorris on October 20, 2011, 04:23:32 pm ---Well, since this thread started out with a pretty broad statement, I thought the OP was referring to the Title X subsidies. I had no idea that there is pending legislation that would effect private insurance companies. I don't agree that government should be involved on this kind of micro-level.
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The do-nothings in Congress are using the strategy called "Death by a Thousand Cuts" to effectively render abortions illegal and drive poor women back to the black market dens and desperate strategies of my youth. Knitting needles, drinking quinine, etc.
--- Quote from: milomorris on October 20, 2011, 04:23:32 pm ---What I will say is that Planned Parenthood should be investigated for misappropriation if there is probable cause.
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I agree with you...but there is no probable cause!! Believe me, it's like testing Lance Armstrong for drugs...he's been tested thousands of times and they haven't come up with zip! And PP has been investigated near to death!!
milomorris:
--- Quote from: Scare-Ranger on October 20, 2011, 05:29:58 pm ---The do-nothings in Congress are using the strategy called "Death by a Thousand Cuts" to effectively render abortions illegal and drive poor women back to the black market dens and desperate strategies of my youth. Knitting needles, drinking quinine, etc.
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That's a leftist scare tactic. There are people who want abortion banned, but nobody want to see that again.
--- Quote from: Scare-Ranger on October 20, 2011, 05:29:58 pm ---I agree with you...but there is no probable cause!!
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We'll see.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Scare-Ranger on October 20, 2011, 05:29:58 pm ---to effectively render abortions illegal and drive poor women back to the black market dens and desperate strategies of my youth. Knitting needles, drinking quinine, etc.
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--- Quote from: milomorris on October 20, 2011, 05:44:09 pm ---That's a leftist scare tactic. There are people who want abortion banned, but nobody want to see that again.
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Wait, what? "Leftist scare tactic"??
Oh, maybe you're saying that there's nobody literally declaring, "I want abortion outlawed -- let 'em use coat hangers." In which case, you're probably right (though my "everything under the sun" philosophy states that there are probably even people saying that).
But if there's anyone who "wants abortion banned" but doesn't "want to see that again" -- "that" being women using desperate, dangerous and potentially fatal measures to terminate pregnancies -- they're either pathetically uninformed, incredibly ignorant about human nature, or able to abide with an astounding level of cognitive dissonance.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on October 21, 2011, 01:08:13 am ---Wait, what? "Leftist scare tactic"??
Oh, maybe you're saying that there's nobody literally declaring, "I want abortion outlawed -- let 'em use coat hangers." In which case, you're probably right (though my "everything under the sun" philosophy states that there are probably even people saying that).
But if there's anyone who "wants abortion banned" but doesn't "want to see that again" -- "that" being women using desperate, dangerous and potentially fatal measures to terminate pregnancies -- they're either pathetically uninformed, incredibly ignorant about human nature, or able to abide with an astounding level of cognitive dissonance.
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What I'm saying is that the people who want abortion banned don't want the coat hangers either. Whatever you might think of them, they have no malicious intent. They think there is a way to craft a society where neither of those two evils exist.
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