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Title: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on January 03, 2010, 08:42:59 pm
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Forget New Year's resolutions, this is for real.  For any BetterMostian who would like to join, we are starting a weight loss thread.  A place to post your goals, and share your tips on healthy weight loss.  

You don't have to post your weight, but you may post your weight loss goal (kilos or pounds? you choose).  

We can discuss techniques and problems here.  We can post our progress from time to time as well.  I'm open to any ideas folks have.  What are your motivations?  Better health?  Better to fit into clothes?

Below is everyone's goal in blue, starting approx. January 4.  We'll weigh in monthly with a + or - , with (#) total change.

First update is February 1.
Second update is Monday, March 1.
Third update it Monday, April 5.
Fourth update is Monday, May 3.
Fifth update is Monday, June 7
Followed by +/-total change.
  

Paul:  30 pounds.  -6 -4 -5 -7-8 (-30!)

Eric: 20 pounds.

Lee: 10 pounds. -3.5 -1.5 -3 (-8)

Amanda: 10 pounds.

Chuck:  45 pounds. (-24)


min:  a few.

Clarissa:  40 pounds.
 
Dev:  30 pounds.

Monika:  40 pounds.

Fran:  10 pounds.

Sonja:  20 kilograms. -1.5kg 0 0 (-1.5kg)

Katherine:  20 pounds. -3

Lynne:  50 pounds. -5 0 (-5)

Marie:  60 pounds. -2

Kelda:  2 stone, 12/40 pounds. -1-1 -2

Fabienne:  20 pounds. -3

Rich:  40 pounds.

Ronny:  50 pounds.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: SFEnnisSF on January 03, 2010, 08:48:51 pm
Goal: 20 lbs.  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 03, 2010, 08:53:59 pm
Goal: 20 lbs.  :)

Great!  Thanks for joining.  I'll add you to the list. 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 03, 2010, 09:47:39 pm
I'll be your cheerleader! No, actually, I would like to lose some weight too. I don't want to haul all this up Mt. Washington! I would like to lose at least 10 pounds. So, Paul, I hope I will still be able to reccanize you! And, Eric, you'll still be a loveable bear, just a svelte one, right?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 03, 2010, 10:07:01 pm
I'll be your cheerleader! No, actually, I would like to lose some weight too. I don't want to haul all this up Mt. Washington! I would like to lose at least 10 pounds. So, Paul, I hope I will still be able to reccanize you! And, Eric, you'll still be a loveable bear, just a svelte one, right?

Thanks, Lee.  Funny you should mention Mt. Washington.  After hauling my own ass up Moose Mountain in Alberta, and huffing and puffing all the way, I said to myself, I gotta lose!

Shall I put you on the list for 10?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 03, 2010, 10:18:40 pm
Go ahead and put me on the list! Yee-haw!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 03, 2010, 10:24:23 pm

I have a 10 lb. goal at the moment.  You can add me to the list. :)

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 03, 2010, 10:31:16 pm
I have a 10 lb. goal at the moment.  You can add me to the list. :)

Power in numbers!

Go ahead and put me on the list! Yee-haw!

Yee-haw!  Thanks, cheerleader.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 03, 2010, 10:37:10 pm
Hiya Big Brother Paul!

You can add me to the list!  I'm not shy, I'll give figures.

I currently weigh 230lbs. I want to lose 45 pounds, and get down to 185lbs.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 03, 2010, 10:39:56 pm
Hiya Big Brother Paul!

You can add me to the list!  I'm not shy, I'll give figures.

I currently weigh 225lbs. I want to lose 40 pounds, and get down to 185lbs.

I might call you many things, Chuck, but shy ain't one of them!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 03, 2010, 10:47:10 pm
There's also a Get Fit and Lose Weight (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13699.0/all.html) thread, with some good advice, particularly an inspiring post by MountainMan at http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13699.msg350390.html#msg350390 (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13699.msg350390.html#msg350390).
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 03, 2010, 10:51:21 pm
I might call you many things, Chuck, but shy ain't one of them!

and just what do you call me, Paul?

;)   :laugh: :-*
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: min on January 03, 2010, 11:30:07 pm
Could I be added to the list please?  I only need to lose a few pounds but at least I'd fit more comfortably into my clothes again.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Ellemeno on January 04, 2010, 03:21:16 am
40.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on January 04, 2010, 04:19:38 am
Hey Cousin Paul.   Please put me down for the ever elusive 30lbs. 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 04, 2010, 06:57:53 am
Although we all are very reluctant to admit it, exercise is the key component missing here.

So let's do this!



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and don't forget to stay hydrated!

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and definitely do less of this:


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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 04, 2010, 07:50:30 am
There's also a Get Fit and Lose Weight (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13699.0/all.html) thread, with some good advice, particularly an inspiring post by MountainMan at http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13699.msg350390.html#msg350390 (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13699.msg350390.html#msg350390).

Thank, Lee, great resource.  

and just what do you call me, Paul?

;)   :laugh: :-*

um, "Little Brother", of course.  :)

Could I be added to the list please?  I only need to lose a few pounds but at least I'd fit more comfortably into my clothes again.

You're in!

40.

Gotcha.

Hey Cousin Paul.   Please put me down for the ever elusive 30lbs.  

You bet, cuz.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 04, 2010, 07:53:53 am
Good morning, Brokies! 

I did my own official weigh-in today, and am ready to get started.  It's great we can support one another here. 

It's good to review the laws of thermodynamics:  "eat less, move more".  How each of us does that is up to us.  Let's share ideas.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Monika on January 04, 2010, 10:10:35 am
put me down for 40. I feel very inspired by Lee´s trips, and would like to hike more. For that I need to get fit.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Fran on January 04, 2010, 11:20:52 am
Great idea, Paul!

Put me down for 10.  Alas, too much time sitting in front of the computer has taken its toll.    :(
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 04, 2010, 11:40:18 am
I did my own official weigh-in today, and am ready to get started.  It's great we can support one another here. 

It's good to review the laws of thermodynamics:  "eat less, move more".  How each of us does that is up to us.  Let's share ideas.


I did mine as well.

I've found that what works best for me is the eliptical machine.  I seem to lose the weight if I spend my time on this.

(http://www.ellipticals.us/elliptical-man-600.jpg)


Also, you need to spend a good amount of time exercising.  I've heard 30 minutes 3 times a week.  I believe that's to MAINTAIN your current weight.

If I want to lose weight, I have to do 5 days a week, 50 - 60 minutes of exercise.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Penthesilea on January 04, 2010, 12:29:31 pm

 I seem to lose the weight if I spend my time on this.

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This is sooo wrong, the way I shortened your quote ;) :laugh:
But I couldn't resist when you give me such a great pass ;D.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 04, 2010, 01:04:42 pm
put me down for 40. I feel very inspired by Lee´s trips, and would like to hike more. For that I need to get fit.

Yay, Monika! Plus you can also get more fit WHILE hiking, especially if you have a backpack on and/or hiking boots!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 04, 2010, 01:15:27 pm
I've found that what works best for me is the eliptical machine.  I seem to lose the weight if I spend my time on this.

(http://www.ellipticals.us/elliptical-man-600.jpg)
Also, you need to spend a good amount of time exercising.  I've heard 30 minutes 3 times a week.  I believe that's to MAINTAIN your current weight.

If I want to lose weight, I have to do 5 days a week, 50 - 60 minutes of exercise.
Penth, you is bad!!

I love the elliptical machines too, Chuck. They work out not only my lower body but also my arms, with those handles that move back and forth (Behave, Chrissi!) Plus, see those smaller handles? Grasp them to monitor your heart beat. I find I have to get my heart beat up to about 120 to start breaking a sweat. If I don't do this for at least 10-20 minutes, my workout doesn't do me any good at all...might as well skip it!!

Yes, losing weight takes time as friend Chuck pointed out. Ellipticals, swimming, running, maybe biking help you progress faster. I have never been able to lose weight by walking. It simply takes too much time and my knees start hurting before I reach the payback zone. Aqua exercising work well too...our friend LauraGigs is a testament to that! I tried to sign up for a class this morning but they were filled already. I did sign up for a women's mountainclimbing class. I've heard it's a workout, so I'm willing to try!!

When I enrolled in the Pinedale Half-Marathon, I was given a workout regimen that has been productive. I do a cardio workout every other day. At least 35 continuous minutes of running, ellipticals, dancing, etc. On the alternate days I do weight lifting, yoga, and core exercises. Okay, sometimes I do housework or gardening instead. I try to do about an hour of exersizing on these days.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 04, 2010, 01:34:50 pm
put me down for 40. I feel very inspired by Lee´s trips, and would like to hike more. For that I need to get fit.

I'm with you on the hiking thing!  I felt like Moose hiking up Moose Mountain!

Great idea, Paul!

Put me down for 10.  Alas, too much time sitting in front of the computer has taken its toll.    :(

You're in.  Good point, Fran.  Yakkin' on BetterMost ain't too good for weight loss.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 04, 2010, 01:46:07 pm
A little morale booster:  when I stood on the scale this morning to weigh in, I discovered I had lost 5 pounds during the holidays!  I'm still aiming for 30 more, however. 

It's nice to see so many folks joining in, with different goals. 

I figure we can keep in touch here.  Feel free to make suggestions (thanks, Chuck and Lee).  Has something worked for you in the past?  Or not worked?  I'll try to add or ask for a tip every day or so, regarding eating and exercise. 

Here's today's tip:  don't weigh yourself every day! 

We're not looking for day-to-day progress, rather slow and steady change over time.  Daily weights will just get you discouraged!  I would suggest either weekly or every other week weights.  Pick the same time and same day, like Monday morning.  Keep a notebook.

Perhaps we could update the first post here with our progress on monthly basis; i.e. check in with -5, or +2, or whatever.  People can pm me if they want.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 04, 2010, 05:04:16 pm
Calorie Needs to lose weight

There are approximately 3500 calories in a pound of stored body fat. So, if you create a 3500-calorie deficit through diet, exercise or a combination of both, you will lose one pound of body weight. (On average 75% of this is fat, 25% lean tissue) If you create a 7000 calorie deficit you will lose two pounds and so on. The calorie deficit can be achieved either by calorie-restriction alone, or by a combination of fewer calories in (diet) and more calories out (exercise). This combination of diet and exercise is best for lasting weight loss. Indeed, sustained weight loss is difficult or impossible without increased regular exercise.

If you want to lose fat, a useful guideline for lowering your calorie intake is to reduce your calories by at least 500, but not more than 1000 below your maintenance level. For people with only a small amount of weight to lose, 1000 calories will be too much of a deficit. As a guide to minimum calorie intake, the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) recommends that calorie levels never drop below 1200 calories per day for women or 1800 calories per day for men. Even these calorie levels are quite low.

An alternative way of calculating a safe minimum calorie-intake level is by reference to your body weight or current body weight. Reducing calories by 15-20% below your daily calorie maintenance needs is a useful start. You may increase this depending on your weight loss goals.


http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/harris-benedict-equation/calorie-intake-to-lose-weight.php
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 04, 2010, 05:30:07 pm
Hey Paul, great idea for a new thread!   ;D


I'm on, and my goal is to lose 20 kg. (yes, I'm metric!!  :D)

Exercise is not really my thing, except for my daily bike tour to and from work (30 min each way),
so my plan is to cut down on calories.

I've got a sweet tooth, so I do know where to start....  ::)


(no Chuck, I do not need your comment on that!!  ::) ;) ;D)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 04, 2010, 05:34:08 pm
I'm with you on the hiking thing!  I felt like Moose hiking up Moose Mountain!


Well, as long as you didn't feel like Mountain, it can't be too bad!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on January 04, 2010, 08:04:47 pm
Hey there friend Brokies

I'll try to add or ask for a tip every day or so, regarding eating and exercise.  
Here's today's tip:  don't weigh yourself every day!

Thats a really good tip.  Lots of times its easy to tell the weight is coming off by the way my clothes fit.   As of now I dont fit into most of what I was wearing just a year ago, or its unflattering.  It takes time to pick out what outfit I can wear.

Alas, too much time sitting in front of the computer has taken its toll.    

I know what you mean Fran.  I need to do crunches to tighten up my core.  Hopefully walking will help tighten my butt.  Lunges are really good for that especially.  I suffer from chronic pain though, so its not going to be easy for me.  Mind over matter
 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Ellemeno on January 05, 2010, 05:10:53 am
I've been reading that not getting enough sleep makes people fat.  (It's past 1am here.)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on January 05, 2010, 06:02:32 am
Well if not getting enough sleep causes you to gain weight, then I take the cake.  It just 5am here and Im wide awake.  I "dont never" get enough sleep.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Meryl on January 05, 2010, 12:45:51 pm
Good luck, everyone!  May your weight-loss dreams be fulfilled this year.  :)

I of course need to join you, but I'm not committing just now.  Too much stress ahead, with a production about to kick off.  But when I did succeed at losing weight (26 pounds, year before last), it was on Weight Watchers, and it wasn't so much from exercise either.  Portion control was the big factor.  I ate pretty much whatever I wanted, but in much smaller portions.  Once you become really aware of what you're consuming daily, you'll get the weight off.  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2010, 12:54:51 pm
One tip that I have is to get exercise where ever you can.

Example.....I work on the 4th floor of a building, so I take the stairs instead of the elevator.  I also make a point of just walking up and down the stairs at different pointd during the day.

There's a branch about a mile down the road.  When I need to take a transaction there, if the day is slow enough, I walk instead of drive.  That means I get an extra two miles of walking in during the day.


Going to the mall?  Don't circle around looking for the nearest spot.....park farther away, and you'll get extra exercise walking to and from your car.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 05, 2010, 01:16:04 pm
Well if not getting enough sleep causes you to gain weight, then I take the cake.  It just 5am here and Im wide awake.  I "dont never" get enough sleep.

5 a.m. is a good time to exercise, friend!! More exercise and you'll sleep better, I promise you!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 01:30:36 pm
Good luck, everyone!  May your weight-loss dreams be fulfilled this year.  :)

I of course need to join you, but I'm not committing just now.  Too much stress ahead, with a production about to kick off.  But when I did succeed at losing weight (26 pounds, year before last), it was on Weight Watchers, and it wasn't so much from exercise either.  Portion control was the big factor.  I ate pretty much whatever I wanted, but in much smaller portions.  Once you become really aware of what you're consuming daily, you'll get the weight off.  8)

If you all don't mind my sticking my nose in here, may I also suggest the little visual trick of using luncheon or salad plates instead of dinner plates? It makes your plate look fuller with less food on it than a dinner plate.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Monika on January 05, 2010, 01:53:37 pm
I went to the store and bought some low-fat, sugar-free articles today. It's a start anyways. It's hard to get exercises here at the moment. I don't have access to a gym in the small town where I live. As far as I know, there is only one gym that's open to the public and it's a place where wannabe bodybuilders seem to spend their entire days...so no thanks. Walking is made hard because of the icy streets at the moment. Perhaps I can think of something to do indoors (as long as it doesn't include one of those fitness dvds anyway...)



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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 05, 2010, 02:13:51 pm
Hi everybody, I just discovered this thread! Paul, please put me down for 20.

I joined Weight Watchers in October, and since then, I'm down about 5 pounds. Not as much as I'd have liked to lose in three months, but a lot better than I usually do during that Dead Man's Curve of the dieting year: three family birthdays, Halloween, Thanksgiving, the holidays, my brother's visit last week.

So after days of nearly nonstop dining out, I'm ready to buckle back down to health portions, lots of veggies, keeping track of points, and all that fun WW stuff. I'm also going to start making more food at home, which will be good for both my weight and my budget.

I should add that this might be my eighth or ninth time joining WW. It DOES work -- if I follow the program, I do lose weight. In fact, I'm now a lifetime member and can start attending for free when I lose another 15 or so pounds. The reason I have to keep going back is what happens when I DON'T attend.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 02:30:24 pm
Going to the mall?  Don't circle around looking for the nearest spot.....park farther away, and you'll get extra exercise walking to and from your car.

Has anybody suggested doing this when you go to work, also? Park as far away from your job location as you reasonably can, or, if you take public transportation, get off the bus or subway a stop or two earlier and walk the rest of the way.

I do this ordinarily, but in the very cold weather we've been having these past couple of days, I've been staying on the bus to as close to my office as it goes!  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 05, 2010, 02:34:00 pm
Welcome to the club, Katherine.  

I'm loving the suggestions so far.

Moderate exercise does promote better sleep, I'm sure.

Thanks, Meryl, for the encouragement.

Jeff, I love the idea of tricking the eye with smaller plates.  

Monika, finding a balance between diet and exercise is certainly a problem (especially in northern climes).  I know Chuck is very pro-exercise, and others have had more luck with just fewer calories and better habits.  

Katherine and Meryl, can you give a quick blurb on how the WW point thingie works?  
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 02:46:37 pm
Jeff, I love the idea of tricking the eye with smaller plates.  

This is what I ordinarily do at home for dinner. I've been doing it for years. I can't claim credit for the idea, but I also can't remember anymore where I heard it.  :-\

I'm sure someone must have already suggested "brown-bagging" your lunch to work. I do that, too. I'm convinced I eat much less when I bring my own lunch than when I buy lunch out.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Monika on January 05, 2010, 02:53:27 pm
I'm sure someone must have already suggested "brown-bagging" your lunch to work. I do that, too. I'm convinced I eat much less when I bring my own lunch than when I buy lunch out.
I find that to be true too. Especially when eating at a buffet-style restaurant
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Lynne on January 05, 2010, 03:20:05 pm
Great idea for a thread, Paul - I'm just seeing it...

I haven't weighed in a few weeks, but count me in for 50 lbs, just to stick to round numbers.

Here's what I've been doing - going to yoga 1-2X/week and working on de-stressing and meditation.

The Plan for 2010 is to

1) continue the yoga and de-stressing
2) find some time somewhere for cardio at the gym I'm paying for but not using
3) get enough sleep - like Clarissa says
4) have afternoon tea and an energy bar so I'm not starving for supper so I grab what's at hand
5) cut back on alcohol consumption to no more than 2 per evening 2 times a week
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 05, 2010, 03:20:44 pm
I went to the store and bought some low-fat, sugar-free articles today. It's a start anyways. It's hard to get exercises here at the moment. I don't have access to a gym in the small town where I live. As far as I know, there is only one gym that's open to the public and it's a place where wannabe bodybuilders seem to spend their entire days...so no thanks. Walking is made hard because of the icy streets at the moment. Perhaps I can think of something to do indoors (as long as it doesn't include one of those fitness dvds anyway...)

Be careful, friend! Because low fat, sugar-free stuff does NOT equal low calorie or healthy always. Take, for instance, sugar free soda. I'm convinced there is hardly anything worse you can put in your body than that...it leaves you craving bad stuff and gets your system all out of whack. Plus, those imitation butter spreads like margarine. Stay away from those, far away!! What goes on my bread (what little I eat) is pure olive oil, with a little balsamic vinegar and za'tar spice added. That, or dijon mustard (the kind that has no mayo or sugar in it). As a general rule, I advise everyone to avoid processed foods, ennithing in the frozen aisles (except frozen fruits and vegetables), prepared foods, juices, drinks in bottles, and ennithing Starbucks!! (except straight black coffee). Instead of juice, have a piece of fruit. Instead of pizza or frozen dinners, have a salad that you make yourself. Instead of bread, cook up some wheat berries, barley, brown rice, or bulgar. And so on.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 05, 2010, 03:28:33 pm
Yay, Lynne, aim high!

Lee, what in the world is a wheat berry?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on January 05, 2010, 03:35:20 pm
5 a.m. is a good time to exercise, friend!! More exercise and you'll sleep better, I promise you!

My Gym opens at 5:30am.  Often think about going then but never do.  The encouragement helps for sure Friend Lee.  Also I like to eat raw vegetables as a snack with no dip!  And I sometimes use smaller saucers rather than a dinner plate.  

They say artificial sweetners are really bad for you.  Does anyone no about that?  I have been really good about staying away from "real" sweets.  I'll google it.

Omg I took a look in the mirror today and I jiggle.  Ewe No Way!  Im in my sweats and off to the gym now.  My normal gym partner just called said she's not going today.  That was the call I was waiting for before I left.  

Plus I really think sitting at my computer reading and posting is really effecting my muscles.  There's such a fine line between pain and wanting to strengthen my muscles.  I hurt either way although the latter is worse.  Any suggestions?

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 05, 2010, 03:37:05 pm
Welcome to the club, Katherine.

Thanks, Paul!  
 
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Katherine and Meryl, can you give a quick blurb on how the WW point thingie works?  

In Weight Watchers, you count points, not calories. You pretty much need a WW book (or two, or a membership on their website) to get the exact points for any particular item, and the formula supposedly based on calories, fat grams and fiber grams. But one point roughly translates to about 50 calories. Vegetables, broth, tea, coffee, and a few other things are zero points.

You get assigned a daily points goal based on your weight, age, gender and level of activity. The idea is to eat exactly that many points a day. You also get 35 points a week to use whenever you'd like (5 a day, 35 all at once -- whatever). Excercise earns you more points.

You're encouraged to consume a certain amount of dairy, a certain amount of healthy fats and a certain amount of water every day. Other than that, there are few dietary guidelines. You could eat all your points in chocolate, if you wanted. But you'd quickly realize that you don't get much food that way -- you have to be creative to get satisfying amounts of food while staying within your points allocation.

Members also may weigh in once a week and attend a half-hour WW meeting. I do that, because the meetings can be kind of fun and showing up helps me feel a sense of responsibility and commitment that I can't summon as well on my own.

But you can also do it all online, at www.weighwatchers.com (I feel like I'm posting spam!  :laugh:).

All of this you can do on your own, of course, and I always feel a bit resentful that I'm having to pay for it. But it does work.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Monika on January 05, 2010, 03:44:04 pm
Be careful, friend! Because low fat, sugar-free stuff does NOT equal low calorie or healthy always. Take, for instance, sugar free soda. I'm convinced there is hardly anything worse you can put in your body than that...it leaves you craving bad stuff and gets your system all out of whack. Plus, those imitation butter spreads like margarine. Stay away from those, far away!! What goes on my bread (what little I eat) is pure olive oil, with a little balsamic vinegar and za'tar spice added. That, or dijon mustard (the kind that has no mayo or sugar in it). As a general rule, I advise everyone to avoid processed foods, ennithing in the frozen aisles (except frozen fruits and vegetables), prepared foods, juices, drinks in bottles, and ennithing Starbucks!! (except straight black coffee). Instead of juice, have a piece of fruit. Instead of pizza or frozen dinners, have a salad that you make yourself. Instead of bread, cook up some wheat berries, barley, brown rice, or bulgar. And so on.
I totally hear what you're saying Lee, and you're right about what you're saying. But, if I'm honest with myself, I know I could never maintain that kind of lifestyle. I lack both the discipline and passion for it. and I don't like to cook. SO what I'm trying to do instead is to find better alternatives food wise, not necessarily the best, but better alternatives that I believe I can live with in the long run.

Of course, the best solution would be to have a private chef. What do you say, Lee?  O0 :D
(Everything you wrote about sounded absolutely yummy!)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 05, 2010, 03:47:29 pm
Dev, any luck with going to the pool?  That sounded ideal for you. 

Katherine, thanks for the succinct primer on WW.  I've known friends who have done very well with it. 

I'm not sure we can replicate it here, but we can try to provide a sense of community, if not commitment!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 05, 2010, 03:54:03 pm
Has everyone done their weigh-in?

(http://www.chinatraderonline.com/Files/Digital-Scale/DIGITAL-BATHROOM-SCALE-21154667092.jpg)

This is our point zero.  We have set our goals.  I suggest we do our next weigh-in on Monday, February 1.  People can post their progress then, or pm me, and I'll update the first post.

Keep up the ideas, tips, controversies.  We'll keep supporting one another here.

Nice turnout!  We can do it, Brokies!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 03:54:15 pm
I feel like I'm posting spam!  :laugh:

Surely Spam is something one should give up if one is dieting. ...  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 05, 2010, 03:55:36 pm
Surely Spam is something one should give up if one is dieting. ...  8)

Not to mention scrapple.  :-X
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: mariez on January 05, 2010, 03:57:35 pm
Thanks for starting this thread, Paul.  I just spotted it and it's a great idea.  I don't use a scale, but judging by how my clothes fit, I'm guessing my goal is around 10 lbs.  The past six months have been particularly stressful and I've fallen out of some good routines and into some not-so-good ones. 

I already brown bag my lunch, but I need to take a little more time to prepare something healthier and maybe pack an afternoon snack so I don't nibble while I'm preparing dinner (a very bad habit of mine!).  No more after dinner snacking, either.  And I need to go to bed earlier so I can get more sleep and force myself to get on the treadmill first thing in the morning. 

Okay, I've put it down in writing.  That means I have to do it, right?   ;D

Oh, I see while I was typing that Katherine supplied some info on WW, so I'll just add that, while I've never actually joined myself, my younger sister joined to lose some post-pregnancy weight, became a group leader once she reached her goal and has kept the weight off (my nephew is about to turn 12) ever since.  In fact, on Christmas she was mentioning that she would probably have a very small turnout the next day since most people don't want to be weighed in the day after Christmas.  But by the middle to end of January, there are always plenty of new members!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 03:59:00 pm
What in the world is a wheat berry?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_berry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_berry)

Not much there, but it defines the term.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 03:59:57 pm
Not to mention scrapple.  :-X

Indeed!  :P
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 05, 2010, 04:37:02 pm
I went to the store and bought some low-fat, sugar-free articles today. It's a start anyways. It's hard to get exercises here at the moment. I don't have access to a gym in the small town where I live. As far as I know, there is only one gym that's open to the public and it's a place where wannabe bodybuilders seem to spend their entire days...so no thanks. Walking is made hard because of the icy streets at the moment. Perhaps I can think of something to do indoors (as long as it doesn't include one of those fitness dvds anyway...)

LOL Monika!!

I can totally see where you're coming from. There's a hell of a difference between this:

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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 05, 2010, 04:38:02 pm

Lee, what in the world is a wheat berry?

Bear with me, while I illustrate with a story. When I was a teenager growing up in Kansas (call me Dorothy if you wish!) my father took me out in the country one time to show me the oil well we owned (well, one-16th of it) that was paying for my college tuition. While we standing there in the middle of a field, he broke off the head of some grass that was growing there, shook out some seeds from it, and gave them to me to taste. I said, "That's delicious!! What is it? I must have some more!!" It turned out to be wheat berries, the raw seeds of the wheat grain. Since then, I cook some up about once a month and indulge myself. It's certainly a long ways away from white bread!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 04:46:22 pm
It's certainly a long ways away from white bread!!

Since I got into the habit of eating whole-grain breads, I'd as soon eat cardboard as white bread.

Cardboard is probably better for you than the average store-bought white bread.  :P
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Monika on January 05, 2010, 04:49:51 pm
LOL Monika!!

I can totally see where you're coming from. There's a hell of a difference between this:
 

and this:



:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 05, 2010, 04:51:20 pm
I've also lost weight with WW. The WW method DOES work, as long as you stick to it.

I lost 37 kg, (I believe it's about the double in pounds), and stuck to it for about 3-4 years.
Then different things happened in my life and I lost control over my eating habits again.

My plan now is to go back to those healthy eating habits I once maintained, and hope to be able to
do it without actually going back to the actual WW. I hope this thread can replace the WW meetings as
a source of good ideas and moral support. And also to give myself a sense of responsibility to my own goals.
It's a lot easier when there's someone to check in with.

When I got used to the WW method, I slowly let go of the actual points counting. Instead I learned
to estimate the amount of food by the eye. A simple rule I tried to follow was: half the plate filled with veggies, raw or cooked, (no fat sauce or dressing!), a forth filled with meat, fish, beans or such, and a forth with pasta, rice, barley, potatoes or the like.

It worked fine, as long as I stuck to it. Now I just have to drag myself back to those good habits.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2010, 05:14:56 pm
We can all be "skinny Minis" by the time Sue arrives in April.

;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 05, 2010, 05:16:38 pm
Welcome aboard, Marie!  I'll add you to the list.

Thanks, Lee and Jeff, for the wheatberry story.  I like kashi but I'm not sure what it is! 

Sonja, excellent point about "losing control"--we're all about regaining our control.  (You lost 37 kg ? wow)

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 05, 2010, 05:19:39 pm
We can all be "skinny Minis" by the time Sue arrives in April.

;D

Speak for youself!  :P

I'm reminded of a scene from "Absolutely Fabulous"  when Edina, who's constantly battling her weight, says that inside her there's a thin person ready to come out.  Her mother replies, "Just the one, dear?"

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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 07:34:12 pm
www.weighwatchers.com

I believe there is a "t" missing from that url. Try the following:

http://www.weightwatchers.com (http://www.weightwatchers.com)

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2010, 07:45:28 pm
I'm reminded of a scene from "Absolutely Fabulous"  when Edina, who's constantly battling her weight, says that inside her there's a thin person ready to come out.  Her mother replies, "Just the one, dear?"

 :laugh:

I remember that!!!

I used to have a shirt that I would wear when I was working out.  It said on it:

"There's a thin man in me screaming to get out.  I ate him!"
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 05, 2010, 07:56:39 pm
I believe there is a "t" missing from that url. Try the following:

http://www.weightwatchers.com (http://www.weightwatchers.com)



Thanks, Jeff.  No wonder that didn't work!

:laugh:

I remember that!!!

I used to have a shirt that I would wear when I was working out.  It said on it:

"There's a thin man in me screaming to get out.  I ate him!"

LOL, Chuck!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 05, 2010, 09:09:30 pm
I believe there is a "t" missing from that url. Try the following:

http://www.weightwatchers.com (http://www.weightwatchers.com)

Oops, thanks, Jeff! That's what I get for typing, instead of cut-and-pasting.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2010, 09:56:25 pm
LOL, Chuck!

 ;) ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 11:03:28 pm
"There's a thin man in me screaming to get out.  I ate him!"

Just the one, dear?

 ;)  :-*
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2010, 11:10:31 pm
Oops, thanks, Jeff! That's what I get for typing, instead of cut-and-pasting.

Glad to help. I want to take some time to explore the site and learn what I can, especially about that point system, before I consider signing up.

 The central portion of my dinner this evening was actually one of Weight Watchers' "Smart Ones" entrees, the "Home Style Beef Pot Roast," which has a value of 3 points, or so it says on the box. I had the entree with a salad and a slice of whole wheat bread, and a glass of water.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2010, 11:28:17 pm
Just the one, dear?

 ;)  :-*


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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 05, 2010, 11:35:34 pm

Thanks, Lee and Jeff, for the wheatberry story.  I like kashi but I'm not sure what it is! 
Apparently, this is roasted buckwheat. It is also a grain, as is amaranth, barley, bulgar, couscous, kamut, millet, oats, corn, quinoa, rye, spelt, teff, triticale, and wheat.

Aside from the wheat berries, I like cracked wheat, barley, bulgar, and couscous. There is hardly ennithing better than pearl barley which makes a wonderful pilaf, breakfast cereal, or soup. I prefer cracked wheat to bulgar for making tabbouli, a wonderful dish with chopped parsley, tomato, mint, garlic, scallions, olive oil and lemon. Another wonderful grain dish is grits or, if you prefer, polenta. It's great for breakfast with a poached egg. Contrary to popular thought, these whole grains do not always need to be cooked for a long time. Pearl barley and millet should be cooked 35 minutes, kasha and bulgar for 20 minutes, cracked wheat for 25 minutes. Couscous is pre-cooked so only needs 7 minutes. Wheat berries require 50 minutes if soaked overnight. To add flavor you can soak grains in broth or fruit juice and add your favorite herbs and spices, including Old Bay Seasoning, saffron, za'tar, or onion/garlic seasoning.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 05, 2010, 11:38:02 pm

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Hay, I'm posting here! ~ Ratso
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 05, 2010, 11:40:34 pm
Glad to help. I want to take some time to explore the site and learn what I can, especially about that point system, before I consider signing up.

 The central portion of my dinner this evening was actually one of Weight Watchers' "Smart Ones" entrees, the "Home Style Beef Pot Roast," which has a value of 3 points, or so it says on the box. I had the entree with a salad and a slice of whole wheat bread, and a glass of water.

That sounds healthy! Three points is quite low for a meal.

FYI, Lean Cuisine frozen dinners also list the WW points they contain, but in smaller print on the side of the box. I tend to get LC better, but I usually just pick whichever one's on sale.

Neither line would meet Lee's standards for healthy eating, I know. But when you don't feel like cooking, they sure are convenient, and some are even edible.

Tonight I made a very simple weeknight spaghetti sauce -- lean ground beef, jarred sauce, a little bit of added garlic, wine and fresh basil. I made pasta  for my kids, but I ate mine on baked spaghetti squash. Not something I'd want to do all the time, but every now and then it's pretty good.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 06, 2010, 12:03:20 am

Tonight I made a very simple weeknight spaghetti sauce -- lean ground beef, jarred sauce, a little bit of added garlic, wine and fresh basil. I made pasta  for my kids, but I ate mine on baked spaghetti squash. Not something I'd want to do all the time, but every now and then it's pretty good.

Sounds yummy!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on January 06, 2010, 03:28:47 am
I wanna look like Jillian from the biggest loser!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 06, 2010, 09:48:17 am
That sounds healthy! Three points is quite low for a meal.

That's interesting to know. I wonder, though, what I would have to add to cover the salad and the bread?

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FYI, Lean Cuisine frozen dinners also list the WW points they contain, but in smaller print on the side of the box. I tend to get LC better, but I usually just pick whichever one's on sale.

I never noticed that about Lean Cuisine! Generally I tend to go with the entrees that I like, and I have learned to my annoyance that grocery stores don't necessarily carry all the varieties of entree made. The supermarket where I generally shop doesn't carry LC's chicken chow mein or chicken with basil cream sauce, two of my favorites, so from time to time I go to a different store and buy a couple of them. It does, however, carry LC's lemon chicken--I really like the rice that comes as part of that meal--and WW's pot roast, but not WW's Dijon chicken! Aaargh!  :laugh:

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Neither line would meet Lee's standards for healthy eating, I know. But when you don't feel like cooking, they sure are convenient, and some are even edible.

Sure enough, but I wasn't going to say anything about that.  ::)  But time often plays a role in my dinner choices. If I run errands after work, or go to the gym, and then, when I get home, deal with the snail mail and e-mail, frequently before I know it, it's 7:00 and I'm starved. I need to eat and I need to eat pronto, not spend another hour preparing something. Also, a way back on this thread, Meryl made a point about portion control with which I wholeheartedly agree. Using LC and WW's entrees is my way of providing a quick meal with the portion strictly controlled. Sometimes I'll add fruit or "one serving" of cookies like ginger snaps for dessert, and I'm good to go.

I would never argue that frozen entrees are better than home cooking, but I so rarely have the time, inclination, and energy to cook these days. I actually did more cooking over my vacation between Christmas and New Year's than I've done in months!

Of course, then there is the issue of going out to restaurants. I like going out to restaurants, and we have many good restaurants within easy walking distance of my home here in Center City Phialdelphia, but restaurant portions are always larger than what I would eat at home, even when I've done my own cooking, so I never eat out as much as I'd like.  :(

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 06, 2010, 11:01:08 am
I don't have ennithing against frozen dinners, I'm sure they've come a long way since the Swanson's dinners I bought when my daughter was a baby and I was nursing 10 hours a day. My husband wasn't much of a cook then. He would turn out two dinners onto plates to nuke them and then, since they didn't look substantial enuff, he would put two other frozen dinners on top, two unrelated frozen dinners! Now he has become a very good cook, as well as my daughter and most nites I can't even get into the kitchen to cook ennithing!! But since I don't know about frozen dinners, I can't write anything about them.

I am familiar with all kinds of dehydrated meals that hikers, soldiers, and such take in their backpacks if anybody wants to know about that!

Thanks for the reminder to weigh in for a baseline, Paul. I keep forgetting to do that! Also, does everyone have a little notebook to keep track of progress? I'm going to put mine on a ribbon that goes around my neck with my gym key!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 06, 2010, 11:27:12 am
I try not to eat the frozen diet meals.  I remember they had (don't know if this has changed) higer sodium contents, and that causes high blood pressure and bloating/water retention.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 06, 2010, 12:00:29 pm
That's interesting to know. I wonder, though, what I would have to add to cover the salad and the bread?

An average slice of whole-wheat bread is usually 1 point. Salad dressing varies widely, but a tablespoon of vinaigrette, say, is about 1.5 to 2 points. Lettuce and most other vegetables are free. If you add cheese or croutons or sumpn, that's extra. Otherwise, your whole meal would be 6 points or less.

That's still pretty low, and if your other meals were similar and you didn't snack much I'm sure you'd be well within your WW limits. I'm allowed 20 points a day -- again, based on weight, age, gender and normal level of activity -- plus that optional extra 35 a week. You and I are the same age, and do probably similarly sedentary work. I'm not sure how our weights compare, but you'd probably get more points just for being a man.

A WW anecdote: Most classes have one or two men in them, no more. I was in a class once where new members were asked to say how they did in their first week. One man goes, "Well, I just joined on Saturday, so I've only lost 10 pounds so far." The women in the class exchanged looks of "Let's kill him!"  :laugh:

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I never noticed that about Lean Cuisine! Generally I tend to go with the entrees that I like, and I have learned to my annoyance that grocery stores don't necessarily carry all the varieties of entree made. The supermarket where I generally shop doesn't carry LC's chicken chow mein or chicken with basil cream sauce, two of my favorites, so from time to time I go to a different store and buy a couple of them. It does, however, carry LC's lemon chicken--I really like the rice that comes as part of that meal--and WW's pot roast, but not WW's Dijon chicken! Aaargh!  :laugh:

I like the chicken with basil cream sauce, too! I also like most of the LC Asian entrees, as well as the tortilla-crusted fish.  I especially look for the newer LC entrees that feature whole-wheat pasta and/or extra vegetables.

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restaurant portions are always larger than what I would eat at home, even when I've done my own cooking, so I never eat out as much as I'd like.  :(

Well, WW would tell you to have the server box up half the meal immediately, before you even start eating. Another option is to go with a health-conscious friend: split an entree, then each of you get a side salad. But restaurants are tricky, because even when you try to order something light you don't know exactly how much butter or oil is in the sauce or soup.



I don't have ennithing against frozen dinners, I'm sure they've come a long way since the Swanson's dinners I bought when my daughter was a baby and I was nursing 10 hours a day.

I try not to eat the frozen diet meals.  I remember they had (don't know if this has changed) higer sodium contents, and that causes high blood pressure and bloating/water retention.

Yes, I have heard they are high in sodium. And as a general rule, I agree with Lee that processed food is less than ideal, health-wise.

On the other hand, you have to do what works for your lifestyle and interests. For many people, it's hard to come home from work or whatever every night and peel and chop vegetables and so on, and if it's too much trouble you won't do it forever. I opt for cooking from scratch when I can, but have a freezer-full of frozen meals as a fallback when I can't. As a Plan C, I even know some of the healthier options at fast-food restaurants.

I've been going through my old Cooking Light and other food magazines and compiling a list of meals I could make that a) sound good b) aren't too much trouble and c) my kids would conceivably eat.

BTW, if you think it's hard to cook healthy meals for yourself, try doing it for both yourself and for two slim, active teenage boys who aren't big on vegetables.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Lynne on January 06, 2010, 12:23:39 pm
I've done WW a few times - I like the online tools to track your eating and exercise - but I've found (and I think I've posted this elsewhere) that the most help WW has been was to show me where I'm going wrong.

Breakfast and lunch are usually completely within reason for me...Dinner is the culprit.  Workdays are long and I'm usually really hungry by the time I get out of work, which leads to eating out - add a glass or 3 of wine and I've blown the whole day, never mind not earning any activity points.

FWIW WW counts 1 glass of red wine as 2 points.

So, I'm going to try to eat out less - frequently I divide dinner into two portions and take half home - and have an energy bar or something late in the afternoon with tea so getting to dinner doesn't become so crucial.

 :-\

Tonight is yoga class and I got to work with my gym clothes, so half the battle is won.   :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 06, 2010, 12:35:06 pm
I used to have a similar problem when I was working and here's how I fixed it. I would take a break from my desk at about 9 or 10 am and have a light breakfast such as an English muffin with egg and a slice of ham or a breakfast burrito. At lunchtime, I would take a walk or join in an exercise class, or maybe run errands. Then, I would work until I felt hunger pangs at around 4 pm and take another break to eat some leftovers brought from home, including any vegetables that were available, a small portion of fish, chicken, or meat, and some pasta or rice. After work, I would go to the library, museum, park, a meeting, or a movie instead of going home and having dinner (my family usually ate before I arrived home anyway). This routine worked extremely well if followed 2-3 times a week.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 06, 2010, 12:44:46 pm
I've done WW a few times - I like the online tools to track your eating and exercise - but I've found (and I think I've posted this elsewhere) that the most help WW has been was to show me where I'm going wrong.

Breakfast and lunch are usually completely within reason for me...Dinner is the culprit.  Workdays are long and I'm usually really hungry by the time I get out of work, which leads to eating out - add a glass or 3 of wine and I've blown the whole day, never mind not earning any activity points.

FWIW WW counts 1 glass of red wine as 2 points.

And that's a smallish glass -- 5 oz. (a largish glass, eight ounces, or one cup, is 3 points). I save most of my "bonus points" for wine, because if I tried to stay within my 20 daily points plus have a glass or six of wine I'd be seriously undernourished.

One year I tracked every calorie I ate for a couple of months. On days when I consumed no alcohol, I had little problem staying within my designated limit. On days when I did drink, forget it.



Mention of energy bars brings me to one of my dilemmas. Is it better to eat a little bit of treat-y food -- energy and fiber bars, low-fat pudding, WW bars and desserts, etc. -- or to stay away from that stuff entirely and limit oneself to fruit for sweetness? Those handy treats can be lifesavers in a pinch, and they're portable and tasty. On the other hand, I find I usually do better losing weight if I avoid all semblance of chocolate or sugar and retrain my taste buds. But this might be one of those individualized things.

I had a friend once who lost a lot of weight but throughout the process always allowed himself one treat a day: a piece of cake or pie, some cookies or ice cream. Me, I think I do better trying to lose my taste for that stuff, because it tends to just trigger overeating.



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Post by: southendmd on January 06, 2010, 01:31:05 pm
On the subject of alcohol, cutting down is a great way to limit calories.

A little chemistry lesson:  both carbohydrate and protein have 4 calories per gram.  Fat has 9 calories per gram.  Alcohol has 7 calories per gram

Add ice, water it down, use small glasses, save it for a treat. 

I like wine with dinner.  I find if I have a big glass of water on the table, I'll drink less wine. 
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Post by: southendmd on January 06, 2010, 01:34:11 pm
Since I've never liked those energy bars, I've found something for the late-afternoon hunger crash--candied ginger.  I keep a jar in my office.  When the hunger hits, I take one piece.  It's spicy and has a soothing effect on the stomach. 

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Post by: southendmd on January 06, 2010, 01:49:58 pm
(http://img-2.h-img.com/media/img/s/f/a/s/fast-food-my-way-847753.jpg)

I love Jacques Pépin!  His book, Fast Food My Way,  is brilliant.  One of the best recipes is chicken persillade, very simple, and pretty healthy.  I cooked this just last night:

It involves boneless, skinless chicken breast, cut up in cubes, dredged in a little superfine flour, and cooked quickly in just a little olive oil over high heat.  At the end, you add the persillade, which is simply finely chopped parsley and garlic.  So simple, but great flavor.  (Jacques says it's the flavor of his childhood, when his grandmother cooked everything with parsley and garlic.)  A squeeze of lemon, serve over a little rice, or a bed of lettuce.  

Bon appétit!

Boneless, skinless chicken breast is so versatile.  Where I shop, they sell them individually wrapped, so they're easy to use and to freeze.  Four breasts were about $9, not too bad.  

Persillade is a great flavor enhancer.  If you add it early in the cooking, the garlic kind of mellows.  If you add it at the very end, it keeps the garlic zing.  

BTW, parsley is the antidote to garlic breath, so I wonder if they cancel each other out?  :)
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Post by: Lynne on January 06, 2010, 01:54:52 pm
Paul - where's a good place to buy candied ginger?  Is it in the baking items aisle?

Katherine - I suppose the sweet/treat thing might be individual.  I rarely have sweets in the house and haven't hit the vending machine here at work once in 9 months...I am tempted by restaurant desserts once in awhile, especially if I've had whine (and thanks, Paul, for the calories per gram sanity check).  My weaknesses are dinner-style carbs like pastas and rices instead of desserts, though of late I've been craving meat, which I think is my body telling me I'm not getting enough protein.
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Post by: southendmd on January 06, 2010, 01:59:30 pm
Paul - where's a good place to buy candied ginger?  Is it in the baking items aisle?

My favorite source is Atlantic Spice Company in Truro, on Cape Cod.  They're an amazing source for all kinds of spices, and they ship to the lower 48:   http://www.atlanticspice.com

I like theirs, because it's fresh, and very spicy.  It comes in cubes, but I like the discs. 

Also, Trader Joe's has their own brand.  Whole Foods sells it also. 
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 06, 2010, 02:18:07 pm
Yes, I have heard they are high in sodium. And as a general rule, I agree with Lee that processed food is less than ideal, health-wise.

I don't think anybody would disagree about processed foods being less than ideal.

Here's a sodium anecdote--which also shows, I think, how important it is to be an avid label reader in the supermarket. I was enchanted by those TV commercials for that microwavable chow mein--the commercials with the little Chinese guy, "Eddie, from accounting (I'm having a senior moment as to the brand.  ::) ). I found the product in the supermarket, read the sodium content, and thought I'd have a stroke just from reading the label!  :laugh:

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Mention of energy bars brings me to one of my dilemmas. Is it better to eat a little bit of treat-y food -- energy and fiber bars, low-fat pudding, WW bars and desserts, etc. -- or to stay away from that stuff entirely and limit oneself to fruit for sweetness? Those handy treats can be lifesavers in a pinch, and they're portable and tasty. On the other hand, I find I usually do better losing weight if I avoid all semblance of chocolate or sugar and retrain my taste buds. But this might be one of those individualized things.

I had a friend once who lost a lot of weight but throughout the process always allowed himself one treat a day: a piece of cake or pie, some cookies or ice cream. Me, I think I do better trying to lose my taste for that stuff, because it tends to just trigger overeating.

I've never tried any of those energy bars. I've heard they're high in fat; or is that just granola bars?  ???

I also keep hearing advice to eat a number of small meals through the day instead of the traditional "three squares."

As for treats, in ordinary times--I mean not around the holidays when I'm trying to work my way through too many edible gifts just to get rid of them--I permit myself three dark chocolate Hershey Kisses a day when I get home from work. That way I have the treat to look forward too, and I don't feel that I'm depriving myself of chocolate, but I'm also not going on a binge and stuffing myself with it.
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Post by: serious crayons on January 06, 2010, 02:38:01 pm
I've never tried any of those energy bars. I've heard they're high in fat; or is that just granola bars?  ???

I think those actual "energy bars," like they sell in health-food stores or the vitamin aisle, are high fat. So are granola bars. But fiber/nut/fruit-type bars -- the ones in the cereal or cookie aisle -- vary widely, and some are pretty low fat and/or high fiber.

As I mentioned somewhere else around here, I brought home some boxes of WW snack bars over the holidays, and they're delicious. Only one point apiece. Then again, I could eat four of them. But I credit them for minimizing my consumption of Halloween candy, Christmas cookies, etc., since October. My son likes the red velvet ones; I'm partial to the chocolate caramel.

But I'm quitting them in the new year. Same as I eventually had to quit getting low-fat and/or low-sugar ice-cream bars in the summer, and low-fat chocolate pudding, and ... For me, it's better to avoid sweets entirely, except fruit. (I feel the same way about pasta and bread, BTW, though I consume whole-grain versions of those, I do best if I limit even whole grains to one or two servings a day.)



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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 06, 2010, 03:28:52 pm
I think those actual "energy bars," like they sell in health-food stores or the vitamin aisle, are high fat. So are granola bars. But fiber/nut/fruit-type bars -- the ones in the cereal or cookie aisle -- vary widely, and some are pretty low fat and/or high fiber.

As I mentioned somewhere else around here, I brought home some boxes of WW snack bars over the holidays, and they're delicious. Only one point apiece. Then again, I could eat four of them. But I credit them for minimizing my consumption of Halloween candy, Christmas cookies, etc., since October. My son likes the red velvet ones; I'm partial to the chocolate caramel.

But I'm quitting them in the new year. Same as I eventually had to quit getting low-fat and/or low-sugar ice-cream bars in the summer, and low-fat chocolate pudding, and ... For me, it's better to avoid sweets entirely, except fruit. (I feel the same way about pasta and bread, BTW, though I consume whole-grain versions of those, I do best if I limit even whole grains to one or two servings a day.)

I'll have to look around for those WW bars just to check them out, although I have to say I think anybody is better off not snacking at all between meals.

I seem to have "inherited" my mother's weakness for "baked goods," specifically bread and cookies, cake somewhat less. I've never been much of a pie eater. I didn't like the taste of pie crust when I was a kid. But in general over the last year I have made an effort to reduce my carb intake, not so much in an effort to lose weight as to control what I'm beginning to see as an inexorable gain as I age.
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Post by: serious crayons on January 06, 2010, 04:11:05 pm
I'll have to look around for those WW bars just to check them out, although I have to say I think anybody is better off not snacking at all between meals.

Some WW products, possibly including the bars, are only available at WW locations. That's where I buy mine. But of course the supermarket carries lots of WW frozen desserts, muffins and other items.

As for snacking, that's back to the old "three squares" versus "more, smaller meals" dilemma. Some experts recommend five or six meals, but each somewhere in size between a regular snack and a regular meal. To me, that requires too much work and planning. Three times a day is enough for me. In between, I might eat fruit -- bananas and prunes make particularly good snacks -- or whatever.

This time of year, I tend to really crave carbs. I'm best off avoiding them as much as possible.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 06, 2010, 04:23:31 pm
Seriously, I think it's natural to crave carbs this time of year. Once upon a time our ancestors needed them to survive the winter.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on January 06, 2010, 05:06:45 pm
Oh, I thought it was fat. At least, that's what my chickens crave. Although come to think of it, maybe fat IS carbs.
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Post by: serious crayons on January 06, 2010, 05:11:27 pm
Seriously, I think it's natural to crave carbs this time of year. Once upon a time our ancestors needed them to survive the winter.

I often think, around this time of year, when some days the temperature here doesn't climb above zero, what an intimidating prospect winter must have been for my cold-climate ancestors. Running short of food and not surviving until spring was a reasonable possibility.

That's where wheat berries would come in handy, to take the conversation full circle!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 06, 2010, 05:23:02 pm
My favorite source is Atlantic Spice Company in Truro, on Cape Cod.  They're an amazing source for all kinds of spices, and they ship to the lower 48:   http://www.atlanticspice.com
I like theirs, because it's fresh, and very spicy.  It comes in cubes, but I like the discs. 
Also, Trader Joe's has their own brand.  Whole Foods sells it also. 
I found out that candied ginger is easy to make, once you get the ginger peeled. And I recently learned a trick for peeling it too. Just use a teaspoon turned bowl side up and run it over the peel. It gets into the little crevices very well! I save the peelings to make ginger tea.

Along the same lines, I have several Altoids tins that I fill with a mixture of fennel seeds and sugar crystals. I like it much better than mints, it's healthier (Indians and Italians love it), and it costs a lot less.
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Post by: Sason on January 06, 2010, 06:44:24 pm
--candied ginger.  I keep a jar in my office.  When the hunger hits, I take one piece.  It's spicy and has a soothing effect on the stomach. 

I love candied ginger! In fact, I love everything ginger.....  ;D
But be careful, there's lots of sugar in them.


About the being-too-hungry-to-cook-when-I-get-home thing.

I always have a snack at work around 3 or so. A fruit and/or a sandwich brought from home and kept in the fridge at work during the day. I also have some low fat cheese there, and some "knäckebröd" (crisp bread that keeps forever), for those days when I forget the sandwich.
Even so, I'm really hungry and must have food at once when I get home. I solve that problem by always cooking in advance, and have something ready to just heat up.

I cook e g a large pot of veggie soup, or oven roasted veggies or sumptin to fill half my plate. I have individually small portions of leftover pasta and rice in the freezer, and see to it the day before that there is some kind of fish or meat to go with it. That way I just have to heat everything up and be able to eat more or less immediately when I get home.

I have a hard time keeping off the chocolate that I tend to indulge myself in in the evenings, after dinner. Even though I have a fruit for dessert, it's hard to leave the sweets be.  One solution is to simply not having them in the house. Another is to brush my teeth immediately after dinner, then I don't get tempted to snack, cos I won't bother brushing them again!  ;D
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 06, 2010, 07:21:34 pm
Seriously, I think it's natural to crave carbs this time of year. Once upon a time our ancestors needed them to survive the winter.

Oh, I thought it was fat. At least, that's what my chickens crave. Although come to think of it, maybe fat IS carbs.

I expect we crave both.

Do carbs that don't get "burned off" turn into fat?
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Post by: Sason on January 06, 2010, 07:23:19 pm

Do carbs that don't get "burned off" turn into fat?

Yes, they do. It's the body's way of preserving unburned energy for later use.

Same for protein and fat.
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Post by: Berit on January 06, 2010, 07:31:09 pm
I wish I would crave carots......
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Post by: Sason on January 06, 2010, 07:35:48 pm
Berit!  :-*
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Post by: Berit on January 06, 2010, 07:51:50 pm
Sason!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: louisev on January 06, 2010, 07:56:33 pm
carrots are actually high in carbohydrates, they are considered a "high carb" root veg.  In fact I just made a cake with carrots.
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Post by: serious crayons on January 06, 2010, 08:20:17 pm
Speaking of carbs, here's a tip for those who love mashed potatoes but don't love the carbs: Mix mashed potatoes with mashed turnips or cauliflower, about 50/50. Those veggies are lower on the glycemic index, and will actually make the 'tates more delicious. Add a little butter or olive oil, low-fat milk or sour cream, chives or garlic.

Leftovers? Form them into patties, coat them in breadcrumbs or the like, a little parmesan, and lightly sautee.



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Post by: Lynne on January 06, 2010, 09:16:49 pm
Cabbage is another mostly harmless veggie that can be mixed with mashed potatoes. The Irish call it colcannon, though I think they add cheddar to improve the taste. ;)
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Post by: serious crayons on January 06, 2010, 10:12:04 pm
Cabbage is another mostly harmless veggie that can be mixed with mashed potatoes. The Irish call it colcannon, though I think they add cheddar to improve the taste. ;)

Sure and begorrah I've made that dish many times, Lassie. I boil potatoes until tender, remove and drain, throw cabbage and chopped onions in the pan of water and cook until tender, remove and drain. Mix all together, along with grated cheddar cheese, reserving some to sprinkle on top. Put in cooking sprayed baking pan, top with reserved cheese, bake at 350 for half an hour or so, until cheese melts. I love this dish, and it doesn't seem too bad, weight-loss-wise.



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Post by: Lynne on January 06, 2010, 11:59:13 pm
Here's a not so Irish secret my Katy-girl:  I add a bag of baby spinach to mine so I get my greens in relatively painlessly.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on January 07, 2010, 12:58:01 am
You're warming the cockles of my heart, friends!!

There's an NPR story about whole grains today, with some good recipes!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122264238&sc=fb&cc=fp (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122264238&sc=fb&cc=fp)
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Post by: CellarDweller on January 07, 2010, 07:16:26 am
Here's a not so Irish secret my Katy-girl:  I add a bag of baby spinach to mine so I get my greens in relatively painlessly.

I like spinach.  I put it in my salad every day.
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Post by: louisev on January 07, 2010, 07:17:10 am
I like spinach.  I put it in my salad every day.

allergic to spinach.
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Post by: serious crayons on January 07, 2010, 09:17:13 am
I prefer arugula to spinach. I could eat just about anything on arugula, lightly tossed with olive oil and squirt of lemon.

For lunch sometimes, I take whatever's left over from last night's dinner: fish, chicken, meat loaf ... and have it on arugula, lettuce or a mixture of the two.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 07, 2010, 09:49:54 am
I'll stick with Romaine lettuce. Spinach and all that stuff is too bitter for my taste.

Fortunately, when I was growing up, my mother didn't like spinach, so she never served it.  ;D
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Post by: CellarDweller on January 07, 2010, 09:50:59 am
Not a big fan of iceberg lettuce....I've heard it has no nutritional value to it.

I do like romaine, and will eat it in a caesar salad.  Spring mix is good too.
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Post by: serious crayons on January 07, 2010, 10:45:05 am
Not a big fan of iceberg lettuce....I've heard it has no nutritional value to it.

I do like romaine, and will eat it in a caesar salad.  Spring mix is good too.

My favorite lettuce is Boston butter. I also like red leaf, spring mix and baby romaine. I believe that as a rule of thumb, the darker the leaves, the more nutrients.


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Post by: Sason on January 07, 2010, 05:06:10 pm
I like spinach.  I put it in my salad every day.

ahem.......    ::)






 :laugh:
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 07, 2010, 05:24:31 pm
My favorite lettuce is Boston butter. I also like red leaf, spring mix and baby romaine. I believe that as a rule of thumb, the darker the leaves, the more nutrients.

It's my understanding that all dark green vegetables are supposed to be especially good for you.
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Post by: serious crayons on January 08, 2010, 01:36:03 am
It's my understanding that all dark green vegetables are supposed to be especially good for you.

Yes, I think dark color of any vegetable or fruit -- green, orange, red, purple, etc. -- can be an indicator of its nutritiousness. But at the same time, cauliflower and cabbage are nutritious, too.

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Post by: Brown Eyes on January 08, 2010, 10:52:59 am
My favorite lettuce is Boston butter. I also like red leaf, spring mix and baby romaine. I believe that as a rule of thumb, the darker the leaves, the more nutrients.




I love Boston butter lettuce!!  And, I agree that arugula is very good too... I like that it has a really bold, peppery taste.

I also love that you can often find Boston butter lettuce in the grocery store with the roots still on, so it lasts longer.  That's often my problem with buying greens... they tend to start wilting before I have a chance to eat them a lot of the time.  But with the hydroponic type of butter lettuce I buy a little time.



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Post by: CellarDweller on January 08, 2010, 11:05:21 am
Breakfast was a hard boiled egg, and some lime yogurt.

Lunch is spinach salad, lemon chicken and some corn casarole.  (leftovers from the other night).

not sure what dinner will be.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2010, 11:45:17 am
I also love that you can often find Boston butter lettuce in the grocery store with the roots still on, so it lasts longer.  That's often my problem with buying greens... they tend to start wilting before I have a chance to eat them a lot of the time.  But with the hydroponic type of butter lettuce I buy a little time.

Tell you what, I find that greens keep for weeks for me in a good, old-fashioned Tupperware crisper!
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Post by: Brown Eyes on January 08, 2010, 12:14:06 pm
Tell you what, I find that greens keep for weeks for me in a good, old-fashioned Tupperware crisper!

Really?  I usually keep my lettuce in a salad spinner (which doubles as a crisper) and I find it tends to start getting slimmy or wilty within a week.  I'm really picky about lettuce though... once I start finding leaves that have gone bad I tend to get turned off from the whole batch.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2010, 12:39:39 pm
Really?  I usually keep my lettuce in a salad spinner (which doubles as a crisper) and I find it tends to start getting slimmy or wilty within a week.  I'm really picky about lettuce though... once I start finding leaves that have gone bad I tend to get turned off from the whole batch.

I've never had a salad spinner. Are they intended to be used for storage? I suspect that nothing keeps food fresh like good ol' Tupperware!  :laugh:

With any type of green that forms a "head," if you throw the whole thing out when the outer leaves start to get icky, you miss the best, tastiest part, the "heart."
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Post by: serious crayons on January 08, 2010, 12:57:18 pm
I wash the lettuce, spin it, let it air dry, then put it in a container -- not Tupperware but probably similar -- that pushes out all the air. It lasts for maybe a week.

I haven't tried those kind with the roots, but I've tried the basil one, and it's great. Especially if you put the roots in water or dirt.

 
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Post by: Front-Ranger on January 08, 2010, 03:23:54 pm
I occasionally have problems with lettuce too, but I have a compost bin AND a couple of chickens, so that takes care of that! Plus, I don't eat as much lettuce in the winter as I do in summer, when I can pick it out of my garden. Let me know if you need any arugula seeds, Kathryn!!

Okay, I finally got my benchmark weight established and started my notebook. Thanks again for starting this thread Paul.

I also decided to start Lent a little early like I did last year. I'm giving up the same thing as last year too...no more alcohol until April 4, Easter. I hope this works because otherwise it's going to be very difficult for me to lose 10 lbs. One time I hiked 17 miles in one day and only lost a half a pound!!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2010, 03:46:53 pm
I don't eat as much lettuce in the winter as I do in summer, when I can pick it out of my garden.

Lettuce right out of the garden is definitely best (same goes for tomatoes, perhaps even more so!). I had some at my dad's last summer. Still on an ordinary week day, I eat salad twice a day, year in, year out.
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Post by: southendmd on January 08, 2010, 05:53:02 pm
Still on an ordinary week day, I eat salad twice a day, year in, year out.

Jeff, you're so regular.  :)
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Post by: CellarDweller on January 08, 2010, 07:58:12 pm
 :laugh:
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2010, 10:23:17 pm
Jeff, you're so regular.  :)

That's what eating salad twice a day will do for you.  :laugh:
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Post by: louisev on January 08, 2010, 10:34:03 pm
That's what eating salad twice a day will do for you.  :laugh:

I am making you all eat carrot cake!!!
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Post by: Fran on January 09, 2010, 03:20:31 am
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I love Jacques Pépin!  His book, Fast Food My Way,  is brilliant.  One of the best recipes is chicken persillade, very simple, and pretty healthy.  I cooked this just last night:

It involves boneless, skinless chicken breast, cut up in cubes, dredged in a little superfine flour, and cooked quickly in just a little olive oil over high heat.  At the end, you add the persillade, which is simply finely chopped parsley and garlic.  So simple, but great flavor.  (Jacques says it's the flavor of his childhood, when his grandmother cooked everything with parsley and garlic.)  A squeeze of lemon, serve over a little rice, or a bed of lettuce.  

Bon appétit!

Thanks, Paul.  This recipe's definitely a keeper!  I made it tonight for the family, and they loved it.  I served it over jasmine rice and added some steamed broccoli.  I couldn't find the Wondra flour, not even at Whole Foods, so I just used the regular kind.

In case anyone needs more detailed cooking directions, I found the recipe at Amazon by using their "search inside this book" function.

Jacques Pépin's Chicken Breasts with Garlic and Parsley
(From Fast Food My Way)

Dry chicken cubes well before you season them.  Don’t put them in flour till you’re ready to sauté them.  Wondra flour (finely milled) will work best....  Use a 12-inch skillet (nonstick).
4 servings

3 boneless chicken breast halves (over 7 oz. each) cut into 1 to 1-1/2 inch cubes
2 T Wondra flour
½ t salt
½ t freshly ground black pepper
2 T good olive oil
1 T chopped garlic
3 T chopped fresh parsley
2 T unsalted butter
1 lemon (quartered)

Dry chicken cubes with paper towels and toss them with flour, salt, and pepper in a bowl.  Heat oil in skillet over high heat till very hot but not smoking.  Add chicken cubes and cook in one layer, turning occasionally, for about 3-1/2 minutes.  Meanwhile, combine garlic and parsley in a small bowl. Add the butter and parsley mixture to skillet and sauté for 1 minute longer, shaking the skillet occasionally to coat the chicken.

To serve, divide among four plates, add a wedge of lemon to each plate and serve within 15 minutes.

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Post by: southendmd on January 09, 2010, 11:28:24 am
Thanks, Paul.  This recipe's definitely a keeper!  I made it tonight for the family, and they loved it.  I served it over jasmine rice and added some steamed broccoli.  I couldn't find the Wondra flour, not even at Whole Foods, so I just used the regular kind.

That's exactly how I serve it, Fran. 

You don't really need the Wondra (that's definitely a supermarket kind of thing, never at Whole Foods), regular flour works fine.  The key is to dry the chicken well first.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Fran on January 09, 2010, 04:43:59 pm
You don't really need the Wondra (that's definitely a supermarket kind of thing, never at Whole Foods), regular flour works fine.  The key is to dry the chicken well first.

I just called, and, of course, they carry it at my regular grocery store.  I didn't realize it comes in a canister.  I was looking at the bags of flour.  Duh!!!  (Live and learn.)

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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on January 11, 2010, 12:08:36 am


For those who don't need (or distain) a salad-spinner, some may try--

The Paleo Diet?!

Hmmm.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/fashion/10caveman.html?pagewanted=all (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/fashion/10caveman.html?pagewanted=all)

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The New Age Cavemen and the City
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ANCESTOR ENVY John Durant, Melissa McEwen and Vladimir Averbukh.


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NEW ICE AGE Meat storage for John Durant's paleo diet.


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PRIMAL FITNESS Vladimir Averbukh eats raw grass-fed beef and strengthens on a city jungle gym.


By JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN
Published: January 8, 2010


LIKE many New York bachelors, John Durant tries to keep his apartment presentable — just in case he should ever bring home a future Mrs. Durant. He shares the fifth-floor walk-up with three of his buddies, but the place is tidy and he never forgets to water the plants.

The one thing that Mr. Durant worries might spook a female guest is his most recent purchase: a three-foot-tall refrigerated meat locker that sits in a corner of his living room. That is where he keeps his organ meat and deer ribs.

Mr. Durant, 26, who works in online advertising, is part of a small New York subculture whose members seek good health through a selective return to the habits of their Paleolithic ancestors.

Or as he and some of his friends describe themselves, they are cavemen.

The caveman lifestyle, in Mr. Durant’s interpretation, involves eating large quantities of meat and then fasting between meals to approximate the lean times that his distant ancestors faced between hunts. Vegetables and fruit are fine, but he avoids foods like bread that were unavailable before the invention of agriculture. Mr. Durant believes the human body evolved for a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, and his goal is to wean himself off what he sees as many millenniums of bad habits.

These urban cavemen also choose exercise routines focused on sprinting and jumping, to replicate how a prehistoric person might have fled from a mastodon.

In a city crowded with vegetarian restaurants and yoga studios, the cavemen defy other people’s ideas of healthy living. There is an indisputable macho component to the lifestyle.

“I didn’t want to do some faddish diet that my sister would do,” Mr. Durant said.

The caveman lifestyle in New York was once a solitary pursuit. But Mr. Durant, who looks like a cheerful Jim Morrison, with shoulder-length curly hair, has emerged over the last year as a chieftain of sorts among 10 or so other cavemen. He has cooked communal dinners in his apartment on East 90th Street and taught others to make jerky from his meat locker.

The tribe is not indigenous to New York. Several followers of the lifestyle took up the practice after researching health concerns online and discovering descriptions of so-called paleolithic diets and exercise programs followed by people around the country and in Europe. The group’s lone woman, Melissa McEwen, 23, was searching for a treatment for stomach troubles. She started reading the blog of a 72-year-old retired economics professor who lives in Utah, Arthur De Vany.

Mr. De Vany’s blog promotes what he calls Evolutionary Fitness http://www.arthurdevany.com/ (http://www.arthurdevany.com/). Like his disciples in New York, he believes that ancient humans could perform physical feats that would awe the gym rats of today.

His followers believe that he too is capable of fearsome feats. When Mr. Durant told a gathering of New York cavemen that he had seen Mr. De Vany at a seminar in Las Vegas, Matthew Sanocki, 34, asked if Mr. De Vany looked as muscular in the flesh as in pictures on his blog.

“He looks great,” Mr. Durant said. “You feel like he could, at a moment’s notice, charge at you and trample you.”

Already, the New York cavemen are getting attention from the patriarchs of the paleo movement. One such figure, Erwan Le Corre, a Frenchman whom the magazine Men’s Health  said “may rank as one of the most all-around physically fit men on the planet,” stopped by Mr. Durant’s while visiting the city in December. The men sealed their friendship with what both described as a bare-chested — and in Mr. Le Corre’s case, barefoot — run across the Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridges on a frigid night.

Mr. Le Corre, 38, who once made soap for a living, promotes what he calls “mouvement naturel” at exercise retreats in West Virginia and elsewhere. His workouts include scooting around the underbrush on all fours, leaping between boulders, playing catch with stones, and other activities at which he believes early man excelled. These are the “primal, essential skills that I believe everyone should have,” he said in an interview.

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Loren Cordain, a professor at Colorado State University and the author of “The Paleo Diet,” links the movement to a 1985 New England Journal of Medicine  article, which proclaimed that the “diet of our remote ancestors may be a reference standard for modern human nutrition.”

Another source of paleo converts is CrossFit, a fitness program known for grueling workouts combining weightlifting and gymnastics. CrossFit trainers, who teach at more than 1,200 gyms and other affiliates across the country, generally encourage clients to follow either a caveman diet or the Zone diet, which requires tracking calories. “Some of the gyms have hardcore paleo folks, and if you’re a member of that gym then you’re paleo, while other gyms are hardcore Zone,” said Anthony Budding, who manages the content on CrossFit.com (http://CrossFit.com).

Experts in early humans dispute some of the tenets of latter-day paleos, including the belief that fasting is beneficial and that the body is unequipped to handle an agriculture-based diet.

Still, there is a “sharp contrast” between the strength and fitness of our distant ancestors and us, said Clark Larsen, a physical anthropologist at Ohio State University. “The male or female of 12,000 to 15,000 years ago will be considerably stronger and in better shape,” he said. Unfortunately, life was short: If you made it to age 30 or so, you had done well.

New York might seem a challenging environment for the aspiring caveman. Entire professions, oblivious to the rising and setting of the sun, toil in the glare of computer monitors. More to the point, the city has gone so far as to outlaw both hunting and gathering, at least when committed in a city park. Uprooting a plant, snatching a bird egg or trapping a squirrel in a park are misdemeanors punishable by up to 90 days of jail.

“I like New York, but it’s hard to sit in a Midtown office all day,” said Ms. McEwen, a slim brunette, who prefers the term “hunter-gatherer” to describe her lifestyle.

But the surprising consensus of the paleos is that the city is a paradise.

“New York is the only city in America where you can walk,” said Nassim Taleb, an investor who gained a measure of celebrity for his theories, described in “The Black Swan,” that extreme events can roil financial markets. “People treat walking like exercise,” he said, “but walking is how humans become humans.”

Mr. Taleb, who rejects the label “caveman” in favor of “paleo,” avoids offices (including his own) as much as he can. He prefers to think on the go. Dressed in a tweed coat and Italian loafers, this paleo man is a flâneur, sometimes walking miles a day, ranging from SoHo to 86th Street.

Instead of eating three square meals a day, many of New York’s cavemen fast intermittently, up to 36 hours at a stretch. Fasting is a topic of banter at the Union Square West apartment where Matthew Sanocki and his brother, Andrew, live and run design-related e-commerce Web sites.

“Are you going for a 24?” Matthew might ask Andrew, describing a fast by its duration in hours.

Andrew Sanocki, 38, a former Navy officer, explained that he preferred working out on an empty stomach near the end of a fast, and then following up with a large meal. This is a common caveman schedule, intended to reflect the exertion that ancient humans put into finding food. It is as if, Mr. Sanocki explained, “we’ve gone out and killed something, and now we have to eat it.”

Another caveman trick involves donating blood frequently. The idea is that various hardships might have occasionally left ancient humans a pint short. Asked when he last gave blood, Andrew Sanocki said it had been three months. He and his brother looked at each other. “We’re due,” Andrew said.

Most of the cavemen at Mr. Durant’s gatherings are lean and well-muscled, and have glowing skin. A few wear trim beards. Some claim that they no longer get sick. Several identify themselves as libertarians.

They regularly grumble about vegans, whom they regard as a misguided, rival tribe. But much of the conversation is spent parsing the law of the jungle. The most severe interpretations generally come from Vladimir Averbukh, a jaunty red-headed Web manager for the city who was born in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. Upon visiting Mr. Durant’s apartment for the first time, in August, Mr. Averbukh scowled at a tomato plant on his host’s roof deck.

“Cavemen don’t eat nightshades,” Mr. Averbukh, 29, said. He explained that tomatoes are part of the nightshade family, arguing that they are native to the New World and could not have been part of humanity’s earliest diet. Mr. Durant shrugged. (Mr. Durant said later that there was nothing uncavemannish about eating tomatoes.)

Mr. Averbukh is a pre-Promethean sort of caveman. Much of his nourishment comes from grass-fed ground beef, which he eats raw. In a bow to the times, he sometimes uses a fork.

The other cavemen in New York find Mr. Averbukh’s preference for raw beef a little strange.

“I draw the line at sushi,” Andrew Sanocki said. “Paleo man had fire, didn’t he?”

Beyond Mr. Durant’s tribe, it is likely that other New Yorkers are practicing a milder, diet-focused version of the lifestyle. An Upper East Side physician, Grant Macaulay, said he has recommended the diet to hundreds of his patients, and sends them to Barnes & Noble to buy a copy of Mr. Cordain’s “Paleo Diet.”

But these computer-savvy cavemen are not interested in living off the grid, like others who share their ambivalence toward the indoor life. And their eating and exercise habits aside, the cavemen say they have no nostalgia for the prehistoric world.

Mr. Averbukh, who drives around town in a red Smart Car, said the thought of “throwing yourself in the forest with a stick and seeing how long you survive” held no appeal.

The cavemen are happy in the modern world, they say, but simply want to regain the fortitude that they attribute to their ancient ancestors.

“The problem is that as soon as we get out of our temperature-controlled environments, we’re weak,” Mr. Durant said. “Where’s that wildness that allowed humans to flourish throughout history?”

With this view of humanity’s past, what does Mr. Durant see in his future? One idea is a restaurant called B.C. or Wild. Just in case he develops the right business model, Mr. Durant has bought the domain name hunter-gatherer.com.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 11, 2010, 02:10:04 pm
Hi, Paul,
So, are we supposed to post our progress on a weekly basis? So far I have gone 5% towards my goal (that sounds better than I lost half a pound). To achieve this, I just worked out four times on the elliptical, lifted weights once, went to a rock climbing class, gave up alcohol, skipped meals, went ice climbing, and hiked with a 160-ft rope around my neck!! For some reason I have the hardest time losing weight no matter how hard I try! But, I'll continue thanks to this thread and the encouragement/cameraderie of my fellow BetterMostians!!

Add: Just read the Paleo diet article. Those cavemen would be right at home here in the Rocky Mountains! Want to know what they call chicken in Wyoming? Vegetarian food!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 11, 2010, 02:26:31 pm
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“New York is the only city in America where you can walk,” said Nassim Taleb.

Not true! Philadelphia is a very walkable city.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 11, 2010, 02:34:08 pm
Thanks for the Paleo Diet, John.  

Hi, Paul,
So, are we supposed to post our progress on a weekly basis?

Hi, Lee.  I was suggesting that people weigh themselves on a weekly basis and keep a little journal.  However, it's welcome but not necessary to post your progress until one month.  I'll invited participants to update their progress on Monday, February 1.

Nice to hear you're on your way, Lee.  

Not true! Philadelphia is a very walkable city.

So's Boston!  I know, I do it all the time.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 11, 2010, 02:43:07 pm
Not true! Philadelphia is a very walkable city.

I totally agree!!  I love walking in Philly!  So many cute neighborhoods to explore.  And, I used to do almost all my errands by foot rather than in my car.  I used to walk all the time when I lived in Philly... a ton more than I do now that I live in Pittsburgh.

I miss going for walks in Philly.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 11, 2010, 02:46:59 pm
Here's today's tip for the non-Paleo crowd.

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Instead of salad dressing, try a squeeze of lemon.  Many store-bought salad dressings are full of fat and sugar (and other things too fierce to mention). 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 11, 2010, 02:59:18 pm
Here's today's tip for the non-Paleo crowd.

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Instead of salad dressing, try a squeeze of lemon.  Many store-bought salad dressings are full of fat and sugar (and other things too fierce to mention). 

That's a good suggestion Paul.  I love salads with fresh lemon juice. Acutally I often will squeeze the lemon into a little bit of olive oil and add some crushed garlic and a dash of salt.  Totally delicious!  And, I firmly believe that olive oil is very healthy.



Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 11, 2010, 03:01:02 pm
I agree, but I add a drizzle of good olive oil. It's not completely unfattening, but it's good for you, and you need some healthy fat.

Today's breakfast recipe: egg and arugula wraps.

Spray skillet with cooking spray and heat to medium. Throw in a big handful of arugula and about a teaspoon of homemade vinaigrette. Toss around for about 30 seconds, until very lightly wilted. Remove to a plate. Respray pan with cooking spray. Add two scrambled eggs and cook. When almost done, add 1/8 cup of shredded 2% cheese. Meanwhile, heat a whole-wheat tortilla for 20 seconds in the microwave.

Lay tortilla on plate. Add arugula and egg mixture. Salt and pepper as desired. Roll up. Yum!


A, your post just came in. Great minds!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 11, 2010, 03:01:57 pm
San Francisco's also great for walking.

I will probably be out of town on February 1st, but I MIGHT be able to report to you my progress in person!! I'll tell you more via PM.

One thing that's inhibiting my progress that Meryl touched on earlier is stress. This fall I was very active and didn't overeat, but because I was majorly stressed out most of the time, I lost ground in the fitness area. Stress causes cortisol to be released into your bloodstream and that tells your body to add weight and conserve energy. It also makes you very tired and you can't have a good fitness regime when you're alway tired.

Last week was relatively stress free until Sunday when I was at home. I always find being at home very stressful. This time, my teenage son was just being himself, and by the end of the afternoon, my nerves were shot!! I wanted a drink so badly, but instead I lit my new soy oil candle. Have you seen them? The soy oil is warmed and liquified by the flame. You can scoop it out with a little (included) silver spoon and put it directly on your skin and massage it in. Heavenly!! However, I welcome more stress busting tips. I think you can all guess what my second favorite stress busting activity is...hanging out here!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on January 11, 2010, 03:31:20 pm



Want to know what they call chicken in Wyoming? Vegetarian food!!


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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 11, 2010, 08:39:25 pm
I found a good way to improve my workout. For an outdoor hike, I loaded two gallon jugs of water into my backpack (total of about 25 pounds) and went about 1 1/2 miles in 33 minutes with mostly gentle but some moderate inclines/declines. My ankles hurt a little about halfway through but then I didn't notice. I was able to walk moderately fast (for me) about 3-4 steps a second. The extra weight made just walking worthwhile!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: SFEnnisSF on January 12, 2010, 08:09:00 pm
Ok, gettin' back involved in a regular gym routine startin' today!  Here we go...
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 12, 2010, 08:12:38 pm
Ok, gettin' back involved in a regular gym routine startin' today!  Here we go...

It's not easy going back after some time away.  Congrats on taking the step today! 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 12, 2010, 11:32:18 pm
It's not easy going back after some time away.  Congrats on taking the step today! 

I just keep reminding myself how much freakin' hard-earned cash I have to spend for a gym membership.  >:(  That's a powerful incentive to keep me going!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: SFEnnisSF on January 12, 2010, 11:35:52 pm
My gym is free and at work.  I ain't got no excuse!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 12, 2010, 11:42:31 pm
My gym is free and at work.  I ain't got no excuse!

We've got one of those, too, and I could work out there, but before I could use it, I'd have to jump through hoops of some kind of physical assessment (presumably so I don't die of a heart attack on company property), I'd have to stay late--and take public transit home after rush hour  :-\ --and it wouldn't be accessible on weekends, and I'd be working out surrounded by middle-aged women--instead of by the cute and hot gay men and boys who frequent the gym in my neighborhood.  ;D  The way I see it, if you're gonna work out, you might as well have nice scenery while you're doing it.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: mariez on January 13, 2010, 08:28:33 am
That's a good suggestion Paul.  I love salads with fresh lemon juice. Acutally I often will squeeze the lemon into a little bit of olive oil and add some crushed garlic and a dash of salt.  Totally delicious!  And, I firmly believe that olive oil is very healthy.

That's exactly what I do, Amanda!  I love the taste of lemon and  I use fresh lemon juice a lot while cooking - it gives a nice fresh zing to just about everything.

There was some talk about candied ginger a few pages back, and last night Alton Brown made some on his "Good Eats" show on the Food Network.  Looked pretty easy - and delicious, and the reviews for his recipe are great:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/candied-ginger-recipe/index.html (http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/candied-ginger-recipe/index.html)

Candied Ginger
 
Recipe courtesy Alton Brown, 2008

Show: Good EatsEpisode: Ginger: Rise of the Rhizome

Rated: 5 stars out of 5Rate itRead users' reviews (15)

Cook Time:1 hr 0 min
Level: Easy
Yield: about 1 pound
Prep15 min Inactive Prep-- Cook1 hr 0 min Total:1 hr 15 min

Ingredients
Nonstick spray
1 pound fresh ginger root
5 cups water
Approximately 1 pound granulated sugar

Directions:

Spray a cooling rack with nonstick spray and set it in a half sheet pan lined with parchment.

Peel the ginger root and slice into 1/8-inch thick slices using a mandoline. Place into a 4-quart saucepan with the water and set over medium-high heat. Cover and cook for 35 minutes or until the ginger is tender.

Transfer the ginger to a colander to drain, reserving 1/4 cup of the cooking liquid. Weigh the ginger and measure out an equal amount of sugar. Return the ginger and 1/4 cup water to the pan and add the sugar. Set over medium-high heat and bring to a boil, stirring frequently. Reduce the heat to medium and cook, stirring frequently, until the sugar syrup looks dry, has almost evaporated and begins to recrystallize, approximately 20 minutes. Transfer the ginger immediately to the cooling rack and spread to separate the individual pieces. Once completely cool, store in an airtight container for up to 2 weeks. Save the sugar that drops beneath the cooling rack and use to top ginger snaps, sprinkled over ice cream or to sweeten coffee.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on January 13, 2010, 02:03:50 pm


We needed a study?  ::)
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Calorie Postings No Match for Holiday Gluttony

By ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS
Published: January 13, 2010


When a study on New Yorkers’ eating habits was released last week, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, city health officials and the report’s authors focused on what appeared to be a triumph of government policy: After the city began requiring restaurant chains to post calories, customers ordered lighter food.

But the study also revealed a stronger trend, one that speaks to the weight of human nature: Around Thanksgiving and Christmas, New Yorkers seemed to lose all control. Statistically speaking, they pigged out.

The gluttony response detected by the study, which looked only at what New Yorkers were buying from Starbucks, may not surprise people who have eaten their way through Thanksgiving dinners and multiple office parties.

Then there was the New Year’s effect: While the average customer did buy lighter food from Starbucks after the calorie posting law took effect on April 1, 2008, the calorie drop was even greater right after Jan. 1, 2009.

To those with a more psychological than statistical bent, like weight-loss specialists, food industry analysts and, yes, the Starbucks customers who are the guinea pigs in all this, the study sums up the resilience of the human spirit in the face of good government, the persistent urge to eat, drink and be merry, to make New Year’s resolutions and then break them with impunity, and to go on yo-yo diets, despite the best-laid plans of the nanny state.

“I’ve always known that seasonability is more important than anything else,” said Harry Balzer, vice president of the NPD Group, a consumer marketing research company, who has been watching the way people eat for 30 years. “If we did what we say we do, we’d be a thin nation. We like food, and food has a place in our lives at different times in our lives.”

As reliable as, well, winter, spring, summer and fall, the eating season begins at Halloween (soup consumption soars in the fall) and peaks around New Year’s, Mr. Balzer said. The dieting season, he said, begins “sometime after the Super Bowl, and they keep making the Super Bowl later and later,” but people still indulge in chocolate for Valentine’s Day and begin seriously cutting calories only in March, as they contemplate stripping down for summer and beach wear. (The study, conducted by Stanford University researchers, showed the calorie drop occurring before the Super Bowl, suggesting that Starbucks customers do not set their body clocks by the football calendar.)

Starbucks gave the researchers access to millions of receipts encompassing every transaction in New York, Boston and Philadelphia from Jan. 1, 2008, to Feb. 28, 2009.

Before the law took effect, customers buying sandwiches, muffins or snacks from one of New York City’s 222 Starbucks shops ordered items with roughly the same number of calories as did Starbucks customers in Boston and Philadelphia.

After the law took effect, New York customers ordered 14 percent fewer calories from food than before — either by buying less food or lower-fat food — and came in below Boston and Philadelphia, where there was no calorie posting. (There was no appreciable reduction in calories from lattes, caramel macchiatos and other drinks, the core of Starbucks’ business. Over all, the average New York customer walked away from the counter with 6 percent fewer calories.)

As the year went on, New Yorkers gradually began ordering higher-calorie foods, but remained below the other two cities, peaking around Thanksgiving and Christmas. Around Christmas and New Year’s, New Yorkers were once again consuming as many calories in Starbucks food as Philadelphians or Bostonians.

“One interpretation is that it’s the holidays, so you cut yourself some slack and you don’t really worry about it,” said Alan Sorensen, an associate professor of economics and strategic management at Stanford who was a co-author of the study. “Another, given our study design, could be that you just get a different type of customer during the holidays, but I don’t think that’s the explanation. It’s more likely something about consumer psychology.”

To show how ingrained eating habits were, one of his Stanford co-authors, Phillip Leslie, suggested putting the word “calories” into Google Trends, which tracks the words people enter in Google’s search field. Up popped year after year of graphs that looked a lot like the one in the Starbucks study.

“I think it’s hilarious,” Dr. Leslie said. Mr. Balzer, the marketing analyst, noted that similar graphs result from search terms like crockpot, soup and especially recipes.

That pattern can have a long-term impact, said Dr. Marina Kurian, medical director of the New York University program for surgical weight loss. Over the course of a year, she said, people typically gain a pound, despite dieting, and over a decade, that adds up to 10 unwanted pounds.

“We think, maybe wrongly, that we’re going to lose that weight gain by dieting in the new year,” she said.

Starbucks, too, is aware of seasonal imperatives, and so it offers the Pumpkin Spice Latte in the fall, Cranberry Bliss Bar in December, and 90-calorie beverages in January, “because customers are thinking about getting the new year off to a good start,” said Sanja Gould, a spokeswoman.

Some customers interviewed at the Starbucks at Broadway and West 95th Street in Manhattan this week said that the calorie postings had changed their buying habits. Others were unmoved.

“Aren’t the holidays like a good way to celebrate gluttony?” asked Erich Fuchs, a consultant to nonprofit organizations, sipping a coffee, black, insouciantly. He said he bought Starbucks scones for his partner, but preferred home cooking for himself, and never worried about calorie counts, only portion size.

A friend sitting across from him, Patrick Stucky, nursed a tea and said he never made New Year’s resolutions, explaining, “I think I’m perfect the way I am.”
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 13, 2010, 02:13:47 pm
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The dieting season, he said, begins “sometime after the Super Bowl, and they keep making the Super Bowl later and later,” but people still indulge in chocolate for Valentine’s Day and begin seriously cutting calories only in March, as they contemplate stripping down for summer and beach wear.

In New Orleans, the dieting season doesn't begin until Ash Wednesday. Through Mardi Gras, people bring king cakes in to work every day, and there are as many parties as there are around Christmas. It's like extending the weight-gain season by a couple of months.  :P >:(

Personally, though, I think the tendency to forget about counting calories and indulge in treats for a couple of months each year can be a healthy one. Mentally healthy, anyway.



Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 13, 2010, 03:23:34 pm
In New Orleans, the dieting season doesn't begin until Ash Wednesday. Through Mardi Gras, people bring king cakes in to work every day, and there are as many parties as there are around Christmas. It's like extending the weight-gain season by a couple of months.  :P >:(

Personally, though, I think the tendency to forget about counting calories and indulge in treats for a couple of months each year can be a healthy one. Mentally healthy, anyway.

That reminds me, it's almost Fastnacht season.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 13, 2010, 06:00:15 pm
I lit my new soy oil candle. Have you seen them? The soy oil is warmed and liquified by the flame. You can scoop it out with a little (included) silver spoon and put it directly on your skin and massage it in. Heavenly!! However, I welcome more stress busting tips. I think you can all guess what my second favorite stress busting activity is...hanging out here!!

Here's where you can find these wonderful soy massage oil candles: http://www.magicfairycandles.com/ (http://www.magicfairycandles.com/)

Still need more stress-busting tips!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 13, 2010, 07:05:57 pm
Anybody got any ideas or tactics to share for dealing with feelings of hunger?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 13, 2010, 08:08:38 pm
Drinking water helps me when I'm hungry.

Or keeping something low cal around to snack on when hunger hits.  Dry cereal, fresh berries, a slice of cheese, chew gum
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 13, 2010, 08:11:18 pm
Drinking water helps me when I'm hungry.

Or keeping something low cal around to snack on when hunger hits.  Dry cereal, fresh berries, a slice of cheese, chew gum

For me, it works best to choose something that's not just low-cal but low-carb. Once I start eating something like dry cereal, I could go on and on -- especially this time of year.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 13, 2010, 08:12:46 pm
Anybody got any ideas or tactics to share for dealing with feelings of hunger?

Hunger pangs are great, Jeff! That's one way you know you are really making progress when you feel that wonderful emptiness! But, if you have hunger pangs at an inappropriate time or if they wake you up at night, you need to change your diet slightly. Eat more frequent smaller meals. Alternatively, eat a little fewer carbs, which are digested most quickly, and a little more protein. Add a little more fat to your main meal, not saturated fat, but perhaps a little flaxseed or olive oil mixed in.

I'm assuming you're talking about hunger pangs in your stomach, not cravings, which is a whole 'nother thing.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 13, 2010, 08:32:24 pm
For me, it works best to choose something that's not just low-cal but low-carb. Once I start eating something like dry cereal, I could go on and on -- especially this time of year.

Oh, I know what you mean.....what works for me is measuring out what I want to eat, and then putting it away.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 13, 2010, 09:53:45 pm
Hunger pangs are great, Jeff! That's one way you know you are really making progress when you feel that wonderful emptiness!

I'm sorry but my personal experience does not bear this out.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 14, 2010, 12:44:17 am
I'm sorry but my personal experience does not bear this out.

I should have added "your mileage may differ."
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 14, 2010, 06:44:53 am
Hello dieting BetterMostians!

Hope that everyone is doing well with their endeavors.

Tomorrow my coworkers are taking me out to lunch, and asked where I would like to go.  I told them just to the local diner, because I know they have good salads there.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 14, 2010, 04:30:52 pm
Anybody got any ideas or tactics to share for dealing with feelings of hunger?

Try fruit. Or a raw carrot. It has the advantage that you have to chew it a lot, and it takes a longer time to eat it.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 14, 2010, 04:54:46 pm
Try fruit. Or a raw carrot. It has the advantage that you have to chew it a lot, and it takes a longer time to eat it.

On the other hand, I find that if I include some protein and fat at meals I can go for quite a while before getting hungry again in between. For example, if I've got a strenuous day or a late lunch ahead, I make sure to have eggs for breakfast instead of cereal or oatmeal.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 14, 2010, 05:39:21 pm


Lookey here what Kerry posted in the komedy thread:


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o126/kez4oz/Album%201/F27.jpg)


Maybe something we could all use?



 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 14, 2010, 05:53:54 pm
Diet water!  It has half the calories of regular water!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 14, 2010, 06:16:15 pm
Diet water!  It has half the calories of regular water!

Not to mention the rich flavour!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 14, 2010, 08:00:44 pm
A: Would you like some water?

B: Oh, it looks really delicious. But no thanks. These jeans are getting awfully tight.

A: No, this is DIET water! I've been drinking it for a month, and look -- I'm wearing my skinny jeans!

B: DIET water? But isn't it kind of bland and flavorless?

A: It's delicious! It only tastes fattening. (Takes a big refreshing gulp) Mmm-mmm ...

B: Oh, in that case, fill up my glass! I'm going to slim down - with Diet Water!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: mariez on January 14, 2010, 08:51:49 pm
 :laugh:  So that's my problem - I've been drinking that damn regular water! 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 14, 2010, 11:15:04 pm
Diet water!  It has half the calories of regular water!

Or maybe it's "half the hydrogen of regular water."  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: mariez on January 15, 2010, 10:49:30 am
Okay, fellow spinach lovers - here's a Spinach Cookie recipe!   ;D  (Although the 80 gms of butter and 60 gms of sugar doesn't sound very diet friendly - even though I don't know what that is in cups or ounces)  :-\

http://notecook.com/desserts/cookies/spinach-or-beetroot-cookies/ (http://notecook.com/desserts/cookies/spinach-or-beetroot-cookies/)

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z196/mariez65/spincach-cookies_1.jpg)


Spinach (or Beetroot) Cookies

Preparation: 20 minutes
Cooking: 10 minutes
Serves: 30
Calories/Serving: 42

Ingredients
◦80 gm butter
◦60 gm powdered sugar
◦50 gm wheat flour
◦60 gm plain flour
◦2 tbsp raw spinach puree or
◦2 tbsp raw beetroot puree

Method

1.Cream butter and sugar with an electric beater, till it becomes light and fluffy. Add spinach or beetroot puree to the above mixture and beat well.
2.Sift wheat flour and plain flour. Add slowly to the mixture. Mix well with a spoon to get a soft dough consistency.
3.Line a cookie sheet or a baking tray with aluminum foil. Grease foil. Fill the cookie mixture in the piping bag. Pipe the desired shape. If you like simply put flattened balls.
4.Bake in a preheated oven at 180 degree Celsius for 10 minutes. Let it cool for 15 minutes in the oven. Leave on the tray till it comes to room temperature.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2010, 11:36:31 am
Aaack!  :o  Here's something that's definitely hazardous to diets: I just found out that it's Girl Scout Cookie time!  :o
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: optom3 on January 15, 2010, 02:16:07 pm
Guaranteed weight loss,   come live my life, eat all you want and then burn it all off and some !!!!

It works for me ! Mind you it does wreak havoc with your sanity !!!!

Result, I can now wear an XXXXS  straight jacket !
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Lynne on January 15, 2010, 04:40:12 pm
Guaranteed weight loss,   come live my life, eat all you want and then burn it all off and some !!!!

It works for me ! Mind you it does wreak havoc with your sanity !!!!

Result, I can now wear an XXXXS  straight jacket !

 ;) :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 15, 2010, 05:25:57 pm
Okay, fellow spinach lovers - here's a Spinach Cookie recipe!   ;D  (Although the 80 gms of butter and 60 gms of sugar doesn't sound very diet friendly - even though I don't know what that is in cups or ounces)  :-\

http://notecook.com/desserts/cookies/spinach-or-beetroot-cookies/ (http://notecook.com/desserts/cookies/spinach-or-beetroot-cookies/)

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z196/mariez65/spincach-cookies_1.jpg)


Spinach (or Beetroot) Cookies

Preparation: 20 minutes
Cooking: 10 minutes
Serves: 30
Calories/Serving: 42

Ingredients
◦80 gm butter
◦60 gm powdered sugar
◦50 gm wheat flour
◦60 gm plain flour
◦2 tbsp raw spinach puree or
◦2 tbsp raw beetroot puree

Method

1.Cream butter and sugar with an electric beater, till it becomes light and fluffy. Add spinach or beetroot puree to the above mixture and beat well.
2.Sift wheat flour and plain flour. Add slowly to the mixture. Mix well with a spoon to get a soft dough consistency.
3.Line a cookie sheet or a baking tray with aluminum foil. Grease foil. Fill the cookie mixture in the piping bag. Pipe the desired shape. If you like simply put flattened balls.
4.Bake in a preheated oven at 180 degree Celsius for 10 minutes. Let it cool for 15 minutes in the oven. Leave on the tray till it comes to room temperature.

OMG!!!!!!     :o :o :o


Chuckie! You seen this??
 
 ;) ;D :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 15, 2010, 09:51:16 pm
Well, it's been an interesting three days for me, friends, which has included a 3.5 mile strenuous hike, a rock climbing class, snowshoeing above 10,000 ft in elevation, and, to top it off, ice climbing!! I'm looking forward to weighing in after all this, but am too tired to do so, tonite!! Check in with you, manana!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 15, 2010, 10:28:47 pm
Guaranteed weight loss,   come live my life, eat all you want and then burn it all off and some !!!!

It works for me ! Mind you it does wreak havoc with your sanity !!!!

Result, I can now wear an XXXXS  straight jacket !

I've had a stressful past year and a half or so. Not as stressful as yours, by far {{{Fiona}}} but by my usual standards stressful: my mom died, I got divorced, lived with my soon-to-be-ex in a house that was on the market for a year, finally sold it at a $50,000 loss, bought a new house, moved to a different state, am underemployed and can't find a job, am a single mom of two challenging teenage boys, one of whom suffered a chronic debilitating stomach ailment and also had his bike stolen -- plus a couple of other things I don't even want to get into on the internet!  ;)

Result: Gained 10 to 20 pounds, depending on when you start measuring. My strait jacket is now a size 12.

Some of us react to stress by eating even more. When times are tough, food is the one thing you know will be comforting and enjoyable -- even if you also know that gaining weight will only make you feel worse in the long run.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: louisev on January 15, 2010, 11:12:13 pm

Alas no spinach for me, but I do make carrot cake, full o'vitamins!!!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on January 17, 2010, 02:04:24 am
Count me in, I definitely need to lose at least 60 pounds.  I had abdoninal surgery late October to repair 2 hernias and I lost a lot of weight.  I'm not able to eat as much as I used to and I'm still losing, but not as much as I would like.  Back in the 80s I lost 110 pounds following the Atkins (low carb) plan.  It is the only thing that seems to work for me and I'm thinking about going back on it.  I've heard that low carb, high protein diets are bad for you, but when I got pregnant (bear with me) and had prenatal exams, and all that, my doctor told me that I was in perfect health and there was not a drop of sugar in my blood.  I only gained the weight back after I had my daughter and felt compelled to give up the Atkins way of life.  I also couldn't keep up the level of exercise, being a busy new mother who worked outside the home.  I'm enjoying all of the tips here, my fellow Brokies.  I've read that including green tea supplements and drinking plenty of green tea will help with weight loss.  I'm taking 900 mgs of green tea supplements and they seem to be helping.  I may try to cut my carb intake next week and see what happens.  I'm doing walk at home tapes and am walking to and from work.  I'm preparing myself for Tyebo(sp?) which helped me tremendously in the past.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss ThreadStarted by Amanda: http
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 17, 2010, 09:51:22 am
Welcome to our group, friend!

That is just too much stress, Katherine and Fiona. Nobody should be asked to bear that much. Hopefully, stress comes in clumps separated by stress-free periods. We have several threads on BetterMost devoted to stress management, including one started by Amanda (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13012.0/all.html) and a poll started by Dottie (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,13473.0/all.html).
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 17, 2010, 11:05:07 am
I've heard that low carb, high protein diets are bad for you, but when I got pregnant (bear with me) and had prenatal exams, and all that, my doctor told me that I was in perfect health and there was not a drop of sugar in my blood. 

I consider simple carbs worse for you than healthy fat. That is, I think we're better off eating fatty nuts or olive oil than sugar or white bread. (The doctor who invented the South Beach Diet, which is very low-carb, says that if you must eat white bread, like in the bread basket at a restaurant, at the very least you should dip it in olive oil to slow down digestion!) And I know it is possible to lose breathtaking amounts of weight quickly by avoiding carbs, though in my case the weight has come right back.

But I'm also leery of extremely low-carb diets that encourage people to eat all kinds of fatty meats and cheeses but to avoid fruit and whole grains. I don't think that's healthy in the long run.

So when I'm watching my diet, I try to eat one or two low-carb meals a day. For example, I might have eggs for breakfast with vegetables and maybe a bit of cheese, but no toast. Or I'll have a salad for lunch with no bread. What carbs I do eat must be fruit or whole grains. And I'm trying to cut out sugar and sugar substitutes altogether -- so bye-bye, beloved Weight Watchers chocolate-caramel 1-point mini bars!

Quote
I'm preparing myself for Tyebo(sp?) which helped me tremendously in the past.

What's Tyebo?  ???



Welcome to our group, friend!

That is just too much stress, Katherine and Fiona. Nobody should be asked to bear that much.

Thank you, FRiend. I feel guilty complaining about stress, though. I do have some problems, but they're all pretty first-world problems. At least I'm not wandering around corpse-strewn streets looking for my loved ones.

I'll check out those threads!


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 17, 2010, 11:14:29 am
Welcome, Marie.  I'll add you to the list. 

Tell us more about Tae Bo--I've heard of it, but don't know much about it.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 17, 2010, 11:26:56 am
Speaking of Adkins, you don't have to resort to a caveman diet!  Think seafood.

I'm lucky, as there's a great year-round fish market here on the Cape.

Here's last night's dinner, with nary a carb in sight.

Cocktail:  one little martini with gorgeous freshly smoked tiny bay scallops, celery and English cucumber spears.  

Raw oysters on the half-shell--yum.

Fresh tuna seared in a dry pan at very high heat, 30 seconds a side, very rare, with a ginger-sesame-soy sauce.

Steamed asparagus.

Clementine for dessert (all right, a little carb).

Then I watched "Ned Kelly" for the first time.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on January 17, 2010, 02:29:00 pm
I consider simple carbs worse for you than healthy fat. That is, I think we're better off eating fatty nuts or olive oil than sugar or white bread. (The doctor who invented the South Beach Diet, which is very low-carb, says that if you must eat white bread, like in the bread basket at a restaurant, at the very least you should dip it in olive oil to slow down digestion!) And I know it is possible to lose breathtaking amounts of weight quickly by avoiding carbs, though in my case the weight has come right back.

But I'm also leery of extremely low-carb diets that encourage people to eat all kinds of fatty meats and cheeses but to avoid fruit and whole grains. I don't think that's healthy in the long run.

So when I'm watching my diet, I try to eat one or two low-carb meals a day. For example, I might have eggs for breakfast with vegetables and maybe a bit of cheese, but no toast. Or I'll have a salad for lunch with no bread. What carbs I do eat must be fruit or whole grains. And I'm trying to cut out sugar and sugar substitutes altogether -- so bye-bye, beloved Weight Watchers chocolate-caramel 1-point mini bars!

What's Tyebo?  ???



Thank you, FRiend. I feel guilty complaining about stress, though. I do have some problems, but they're all pretty first-world problems. At least I'm not wandering around corpse-strewn streets looking for my loved ones.

I'll check out those threads!




Hi, K!  Your approach sounds very sensible.  There is no going back on the Atkins plan; you stop eating low carb and the pounds will return, and rather quickly.  Dr. Atkins says it is a way of eating that you have to adopt forever.  He mentions people's diets during a time when there was no bread, etc.  And he says that Inuit people eat a low carb diet and seem to thrive.  But it is very hard to live the Atkins way.  I believe I did it so easliy in the 80s because I had a specific goal in mind and I resolved to lose the weight no matter what.

Tae Bo (thanks for the correct spelling, Southendmd) is a method developed by Billie Blanks - a martial arts expert, I believe - that incorporates kick boxing with aroebics.  Right now I can only manage the intro/beginners tape.  The tapes are a tremendous help to me when I want to lose, but I have to work my way up the series.  I read about a woman who lost 20 pounds in one week by exercising to the advanced tapes once a day.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on January 17, 2010, 02:36:43 pm
Speaking of Adkins, you don't have to resort to a caveman diet!  Think seafood.

I'm lucky, as there's a great year-round fish market here on the Cape.

Here's last night's dinner, with nary a carb in sight.

Cocktail:  one little martini with gorgeous freshly smoked tiny bay scallops, celery and English cucumber spears.  

Raw oysters on the half-shell--yum.

Fresh tuna seared in a dry pan at very high heat, 30 seconds a side, very rare, with a ginger-sesame-soy sauce.

Steamed asparagus.

Clementine for dessert (all right, a little carb).

Then I watched "Ned Kelly" for the first time.


Yes, I'm in an area famous for seafood as well (SF has great fish and seafood markets, as does Oakland) and we even have all -you- can- eat places that serve delicious seafood (all you can eat!!!) at a modest price.  I love your dinner menu!  Last night I had take-out roasted duck from my favorite chinese take-out resturant along with steamed mixed veggies, but I blew it with the pork buns and shrimp dumplings.  I can't resist dim sum, even though I don't believe those bits of deliciousness are that bad?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Kelda on January 17, 2010, 06:29:31 pm
:laugh:

I remember that!!!

I used to have a shirt that I would wear when I was working out.  It said on it:

"There's a thin man in me screaming to get out.  I ate him!"

hahahahahhahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Kelda on January 17, 2010, 06:36:03 pm
Both of these are great ideas!

Cabbage is another mostly harmless veggie that can be mixed with mashed potatoes. The Irish call it colcannon, though I think they add cheddar to improve the taste. ;)
Speaking of carbs, here's a tip for those who love mashed potatoes but don't love the carbs: Mix mashed potatoes with mashed turnips or cauliflower, about 50/50. Those veggies are lower on the glycemic index, and will actually make the 'tates more delicious. Add a little butter or olive oil, low-fat milk or sour cream, chives or garlic.

Leftovers? Form them into patties, coat them in breadcrumbs or the like, a little parmesan, and lightly sautee.




Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Kelda on January 17, 2010, 06:45:45 pm
Count me in guys. My new regime starts tomorrow. Been back at home a week so time to get back into real life.

I'd like to get back to the weight I was just after I did my trek round Cuba, and just as I met Callum.... I was still a little over the recommended weight but  felt good and I think to get back to this would be really good.

I've put on about 28lbs since then. I guess thats what happiness does for you eh!?

So it's 28 lbs for me.

To do this... its back to just doing a lot of walking and eating more sensibly.. that did the trick the last time (before Cuba) and I lost 4 stone.

I'm also doing pilates every Wednesday lunchtime.



Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Lynne on January 17, 2010, 07:18:10 pm
...
Some of us react to stress by eating even more. When times are tough, food is the one thing you know will be comforting and enjoyable -- even if you also know that gaining weight will only make you feel worse in the long run.

Very true, Katherine...in addition to bad times, food is also my companion for happy, celebratory times.   :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 17, 2010, 07:26:52 pm
Welcome aboard friend Kelda! Now don't get too carried away...I want to be able to recognize you when I meet you in June! But even with your svelte body, I'm sure I will recognize your lovely face, so get as carried away as you want! Another plus will be dining with you on lovely Scottish food (which I'm sure I will love) and tramping around the moors and lochs with you or wherever our hearts will lead us!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2010, 08:22:16 pm
Very true, Katherine...in addition to bad times, food is also my companion for happy, celebratory times.   :-\

Sure enough! Plus so much of socializing seems to revolve around food and drink. Most people I know, what do they do when they want to get together with friends? Go to a bar for cocktails, or go to a resaurant for dinner, and frequently both in the same evening. Nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't seem particularly diet friendly. For me, even if I choose smart foods in a restaurant, the portions are still larger than I would make for myself at home.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 17, 2010, 08:49:02 pm
Sure enough! Plus so much of socializing seems to revolve around food and drink. Most people I know, what do they do when they want to get together with friends? Go to a bar for cocktails, or go to a resaurant for dinner, and frequently both in the same evening. Nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't seem particularly diet friendly. For me, even if I choose smart foods in a restaurant, the portions are still larger than I would make for myself at home.  :-\

Yep, it's the curse of both alcohol and food. They elevate celebrations when times are good, and tempt insidiously when times are bad.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 17, 2010, 09:43:28 pm
Welcome to the club, Kelda!  I gotta go figure out what a stone weighs....
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2010, 11:32:28 pm
Yep, it's the curse of both alcohol and food. They elevate celebrations when times are good, and tempt insidiously when times are bad.

And either way they make us fat.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Lynne on January 17, 2010, 11:42:23 pm
Sure enough! Plus so much of socializing seems to revolve around food and drink. Most people I know, what do they do when they want to get together with friends? Go to a bar for cocktails, or go to a resaurant for dinner, and frequently both in the same evening. Nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't seem particularly diet friendly. For me, even if I choose smart foods in a restaurant, the portions are still larger than I would make for myself at home.  :-\

True, true, Jeff, my Friend.  It's not diet friendly, unless you want to drink something icky like vodka and diet coke.  And I just refuse to compromise in some places.  If I'm having a drink or a cocktail, especially paying restaurant prices, then it's not going to be gross.  I'd rather have one or two good ones than three or four gross ones.

As for the large portions, I just play it by ear.  If something is gargantuan, I immediately put half in a to-go box, and most wait-staff are super-accommodating about this.  One problem - fancy South End (read Paul - kinda places  ;)) actually serve normal person portions, so I end up with the full course.  But that's really a non-issue.  I had pumpkin and/or mushroom soups so many times this fall at a place we like, and although they were creamy and I'm sure not diet-friendly, they were very filling and satisfying so soup and some bread were really all I needed.

About cooking for one (or two) - it's not something I really know how to do well.  I grew up watching my mother cook for 12-16 people and I have trouble not doing that.  For instance, I made chicken mole last night and it served 3, today it served 2 of us again, and there's still enough for 3-4 servings.  It's a difficult thing to calibrate unless you're being super conscientious about it.  Don't get me wrong - I love having leftovers for lunch or whenever, as long as I can push myself away from the table when it's appropriate.

So that's what I've been concentrating on - listening to my body, hearing when I'm full, and reassuring myself there is plenty if I change my mind (a psych component for some reason).

So far it's working somewhat...not reporting in until the 1st but so far I think I'm heading in the right direction.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Kelda on January 18, 2010, 05:36:24 am
Welcome aboard friend Kelda! Now don't get too carried away...I want to be able to recognize you when I meet you in June! But even with your svelte body, I'm sure I will recognize your lovely face, so get as carried away as you want! Another plus will be dining with you on lovely Scottish food (which I'm sure I will love) and tramping around the moors and lochs with you or wherever our hearts will lead us!


 ;D Sounds good!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Kelda on January 18, 2010, 05:37:30 am
Welcome to the club, Kelda!  I gotta go figure out what a stone weighs....

14 pounds in every stone.. so 28 pounds.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 19, 2010, 09:50:46 pm
Hiya!

Worked out on the eliptical.  I managed to get in 60 minutes.  In that 60 minutes, I was able to get my average heart rate to 140.  I burned about 800 calories.  I "ran" almost 5 miles, which equaled 10,800 steps in total.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2010, 11:18:58 pm
It's not diet friendly, unless you want to drink something icky like vodka and diet coke.

Tell you what, when I used to tend bar for leather club functions, I could never understand why people would order vodka and Diet Coke, or, really, anything with a diet soda as a mixer. Even then I would think to myself, "For cryin' out loud, if you're gonna drink the booze, you might as well have regular soda."

Fun factoid: In those days, the Diet Coke button on the bar "gun" was still labeled with a "T"--for Tab!  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 19, 2010, 11:20:50 pm
Fun factoid: In those days, the Diet Coke button on the bar "gun" was still labeled with a "T"--for Tab!  ;D

Your age is showin', cowboy!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2010, 11:26:07 pm
Your age is showin', cowboy!

I don't mind anymore, once I realized lots of people don't get the privilege of being as old as I am.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 21, 2010, 12:41:22 am

Worked out on the eliptical.  I managed to get in 60 minutes.  In that 60 minutes, I was able to get my average heart rate to 140.  I burned about 800 calories.  I "ran" almost 5 miles, which equaled 10,800 steps in total.

I like the elliptical trainer too, Chuck. After reading your post, I realized I needed to up my workout. I had hit a plateau. However, I don't think I can do 60 minutes. I can barely do 35 minutes. It's just too boring. I did crank up the wattage to 90 today, so I was able to burn 350 calories in 35 minutes and keep my heartbeat above 120. I "ran" 8.5 miles, but they were bike miles. Then, I lifted weights and then went to my rock climbing class which is a lot of fun, but exhausting!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 22, 2010, 06:24:17 pm
How's everybody doing so far?  Reminder:  next weigh-in is Monday, February 1.

(http://www.geekologie.com/2007/10/08/animal-scale.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on January 22, 2010, 06:44:39 pm
LOL at the animal pics on the scales!!   ;D

That way, you don't have to know your actual weight, you can just say "I'm down on the duck now"!    :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 22, 2010, 07:01:47 pm
Today has been a bad day for me. It's coldish, gray, gloomy, drizzling -- always a recipe for me to seek comfort in carbs. I was craving muffins. So I made a box of blueberry muffins. True, they're Fiber One brand, so not totally unhealthy, but I've eaten five or six of them (they're quite good, but 130 calories apiece).

The weather, particularly at this time of year, has a huge influence over my appetite and eating habits.

The upside: my son and I stopped in at a little bakery, where we bought glazed donuts for him and his brother. I didn't get anything.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2010, 08:05:39 pm
Today has been a bad day for me.

Sort of the same for me. Because of the state of company finances, we didn't have a holiday party last month, so today the company threw an in-house "employee appreciation" buffet luncheon in our new auditorium/staff dining room. Oy, did I pig out on the carbs (at least I also had a salad).  :( And they weren't even particularly good-tasting carbs, either. Most of the bread-type stuff was dry. I'm sure Katherine's muffins at least tasted good!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 22, 2010, 11:56:44 pm
Today was supposed to be a rest day for me after two days of extra exertion, rock climbing, hiking, working out, and snowshoeing. Then, I took my mom with me to the rec center when I went to get my climbing certification, which means I can practice on the climbing wall anytime at no charge. At the end of it, my mom said "but I didn't get to see you climb!" So, then I went for a climb and got all sweaty. But, I enjoyed it!

Tomorrow I'm going for an ice climb, and then I'll have two or three days to do more cardio. And then, oh my brothers and sisters, no more exercises for me for three days. I have to lay off and rest up for the big one: hopefully at least one ascent of that witchy mountain in NH: the weather-maker, yes, Mount Washington, herself!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 23, 2010, 01:01:16 am
Today was a good day for me......the potential to be bad was there, as I ate out for lunch and dinner, but I only had a salad at each meal.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 23, 2010, 11:54:23 am
Good for you, friend!! Today when I woke up, I scratched my belly Ennis-wise and I discovered something that had been hidden there for many months...abs!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 23, 2010, 11:55:47 am
Well done, FRiend!  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 23, 2010, 12:03:11 pm
Good for you, friend!! Today when I woke up, I scratched my belly Ennis-wise and I discovered something that had been hidden there for many months...abs!!

I hope you didn't go on to pee in the sink. ...  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 23, 2010, 12:20:38 pm
I hope you didn't go on to pee in the sink. ...  8)

 :laugh:

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 23, 2010, 12:49:43 pm
I hope you didn't go on to pee in the sink. ...  8)


 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 26, 2010, 10:35:22 am
Five bathrooms in my house, so no sink-peeing necessary!

Well, it's almost time to update our progress reports, right, Captain Paul??
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on January 26, 2010, 02:01:37 pm
Well, it's almost time to update our progress reports, right, Captain Paul??

Captain?

Yes, make sure your scale springs are well oiled, the next weigh-in is Monday!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Kelda on January 26, 2010, 07:29:08 pm
I only weighed myself for the first time yesterday..

and I was 15 stones 4lbs... and BMI 29.7

Ugh.

My ideal weight is apparently between 9st 7 (BMI 18.5) and 12st 12 (BMI 25)

So I'd really I'd like to get to 12st 6 so losing 2st 12 which is more than I had originally said....40lbs rather than 28lbs.

I thrfore may no weigh in on Monday given Ive just weighed in now!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 26, 2010, 09:47:03 pm
Since you're younger, the weight should be fairly easy to remove, and you'll thank youself later, friend!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on January 30, 2010, 12:45:16 am
whats going on in  here.  yall losing weight me not so much big belly full of good italian food
not good for me but tastes delicious :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on January 31, 2010, 07:54:05 am
i dont weigh myself very often, only when I go to the gym if I think of it.  Maybe I should ?  Oh well my paints are not as snug around my hips and waist.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on January 31, 2010, 10:31:38 pm
Yes, make sure your scale springs are well oiled, the next weigh-in is Monday!

Tomorrow is the big day.

;D

Not sure how well I will do.  :laugh:  I've been trying to work out daily.  However, there was my birthday, Dad's birthday, and two company luncheons.

We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on January 31, 2010, 10:49:37 pm
Do you guys not weigh yourselves very often?

I weigh myself once or twice a day. True, my weight can fluctuate three or four pounds within a day. So I have to ignore those mini ups and downs. But overall, I do get a sense of how well I'm doing.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Kelda on February 01, 2010, 05:22:50 am
Wow! Once or twice a day!?

I dont have scales in my house, so no I don't.... I tend to judge by how my clothes fit.

I did pilates on Wednesday; a 10K/6mile walk on Thursday & a 10K/6mile walk on Sunday. Ive also been pretty busy at nights so havent just been spending the other nights sitting on the coach vegging.. I have been cleaning and moving stuff aorund the house..




Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on February 01, 2010, 06:26:26 am
Do you guys not weigh yourselves very often?

I used to weigh myself daily, now I do it once a week.


And it looks like I'm the first to update here, I've lost 2 pouinds.  ;D

Not stellar for a month, but at least I lost.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on February 01, 2010, 08:18:02 am
(http://health.idahostatesman.com/storyImages/0130-IH-Scales-700.jpg)

It's here!  Weigh-in time!

Remember that posting your progress is completely optional.  But we're here to support one another.  If you post your progress, I'll update the first post, next to your goal.  I'll color-code each month. 

What's working for you?  What needs improvement? 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: southendmd on February 01, 2010, 08:19:32 am
Congrats, Chuck, you early bird! 

I got a nice surprise this morning:  I lost 6 pounds!  Just hope I can keep this up.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: CellarDweller on February 01, 2010, 11:24:50 am
I got a nice surprise this morning:  I lost 6 pounds!  Just hope I can keep this up.

Congrats, Big Brother!  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Sason on February 01, 2010, 11:32:28 am
Congrats Chuck, and Wow! Paul!   :o


I weighed in this morning too.

The count ain't what I'd hoped for, I lost 1,5 kg.

Not much for a month, but at least something.

This wheight loss thing ain't never no good.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: serious crayons on February 01, 2010, 11:48:35 am
Wow! Once or twice a day!?

Sure. The scale is right there in the bathroom, so it's no big deal to step on it.

My weight this morning was down 5 pounds from what it was on Jan 1. However, both weights were artificially inflated -- today's, I think, because I went out on Saturday night and ate a bunch of junky food, including a bunch of oversalted movie popcorn. Earlier in the week, I had weighed a couple of pounds less. My weight a month ago was post-holiday weight, four pounds higher than it had been two weeks earlier or became two weeks later. In other words, my weight goes up and down by a few pounds during the course of a week, but the range is slowly dropping.

For the purpose of record-keeping here, I'm just going to say I'm down 3.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Lynne on February 01, 2010, 12:01:06 pm
Put me down for 5 lbs please. :*
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: belbbmfan on February 01, 2010, 02:15:29 pm
Okay, after 23 pages of 'should I or shouldn't I join?' I've decided to take the plunge. So sign me up please. I've reached a point where it's either shed some kilos or buy bigger clothes. Yikes!
Since my oldest daughter was born, 12 years ago, I've gained 20 pounds. I really need to stop this trend. So it's time to learn some new eating and exercising habits.

I've also signed up as a member of a 'losing weight' website, started by my health care provider. The program is quite extensive, you can get recipes and keep a diary. I now get a daily email from my 'coach' with a food tip.  :) Good advice, and the focus of this website is about getting healthy and fit, not 'I'm on a diet for the rest of my life'. I like that.

So, reading this thread has already had its effect, because the scale showed 3 pounds less than on January 1st.

Congratulations to all who had a positive result.  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 01, 2010, 02:53:31 pm
Thanks and congratulations to everyone who has posted progress!  

Welcome to the club, Fabienne!  I'll add you tout de suite!  Feel free to share your ideas too.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 02, 2010, 09:39:45 am
Okay weighed myself again today... one week after I last weighed myself an announced it here....using same set of scales in my local shop and I was....

15 stone 2lbs

So I lost 2lbs.. but I'll say thats really only 1lb as i had shoes on this time verus boots last time.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 02, 2010, 10:23:05 am
Hey, a loss is a loss!

Accept it with a smile!

 ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: mariez on February 02, 2010, 03:23:54 pm
Okay, I lost 2 lbs.  :-\  But I guess that's better than nothing, and certainly better than gaining!  Damn, 20 years ago if I wanted to drop a couple lbs. it came off so easily!

Keep up the good work, everyone!  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 02, 2010, 03:29:16 pm
Thanks Chucl, and way to go Mariez!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 08, 2010, 08:48:24 am
Checking in a little late because I was out of town last week. I lost 3.5 pounds over the month and am very satisfied with my progress! What's worked for me was eating a good breakfast every day, cutting back on carbs and alcohol, only eating when I'm hungry, and not eating after about 8 pm at night. Also, I stopped eating while doing something else like driving. On the fitness front, I made progress by carrying weight while walking, taking a rock climbing class, snowshoeing in the mountains once a week, and hiking at least 4 miles a day in wintery weather. Also, I have tried to increase my workout regimen on the elliptical training each time I work out and I have started working my upper body with weights. I'm developing a solid mental attitude about what I can achieve with this body fitness-wise and learning that I can develop more strength and stamina than I ever thought possible.

What's not working for me is continuing stress and the sedentary lifestyle that we all have to battle. It's particularly bad on Sundays when I'm either driving, sitting in church, sitting in a restaurant, or sitting somewhere else. Must change my Sunday routine!

Congratulations everybody on your progress!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 09, 2010, 02:24:01 pm
Is anyone else finding the second month more difficult? 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 09, 2010, 02:56:04 pm
[raises hand meekly]

It started out OK, with a really good weigh-in on Saturday, but this past weekend was tough. I'm getting back on the horse, though.

As my Weight Watchers teacher is fond of reminding us, it's actually better to have it be a struggle at times, to have ups and downs. You learn more that way. Essentially you're learning habits that you'll need to follow for the rest of your life. And the failures are part of the process.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 09, 2010, 03:00:46 pm
Is anyone else finding the second month more difficult? 


Uh, yeah! 

 >:(

But I'm determined to keep to this.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 09, 2010, 06:46:24 pm
Worth a try? Hmm ... well, it's not too difficult, anyway. I've got some nice fig-flavored balsamic ...

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The latest research out of Japan suggests that a daily intake of vinegar will boost your body’s ability to burn fat. Nice! The researchers fed two groups of mice a high-fat diet, supplementing one group with a daily dose of the main chemical in vinegar. The group that consumed the acetic acid developed less body fat than the ones that didn’t have any. In a follow-up study with human subjects, three teaspoons of vinegar diluted in two cups of water daily experienced similar results after 12 weeks. Go ahead, toss your salad with vinegar instead of those creamy dressings and sprinkle a healthy dose of it onto your steamed veggies. Then burn baby burn!

http://kerrizane.com/generation-jones/diet-tricks/piss-and-vinegar/ (http://kerrizane.com/generation-jones/diet-tricks/piss-and-vinegar/)

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 09, 2010, 07:41:39 pm
Worth a try? Hmm ... well, it's not too difficult, anyway. I've got some nice fig-flavored balsamic ...

http://kerrizane.com/generation-jones/diet-tricks/piss-and-vinegar/ (http://kerrizane.com/generation-jones/diet-tricks/piss-and-vinegar/)



There are entire books out there on the virtues of vinegar. My father drinks a shot of apple cider vinegar--cut with an equal amount of water--a day. He swears it's helping lower his "bad" cholesterol.

Correction:

Since I wrote the above, I've talked to my dad. He takes one tablespoon of apple cider vinegar in one shot of water twice a day, before lunch and before dinner.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 10, 2010, 05:02:23 am
hand up.. me to!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 11, 2010, 09:37:42 am
So, what do we do to get over the second month doldrums, Cap'n Paul and everyone? I'm going snowshoeing today, that should get me back in the groove, I hope!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 11, 2010, 12:22:18 pm
Weather kept me at home yesterday, so I did a DVD workout instead.  Oh, and did some shoveling too.

 ;D

Also shoveled today, and plan on hitting the gym.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 14, 2010, 10:48:36 am
That shoveling is very good cardio, isn't it?

I've stepped up my workout lately and my body is responding nicely to it. I've finally reached that plateau where I'm invigorated, not exhausted after a workout, and my muscles are not sore afterwards (I still get stiff muscles if I just sit after a workout).

I'm halfway to my goal of losing 10 pounds. Not much to brag about, since it's only 10 pounds. But, I'm so happy with my "new" body! My stomach is nearly flat and my butt and thighs are slimmer and harder. I still have my love handles though but they're starting to disappear! I'm starting to think new clothes, and I've been able to wear pants that have been hanging forlornly in my closet for months, if not years! szzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddd (My cat wrote that. I think it means Lee doesn't have enuff lap for the computer and me as well now!!)  ::)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 14, 2010, 12:35:46 pm
That shoveling is very good cardio, isn't it?

I read somewhere recently that shoveling is a major cause of heart attacks. But that would pertain to people who are ordinarily sedentary and then have to get out there and shovel -- not people like Chuck who frequent the gym.

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I've stepped up my workout lately and my body is responding nicely to it. I've finally reached that plateau where I'm invigorated, not exhausted after a workout, and my muscles are not sore afterwards (I still get stiff muscles if I just sit after a workout).

I'm halfway to my goal of losing 10 pounds. Not much to brag about, since it's only 10 pounds. But, I'm so happy with my "new" body! My stomach is nearly flat and my butt and thighs are slimmer and harder. I still have my love handles though but they're starting to disappear! I'm starting to think new clothes, and I've been able to wear pants that have been hanging forlornly in my closet for months, if not years!

Good for you, FRiend!

I have a big batch of forlorn clothes, too. I'm hoping to be able to wear them again before they go out of style. There are a couple of things in there that I've never worn at all.  :-\ ::)

I'm down about 10 pounds since I started my efforts in October -- not my usual weight-loss rate, but not bad over the holidays, when I could easily have gained that much (as one clothing-store saleswoman put it when I mentioned this, that's like losing 20 pounds!). Another 15 or so to go.



Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 14, 2010, 05:59:22 pm
Having a nice quiet weekend on Cape Cod.  The benefits include a great fish market and an ever greater vegetable market, open all-year round.

Dinner last night was sushi-grade tuna, bright red for Valentine's Day, seared quickly on each side for very very rare, and steamed baby bok choy, with a soy-ginger-garlic sauce.  Then, a little taste of summer on a very cold night--a caprese salad with hothouse tomatoes (that fooled me into thinking they were summer-fresh), basil and fresh mozzarella.

Today, the Provincetown Pilgrim Monument was open (unusual in winter), free of charge, for a "healthy heart climb".  I realize that I hadn't climbed the thing in about 20 years.  The monument is turning 100 this year.  (I think I'll start a separate thread on it...) {I did, check here (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,44773.0/all.html)}
It was a beautiful clear day.  The climb was followed by a long walk on the beach, against a brisk wind.  
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 14, 2010, 08:45:15 pm
Excellent, friends Paul and Katherine!! I'm so glad to hear my friends are taking care of themselves. A good way to spend Valentine's Day...doing something that shows you that you love yourself!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 14, 2010, 09:57:40 pm
Dinner last night was sushi-grade tuna, bright red for Valentine's Day, seared quickly on each side for very very rare, and steamed baby bok choy, with a soy-ginger-garlic sauce.  Then, a little taste of summer on a very cold night--a caprese salad with hothouse tomatoes (that fooled me into thinking they were summer-fresh), basil and fresh mozzarella.

That sounds delish! I love all of the above, and all are super healthy.

Speaking of your baby bok choy, a similar if more down-market thing I often make for a quick lunch is, I take that bagged, pre-shredded cole-slaw cabbage and sautee it in a little peanut and sesame oil with chopped onions (and optional chopped bell peppers), garlic, ginger and soy. I top it with leftover chicken or salmon or whatever's handy.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 15, 2010, 03:18:45 am



Passionate and real!




TED
Technology Education Design
Ideas worth spreading
February 12, 2010

Jamie [email protected] (http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/TED.jpg)
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go_QOzc79Uc[/youtube]


Go here now:
http://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_oliver.html

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 15, 2010, 12:39:32 pm
That was very inspiring, John. Thank you for sharing it. I had to laugh when Jamie Oliver couldn't get children to identify a beet, an eggplant or a mushroom, but it was sad, too.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 15, 2010, 01:13:27 pm



That was very inspiring, John. Thank you for sharing it. I had to laugh when Jamie Oliver couldn't get children to identify a beet, an eggplant or a mushroom, but it was sad, too.




Thanks, Lee! My English Auntie (who will be 90 on May 1) told me about Jamie ("The Naked Chef") Oliver (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512GHB3YXFL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
about ten years ago (she watched him on television!) and we finally went to his restaurant 'Fifteen' two or three years later. Despite the fact that he is a very shrewd business man and is now quite wealthy, I also think he is a deeply sincere, good person, and I'm glad he's won the TED prize. In fact, I think the 21 minute TED video alone--I bet it will go viral--will do more good than the years and years of boring 'food pyramid' charts ever have.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Oliver

http://www.jamieoliver.com/
http://www.fifteen.net/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.fifteen.net/restaurants/fifteenlondon/Pages/Fifteenlondon.aspx



http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/11/jamie-oliver-wins-ted-prize-for-obesity-efforts/

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February 11, 2010, 1:25 pm
Jamie Oliver Wins TED Prize for Obesity Efforts
By JENNIFER 8. LEE

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Jamie Oliver wants to start a campaign to educate American children about
eating healthier food.


Jamie Oliver, the chef who prodded the British government to overhaul the nation’s school lunch program, was awarded the $100,000 TED Prize on Wednesday at the annual TED conference, a series of lectures by experts from a wide range of fields including science, religion, and economics.

The award is intended to allow prominent people to articulate “one wish to change the world.”

“My wish is for everyone to help create a strong sustainable movement to educate every child about food,” he said, “to inspire families to cook again and to empower people everywhere to fight obesity.”

In front of more than 1,500 people in Long Beach, Calif.. and millions more who watched live over CNN.com, Mr. Oliver challenged his listeners to work with him.

The prize comes with organizational support, largely drawn from the resources of people who attend this week’s conference.

Among the things that Mr. Oliver’s campaign would need: office space, equipment to run community kitchens, media support, a Web site, and corporate partners who would help champion healthier food label. Following TED tradition, audience members stood up and offered their help and suggestions: headhunting for staff members, access to lawmakers in Washington, Web site design and marketing testing.

His mission dovetails with Michelle Obama’s new initiative to combat childhood obesity, a problem that now affects nearly one in three children in the country.

Pacing on the stage in a plaid shirt and his trademark spiky haircut, Mr. Oliver became emotional in explaining that this generation of children is projected to have a shorter life expectancy than their parents, by as much as full decade — which he argued is almost all entirely diet-related.

Mr. Oliver had already established a beach head in the United States in Huntington, W. Va., statistically one of the most unhealthy communities in the country. His alternatingly humorous and emotional efforts to convert the community into eating better are documented in a series, “Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution,” which will be shown by ABC starting on March 26.

In one clip from the program, schoolchildren misidentified tomatoes for potatoes, an eggplant for a pear and a beet for an onion. Mr. Oliver said that they did not know the vegetables because they do not cook with them.

At the darkest moments during the campaign, Mr. Oliver said he thought to himself, “If I had a magic wand, What would I do? I’d just love to be put in front of the movers and shakers in America.”

A month later, TED, whose large annual conference in Long Beach attracts influential people across a range of industries, called and offered him the prize.

Winners of the four previous TED Prizes, which were introduced in 2005, have included Bill Clinton, Dave Eggers and Bono. In past years, there were three winners announced at each conference. But this year the organization decided to scale down to just one, as the number of wish campaigns was becoming unwieldy.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 15, 2010, 03:19:20 pm



Wow. How timely. Interesting!




http://www.salon.com/food/nutrition/index.html?story=/food/2010/02/14/why_your_food_is_getting_sweeter (http://www.salon.com/food/nutrition/index.html?story=/food/2010/02/14/why_your_food_is_getting_sweeter)

Nutrition
Sunday, Feb 14, 2010 21:01 EST
Sugar high:
Why your food
is getting sweeter

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Domino's just banked its future on sauce that tastes more like candy ... and it was probably a good bet


By Sara Breselor
 
What tastes better than cardboard? Sweet cardboard! After being told by customers that their food tasted like paper products, Domino's announced, in a painfully earnest mea culpa ad campaign (http://www.pizzaturnaround.com/), that it was revitalizing its pizza, featuring a new, sweeter sauce. A company on the ropes, losing money for six straight quarters, was confident banking its future on sauce that tastes more like candy than it already did.

But just a week before Domino's announced its "Pizza Turnaround," General Mills took out a full-page ad in The New York Times  to announce that it would, at some uncertain point, lower the sugar content in its cereal to "single digit" levels. The two campaigns illustrate our complicated relationship with sugar.

There is a big psychological difference between "sweetness" and "sugar." Sweetness is good. It tastes good, and it feels good, going all the way back to our reptilian brains. But our nutritional superego constantly battles our sweet-toothed id: Sugar is bad, it's tooth decay and empty calories. We call in a seemingly endless string of substitutes, from rat-killing chemicals to low-glycemic-index nectars, to exorcise the demon of sugar from the deliciousness of sweet things.

Regardless of everything we have learned, however, our food just keeps getting sweeter and more sugary. According to a report from the Times  of London, many of the foods we buy are markedly sweeter than they were 30 years ago -- cereal, bread, soup and even fruit.

Susan Brown, an apple specialist with the Cornell University Agricultural Research Station, denies that the fruit she is working on has more sugar, but acknowledges that "high-quality" fruit is defined, in large part, by a high level of "perceived sweetness." (Which she achieves by creating a balance of sugar and acids, which otherwise tend to mask sweetness.)

Sweetness has always been a sign of caloric energy, so it makes sense that we evolved to want it. But why do our tastes seem to be tilting ever more in its direction, even with calories so readily available to us? To find out, we talked to Brian Wansink, head of the Cornell University Food and Brand Lab (http://foodpsychology.cornell.edu/) , and author of the book "Mindless Eating," (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553384481?ie=UTF8&tag=saloncom08-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0553384481) an investigation of what we eat and why. Salon  talked to Wansink about corn syrup, conspiracy theories and what happens when trendy vilification is the hallmark of our attitude toward nutrition.

Domino's sauce is just one of many savory-sweet foods on the market now. It's common to see flavors like "caramelized onion" and "sweet chili." Does the savory-sweet combo make foods more appealing?

Definitely. What goes on is something called "sensory-specific satiety." It means that if you eat lots and lots of handfuls of popcorn, eventually you're going to get tired of eating popcorn. And if you eat M&M after M&M, eventually you get tired of eating M&Ms. But if you dump a handful of M&Ms into the popcorn, you can eat a ton. Combining the sweet and savory stimulates people into wanting to keep eating because their taste buds don't burn out.

But even though it tastes good, we know that sugar is bad for us. Why isn't our increased nutritional awareness bringing down the sugar levels in food?

Well, one reason was our vilification of fat. We did an environmental scan of over 370 of the most popular snack food products and what we found was, when they went to low-fat, the average calorie level only dropped by 11 percent because they replaced fat with sugar. That's just ridiculous! If you were to ask most people how many fewer calories are in something that's labeled low-fat, the majority of people will say between 40-50 percent. Studies show that people end up eating more of something if they think it's low-fat, and even if it is low-fat, they end up eating more total calories as a result.

And what about all the super-sweet protein bars out there, which are marketed as a healthy food? Isn't that fundamentally wrong?

The thing is, there was a kind of witch-hunting phase where we demonized sugar back in the late '80s. But if you look at it, there's a really nice case to be made for sugar. Let's use chocolate milk as an example. If you're trying to get kids to drink milk, and you add just a little more chocolate and a little more sugar, and add 30 more calories to it, you know, I don't really think that's bad compared to them ordering Goofy Grape punch with the same number of calories and really nothing in it.

I think the same thing with Powerbars. If adding the sugar makes the high concentration of protein a little more stomach-able, I'm not so sure that's a bad thing. People eat more protein, it sticks with them longer, they have fewer subsequent cravings for food, and if the cost is a few spoonfuls of sugar, I'm not so sure that's such a bad cost.

But the more sugar we eat, the more we need in order to taste it. Are we raising kids who have a super-high tolerance for sugar?

It's called adaptation levels, whether it's the amount of sugar we put on anything or the amount of salt, or Tabasco. People get acclimated to a certain level of stimulation, and below that, stuff just tastes boring. So that becomes the new benchmark they need to sort of respond to whenever they season their food.

The Times  of London article claims that food scientists are breeding fruits and vegetables to be sweeter, so even our baseline understanding of what's "naturally" sweet is changing. Is that true?

You know, it's cool because it has the sniff of conspiracy to it, it's like "Ooh I think I found something!" but the stuff is so mixed it's hard to be really sure. I know data that says yes and data that says no.

Speaking of conspiracy theories, there are a lot of people, including Michael Pollan, who blame our increased tolerance for sweetness on high-fructose corn syrup and the power of corn lobbies over the food industry. Do you believe them?

I don't know that it's the problem with sweetness. There's a reason why corn syrup is a substitute -- because it's cheaper. When people go, "Oh, we need to go all organic!" I think, gee whiz, who's gonna starve? It's not going to be you, Mr. Rich Yuppie. It's gonna be somebody else. I'm frightened to think what the unintended consequence would be of going back to cane sugar as a sweetener for everything.

I have read studies that show that people eat more sweets when they're stressed. We're in a recession. People are worried about money, and Domino's is known for being inexpensive. Does our general stress level contribute to the appeal of sweeter pizza?

We're doing a really cool study where we're looking at the sales of healthy and unhealthy foods across Cornell University based on exam time versus non-exam time, and the effect is less than you think. The junk food definitely goes up during exams, but what we find, surprisingly, is that in the weeks after exams there's a reversion that ends up almost wiping out the effects.

The studies of "mood & food" stuff tend to be very episodic. It ends up being like, "OK, what we're going to do is we're going to run in and tell half the people in this room that their grandmother just died, and then we're gonna see how much they eat." This doesn't look at whether there is any compensation or any sort of bounce-back effect that takes place afterwards. And the studies that do look at this stuff longitudinally show that there ends up being this kind of recompensation that occurs, except in the most bizarrely artificial situations, which tend to be the ones reported.

Do you think Domino's will succeed with its new pizza?

What is a typical person who orders Domino's? It's not your nutritionist, it's not your activist. It's your typical American, and your typical American goes, "Man! Sweeter sauce! This is good stuff!" We recently had an emergency, a surprise guest, and I've got a Domino's box within 10 feet of my recycling right now.

Was it good?

Oh yeah.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 15, 2010, 03:45:37 pm
I saw this interview earlier today and looked up this guy's book and website. Interesting ideas, entertainingly presented. Thanks for posting, John.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 15, 2010, 03:46:32 pm
Jamie Olver did a whole season of programmes about teaching kids to eat well and also getting sign up from local auhorities for the school dinners to be healthy but tasty.

It was called Jamie's School Dinners - it was very good.

He's a bit of national treasure over here!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 15, 2010, 05:21:50 pm
It's just criminal the way food manufacturers will advertise their foods as low-fat when they are chock full of sugar, chemicals, and calories, and then people buy it because they mistakenly think low-fat means low-calorie!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 15, 2010, 06:17:43 pm
It's just criminal the way food manufacturers will advertise their foods as low-fat when they are chock full of sugar, chemicals, and calories, and then people buy it because they mistakenly think low-fat means low-calorie!!

You're right on that.  People need to train themselves to read the labels and ingredients when buying food.

I don't buy "low fat" stuff without checking the ingredient list and the caloric content.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 16, 2010, 08:57:43 pm
Tomorrow starts Lent.  For the next 40 days you're supposed to sacrifice something to commemorate the 40 days that Jesus fasted in the desert.

What I'm going to do is buy two cans of food to donate to the church for the poor.

For myself, I've decided that I will sacrifice my free time, and for the next 40 days, work out 3 times a day, as a piece of self-improvement, and see if I can kickstart my weight loss again.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: mariez on February 16, 2010, 09:12:47 pm
I enjoyed watching Jamie Oliver when his "Naked Chef" program was on the Food Network.  He's a fascinating guy, intelligent and fun to watch!

Tomorrow starts Lent.  For the next 40 days you're supposed to sacrifice something to commemorate the 40 days that Jesus fasted in the desert.

What I'm going to do is buy two cans of food to donate to the church for the poor.

For myself, I've decided that I will sacrifice my free time, and for the next 40 days, work out 3 times a day, as a piece of self-improvement, and see if I can kickstart my weight loss again.

Good for you, Chuck!  My mom's church operates a large food pantry and they've had a huge increase in the number of those in need. 

Wow - three times a day?  I'm impressed.  I'm having a hard enough time sticking to once a day.   :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 16, 2010, 10:24:14 pm
Anybody else like yogurt?

I do, and Yoplait has a good variety of flavors.  They have orange creamsicle, cinnamon roll, key lime pie, and others.

And now there's a new flavor.


I haven't seen this flavor in the store yet, but you can bet I'm looking for it!














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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 17, 2010, 10:31:34 am
I'm not a big fan of yogurt, but I do like the Mountain High Original Plain yogurt which reminds me of the delicious breakfasts I had while staying in the Jungfrau Mountains of Switzerland. Only there, the cows probably line up behind the hotel to be milked just before breakfast each morning!

I usually eat the yogurt in a parfait with a little granola or Grape Nuts cereal and lots of berries, fruit, or bananas.

So, Lent has officially started. I'm not religious, but I like to give up something for Lent and it's usually alcohol. I'm also planning to forego Starbucks drinks for the 40 days of Lent too. Anybody else partaking, besides Chuck?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 17, 2010, 12:02:05 pm
So, Lent has officially started. I'm not religious, but I like to give up something for Lent and it's usually alcohol. I'm also planning to forego Starbucks drinks for the 40 days of Lent too. Anybody else partaking, besides Chuck?

When I was growing up, as Lutherans we rather ostentatiously avoided "giving up things for Lent."  ;D

And avoided eating fish on Friday at any time of the year!  ;D

Now, apparently, even some Lutherans think it's OK to go about with a smudge of dirt on your forehead on Ash Wednesday.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 17, 2010, 01:18:16 pm
When I was growing up, there was actual (very subtle) unfriendliness between a family of Lutheran neighbors next door and a family of Catholic neighbors behind us. My heathen family in between got along with both!  ;D

I bet kids these days have never even heard of that kind of thing.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 17, 2010, 01:24:02 pm
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I found the yogurt today in the store by my job!  ;D  Very tasty.....It's like eating refrigerated raw red velvet batter.  That may not sound very appetizng, but it's very tasty.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 17, 2010, 01:49:09 pm
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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Brown Eyes on February 17, 2010, 01:49:37 pm
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I found the yogurt today in the store by my job!  ;D  Very tasty.....It's like eating refrigerated raw red velvet batter.  That may not sound very appetizng, but it's very tasty.

LOL!!! LMAO!!!  That's awesome Chuck!! ;D :D :laugh:


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 17, 2010, 01:52:28 pm

I haven't seen this flavor in the store yet, but you can bet I'm looking for it!

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 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 17, 2010, 02:00:24 pm
Well, I see that you found it Chuck!   ;)


But be careful, it's probably loaded with sugar..... :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 17, 2010, 03:21:10 pm
But be careful, it's probably loaded with sugar..... :-\

Actually, here the word "light" refers to no sugar, just aspartame and/or saccharine.   So, no fat, no sugar--what's left?  A little milk protein and.......glue?

I dislike Yoplait Light because of the strong artificial sweetener taste.

There's one with a kangaroo (can't think of the brand) that's pretty good, especially the maple flavor.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 17, 2010, 03:30:53 pm
There's one with a kangaroo (can't think of the brand) that's pretty good, especially the maple flavor.

Maple-flavored yogurt? Hmm. I don't even like that word, yogurt, but I might be tempted to try maple-flavored yogurt.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 17, 2010, 03:33:13 pm
Maple-flavored yogurt? Hmm. I don't even like that word, yogurt, but I might be tempted to try maple-flavored yogurt.

It's pretty palatable!  Many brands have maple flavor.  Be sure to check that it's real maple, though. 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: mariez on February 17, 2010, 03:34:58 pm
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 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on February 17, 2010, 03:45:43 pm
Definitely the second month isn't going as well as the first...I am still having swine flu relapses and sleeping insane lengths of time 10-12 hours when I usually am fine with 7 or 8.  I think have to be my body telling me it needs some rejuventation.  Meanwhile the work isn't getting done.

 >:(

I'll worry about diet next week.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 17, 2010, 04:00:53 pm
I usually don't eat flavoured yougurt. Basically it's yogurt loaded with sugar and/or chemicals.

I prefer natural yogurt, and then add fruit or berries to it.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on February 17, 2010, 04:13:53 pm
I don't buy the diet or lite stuff either - I'm trying to get off all the artificial sweeteners.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 17, 2010, 05:47:39 pm
I can't stand artificially sweetened yogurt. I do like Stonyfield Farms nonfat French vanilla, which is sweetened with (organic!) sugar. It's one of my few indulgences these days. I usually add chia or flax seeds and fruit, if I have any that's compatible (e.g., strawberries yes, oranges no).

A healthier option would be adding fruit/vanilla and agave nectar to unsweetened yogurt, but it would be more trouble.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 17, 2010, 06:24:32 pm
yep these last 2 weeks has been bad on the exercise fron from me.. manic time running about with work and other stuff means no time for exerise and sh*t eating habits...booo
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 17, 2010, 07:36:27 pm
I gotta say, I like Yoplait's flavors....their Key Lime Pie, Cinnamon Roll and Red Velvet flavors are very tasty.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Brown Eyes on February 18, 2010, 10:20:16 am
I gotta say, I like Yoplait's flavors....their Key Lime Pie, Cinnamon Roll and Red Velvet flavors are very tasty.


I like their flavors too.  I've never seen the red velvet flavor until you posted it here!  I'll have to keep an eye out!
 ;D

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 18, 2010, 05:11:44 pm
I can't stand artificially sweetened yogurt. I do like Stonyfield Farms nonfat French vanilla, which is sweetened with (organic!) sugar. It's one of my few indulgences these days. I usually add chia or flax seeds and fruit, if I have any that's compatible (e.g., strawberries yes, oranges no).

A healthier option would be adding fruit/vanilla and agave nectar to unsweetened yogurt, but it would be more trouble.




What's chia?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 19, 2010, 09:35:55 am

What's chia?

It's what happens when sheep go "green":

(http://z.about.com/d/inventors/1/0/U/9/ramchia.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 19, 2010, 03:55:44 pm
 A vegetarian sheep?  ;D


Would have been a lot easier for Jack and Ennis to untangle those from the Chilean sheep...
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 20, 2010, 09:23:20 pm



Hmmm--interesting!



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7273281/Chocolate-bar-that-can-be-eaten-during-Lent.html

Chocolate bar that can be eaten
during Lent

A "healthy" chocolate bar which can be eaten during Lent
has been invented by scientists who replaced the fat with
water.

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Experts said the breakthrough could help tackle Britain?s obesity crisis
by producing a 'new generation of low-fat foods'.



By Andrew Hough
Published: 8:00AM GMT 20 Feb 2010


The low-fat chocolate containing almost two thirds water is said to taste identical
to regular bars and could pave the way for a new generation of “healthy” foods.

Researchers are also developing a low-fat mayonnaise and porridge which prevents
people from feeling hungry by staying in their stomach longer.

Experts said the breakthroughs could help tackle Britain’s obesity crisis by producing
a “new generation of low-fat foods”.

Recent figures showed that child obesity was rising in England – from 10 per cent
of children in 1995 to 17 per cent in 2008 – while almost one in four adults in Britain
are now considered obese.

In their research, University of Birmingham scientists discovered they could replace
a normal chocolate bar’s fat particles with calorie-free substances such as water,
air or gels.

The team, which are in negotiations to develop their research, created the
“water-chocolate” by then connecting water particles with cocoa butter crystals.

The bar, which contains about 60 per cent water, was found to have the same
taste, smell and feel in a person’s mouth.

Because the particles are so small, they also discovered the new “healthy” bar
could even melt at between 89F and 93F (32-34C).

“It is possible that small, stable, air bubbles designed to resemble oil droplets in
terms of their size and physical properties could be used to produce a new
generation of low fat foods,” said Dr Philip Cox, who led the research.

A similar technique has been known to reduce a food’s salt content by up to
80 per cent because water is hidden inside oil droplets.

This means only an outer skin contains any salt.

The researchers said their new “super porridge” can last in a person’s stomach
for up to six hours because liquid changes into a gel after coming into contact
with stomach acid.

Prof Ian Norton, who is overseeing the research, said: “It remains there for
5-6 hours, so is perfect for between meals.

“We are well advanced with the work and are already talking to manufacturers
about creating products based on our research.”

Prof Norton told the Evening Standard  that the new mayonnaise tasted
identical to full-fat produce but with just five per cent fat.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on February 20, 2010, 11:23:40 pm
I'll believe it when I taste it!  :P

(But I hope it's true!)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 22, 2010, 12:43:26 pm
I was reading an interesting article in The Denver Post this morning, "In Search of Fab Abs" (http://www.denverpost.com/lifestyles/ci_14445071). Fitness expert Rhonda Filetti says, "Everybody has a six-pack; it's in there already." Isn't that nice to know?! All you have to do is uncover it to reveal the muscles under all that fat!!

The story explains how to do that, and also addresses how to strengthen your core to build abdominal muscle and help repair and prevent lower back problems.

Regarding chocolate, the story also touches on foods with MUFA: monounsaturated fatty acids. These foods include nuts, olive oil, avocado, and dark chocolate. Yes, they have calories but in moderation their benefits are worth expending more of your calorie budget on. As usual, the article recommends eschewing carbs such as white flour as in breads, pastas and baked goods, white rice, sugar, sodas, and alcohol.

My favorite chocolate snack of late is Nestle's Chocolatier Bittersweet Baking Bar with 62% cacao. A serving (1 square) has 70 calories with the fat (45 calories) coming from milkfat and cocoa butter. It is chock full of antioxidants and mood enhancing substances. It's what I splurge on in the afternoon when I need a boost, that or a handful of whole raw unroasted unsalted almonds. You just can't get any better than those two snacks IMHO!

Although it's called bittersweet, it's not in the least bitter.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 22, 2010, 01:16:01 pm
I use a lot of olive oil and nuts. Avocado, too, though less often.

Mashed avocado makes a good healthy sandwich spread. Mix it with a little lemon or lime juice to give it zing and keep it greenish. Or add a bit of salsa, cayenne and/or hot sauce. Add lettuce, arugula or other greens, lightly dressed in olive oil. Top with some kind of protein: tuna salad, a chicken breast, smoked salmon, a thin slice of cheese, a hamburger, a veggie burger, a couple of pieces of bacon -- or some combination of the above.

Those round sandwich thins -- they look like flat hamburger buns; Arnold's is one brand, and there are one of two others -- come in whole grain and are only 1 WW pt. apiece.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on February 22, 2010, 01:26:29 pm
It's what happens when sheep go "green":

(http://z.about.com/d/inventors/1/0/U/9/ramchia.jpg)

I want one!!!    :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 22, 2010, 01:41:22 pm
Although it's called bittersweet, it's not in the least bitter.

Reminds one of how Hershey's "semisweet" chocolate got redubbed "special dark" chocolate.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 22, 2010, 02:42:44 pm

What's chia?

Oops! Sorry for the delay, Sason. Chia are little black seeds that are supposed to be good for you:

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/chia.html (http://www.living-foods.com/articles/chia.html)

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            Once valued so much that it was used as currency, this unique little seed has exceptional nutritive and structural benefits.

            Chia, is familiar to most of us as a seed used for the novelty of the Chia Pet™, clay animals with sprouted Chia seeds covering their bodies. Little is known, however, of the seeds tremendous nutritional value and medicinal properties. For centuries this tiny little seed was used as a staple food by the Indians of the south west and Mexico. Known as the running food, its use as a high energy endurance food has been recorded as far back as the ancient Aztecs. It was said the Aztec warriors subsisted on the Chia seed during the conquests. The Indians of the south west would eat as little as a teaspoon full when going on a 24hr. forced march. Indians running form the Colorado River to the California coast to trade turquoise for seashells would only bring the Chia seed for their nourishment.

            If you try missing a spoonful of Chia in a glass of water and leaving it for approximately 30 minutes or so, when you return the glass will appear to contain not seeds or water, but an almost solid gelatin. This gel-forming reaction is due to the soluble fiber in the Chia. Research believe this same gel-forming phenomenon takes place in the stomach when food containing these gummy fibers, known as mucilages, are eaten. The gel that is formed in the stomach creates a physical barrier between carbohydrates and the digestive enzymes that break them down, thus slowing the conversion of carbohydrates into sugar.

            In addition to the obvious benefits for diabetics, this slowing in the conversion of carbohydrates into sugar offers the ability for creating endurance. Carbohydrates are the fuel for energy in our bodies. Prolonging their conversion into sugar stabilizes metabolic changes, diminishing the surges of highs and lows creating a longer duration in their fueling effects.

            One of the exceptional qualities of the Chia seed is its hydrophilic properties, having the ability to absorb more than 12 times its weigh in water. Its ability to hold on to water offers the ability to prolong hydration. Fluids and electrolytes provide the environment that supports the life of all the body’s cells. Their concentration and composition are regulated to remain as constant as possible. With Chia seeds, you retain moisture, regulate, more efficiently, the bodies absorption of nutrients and body fluids. Because there is a greater efficiency in the utilization of body fluids, the electrolyte balance is maintained.

            Example: Fluid and electrolyte imbalances occur when large amounts of fluids are lost resulting from vomiting, diarrhea, high fever, or more commonly from sweating? The loss of extracellular fluid occurs in these conditions. Intercellular fluid then shifts out of cells to compensate, causing abnormal distribution of electrolytes across cell membranes resulting in cellular malfunction. So. Retaining and efficiently utilizing body fluids maintains the integrity of extracellular fluids, protecting intercellular fluid balance. The results of which ensure normal electrolyte dispersion across cell membranes (electrolyte balance), maintaining fluid balances, resulting in normal cellular function.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 22, 2010, 04:15:54 pm
Quote
Chia, is familiar to most of us as a seed used for the novelty of the Chia Pet™, clay animals with sprouted Chia seeds covering their bodies.

How about that! All these years, I thought the Chia in Chia Pet referred to the clay thingie! I always thought the seeds were just grass seeds, or something!  :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 22, 2010, 05:02:53 pm
Oops! Sorry for the delay, Sason. Chia are little black seeds that are supposed to be good for you:

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/chia.html (http://www.living-foods.com/articles/chia.html)



Chia indeed sounds interesting! From the picture I thought it was cress, but I suppose it's something different than that?

I've never heard of it, and I'm not sure it's available here. (unless it's cress LOL)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 22, 2010, 05:54:26 pm
I'm not sure what cress is. I buy my chia seeds online.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 22, 2010, 07:07:03 pm
I'm not sure what cress is.

Isn't it the same thing as watercress?  ???
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 22, 2010, 10:25:25 pm
Isn't it the same thing as watercress?  ???

Cress is a family of plants, and watercress is one of them.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 23, 2010, 03:44:06 pm
I'm not sure what cress is. I buy my chia seeds online.



I have to find out if they're available here...

Do you have a link, crayons?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 23, 2010, 07:54:48 pm
Tired of the same old veggies?  Here are some ideas:  one--a new veggie, and the other--a new twist on an old favorite.

Braised Fennel

Fennel, aka anise, is a lovely versatile veggie.  Sliced very thinly, it adds an aromatic sweet crunchiness to a summer citrusy salad.  However, the familiar licorice flavor is mellowed by braising.  Trim and core a fennel bulb, and slice thicker, about 1/4 - 1/2 inch.  Sauté on med-high heat in a little olive oil for a few moments.  Turn the heat down to low, cover with liquid--water or broth (mushroom broth adds a lovely earthiness, if you can find it).  Simmer covered for about ten minutes, until soft.  Serve!

Grated Zucchini

The poor, pedestrian zucchini.  Long maligned as a boring, bland, summer veggie.  No more!  It has a relatively thick skin that gives it a longish shelf-life.  It's high in water, so it can take on flavors.  This preparation was a revelation when I first had it.  Could it still be zucchini?  So, grate it coarsely with the biggest holes on your box grater.  I like to season it with a combination of salt and pepper, then add ground cumin and coriander (you can pretty much add any herb/spice you like).  Sauté over medium heat with a little olive oil.  It essentially steams itself.  Turn occasionally, it cooks very quickly.  Grated, it as a nice texture, and can easily replace carbs such as rice or pasta.  
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 23, 2010, 07:59:57 pm
A reminder to all our losers!  Next weigh-in is Monday, March 1. 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: loneleeb3 on February 23, 2010, 11:45:24 pm
I need to check in with this thread more regularly!
I got some baggage I need to shed!
My poor horse runs when she sees me comin!  :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 24, 2010, 10:59:36 am
I need to check in with this thread more regularly!
I got some baggage I need to shed!
My poor horse runs when she sees me comin!  :laugh:

You don't need no broke-back horse!

It's not too late to join the club here.  Name your goal, and I'll gladly add you.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 24, 2010, 11:32:16 am
Tired of the same old veggies?  Here are some ideas:  one--a new veggie, and the other--a new twist on an old favorite.

Braised Fennel

Fennel, aka anise, is a lovely versatile veggie.  Sliced very thinly, it adds an aromatic sweet crunchiness to a summer citrusy salad.  However, the familiar licorice flavor is mellowed by braising.  Trim and core a fennel bulb, and slice thicker, about 1/4 - 1/2 inch.  Sauté on med-high heat in a little olive oil for a few moments.  Turn the heat down to low, cover with liquid--water or broth (mushroom broth adds a lovely earthiness, if you can find it).  Simmer covered for about ten minutes, until soft.  Serve!

Grated Zucchini

The poor, pedestrian zucchini.  Long maligned as a boring, bland, summer veggie.  No more!  It has a relatively thick skin that gives it a longish shelf-life.  It's high in water, so it can take on flavors.  This preparation was a revelation when I first had it.  Could it still be zucchini?  So, grate it coarsely with the biggest holes on your box grater.  I like to season it with a combination of salt and pepper, then add ground cumin and coriander (you can pretty much add any herb/spice you like).  Sauté over medium heat with a little olive oil.  It essentially steams itself.  Turn occasionally, it cooks very quickly.  Grated, it as a nice texture, and can easily replace carbs such as rice or pasta.  

I'll skip the fennel, thanks, but the zucchini sounds kind of good.  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 24, 2010, 01:32:41 pm
Other good veggies are sweet potatoes and eggplant (I think it's called aubergine in Europe), both of which can be sliced thin (I use a cheese slicer) and made into chips. Last nite for a party I made sweet potato chips, and they were a big hit. I just dipped each one in very hot oil briefly and dried them on paper towels, applying a little sea salt afterwards. Someone told me you can do the same thing with eggplant. Any slices that were malformed, I ate raw. They were just as delicious as the cooked ones!!

I am really enjoying all kinds of raw vegetables lately. This snow is making me have a craving for them. I like my veggies crunchy. I'm eating sweet peppers of all colors, broccoli, cucumbers, mushrooms, celery, carrots, baby spinach, and white radish. I get them at the Oriental grocery store. Instead of a dressing, I use a dip, sparingly. Good dips are Greek cucumber sauce and spicy peanut sauce. I get the peanut sauce in a bottle, but for the cucumber sauce, I use Mountain High original fat-free yogurt which I drain in a colander overnight (you'd be surprised at the amount of water it releases) and two cucumbers which I also drain of excess water after salting (rinse the salt off afterwards). I chop up the cucumbers with a large clove of garlic, a dash of lemon juice, and some black pepper in a food processor, then add 3 cups of yogurt or however much is left after draining. Lastly, I crumble up a handful of dried mint from my garden!! It's heavenly!!

Gotta go work out now and try to lose one more pound before Monday!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 24, 2010, 01:47:42 pm
Other good veggies are sweet potatoes and eggplant (I think it's called aubergine in Europe), both of which can be sliced thin (I use a cheese slicer) and made into chips. Last nite for a party I made sweet potato chips, and they were a big hit. I just dipped each one in very hot oil briefly and dried them on paper towels, applying a little sea salt afterwards. Someone told me you can do the same thing with eggplant. Any slices that were malformed, I ate raw. They were just as delicious as the cooked ones!!

I make sweet potato chips, too! In fact, I almost made them two nights ago (I got lazy and baked the SPs). I make mine in the oven, after lightly tossing them in olive oil, plus sea salt and cumin or cayenne or some combination or other spicy spice. I also do SP fries. But I've never tried eggplant chips -- what a great idea! I think they would also do well on a cookie sheet at 400.

I have leftover baked sweet potatoes, so I'm going to sauté some carrots and onions and garlic, maybe ginger or spice, add the sweet potatoes and broth, then puree for a vitamin-A-packed soup.

Last night's dinner was sashimi-grade tuna (on sale for $4/filet!) quickly seared, served with brown-rice pilaf and shredded coleslaw cabbage/onions/peppers, lightly sautéd with Asian flavors (peanut and sesami oils, garlic, ginger, rice wine and vinegar, soy, cayenne).

My sons only ate half of their tuna and little to none of the cabbage, so that will be my dinner tonight as well.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: loneleeb3 on February 24, 2010, 09:40:52 pm
You don't need no broke-back horse!

It's not too late to join the club here.  Name your goal, and I'll gladly add you.

40lbs!!! To start with anyway.
I'd be happy with 10 at  his point but I really would be lookin good if I lost 50! :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 24, 2010, 09:43:55 pm
40lbs!!! To start with anyway.   I'd be happy with 10 at  his point but I really would be lookin good if I lost 50! :laugh:


I hear ya!  I'm the same right now.....shooting for 40!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 25, 2010, 06:14:54 am
I can bet your bottom dollar Ive puit weight on.. ugh..
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 25, 2010, 07:16:52 am
(((hugs)))

It's so hard to take it off, isn't it?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: loneleeb3 on February 25, 2010, 08:12:10 am
Wish it came off as easy as it goes on! :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 25, 2010, 09:36:31 am
Wish it came off as easy as it goes on! :-\

You can say that twice and mean it!  :(
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 25, 2010, 11:26:04 am
(((hugs)))

It's so hard to take it off, isn't it?

I weighed myself this lunchtime and actually.. depsite the sh*te exerecie routine and eating habits in the last few weeks, I guess the stress has made it fall off, as I'm actually the same weight as the last time I weighted myself 3 weeks ago.. so HURRAH! Which is 15 stones 2.

So yes, I've only lost 1lb so far in total but hey better than putting it on!!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 26, 2010, 03:02:53 am
Works for me!! Good news, Kelda. Now, back on programme!!

I'm not going to be able to report as much loss this month either. But, I'm rationalizing that I'm replacing fat with muscle, and muscle weighs more than fat. My clothes definitely fit differently, and some of my pants are literally falling off me! I'm about ready to go shopping for some new clothes.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 26, 2010, 10:49:08 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/health/23real.html?em (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/health/23real.html?em)
 
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Really?
 
The Claim:
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To Cut Calories,
Eat Slowly

 
By ANAHAD O’CONNOR
Published: February 22, 2010
 
THE FACTS

 
For ages, mothers have admonished children at the dinner table to slow down and chew their food. Apparently, they’re onto something.

Researchers have found evidence over the years that when people wolf their food, they end up consuming more calories than they would at a slower pace. One reason is the effect of quicker ingestion on hormones.
 
In a study last month (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/95/1/333), scientists found that when a group of subjects were given an identical serving of ice cream on different occasions, they released more hormones that made them feel full when they ate it in 30 minutes instead of 5 . The scientists took blood samples and measured insulin and gut hormones before, during and after eating. They found that two hormones that signal feelings of satiety, or fullness — glucagon-like peptide-1 and peptide YY — showed a more pronounced response in the slow condition.

Ultimately, that leads to eating less, as another study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18589027) published in The Journal of the American Dietetic Association suggested in 2008. In that study, subjects reported greater satiety and consumed roughly 10 percent fewer calories when they ate at a slow pace compared with times when they gobbled down their food. In another study of 3,000 people (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18940848) in The British Medical Journal, those who reported eating quickly and eating until full had triple the risk of being overweight compared with others.

In other words, experts say, it can’t hurt to slow down and savor your meals.

THE BOTTOM LINE
 
Eating at a slower pace may increase fullness and reduce caloric intake.
 
ANAHAD O’CONNOR [email protected] (http://[email protected])
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 26, 2010, 12:40:11 pm
THE BOTTOM LINE
 
Eating at a slower pace may increase fullness and reduce caloric intake.

Here's proof: I just had a Fiber One blueberry muffin for breakfast (pretty good, BTW, and it thaws and warms in the microwave in about 30 seconds). If I'd made two, I would have eaten the second one immediately. Instead, I held off, and now I'm not as hungry for a second one.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 27, 2010, 04:13:58 pm
So, how many calories can you burn shoveling snow?

LOL

I shoveled 3 times yesterday, and then spent about 30 minutes shoveling off the back deck.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 27, 2010, 05:01:01 pm
You can burn a lot shoveling snow, friend, especially that wet New Jersey snow!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 27, 2010, 05:15:40 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on March 01, 2010, 12:14:53 am
Our next weigh-in is tomorrow, Monday March 1

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zqpA7o7qIBI/RsMwL33SUpI/AAAAAAAAAgE/lzS11xPq1sY/s400/bathroom-scale.jpg)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on March 01, 2010, 07:50:41 am
lmao.

That pic is how I feel lately.

However, I did lose 2 more pounds.  :)  Not as quick as I would like, but at least it's leaving.

Down to 226.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on March 01, 2010, 08:08:45 am
This was a hard month for some reason. Too many pizzas. No change. :/

Next month WILL be better. I really can't wait to move Friday!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on March 01, 2010, 09:47:41 am
The second month was definitely harder, but I still managed to lose 4 pounds, for 10 total so far. 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on March 01, 2010, 09:50:55 am
The second month was definitely harder, but I still managed to lose 4 pounds, for 10 total so far. 

Congratulations!!

 :-* :-* 8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 01, 2010, 11:11:00 am
Yay, Chuck and Paul!! And Lynne, at least you didn't gain!! I lost only 1.5 pounds this month, for a total of 5 lost so far. I need to make some adjustments to my diet and exercise program. One problem is that I'm not waking up hungry most days. I need to cut calories in the evening still. If I want to eat breakfast in the morning. My workout routine is in the doldrums. I am working out at the gym every other day and going snowshoeing in the mountains once a week. New training equipment has been installed at the gym which I am trying out and haven't found a machine I like. The good news is, I have stepped up my weight training program and am seeing results in the form of more muscles and greater strength. I'll need both things for what I intend to do in the coming months and years!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on March 01, 2010, 05:10:15 pm
The second month was definitely harder, but I still managed to lose 4 pounds, for 10 total so far. 

Well done Paul!!!

Congrats!!!!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on March 01, 2010, 05:14:09 pm
And congrats Chuck and Lee on your weight loss too!!

And Lynne, not loosing is better than gaining!


My result today is the same as Lynne's: status quo...  :-\


I have to be a lot stricter with my diet next month!!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on March 01, 2010, 05:22:38 pm
Thanks, guys. 

I definitely think that the stress of moving makes it hard to stay focused on weight loss.  So, Lynne and Sonja, status quo is still very good!

Chuck, you just need some more snow to shovel!   :-X

Lee, I'm sure you're building all kinds of muscle, and are becoming denser as we speak!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on March 01, 2010, 09:29:50 pm
Thanks, everyone, for your support!   :-*

Thanks, guys. 

I definitely think that the stress of moving makes it hard to stay focused on weight loss.  So, Lynne and Sonja, status quo is still very good!

Chuck, you just need some more snow to shovel!   :-X

Lee, I'm sure you're building all kinds of muscle, and are becoming denser as we speak!

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on March 01, 2010, 09:43:26 pm
Chuck, you just need some more snow to shovel!   :-X

Send it on down, I'll gladly shovel it!

;D

And congrats to you on your achievement!  Proud of ya!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on March 02, 2010, 01:28:34 am
Ugh. February was not a great month for me. March will be better.

Today was my son's birthday, so we went out to dinner, had cake, etc. Have to get a fresh start tomorrow.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on March 02, 2010, 05:37:22 am
I need to check in with this thread more regularly!
I got some baggage I need to shed!
My poor horse runs when she sees me comin!  :laugh:

              Love this.  I lmao....  I could visualize it all.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 02, 2010, 12:32:42 pm
Here's proof: I just had a Fiber One blueberry muffin for breakfast (pretty good, BTW, and it thaws and warms in the microwave in about 30 seconds). If I'd made two, I would have eaten the second one immediately. Instead, I held off, and now I'm not as hungry for a second one.

But did you eat the muffin, or the box?  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 02, 2010, 12:33:54 pm
Lee, I'm sure you're building all kinds of muscle, and are becoming denser as we speak!

 :o
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 03, 2010, 11:25:24 am
I resemble that remark!! ::)

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on March 04, 2010, 03:23:12 pm
Anyone else want to check in? 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 06, 2010, 03:48:59 pm
I was just visiting the site of the manufacturer of the elliptical equipment I am using, which is Precor, and there is a wealth of interesting articles at http://www.precor.com/cons/en/tools/research, including "How to Break Through a Weight Loss Plateau." The answer, say the experts, is weight training.

I've embarked on the beginning peak performance workout which is a 45-minute weekly workout that trains your body to deal with the buildup of lactate that causes tiredness and soreness. I have more mountains to climb, so I need this workout!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 10, 2010, 12:37:33 pm
For those who are running into problems with their weight loss program, is it on the eating, exercising, or attitude aspects?? With me, the problem area is exercising. I'm part of the "sandwich generation" with demands coming at me from all sides. I haven't been able to visit the gym in three days, and it's starting to get tiresome!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on March 11, 2010, 04:34:47 pm
Aaaaargh!  A new diagnosis of plantar fasciitis has put a damper on my exercise regimen, such as it was.  No more walking for a few months.  I'll have to do some upper body stuff in the meantime. 

The eating plan is going pretty well--high protein, high fiber, low carbs, moderate fat, lots of water, moderate alcohol.  Definitely feels doable in the long run.  Turns out, I like vegetables, and don't really miss the bread/rice/pasta/potatoes.  Can't wait for farmers' market season!

Attitude seems to be the key.  Embracing the plan as a life change, rather than a resolution or a fad, helps a lot.  Giving up the boyish idea that I can eat whatever I want is very key!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on March 11, 2010, 05:00:55 pm
Aaaaargh!  A new diagnosis of plantar fasciitis has put a damper on my exercise regimen, such as it was.  No more walking for a few months.  I'll have to do some upper body stuff in the meantime. 

How about cycling or swimming?

Quote
The eating plan is going pretty well--high protein, high fiber, low carbs, moderate fat, lots of water, moderate alcohol.  Definitely feels doable in the long run.  Turns out, I like vegetables, and don't really miss the bread/rice/pasta/potatoes.  Can't wait for farmers' market season!

Attitude seems to be the key.  Embracing the plan as a life change, rather than a resolution or a fad, helps a lot.  Giving up the boyish idea that I can eat whatever I want is very key!

Sounds very smart!

I got stalled there for a while. But I've adjusted my attitude and expect to be making progress again soon.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 11, 2010, 05:50:14 pm

I got stalled there for a while. But I've adjusted my attitude and expect to be making progress again soon.



Yay!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on March 15, 2010, 11:06:25 am

http://www.realage.com/tips/choose-this-fat-burning-condiment


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Choose This Fat-Burning Condiment: Vinegar

By RealAge

It's perfect on potatoes, very good on veggies, and divine in salad dressings. And the best news yet? It may help with fat burning. The magic condiment in question: vinegar.

Obese people who took in 1 to 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar daily in a study melted significantly more body fat and belly fat than a group taking a placebo -- despite being on the same diet and exercise plan.

A Sour Path to Skinny
Vinegar may offer a weight loss boost thanks to acetic acid. Seems this sour stuff does double-duty fat-blasting, inhibiting the body's ability to store fat while boosting its ability to burn it. And even though apple cider vinegar was the type used in the recent study, researchers suspect most varieties of the liquid seasoning could have the same get-skinny effects. (Find out what the YOU Docs think about vinegar and weight loss. (http://www.realage.com/blogs/doctor-oz-roizen/can-balsamic-bring-weight-and-blood-sugar-down?click=p3link1))

Other Tart Benefits
Vinegar also seemed to help lower bad-for-the-heart triglyceride levels and systolic blood pressure at the end of the 12-week study. That's a Sherpa's load of health benefits for one little flavor maker. So get your daily dose of vinegar with one of these tart-tasting, waist-whittling RealAge recipes:

When you're craving tart: Give your salad and grilled veggies a refreshing citrus-flavored punch with this Lemon-Balsamic Vinaigrette (http://www.realage.com/recipefinder/lemon-balsamic-vinaigrette-4003?click=recipe_sr?click=p5link1) .

When you're craving savory: Add a Mediterranean touch to chicken with this Chicken in Garlic-Vinegar Sauce (http://www.realage.com/recipefinder/chicken-in-garlic-vinegar-sauce-recipe-6754?click=recipe_sr?click=p5link2) .

When you're craving sweet: Add a bit of tangy sweetness to dessert with these Balsamic-Spiked Strawberries (http://www.realage.com/recipefinder/balsamic-spiked-strawberries-recipe-9361?click=recipe_sr?click=p5link3).

Did You Know?
Apple cider vinegar can make your skin and hair beautiful, too. RealAge author and dermatologist Dr. Amy Wechsler shares how (http://www.realage.com/blogs/apple-cider-vinegar-secret-beauty-potion?click=p6link1) .
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 15, 2010, 12:03:32 pm
Obese people who took in 1 to 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar daily in a study melted significantly more body fat and belly fat than a group taking a placebo -- despite being on the same diet and exercise plan.

Vinegar also seemed to help lower bad-for-the-heart triglyceride levels.

My dad does this. He's convinced it helps his cholesterol levels. He drinks it, mixed in water, twice a day before meals. I can't remember how much water he uses to dilute the vinegar.
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Post by: Lynne on March 15, 2010, 12:12:20 pm
Aaaaargh!  A new diagnosis of plantar fasciitis has put a damper on my exercise regimen, such as it was.  No more walking for a few months.  I'll have to do some upper body stuff in the meantime. 

The eating plan is going pretty well--high protein, high fiber, low carbs, moderate fat, lots of water, moderate alcohol.  Definitely feels doable in the long run.  Turns out, I like vegetables, and don't really miss the bread/rice/pasta/potatoes.  Can't wait for farmers' market season!

Attitude seems to be the key.  Embracing the plan as a life change, rather than a resolution or a fad, helps a lot.  Giving up the boyish idea that I can eat whatever I want is very key!

I am sorry this business of plantar fascitis is slowing you down, but I know you'll overcome it...you're a very determined man!  You get to be in charge of turning in $$ for the AIDS walk and collecting our team swag this year and I'll do the walking - no walking the day before for me, tho. ;)

I wonder if a red wine or balsamic vinegar in salad dressing really would have similar effects as apple cider vinegar?  That wacky roommate of mine had a couple of tablespoons of the apple cider vinegar every day...said it would cure my flu... ::)  Maybe, but it didn't stop her from getting it, or something like it.

Also, I wanted to say that I loved the braised fennel you made for me last night...maybe post a recipe here for others when you get a chance?  I never would have thought I'd like fennel, but you made it really tasty.  Thank you!
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Post by: southendmd on March 15, 2010, 12:31:28 pm
I am sorry this business of plantar fascitis is slowing you down, but I know you'll overcome it...you're a very determined man!  You get to be in charge of turning in $$ for the AIDS walk and collecting our team swag this year and I'll do the walking - no walking the day before for me, tho. ;)
Sure enough.
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Also, I wanted to say that I loved the braised fennel you made for me last night...maybe post a recipe here for others when you get a chance?  I never would have thought I'd like fennel, but you made it really tasty.  Thank you!
Glad you liked it.  Turns out, I did post the recipe, earlier in this thread!

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,44577.msg563542/topicseen.html#msg563542
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 16, 2010, 11:54:29 pm
While my diet has not been productive as of late, I am able to say that while I started at 295, I'm still at about 225, so I've managed to keep off the weight I did lose.

Before I left for thsi trip, I went to my doctor's office for my regularly scheduled physcial.  My bloodwork showed my thyroid is normal, my chlorestoral is normal, I am not anemic, and most importantly, my sugar is normal.

Now to kick this diet up a notch, and get past this plateau, and hit my goal weight.
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Post by: serious crayons on March 17, 2010, 09:27:19 am
Me too. After a brief slip-up, during which I regained a pound or two, I'm back on track. And I'm still about 10 pounds down from where I was when I began this effort last fall.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 17, 2010, 11:39:36 am
I am not anemic.

Nobody would ever accuse you of being anemic, Sweetheart!  ;D  ;)  :-*
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 17, 2010, 02:27:41 pm
I think you are doing splendidly, friends! I have some good news to report. I'm getting ready to go back to work after being off for three months, and I visited my local Goodwill and found tons of spring clothes in a smaller size!! I snatched up five pairs of pants and was thrilled to try them on and they all fit and looked good! It's been months and months since I have had the fortitude to bare my body for a dressing room mirror or to try on any pants at all. I also found three pairs of cropped gaucho pants and am wearing one of them right now with some new cowboy boots!! These are matte black leather with tan embroidery, very smart!! Since it's St. Paddy's Day, I'm also wearing a green sweater and a vest with green/brown/white tweed.

I bought some workout clothes, floaty skirts, sandals, pumps, and jackets during my spending spree too. Two of the items I bought were extra-small!!! It was such a wonderful reward for all the punishment, er, exercising and dieting these past two months!!
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 17, 2010, 04:31:41 pm
Nobody would ever accuse you of being anemic, Sweetheart!  ;D  ;)  :-*

 :laugh:
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Post by: SuperDistortion on March 17, 2010, 09:43:54 pm
Goal: Lose 50 lbs.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 17, 2010, 09:53:18 pm
Goal: Lose 50 lbs.

Yay! Welcome to our merry band, friend!
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 23, 2010, 10:11:54 am
Apologies to Ennis, who welded his salt shaker so assiduously, but I wanted to pass along a few thoughts that may be worth their salt.

Excess salt is something that you should eliminate from your diet. It can lead to imbalances and deaden your taste buds so that you need to eat more and more in order to taste anything. Salt lurks in processed and boxed foods, pastries, fast foods, and restaurant foods. For instance, there is more salt in some pancake mixes than in potato chips!!

You may think that freshly ground salt or salt from the Dead Sea has nutritive properties. Not really. Salt is salt. Whether it’s kosher salt, salt crystals, or seasoned salt, salt is sodium chloride and it’s bad news for 4 out of 5 people in the developed world.

To eat healthy foods and avoid a salt imbalance, buy fresh food that is located around the perimeter of the grocery store. Avoid the canned, frozen and processed foods in the middle aisles. Eat at home or prepare your lunches and take them with you to work. Be wary of snack foods. If it’s white, don’t bite. DON’t eat foods from bakeries, pastries, or diners. Some Asian foods can be high in sodium or monosodium glutimate. Seek out authentic foods!

Some foods that are not as bad as you might think: Chips. Did you know that you can buy or make chips out of many different foods? Some of my favorites are radish and yam chips, eggplant (really!) chips, and pita chips. There are whole grain chips with flaxseed and even potato chips that are healthful and delicious. You just have to be ready to read labels and look for the kinds that are not loaded with salt and saturated fats.

Meats. Prosciutto, sausages, and other meats can be healthful if bits are added to noodles and veggies. The key word is bits…small amounts used as flavoring or condiments rather than as a significant part of the meal.

Some foods that are worse than you might think: Pastries and sweets. Believe it or not, oftentimes these foods contain a lot of hidden sodium. One time my mother left a couple of croissants at my house after she visited, and I ate them, basically just to get rid of them. An hour or so later, I felt awful. The sodium made my heart beat wildly, and the hidden fat made me feel sluggish. It took me over a day to recover!! I stay far away from croissants and whatever looks like them now!

Soft drinks. Yes, this is another place where excess sodium lurks. I can’t imagine why manufacturers feel they must put sodium in soft drinks!!
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Post by: Lynne on March 23, 2010, 11:43:48 am
Goal: Lose 50 lbs.

You and me both, bud.  I'm not making much progress, but I'm not gaining.  I have been grocery shopping and now have food in my house, so hopefully there will be less dining out and delivery and more cooking for myself.

After Lee's post (Thanks, Lee!), though, I realize that too much of it is convenience food from those 'middle aisles' with the exception of my healthy Kashi cereal and milk and eggs.

I'm now mostly drinking water during the day, sometimes hot tea or coffee (milk, no sugar) - I'm off the diet cokes - no more aspartame for me!  So I'm happy about that.

I am also drinking a 14 oz bottle of milk most days.  Just now checking the label, it contains 210 mg of Na.  But it has 50% of my RDA of Ca, which is necessary just now.

Interestingly, I have those chocolatey caramely Ca chews, and I never really want them.  They're completely edible.  I think it's because I know they're good for me.
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Post by: southendmd on March 23, 2010, 12:46:44 pm
Goal: Lose 50 lbs.

Added!

Thanks, Lee, for the reminder about decreasing salt.  I find that a squeeze of lemon juice is a good substitute.

Cutting out prepared food and eating fresh food is a challenge, and requires different shopping habits.  Keep to the perimeter!  Exactly. 
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on March 27, 2010, 02:21:19 pm

http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2010/03/chewing_the_fat_with_jamie_oli.html


Chewing the Fat With Jamie Oliver
on the Dawn of His ‘Food Revolution’

3/26/10 at 2:00 PM


By: Daniel Maurer

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Photo: Courtesy of ABC

Tonight, ABC airs the two-hour premiere (including the “preview” episode that aired last week) of Jamie Oliver’s new reality show, Food Revolution. As you may recall (http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2010/01/fat_stubborn_americans_reduce.html), the six-part series finds the Naked Chef on a quest to transform the “most unhealthy town in America” (Huntington, West Virginia) by teaching its skeptical lunch ladies that French fries aren’t an acceptable vegetable and “breakfast pizza” is an oxymoron. Oliver has made great strides in this area in England, so some are wondering, why come here (other than to chat up Tom Colicchio (http://www.foodandwine.com/blogs/mouthing-off/2010/3/25/Pulinos-LateNight-Burger))? We asked the TED winner (http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2009/12/jamie_oliver_wins_coveted_supe.html) just that.

Why come to the States? Doesn’t it dilute your mission across the pond?
I have never left the English one; I have teams still on it monitoring various stuff. But in our research, America was always there as being in the same or worse situation. Eight or ten months ago everything seemed to change over here. Things kept biting and things kept sticking, maybe because of the new administration, or the atmosphere of Americans pissed off at so much bad news and not much solutions. For some reason, it’s important right now.

So the obvious question: Were you able to change the people of Huntington?
Ultimately there’s never going to be a happy ending — it’s just going to be a hopeful question mark. The idea of the show is it makes you laugh, cry, throw things at your TV and understand the problem. It’s not like black-and-white statistics; you’re seeing the statistics in the characters and in real lives. It’s about observing something that will hopefully want to make people kick up a fuss. It’s about going to various cornerstones of food — the supermarkets, the fast-food industry, the parents and the home, what their kids eat, the workplace. What’s the corporate responsibility in the workplace if you feed your staff shit?

Here in New York, there’ve been complaints about the “food police.” A councilwoman wants to limit fast-food restaurants (http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2010/03/food_police_quinn_mulls_fast-f.html) in poor neighborhoods and another wanted to ban salt in restaurants (http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2010/03/insane_bill_would_ban_salt_in.html). Do you support such laws?
I think Bloomberg is sensible — he’s a pioneer. It’s not telling everyone what to do, it’s giving clear sign posts. The people whinging about it are just whingers and they’ll whinge anyway. [Regarding calorie postings,] some people will ignore them, some will never see them, and a third will use them and they’ll make them bounce to another product when they find out a muffin is a third of their daily intake of calories and they’re trying to lose a little weight. Diabetes and obesity kill way more people than any form of murder or gun crime.

Your petition (http://www.jamieoliver.com/campaigns/jamies-food-revolution/petition) that you’re planning to take to Michelle Obama is just about 60,000 strong. But where do you go from here? What’s the next concrete step?
I suppose the answer is I don’t know — it’s not a straightforward campaign. The petition is just to solidify the learnings of the show, but ultimately the most powerful force is people and the parents. I think they’ll be key to driving radical change. All I can say is, I’ve been given this opportunity to tell a story on prime-time network television, which has never been heard of. I’m hoping the public will speak out and it will find a natural rhythm, and everything will be debated, and news stories will pick up on different elements. I don’t know if anything’s going to happen, but I hope it does.

Obviously a big part of the show is that you’re a British disciplinarian, à la Simon Cowell and Gordon Ramsay. Do you think there’s something about the American character that makes it harder for us to make the sort of strides you’ve made in England?
No, there’s not one situation that I’ve filmed that I haven’t seen and filmed in my own country. Yes, you’re more advanced structurally on fast food and a few more issues such as portion control, but basically it’s all the exact same. Ultimately, if America changes the rest of the world will be looking to it and doing it, too. When Americans get on something, there ain’t a country quicker in the world that moves. When they do get on something, magic can happen. Whereas in England, things can happen, but things can be a bit more lethargic.

What about criticism that the show “regurgitates the worst of reality show TV pap”? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/19/AR2010031901683.html)
What is the foundation of this show and what drives it is the campaign of change that is not funded by ABC and has nothing to do with any production company. Sometimes I need to tell stories in certain places to be relevant and help the storytelling. If you look at the whole series and compare it to reality TV that usually has a winner or loser, this is a way more old-fashioned English-style documentary than it is a hyped-up, structured reality TV.

But what about stunts like dressing up as a pea?
I’ve dressed up as more vegetables that you know. It’s not because I want to, it’s because the only way to engage 5-year-olds is as Mr. Pea — they don’t know who Jamie Oliver is. And let me tell you, when I do dress up as vegetable, they don’t know I’m a pea. They think I’m an alien, because they don’t know what vegetables are in the first place!

Do you have any sense of how much bringing this change to every town in America would cost?
It’s going to cost more money, but what’s more important? Obesity costs $150 billion a year and it’s set to double in eight to ten years, which is horrific. This is good bang for your buck. Congress is talking about spending $4.5 billion over the next ten years for these kinds of initiatives which is insulting, rude, and absolutely illogical. Afghanistan alone costs $7 billion a month. They’re paying for people in various industries that are putting their business and bucks over the health of kids and they’re stopping Michelle [Obama] from doing her job. For the last 30 years, adults have let kids down. Maybe this is a load of hype and a cute little story, but at some point in time it will have to change and it will involve love, care, attention, and investment. Will the parents of America demand that? They will. But will they demand it in five years, or in ten years, or twenty years? Or will they demand it now?

On another note, how’s the London restaurant with Adam Perry Lang (http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2010/01/jamie_oliver_explores_global_b.html) going? Is it still looking like global barbecue?
I’m really happy; the menu’s looking great. Adam is in Japan researching. We’re opening in October. I think we’re not going to mention “global” or any specific country, because if you start saying Asian this, Indian that, everyone’s like, “Ah, fuck me, it’s like Disneyland.” We’re just going to write a bloody good menu and have a nod to different countries. But we work well together and we’re bouncing off each other a lot.


Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution: Episode 101 (http://abc.go.com/watch/jamie-olivers-food-revolution/250784/254757/episode-101)    [ABC]

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 27, 2010, 05:51:53 pm
Chewing is not the first oral action I think of when I think of Jamie Oliver. ...  8)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 29, 2010, 11:51:55 am
So, does anybody have any thoughts, ideas, tips, suggestions, or secrets for maintaining one's "gains"--that is to say, losses--when traveling?

I've lost about seven pounds, which is pretty much common for me in this "fasting quarter" of the year. However, with the return of better weather, I will soon be doing some traveling, and, based on past experience, once I start traveling, it won't be long before the weight comes back.  :(

It wasn't that difficult to drop those pounds--though it seems impossible to push it to a full ten-pound loss--but once I start traveling I find it awfully difficult to maintain my usual eating habits at home. For example, flight times interfere with my normal dining habits. And again, on my rail odyssey last summer, sleeping car accommodations included three full meals a day, and choices were limited (not to mention the lack of opportunity for exercise when spending days at a time sitting on a train). So the weight comes back.  :(

Anybody have any thoughts?
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Post by: serious crayons on March 29, 2010, 12:38:26 pm
So, does anybody have any thoughts, ideas, tips, suggestions, or secrets for maintaining one's "gains"--that is to say, losses--when traveling?

I've lost about seven pounds, which is pretty much common for me in this "fasting quarter" of the year. However, with the return of better weather, I will soon be doing some traveling, and, based on past experience, once I start traveling, it won't be long before the weight comes back.  :(

It wasn't that difficult to drop those pounds--though it seems impossible to push it to a full ten-pound loss--but once I start traveling I find it awfully difficult to maintain my usual eating habits at home. For example, flight times interfere with my normal dining habits. And again, on my rail odyssey last summer, sleeping car accommodations included three full meals a day, and choices were limited (not to mention the lack of opportunity for exercise when spending days at a time sitting on a train). So the weight comes back.  :(

Anybody have any thoughts?

If you're a captive audience, as on a train, just do the best you can. Whenever offered a choice between foods, pick the healthier option. Ask whether they have low-carb or low-fat choices. Walk the length of the train now an then if possible, if only to stretch your legs.

When you're in stationary places and have more control, pick healthy options whenever possible. For breakfast, you can usually find healthy options even in hotels with continental breakfast. Pick the boiled egg, the whole-grain toast, the whole-grain hot or cold cereal, fruit or juice. Avoid the sugary pastries (obviously), the white flour, the make-your-own waffles. If you're in a restaurant, have a vegetable omelet, unflavored oatmeal, whole-grain pancakes topped with fruit. Avoid breakfast buffets -- they're just asking for trouble!

For lunch, salad. For dinner, grilled fish.

If you're going to be walking around all day -- outdoors, at tourist destinations, etc. -- consider stopping in a little grocery or takeout place for a bag lunch: sandwich or wrap, fruit, drink. Don't leave yourself at the mercy of random concession stands, unless you know the museum or whatever has a nice cafe. Take long walks or hikes whenever possible. If you're staying in a hotel, use the pool.

The secret, I think, is don't even start eating fattening things. At least for me, once I let my discipline slip, all bets are off. Breakfast buffets! Burgers! Ice cream! Next thing you know, I feel like crap an the clothes I brought with me are too tight.

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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 30, 2010, 11:36:55 am
I think you have the right idea, Katherine...if you can't exercise while traveling, you have to cut back on eating. I often take long car trips and my buddies always pack a snack box. But I do not partake except for the occasional handful of trail mix or raw whole almonds.

Also, if you're going on a long trip, you might schedule extra exercise before and after the trip.

Lately I have trouble if I go for more than two days without exercising. I have to work in a trip to the gym every third day, one way or another. In fact, I'm taking a day off work today just so I can work out! And with that, I gotta go!!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2010, 01:51:52 pm
I think a big part of the problem that I have had is that with much of my traveling in recent years, I have not been in control of when I get to take my meals. I don't like to snack, whether on a car trip, or at work, or at home. But when snacks are available, and there is no telling when you are going to get your dinner, rather than endure hunger pains. ... And it's also not good to sit down to a full dinner at ten o'clock at night, and then go to bed on a full stomach.  :(
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on March 30, 2010, 02:33:35 pm


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/health/nutrition/24recipehealth.html?src=me&ref=health

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Recipes for Health
Spaghetti With Edamame, Parsley, Garlic
and Olive Oil

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By MARTHA ROSE SHULMAN
Published: March 24, 2010


This is a quick pasta to throw together if you have frozen shelled edamame or peas in your freezer, and it’s a dish that I find irresistible. You can find frozen edamame at most supermarkets; the green soybeans are a terrific source of protein and isoflavones. Seek out organic edamame.

The pasta company Barilla is now making a mixed semolina and whole grain pasta called Barilla Plus that combines a grain and legume flour blend with the traditional semolina. It’s a little more expensive than regular pasta, but you’ll get more nutrition for your buck. The other ingredients here are not at all pricey. If you can’t find the whole grain pasta, this is still an easy, inexpensive and nutritious dish.

1 large garlic clove, finely minced (more to taste)

Leaves from 1 bunch parsley

2 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil

1 1/3 cups frozen shelled edamame, preferably organic, or frozen peas

3/4 pound whole grain spaghetti if available, or regular spaghetti

1/4 cup freshly grated Parmesan (optional)

1. Begin heating a large pot of water for the pasta. Meanwhile, turn on a food processor fitted with the steel blade, and drop in the garlic. When it’s chopped and adhering to the sides of the bowl, stop the machine and scrape down the bowl with a spatula. Add the parsley to the bowl, and process until finely chopped. With the machine running, drizzle in the olive oil. Transfer the mixture to a large pasta bowl. (You can also use a mini-chop for this task.)

2. When the water in the pot comes to a boil, salt generously, add the edamame or peas and cook five minutes. Remove from the pot with a strainer or a slotted spoon, and place in the bowl with the parsley.

3. Add the spaghetti to the boiling water, and cook al dente following the timing instructions on the package. Checking for doneness about a minute before the stated cooking time. When the pasta is cooked, remove 1/2 cup of the cooking water and add to the bowl with the herbs and edamame or peas. Drain the pasta, and toss with the mixture in the bowl. Add Parmesan if desired, and serve.

Yield: Serves four.

Advance preparation: This isn’t a dish to do in advance, but the whole thing can be made while you’re waiting for the water to boil.

Martha Rose Shulman can be reached at martha-rose-shulman.com (http://martha-rose-shulman.com).



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Post by: southendmd on March 30, 2010, 02:37:22 pm
That looks great, John.  Parsley and garlic give a flavor boost to just about anything.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2010, 02:43:17 pm
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"This is a quick pasta to throw together if you have frozen shelled edamame or peas in your freezer."

Doesn't everyone keep frozen shelled edamame in the freezer, just for emergencies?

 ;D

I'm sorry, it's just that the phrase, "if you have frozen shelled edamame ... in your freezer," struck me as funny.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 30, 2010, 02:51:34 pm
Actually I keep frozen peas in the freezer for emergencies of the sore muscular kind!!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2010, 02:55:43 pm
Edamame: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edamame (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edamame)

Note the use of condiments.  ;D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 30, 2010, 05:33:35 pm
That was cute, but they forgot to say "uh...ketchup"!

So, I'd like to hear more about these travels you're going on this summer, friend! Me, I'm going to Scotland to meet our friend Kelda!! I'm also planning to go to the New York area in August. Hope to do plenty of walking around during both trips, but I doubt if either will be a weight losing trip...so I'll just have to take off the weight before I leave.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2010, 06:50:46 pm
So, I'd like to hear more about these travels you're going on this summer, friend!

I have no plans as yet. My question wasn't exactly rhetorical, but I have no plans as of now.

When are you leaving for Scotland?

FRiend, why would you go to New York in August? Don't you know what the Mid-Atlantic States are like in August? Heat and humidity like nobody's business. ... :P
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on March 30, 2010, 07:09:16 pm


FRiend, why would you go to New York in August? Don't you know what the Mid-Atlantic States are like in August? Heat and humidity like nobody's business. ... :P

Me, I love the heat, but I'll tell you what--in New York, in 2008, August was gorgeous--(mostly) cool, sunny, mild--and dry. On the other hand, in 2009, August was--no joke!--dark, dank, and perpetually raining. Humidity? Ok, but cold and damp. Strangest Summer in New York I ever remember seeing--

(And I've seen a lot of New York Summers.... ::) )

August 2010? Who knows--
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 30, 2010, 07:30:47 pm
I should have said New York state. I'm going to be in the upstate area. I don't think that climate is sublime in August either, but it may be better than the manmade caverns of New York City. If I go to NYC, I'll probly be out and about after dark, and prowl the museums in the afternoons. I'm also planning to go to Boston area (heads up, Boston Brokies) to witness the 40th anniversary of John Williams and the Boston Pops, IF I can get tickets. The rest of August I'm gonna try to bag at least two more fourteeners...mountains in Colorado, and spend time in Wyoming, of course. That's the ideal August climate!!

I'm leaving for Scotland June 10th!!
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 30, 2010, 07:31:31 pm
(And I've seen a lot of New York Summers.... ::) )

August 2010? Who knows--

I'll bet you have, friend!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2010, 10:46:21 pm
I'm also planning to go to Boston area (heads up, Boston Brokies) to witness the 40th anniversary of John Williams and the Boston Pops, IF I can get tickets.

 ???  Um, well. ... John Williams took over the baton of the Pops in 1980, so that's only 30 years--but Keith Lockhart has been the conductor since 1995.  ???

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I'm leaving for Scotland June 10th!!

Still planning to be there for the Summer Solstice?  :)
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Post by: southendmd on March 31, 2010, 08:16:52 am
Our next weigh-in is Monday, April 5!

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Post by: southendmd on March 31, 2010, 08:39:58 am
I'm also planning to go to Boston area (heads up, Boston Brokies) to witness the 40th anniversary of John Williams and the Boston Pops, IF I can get tickets.

Aside to Lee:
Our heads are up!  Jeff's right, though:  we had Arthur Fiedler since 1930, John Williams came on in 1980, Keith Lockhart in 1995. 

Williams has a CD called something like 40 years of movie music.  I notice he's guesting with the Pops in mid-May in a show called "Hooray for Hollywood".
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 31, 2010, 10:25:24 am
I know the concert's in August and it's in New England somewheres, but I'll have to get the rest of the details for you, and I'll do that shortly. It might be the 40th anniversary of Tanglewood, or something like that.

Jeff, the eating/traveling conundrum can be managed. One way is to take up a different regimen of eating a month or two before you plan to travel. Eat at different times of the day, preferably only when you are hungry. Also, eat something that takes a while to digest, such as a meat-based sandwich or a baked potato. Over a little time, you can train your stomach not to kick in with the hunger pangs at a particular time of day.
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on April 04, 2010, 08:56:47 am

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Practicing physician and pioneer in functional medicine
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Resveratrol -- Eat Whatever and Live to 120?

"Live to 120 years old by eating as much as you want and drinking lots of red wine!"

That's the intriguing finding of a recent study from Harvard researcher David Sinclair and his group.

The only catch is that you'd have to drink about 1,500 bottles of wine a day to get those results. Of course, that would kill you pretty quickly -- before you'd have a chance to reach age 120! Still, those are important findings ...

In fact, Dr. Sinclair thinks they're so important that he started a company to produce a pharmaceutical derivative of the active compound in red wine, resveratrol.

Although his findings have merit, I think he is misguided in his attempt to find a "magic pill" that will allow you to eat whatever you want and live forever. The body is much more complex than that.

This week, I'm going to explain why a magic pill WON'T work -- and provide 10 tips that really WILL help you live longer and prevent all the diseases of aging.

Why "Magic Pills" Don't Work

Don't get me wrong. Dr. Sinclair is on the right track. But I believe he's focused on the wrong thing. In looking for that "magic pill," he's not taking into account the bigger picture. That approach will always fail.

Sure, there has been a lot of fanfare about this new "drug" resveratrol that can extend your life span and let you eat whatever you want and have the fitness of a trained athlete without any exercise. But that's wrong on a couple of counts ...

First, resveratrol isn't a drug at all. It's a natural plant defense molecule, or "phytonutrient," that's found in grapes (and therefore red wine), as well as in peanuts, berries, and a Chinese herb called hu zhang.

Second, all the excitement reinforces the idea that a single molecule (whether from a drug or a plant) can solve all our health problems. In functional medicine we look at ALL the systems of the body. We need to consider resveratrol as just ONE of many healthful plant compounds.

You see, resveratrol is just one of thousands of polyphenols, which make up just one class of phytonutrients. These phytonutrients act in many ways, the most important of which is as a genetic control system, turning on and off genes that help us stay healthy.

This is the science of nutrigenomics -- which describes how food is information that tells our bodies what to do, not just a source of calories we need for energy.

I believe that all the excitement about resveratrol is misguided. Everyone is looking for a quick fix, and scientists (especially ones who start pharmaceutical companies to market their discoveries) are looking to make a quick buck.

There is nothing wrong with either. But in order to find the real secret to longevity and to healthy aging and fitness, we need to look at how this compound works and learn from that how to keep ourselves healthy.

The secret lies in our mitochondria.

Mitochondria: The Real Secret to Healthy Aging and Lifelong Fitness

Mitochondria are the little organs in every cell that turn oxygen and food into energy.

For now, let's examine two recent studies that shed light on these mighty little organs that hold the key to health, weight loss, and longevity.

In the first study, published in Nature, Dr. Sinclair and his colleagues gave one group of mice a diet high in fat (60 percent of calories). What happened then was interesting ...

In middle age they all became obese, got diabetes and fatty livers, and died early.

Another group of mice were fed the same diet, but also received resveratrol at a dose of 24 mg/kg of body weight. That's the equivalent of the amount of resveratrol found in about 750 to 1,500 bottles of wine a day! What happened to those mice was even more interesting ...

They still got fat -- but lived longer and did not develop diabetes. They were also more agile and had more endurance than the rats that didn't get the resveratrol. Interestingly, their cholesterol profiles didn't improve -- BUT they didn't get heart disease, showing that cholesterol is not the big evil we think it is.

Let's take a closer look at what these findings really mean.

In this study, resveratrol produced changes associated with longer lifespan and produced the following biologic effects:

• It increased insulin sensitivity, leading to better blood sugar control.

• It reduced levels of insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-I), a molecule related to the growth hormone that promotes cancer growth.

• It increased AMP-activated protein kinase (AMPK), a signaling system in the body that controls insulin sensitivity and can prevent diabetes.

• It increased peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor coactivator-1 (PGC-1) activity. This is a critical signaling system that turns on genes that improve blood sugar control and improve mitochondrial function.

• It increased the numbers of mitochondria, which boosts the capacity to turn food into energy and burn calories.

• It improved motor function, making the old rats more agile.

• And finally, the resveratrol helped prevent the effects of aging by modifying 144 out of 153 metabolic pathways that are controlled by genes.

This all sounds good. And it is! But the most important thing that these findings tell us is ignored by Sinclair and his colleagues.

They tell us that aging and disease are controlled in large part by SUGAR and insulin function in the body!

In a moment I will explain how you can use this information to reverse disease, lose weight, and live longer and healthier. But first, let me tell you about the second study, which in some ways was even more dramatic.

That study, which was published in Cell  by Johan Auwerx from the Institute of Genetics and Molecular and Cell Biology in Illkirch, France, tested much higher doses of resveratrol in mice. These doses were 18 times higher than those in the first study. That's 400 mg/kg of resveratrol -- equal to about 360 daily capsules of resveratrol for a 130-pound person!

Imagine achieving the fitness of a trained athlete, staying thin, preventing diabetes and heart disease, and living to 120 years old -- all while eating a high-calorie, high-fat diet (and taking 360 pills a day of resveratrol)! That's the equivalent of what happened to the rats.

Specifically, the rats fed the high doses of resveratrol along with their high-calorie, high-fat diet showed the following effects:

• They did NOT gain weight, and reduced the size of fat cells.

• They didn't develop pre-diabetes or metabolic syndrome.

• They increased the number of energy-producing mitochondria in their muscle cells.

• Their metabolic thermostat was turned up and they increased fat burning by increasing thermogenesis.

• They increased their endurance and aerobic capacity (without exercise).

• They maintained their cells' sensitivity to insulin, resulting in better blood sugar control.

Plus, they had enhanced muscle strength, reduced muscle fatigue, and improved coordination. And resveratrol increased the activity of PGC-1 alpha, which in turn controls genes that affect blood sugar control -- with no bad effects on their organs.

This seems incredible! But it's all very plausible if you understand the root causes of obesity, aging, and disease. Those causes are blood sugar control and the health, number, and function of your mitochondria.

It's unlikely that taking ONLY resveratrol -- even at high doses -- will allow us to live a life of sloth and gluttony and be disease-free forever. But what these studies do tell us is VERY important.

When we view these findings from a systems perspective -- understanding ALL the influences on blood sugar control, insulin, and our mitochondrial function -- we can create a lifestyle and program that works to keep us healthy, thin, and young.

Recently, I was at a conference on longevity and aging and had a chance to converse with Dr. Leonard Guarente from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In 1995, Dr. Guarente discovered a gene called SIR-2 in yeast that controls longevity. He was a teacher of David Sinclair, who authored one of the recent studies on resveratrol I discussed above.

I asked Dr. Guarente what REALLY was at the root of the effects of this master gene that controls longevity (called SIRT-1 in humans). Resveratrol works through this gene. His answer was quite simple. It was ...

... SUGAR!

This gene has its master effects on aging by improving how the body controls sugar and insulin sensitivity.

This isn't really surprising. All the effects of aging are increased by worsening blood sugar control -- even before you get diabetes. People with diabetes have smaller and more poorly functioning mitochondria and get cancer, heart disease, and dementia at far greater rates than the general population.

So if we could fix our blood sugar control and boost our mitochondria, we could live longer and disease-free.

Considering this, let's look at the big picture again ...

Taking a magic pill just won't do the trick. That's especially true if you factor in all the other real-life insults that affect us, such as poor diet, stress, environmental toxins, and a sedentary lifestyle -- all of which affect blood sugar control and mitochondria.

Instead, you need to know ALL the factors that DAMAGE your blood sugar control and mitochondria. And you need to know ALL the factors that IMPROVE or boost your blood sugar control and mitochondria.

These are just the back-to-the-basics principles of functional medicine that I've been talking about for years -- identify the bad stuff and take it away; identify the good stuff and add it.

So what can you do to live longer and stay disease-free -- other than drink 1,500 bottles of wine or take 360 pills of resveratrol a day? Here is just a partial list!

Ten Tips to Help You Live a Longer and Healthier Life

1. Balance your blood sugar. I outline how in UltraMetabolism: increase your intake of whole foods that contain lots of fiber, such as beans, whole grains, vegetables, fruits, nuts, and seeds.

2. Eat protein with every meal. This helps balance your blood sugar. Include nuts, beans, fish, lean animal protein, and omega-3 eggs in your diet.

3. Increase your intake of omega-3 fats. These improve blood sugar control by working on the same cell-signaling mechanisms as resveratrol. Eat wild fish (salmon, sardines, black cod, and herring) or take omega-3 fatty acid pills (1,000 to 2,000 mg of EPA and DHA a day).

4. Eliminate or dramatically limit flour products. That means anything with sugar from any source.

5. Find ways to relax every day. This prevents diabetes and controls your blood sugar by reducing levels of cortisol, the stress hormone.

6. To boost your mitochondria, you will need to exercise and build muscle. Try interval training, a technique of exercising fast (like sprinting) for one minute and then more slowly (like fast walking) for three minutes. Repeat this in cycles totaling 30 minutes twice a week.

7. Eat foods with phytonutrients (http://www.ultrawellness.com/blog/eating-dinner-is-better-than-seeing-a-doctor). There are many protective ones other than resveratrol, including those found in green tea, pomegranate, and all dark, colorful fruits and vegetables.

8. Consider supplements that help protect and boost your mitochondria. These include Coenzyme Q10 (100 to 200 mg a day), acetyl-l-carnitine (500 to 1,000 mg twice a day), alpha-lipoic acid (100 to 200 mg twice a day), D-ribose (5 g once or twice a day), magnesium (150 to 300 mg twice a day), B-complex vitamins (daily), and NADH (5 to 10 mg a day).

9. Live clean and green. Limit your exposure to heavy metals, pollution, and other environmental toxins -- all of which poison your mitochondria.

10. Learn how to detoxify (http://www.ultrawellness.com/blog/ultrawellness-key-5). Support your body's detoxification system and your liver function.

This is just a start of what you can do.

Just remember -- you will need to take a comprehensive approach to health, leveraging the latest research to help you improve your metabolism, stay thin, and live longer. There are no quick fixes. But addressing your whole system will give you a huge advantage!

Now I'd like to hear from you ...

What do you think about the constant drive to find a "magic pill" to cure all our health woes?

Have you experienced any instances of looking at the big picture of your health versus trying to solve all your problems with a "magic pill"? What were the results?

Have you tried taking resveratrol supplements? Did you notice any effects?

What are you doing to improve your mitochondrial function?

Have you experienced any health or weight loss benefits by getting your own blood sugar and insulin under control?

Please let me know your thoughts by leaving a comment (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/resveratrol----eat-whatev_b_523624.html) below.

To your good health,

Mark Hyman, M.D.

Mark Hyman, M.D. practicing physician and founder of The UltraWellness Center is a pioneer in functional medicine. Dr. Hyman is now sharing the 7 ways to tap into your body's natural ability to heal itself. You can follow him on Twitter, connect with him on LinkedIn, watch his videos on Youtube and become a fan on Facebook.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 04, 2010, 09:07:14 am
How can we not take his advice...his first recommendation is to eat more beans!!  ;D
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Post by: Sason on April 04, 2010, 04:35:53 pm
How can we not take his advice...his first recommendation is to eat more beans!!  ;D

LOL!


 ;) ;D
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Post by: CellarDweller on April 04, 2010, 08:28:00 pm
No more beans!
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Post by: southendmd on April 05, 2010, 07:19:43 am
Weigh-in today!

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Post by: southendmd on April 05, 2010, 08:24:01 am
I'm down another 5 pounds, so I'm half-way to my goal!
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Post by: Front-Ranger on April 05, 2010, 09:55:58 am
That is most excellent friend!! Tell us your secrets!!

I lost three pounds last month, so I am within 2 pounds of my goal!!  :D
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Post by: Sason on April 05, 2010, 10:07:25 am
Way to go, Paul and Lee!!  Well done!!

You should be really proud of yourselves!!


Last month was still status quo for me, but as from now I'm starting on a fresh one!
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Post by: CellarDweller on April 06, 2010, 06:12:13 am
I'm down another 5 pounds, so I'm half-way to my goal!

Status quo for me, which I guess is ok, given holiday meals and candy.

Congrats to you, Paul!  I'm very proud of you!  (((hugs)))
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 06, 2010, 08:46:12 am
Status quo for me, which I guess is ok, given holiday meals and candy.

I gained two pounds over Easter weekend, but it seems to dropping off now as I get back to my regular eating habits.
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Post by: serious crayons on April 06, 2010, 09:15:43 am
I gained two pounds over Easter weekend, but it seems to dropping off now as I get back to my regular eating habits.

Not yet, for me, but I'm hopeful.

I was down to my lowest point early last week. But as of yesterday, I'm back up again.

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Post by: Front-Ranger on April 06, 2010, 09:49:04 am

10. Learn how to detoxify (http://www.ultrawellness.com/blog/ultrawellness-key-5). Support your body's detoxification system and your liver function.


I followed this link, and it was quite eye-opening. I'm planning to do a detoxifying regimen this spring. I have had some sinus congestion all winter long, plus I think it will be just the thing to help me lose those last two pounds I need to shed. Here are the primary sources of toxicity, according to Dr. Hyman:

• Exposure to heavy metals like mercury and lead, petrochemicals, residues, pesticides, and fertilizers.

• Food allergies, environmental allergies, molds, and toxins from molds.

• Eating a standard American diet.

• Mental, emotional, and spiritual toxins -- isolation, loneliness, anger, jealousy, and hostility, all of which translate into toxins in our system.

• Medications can sometimes be toxins. Often we need medications, but the reality is that most of us are overmedicated and use medications to treat problems for which there are better solutions, such as lifestyle and diet.

• Internal toxins -- things like bacteria, fungus, and yeast inside our gut as well as hormonal and metabolic toxins that we need to eliminate.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on April 07, 2010, 07:39:23 pm
One of the most valuable tips in this detoxifying article is to Avoid the White Menace! When you're trying to lose weight and improve health, avoid or cut down on white flour, white sugar, whole milk, white bread, white rice, potatoes, most boxed cereals, and salt! As well as items made with these ingredients. If it's white, don't bite! It works for me!!
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Post by: southendmd on April 07, 2010, 11:52:23 pm
So right, Lee.  I swear, I miss my morning bagel.  But, I had forsaken the white menace!

This very evening, Lynne and I shared a dinner of lovely crudités--celery, baby carrots, radishes--with little mozzarella balls, followed by sautéed jumbo shrimp that were marinated with olive oil, red pepper flakes, ginger, garlic and tangerine juice, and roasted broccoli.  All served with a cheeky Australian chardonnay.  No bread, rice, potatoes or pasta in sight!
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Post by: Front-Ranger on April 08, 2010, 12:03:12 am
Good fer you!! Oh, yes, I forgot about pasta.

Last night I made steak marinated in teriyaki sauce on a bed of green cabbage, sliced turnip, shallot, apples, and multicolored sweet peppers. I didn't cook anything but the steak! Then, I toasted a mixture of flax seeds and black and white sesame seeds and sprinkled them over the top. I drizzled all with olive oil and more teriyaki sauce. It was a big hit!!
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Post by: southendmd on April 11, 2010, 09:25:30 pm
I'm so fortunate--the pounds just keep melting away.  And, I'm loving my new way of eating.  It really seems like a life change I can live with.  I eat a whole lot less, but I eat fresh, whole foods that I love.  Recently, I noticed that I don't get hungry in the way I used to.  I feel more alert, and with more energy.

Of course, I always knew what was "good for me" for years, and just did the opposite LOL!  Now that I have embraced the change, it feels very doable. 

I may have to update my goal. 

Tonight's dinner:  lovely crudités:  celery, baby carrots, radishes, yellow peppers with a roasted red pepper hummus.  Followed by raw local Island Creek oysters from Duxbury, then seared, very rare tuna with a tamari/rice vinegar/garlic/ginger/sesame sauce.  Then a salad of frisée, mache, sunflower seeds and diced very ripe red pear (no dressing).  To top it off, coconut sorbet with fresh fruit salad (strawberries, blueberries, pineapple, mango).  A cheeky Australian chardonnay. 

I'm having so much fun losing weight!
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Post by: Lynne on April 11, 2010, 11:27:02 pm
I'm so fortunate--the pounds just keep melting away.  And, I'm loving my new way of eating.  It really seems like a life change I can live with.  I eat a whole lot less, but I eat fresh, whole foods that I love.  Recently, I noticed that I don't get hungry in the way I used to.  I feel more alert, and with more energy.

Of course, I always knew what was "good for me" for years, and just did the opposite LOL!  Now that I have embraced the change, it feels very doable. 

I may have to update my goal. 

Tonight's dinner:  lovely crudités:  celery, baby carrots, radishes, yellow peppers with a roasted red pepper hummus.  Followed by raw local Island Creek oysters from Duxbury, then seared, very rare tuna with a tamari/rice vinegar/garlic/ginger/sesame sauce.  Then a salad of frisée, mache, sunflower seeds and diced very ripe red pear (no dressing).  To top it off, coconut sorbet with fresh fruit salad (strawberries, blueberries, pineapple, mango).  A cheeky Australian chardonnay. 

I'm having so much fun losing weight!

I am really proud of you, Paul!  And I can vouch that this man is looking both trimmer and healthier!  I appreciate the times you've been having me over - I know I'm eating better then.

My overdue update is no change for the good; possibly bad - I'll have to look up where I started.  But I'm embarking on a new exercise program this week, so I'm not giving up hope!  Also a few life stressors have either been eliminated entirely or dialed themselves down somewhat, so I'm hopeful that keeping to a regular schedule will be easier.
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Post by: serious crayons on April 12, 2010, 01:07:15 am
I'm so fortunate--the pounds just keep melting away.  And, I'm loving my new way of eating.  It really seems like a life change I can live with.  I eat a whole lot less, but I eat fresh, whole foods that I love.  Recently, I noticed that I don't get hungry in the way I used to.  I feel more alert, and with more energy.

Of course, I always knew what was "good for me" for years, and just did the opposite LOL!  Now that I have embraced the change, it feels very doable. 

I may have to update my goal. 

Tonight's dinner:  lovely crudités:  celery, baby carrots, radishes, yellow peppers with a roasted red pepper hummus.  Followed by raw local Island Creek oysters from Duxbury, then seared, very rare tuna with a tamari/rice vinegar/garlic/ginger/sesame sauce.  Then a salad of frisée, mache, sunflower seeds and diced very ripe red pear (no dressing).  To top it off, coconut sorbet with fresh fruit salad (strawberries, blueberries, pineapple, mango).  A cheeky Australian chardonnay. 

I'm having so much fun losing weight!

That is great, P! That is a great feeling, isn't it? And your menus sound delish.

Not to dampen your enthusiasm in any way, but just as a cautionary tale, I have felt like that at times and then felt completely differently the following week. Weight loss, at times, is a struggle, and other times it seems to come so easily.

One thing that I do find really helps is avoiding carbs, though. The other night I went out to dinner and had grilled salmon and some really wonderful Brussels sprouts. I didn't miss the pasta/potato/rice thing at all, the dinner was delicious, and it felt healthy but not ascetic.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 12, 2010, 06:44:17 am
Ok, so I have a question for everyone....please be honest.

On the 22nd of this month, I'm staring the "Fat Smash" diet by Dr. Ian Smith. 

He's the doctor from the VH-1 show "Celebrity Fit Club", where overweight celebs go to lose weight.  On the most recent season, Jay McCarroll (winner of Project Runway) lost 40lbs in 9 weeks.

This was him before:

(http://fashiontribes.typepad.com/main/images/jay_blogging.jpg)

This is him now, with a fan:


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Anyway, I planned on doing frequent updates, but I don't want this thread to become "the chuck show".  If need be, I can always start a thread on my own blog about what the diet is like and how I feel going through it.  I don't want to take away from this thread, but at the same time, I don't want to take over the thread either.

Opinions?
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Post by: Front-Ranger on April 12, 2010, 08:25:33 am
Such an extreme diet worries me, Chuck. Also, are you sure that's not his head photoshopped onto another person's body?  :laugh: The photo looks fishy to me. But anyway, definitely check in here often ... we'll want to know how you're doing!

Me, I'm off to the gym this morning before work, because I didn't have a chance to exercise all weekend!!
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Post by: serious crayons on April 12, 2010, 08:30:39 am
That diet does sound a bit extreme. My understanding is that a weight loss that speedy is unlikely to be healthy or long-lasting. But if you're interested in trying it, Chuck, I don't see why you couldn't post about it here. That's what we're all doing, basically, isn't it -- whether we're on Dr. Ian Smith's Fat Smash diet or some other plan.

What foods does Fat Smash entail, Chuck?

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2010, 08:57:05 am
I dunno. Forty pounds in nine weeks is still less than five pounds a week. Maybe ten weeks would be a better time frame? Does anybody have an information on what is considered a "healthy" or "safe" amount to lose in a week?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2010, 08:58:27 am
When you're trying to lose weight and improve health, avoid or cut down on white flour, white sugar, whole milk, white bread, white rice, potatoes, most boxed cereals, and salt! As well as items made with these ingredients. If it's white, don't bite! It works for me!!

What about whole-grain flours and brown rice?
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Post by: CellarDweller on April 12, 2010, 09:13:19 am
Healthy weight loss should be between 2-4 pounds a week.  However, when starting a diet, that figure can be higher, and you shouldn't panic.  The body will level itself off shortly, and you'll see weight loss slow down to generally a 2 pound loss per week.

The "Fat Smash" diet was designed by Dr. Ian Smith, and has four phases to it.


Phase I - Detox - This phase lasts 9 days. In this phase you will eat mostly fruits and vegetables. The idea is to cleanse your body of junk and you eliminate things like alcohol and caffeine. By increasing fruits and vegetables you increase the body's ability to cleanse itself on the cellular level. You can eat all the fruits & veggies you want except white potatoes and avocados. You also can have the following daily: legumes/beans & tofu, 1 cup of oatmeal, 2 cups of brown rice, 2 cups low fat or 1% milk, 2 6oz yogurts and 4 egg whites (eggbeaters) only water & 2 cups of herbal tea to drink. You also get a very limited amount of olive oil dressing to use.


Phase II - Foundation - This phase lasts 3 weeks. In this phase you eat the same foods as phase I, except you will reintroduce lean meats like chicken turkey fish (except pork), 1 whole egg, unsweetend ceral, 1 oz of cheese, coffee 1 10 oz cup & 2 diet pops a day come back.


Phase III - Construction - This phase lasts 4 weeks. In this phase you eat the same foods as phase I & II except you will reintroduce whole wheat pasta and bread. Increase the amounts of protein, adds ff mayo & peanut butter, 2 whole eggs, 3 cups of lf milk now & 1.3 oz of lf/ff cheese, 2 cups of freshly squeezed juice & whole grains bread 4 slices a day, 1 cup of pasta and 1 desert serving per day.

Phase IV - The Temple - This phase is for life. In this phase you eat the same foods as phase I,II, & III. In addition to those foods, you can eat some white starches (ie. white rice, potatoes) as well as have a couple of glasses of wine or beer each week.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 12, 2010, 10:12:29 am
I dunno. Forty pounds in nine weeks is still less than five pounds a week. Maybe ten weeks would be a better time frame? Does anybody have an information on what is considered a "healthy" or "safe" amount to lose in a week?

I have always heard one to two pounds a week is healthy. Maybe that's geared for women -- men seem to lose weight faster, so perhaps their healthy weight-loss rate is a bit higher.

In years past, I have lost two pounds a week by very carefully following a low-calorie diet and exercising almost every day. That's about as fast as I can lose and still feel healthy. Those quick-but-healthy weight losses didn't last forever, but they did generally last a year or two. (I've been gaining and losing pretty much the same 20 pounds on and off since high school.)

I have also lost weight at a rate of about eight pounds a week by dropping all carbohydrates. But that loss didn't last more than a few weeks.

I have lost 10 pounds since October with a more casual approach to dieting. That is, sometimes I'm really careful and good about eating and exercising, and other times not. I feel happy that I've been able to lose, and maintain that loss, over a bunch of birthdays and holidays. But now I need to step up the pace so I can get rid of the remaining extra 10 or 15.

What about whole-grain flours and brown rice?

Whole grains are much better than processed. But IMO it's best to limit your intake of grains of any kind. I try to have at least a meal or two a day without them.

It's hard, because grains are so ubiquitous in our diet. And we've been told for years that, to limit fat intake, we should focus on grains as the basis for a meal (e.g., sandwiches, pasta with veggies and meat, rice with beans, etc.)

But I now believe that the best approach is to make the vegetables the center of the meal. Add lean protein. A bit of bread/pasta/rice on the side, if necessary. So, for example, think of salads, pureed vegetable soups, grilled vegetables, stir fries, etc. Make one of the above from whatever vegetables you have around. Throw in some good combination of onions, peppers, garlic, herbs, vinegar, citrus. Add whatever lean proteins are handy -- chicken or fish from last night's dinner, smoked salmon, a can of tuna or beans, tofu or edemame. If needed, have a small scoop of pasta or rice or polenta or bread with it. (Or play with these proportions -- if your pureed vegetable soup is proteinless, for example, have a piece of cheese toast on the side.)

If I eat something bread-y, I like to think of it as my dessert. And in terms of what it does in your body -- in my limited layperson's understanding, anyway -- I think it's very similar to what a sweet dessert would do: spikes your blood sugar. Only not as quickly or drastically if it's whole-grain rather than processed.

Less healthily, I also like to think of a glass of wine as my dessert. It's fruit, after all!  ;D





Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on April 12, 2010, 04:12:25 pm
I'm so fortunate--the pounds just keep melting away.  And, I'm loving my new way of eating.  It really seems like a life change I can live with.  I eat a whole lot less, but I eat fresh, whole foods that I love.  Recently, I noticed that I don't get hungry in the way I used to.  I feel more alert, and with more energy.

Of course, I always knew what was "good for me" for years, and just did the opposite LOL!  Now that I have embraced the change, it feels very doable.  

I may have to update my goal.  

Tonight's dinner:  lovely crudités:  celery, baby carrots, radishes, yellow peppers with a roasted red pepper hummus.  Followed by raw local Island Creek oysters from Duxbury, then seared, very rare tuna with a tamari/rice vinegar/garlic/ginger/sesame sauce.  Then a salad of frisée, mache, sunflower seeds and diced very ripe red pear (no dressing).  To top it off, coconut sorbet with fresh fruit salad (strawberries, blueberries, pineapple, mango).  A cheeky Australian chardonnay.  

I'm having so much fun losing weight!


That's wonderful, Paul!!

Keep up the good work!  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on April 12, 2010, 04:21:03 pm
I't so unfair......
Men lose weight a lot faster than women.....   >:(

And they can pee standing up!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2010, 06:29:22 pm
I't so unfair......
Men lose weight a lot faster than women.....   >:(

Must be biology. We need to be able to run away from sabre-toothed cats while we're out hunting, you need the extra fat to nourish the babies that grow inside you. ...

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And they can pee standing up!

But some of us don't have a very good aim. ...  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 12, 2010, 06:49:09 pm
But some of us don't have a very good aim. ...  8)

speak for yourself.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2010, 06:52:10 pm
speak for yourself.  ;D

What, you've never looked at the floor in a public men's room?

 :P
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 12, 2010, 09:48:29 pm
I't so unfair......
Men lose weight a lot faster than women.....   >:(

And they can pee standing up!


Yes, but we get the multiple orgasms...I'll take that over peeing while standing enni day!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 12, 2010, 10:58:26 pm
What about whole-grain flours and brown rice?

I was just thinking about this recently as I was looking at a loaf of whole grain bread. That is an oxymoron, because how can you have whole grain when it is ground up into flour? I suppose whole wheat bread is a little better than white bread, but even whole wheat flour doesn't have the wheat germ. Much better are wheat berries, the whole grain (seed) of wheat, which are delicious when cooked al dente and eaten with some olive oil and seasonings.

Other whole grains are amaranth, barley, buckwheat, bulgar wheat, couscous, kamut, millet, oats, quinoa, rye berries, spelt, teff, triticale, and corn. Try them all! I have a little book you can get free from Whole Foods that describes all the grains and how to cook them. It's one of my most used cookbooks!

As for rice, I find it rather boring, whether white or brown. When I order unagi at Tokyo Joes, I have it on top of brown rice, but I don't eat much of the rice.

A friend and I had a wonderful "Linner" at the Sherpa House last weekend, and feasted on fried rice and many vegetables as well as yak stew and Tandoori Chicken!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 13, 2010, 09:00:50 am
I was just thinking about this recently as I was looking at a loaf of whole grain bread. That is an oxymoron, because how can you have whole grain when it is ground up into flour?

Not really. Whole in this context does not mean in one piece. It means that all the components of the grain are present.

http://www.wheatfoods.org/AboutWheat-what-is-whole-grains/Index.htm (http://www.wheatfoods.org/AboutWheat-what-is-whole-grains/Index.htm)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 13, 2010, 09:17:40 am
That was an interesting link; thank you! Nevertheless, I still feel that whole wheat flour, even though it contains the bran, germ, and endosperm of the wheat grain, still doesn't provide all the benefits of eating the whole grain, but it is certainly better than eating white or even "wheat" flour.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 13, 2010, 09:54:25 am
That was an interesting link; thank you! Nevertheless, I still feel that whole wheat flour, even though it contains the bran, germ, and endosperm of the wheat grain, still doesn't provide all the benefits of eating the whole grain, but it is certainly better than eating white or even "wheat" flour.

I think eating whole wheat ground into flour would be the equivalent of eating broccoli pureed in a soup -- all the nutritious elements are there, just smashed up.

But when choosing bread, make sure "whole wheat" is the first ingredient. Often, bread makers will darken soft white bread with molasses to fool people into thinking what they're eating is healthier than regular white.


Much better are wheat berries, the whole grain (seed) of wheat, which are delicious when cooked al dente and eaten with some olive oil and seasonings.

Yum!  :)

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Other whole grains are amaranth, barley, buckwheat, bulgar wheat, couscous, kamut, millet, oats, quinoa, rye berries, spelt, teff, triticale, and corn.

Couscous is actually wheat formed into grain-sized pieces, like pasta. It comes in both white and whole-grain varieties.

 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 13, 2010, 10:20:48 am
Of couscous, you are correct, friend!  ;) Now, here's a great recipe for using bulgar. It's a type of wheat where wheat berries are cracked, boiled, and dried. You can cook bulgar by simmering it in twice its volume of water for about 20-25 minutes. After it has drained and cooled, mix 2 cups with a bunch of chopped parsley, some chopped tomato, 3 T. chopped fresh mint, 1 clove minced garlic, 3 green onions thinly sliced, 1/4 cup olive oil and the juice of one lemon. I also add some za'tar spice. Enjoy!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 13, 2010, 12:00:36 pm
Of couscous, you are correct, friend!  ;) Now, here's a great recipe for using bulgar. It's a type of wheat where wheat berries are cracked, boiled, and dried. You can cook bulgar by simmering it in twice its volume of water for about 20-25 minutes. After it has drained and cooled, mix 2 cups with a bunch of chopped parsley, some chopped tomato, 3 T. chopped fresh mint, 1 clove minced garlic, 3 green onions thinly sliced, 1/4 cup olive oil and the juice of one lemon. I also add some za'tar spice. Enjoy!!

An old friend of mine used to call it "kablooey."  :laugh:



Here's some more thought for food, posted yesterday on CNN.com.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/12/glycemic.diet.heart/index.html?eref=rss_health&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_health+%28RSS%3A+Health%29 (http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/12/glycemic.diet.heart/index.html?eref=rss_health&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_health+%28RSS%3A+Health%29)

White bread, rice, and other carbs boost heart disease risk in women
By Denise Mann, Health.com


STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    * Women who eat lots of carbs, (high glycemic index) are more likely to develop heart disease
    * Scientists speculate whether men's bodies process carbs differently
    * Cut out processed carbs and choose whole grains veggies, fruits, legumes


(Health.com) -- Women who eat more white bread, white rice, pizza, and other carbohydrate-rich foods that cause blood sugar to spike are more than twice as likely to develop heart disease than women who eat less of those foods, a new study suggests.

Men who eat lots of those carbohydrates -- which have what's known as a high glycemic index -- do not have the same increased risk, however, perhaps because their bodies process the carbs differently, the researchers found.

Only carbohydrates with a high glycemic index appear to hurt the heart. Carbs with a low glycemic index -- such as fruit and pasta -- were not associated with an increased risk of heart disease, which suggests that the increased risk is caused "not by a diet high in carbohydrates, but by a diet rich in rapidly absorbed carbohydrates," says the lead author of the study, Sabina Sieri, of the Fondazione IRCCS Istituto Nazionale dei Tumori, a national institute for cancer research in Milan, Italy.

The glycemic index ranks on a scale from 1 to 100 how quickly (or slowly) carbohydrates affect your blood-sugar levels. (White bread scores 100.) Foods that rank below 55 are considered to have a low glycemic index and produce only small fluctuations in blood glucose and insulin levels; foods that rank above 70 are said to have a high glycemic index and tend to cause unhealthy spikes in blood sugar.

In the study, published this week in the Archives of Internal Medicine, Sieri and her colleagues analyzed data from a large, ongoing study of nutrition and cancer risk. The researchers surveyed roughly 48,000 Italian adults about their diets in detail, noting the amount and types of carbohydrates they consumed on a regular basis. (People with diabetes, who have abnormal levels of blood sugar and insulin, were excluded.) Not surprisingly -- the study was conducted in Italy, after all -- bread, pasta, and pizza were common sources of carbs.

During the eight-year follow-up period, 463 people in the study -- 65 percent of them men -- experienced heart problems (including heart attacks), had angioplasty or bypass surgery, or died of heart-disease-related causes.

The women who reported eating the most carbohydrates had twice the risk of developing heart disease as their counterparts who consumed the fewest carbs.

When the researchers broke the carbs into high and low glycemic index categories, the increased risk was even more apparent: Women who ate the most high glycemic foods had about 2.25 times the risk of developing heart disease than women who consumed the fewest. (To isolate the effect of the carbs on heart health, the researchers took body weight, physical activity, saturated fat intake, smoking, and a range of other health factors into account.)

Men, by contrast, were not at increased risk for heart disease regardless of how many -- or what type of -- carbs they consumed. Although the researchers aren't certain why this is, they suggest that it may be in part because carbohydrates with a high glycemic index lower HDL (or good cholesterol) and raise triglycerides less readily in men than they do in women.

Previous studies have shown a similar link between glycemic index and heart disease risk, and a similar discrepancy between men and women. "We hope to be able to repeat this analysis on...more than 500,000 subjects in order to confirm our results," Sieri says.

Joanna McMillan Price, a nutritionist in Sydney, Australia, and the author of The Low GI Diet, says that the new study provides yet more evidence to support a diet that favors low versus high glycemic index foods. "That means cutting out processed carbs and choosing instead minimally processed whole grains and low-GI starchy vegetables, fruits, and legumes," she says.

There are many benefits to limiting foods with a high glycemic index, Price adds. People who do so "will find their appetite easier to control, making weight control easier in turn," she says. "They will help to keep energy and mood steady over the day, and they reduce their risk of several chronic diseases including diabetes, heart disease, and certain cancers."

According to Price, the best low glycemic index foods are whole-grain breads, barley, quinoa, beans and chickpeas, low-fat dairy products, fruit, and sweet potatoes.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on April 13, 2010, 03:21:10 pm
Must be biology. We need to be able to run away from sabre-toothed cats while we're out hunting, you need the extra fat to nourish the babies that grow inside you. ...

Really?   ;)

It's a long time since there was a baby growing inside me, and -- quite honestly -- how many sabre-toothed cats did you run away from lately?   ;D




Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 13, 2010, 05:07:19 pm
Here you go, Lee: sprouted-grain bread.

I was cleaning out a pile of clippings and came upon one about sprouted-train bread. It's not made with flour; instead, you soak wheat berries, barley and other grains in water until they germinate, then ground the sprouts into a dough before baking. The bread may have a lower glycemic index and be higher in protein, thiamin and riboflavin than regular whole-grain bread.

Mmmmmm .... riboflavin ...  :P

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on April 13, 2010, 05:39:40 pm
I weighed myself this lunchtime and actually.. depsite the sh*te exerecie routine and eating habits in the last few weeks, I guess the stress has made it fall off, as I'm actually the same weight as the last time I weighted myself 3 weeks ago.. so HURRAH! Which is 15 stones 2.

So yes, I've only lost 1lb so far in total but hey better than putting it on!!



Weighed myself today & I was 15 stone... I think these easytone reebok shoes that I got a few weeks ago are doing some good!

I haven't done a huge amount of exercise recently and haven't been watching what I eat much as I've been running about trying to get our house on the market and fill out applications/ getting ready for interviews.

So I'm quite happy with it!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 13, 2010, 10:24:28 pm
Geez, it's getting to the point where you can't trust the real scientists much more than you can the quacks and snake-oil salespeople and self-help gurus.


Slate Magazine

medical examiner
End the War on Fat
It could be making us sicker.
By Melinda Wenner Moyer
Posted Thursday, March 25, 2010, at 1:02 PM ET


Thirty years ago, America declared war against fat. The inaugural edition of Dietary Guidelines for Americans, published in 1980 and subsequently updated every five years, advised people to steer clear of "too much fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol," because of purported ties between fat intake and heart disease. The message has remained essentially the same ever since, with current guidelines recommending that Americans consume less than 10 percent of their daily calories from saturated fat.

But heart disease continues to devastate the country, and, as you may have noticed, we certainly haven't gotten any thinner. Ultimately, that's because fat should never have been our enemy. The big question is whether the 2010 Dietary Guidelines, due out at the end of the year, will finally announce retreat.

The foundation for the "fat is bad" mantra comes from the following logic: Since saturated fat is known to increase blood levels of "bad" LDL cholesterol, and people with high LDL cholesterol are more likely to develop heart disease, saturated fat must increase heart disease risk. If A equals B and B equals C, then A must equal C.

Well, no. With this extrapolation, scientists and policymakers made a grave miscalculation: They assumed that all LDL cholesterol is the same and that all of it is bad. A spate of recent research is now overturning this fallacy and raising major questions about the wisdom of avoiding fat, especially considering that the food Americans have been replacing fat with—processed carbohydrates—could be far worse for heart health.

Last year, Ronald Krauss, director of atherosclerosis research at the Children's Hospital Oakland Research Institute, teamed up with researchers in Sweden to tease out some of the more nuanced characteristics of LDL cholesterol and its role in heart health. The term "LDL cholesterol" refers to the cholesterol housed in low-density lipoprotein particles, and these particles come in a range of sizes. Krauss and his colleagues analyzed the LDL particles they found in blood samples taken a dozen years earlier from 4,600 Swedish men and women and discovered that concentrations of the small- and medium-sized LDL particles best predicted whether the subjects later developed heart disease. Larger LDL particles, they noted in their study, which was published in Arteriosclerosis, Thrombosis, and Vascular Biology, were essentially neutral with regard to the subjects' heart health.

This finding is particularly interesting in light of what Krauss had uncovered years earlier: Men who switch from a low-saturated-fat diet to one high in saturated fat experience an increase in total blood LDL cholesterol, as expected. But the change is mostly the result of a spike in the concentration of large LDL particles, not small. In other words, saturated fat consumption typically boosts the number of particles that Krauss has shown to be harmless.

Blood tests for LDL cholesterol might not even be a dependable indicator of your risk of heart disease. Take, for instance, the infamous Women's Health Initiative hormone trials. Though women on hormone replacement therapy experienced overall drops in LDL cholesterol, they did not suffer fewer heart attacks. The finding initially baffled trial investigators, but further analysis revealed that the women's LDL particle concentrations had remained exactly the same. Recently, researchers including James Otvos, a biochemist at North Carolina State University, have reported that cholesterol tests—the kind most doctors administer—accurately predict heart disease risk only about 70 percent of the time, because they ignore particle size. (Otvos' company, LipoScience, plans to start selling particle-based cholesterol tests to doctors' offices later this year.)

LDL particles are not the only factor in fat's exoneration. Large population-based studies are, too. A 2006 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, based on data collected from 82,802 women, found that the subjects who consumed the highest percentage of their daily calories from fat (including saturated fat) did not experience an increased risk of developing heart disease later in life. In fact, women who ate the highest amounts of vegetable fat—from foods like olive oil and nuts—had lower risks of heart disease than women on low-fat diets. A meta-analysis co-authored by Krauss and published in the March 2010 American Journal of Clinical Nutrition compared the reported food intakes of nearly 350,000 men and women with their cardiovascular health years later and also found no connection between saturated fat intake and heart or vascular disease.

Ultimately, saturated fat—named because it contains no double bonds, so all of its carbon atoms are saturated with hydrogen atoms—may be neutral for the heart. Meanwhile, some mono-unsaturated fats (which have one double-bond and are found in many nuts) and some poly-unsaturated fats (which have multiple double bonds and are found in fatty fish) could be good for the heart. For instance, a meta-analysis published in PLoS Medicine this month reports that the substitution of polyunsaturated fat for saturated fat can cut heart disease risk.

If saturated fat doesn't adversely affect cardiovascular health, what does? Sorry, Nabisco: We should be giving a closer look to foods with a high glycemic index—a measure that reflects a food's influence on blood sugar levels, based on how quickly it is digested and absorbed. Typically, that means carbohydrates like cereal, bread, chips, and cookies.

In a 2000 study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Harvard researchers compared the food intakes of 75,521 women with their health over the course of a decade and found that the quintile of women who ate food with the highest glycemic load—a measure that incorporates portion size—had twice the risk of developing heart disease than the quintile who ate food with the lowest glycemic load. A 2008 meta-analysis of 37 studies reported a significant association between intake of high glycemic index foods and increased risk of type 2 diabetes, heart disease, gallbladder disease, and breast cancer. Some studies suggest, however, that the bad effects of high-G.I. foods can be tempered by pairing them with low-G.I. foods. For instance, a piece of white bread smeared with peanut butter may be healthier than a piece of white bread alone.

The link between carbohydrates and heart disease is also supported by LDL particle data. In a 2008 study published in Nutrition Research, researchers reported that subjects who followed high-fat, low-carb diets for eight weeks experienced a 46 percent drop in blood concentrations of small LDL particles, while those who followed a high-carb, low-fat diet experienced a 36 percent spike in them. What's more, processed carbohydrates lower "good" HDL cholesterol, whereas saturated fat increases it.

Just as different fats affect the body in dissimilar ways, it seems that sugars are not all created equal. Though fructose actually has a lower glycemic index, it may be a bit less healthy than glucose, a sugar with the same chemical formula but a different structure. (Sucrose, or table sugar, is 50 percent glucose and 50 percent fructose; high-fructose corn syrup is typically 55 percent fructose and 45 percent glucose.) Research published by Peter Havel, a professor of nutrition at the University of California-Davis, suggests that compared with glucose, fructose incites less of an insulin response, which ultimately results in lower circulating levels of the appetite-suppressing hormone leptin and higher levels of the appetite-boosting hormone ghrelin—so fructose may make you hungrier.

It could also put you at greater risk of heart disease and diabetes. When overweight people supplemented their diets with drinks sweetened either with fructose or with glucose for 10 weeks, fructose drinkers ended up with higher concentrations of small LDL particles in their blood after they ate. They also experienced, on average, a 20 percent drop in insulin sensitivity—low insulin sensitivity is a risk factor for type 2 diabetes—over the course of the experiment compared with the glucose drinkers. (Havel believes that the glycemic index is ultimately flawed and that a "fructose index" might be a better nutrition metric.)

In any case, it seems that processed carbohydrates are America's most deserving nutritional enemy. And our misguided war against fat has just made us more addicted to them, because when people cut out fat, they typically turn to "diet" foods high in carbs—SnackWells, Baked Lays, even low-fat Jif, which contains the same number of calories as the regular version, with less peanut butter and more "corn syrup solids." That's not to say that all carbs are bad; fiber is a carbohydrate, and an important one. And there is still a lot left to be desired about certain fats. Trans fats really are bad for you, and foods very high in omega-6 polyunsaturated fats—such as corn oil and margarine—are not particularly healthy, either. But overall, Americans could stand to start replacing carbs with fat. More bacon, fewer Bacos.

Will this new research on fat and carbs will be reflected in the 2010 Dietary Guidelines? According to Meir Stampfer, a Harvard professor of nutrition and epidemiology who worked on the 2000 guidelines, scientists on this year's committee know perfectly well what the evidence says. But few researchers want to shake the status quo or risk confusing the public. Robert Post, deputy director of the U.S. Department of Agriculture Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion, admits that when it comes to nutritional recommendations, "simple messages, few messages, targeted messages, are very important." Ultimately, then, policymakers have to choose between keeping the message consistent and actually getting it right.

Melinda Wenner Moyer is a science writer living in Brooklyn, N.Y.


http://www.slate.com/id/2248754/ (http://www.slate.com/id/2248754/)

Copyright 2010 Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive Co. LLC

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 13, 2010, 10:53:38 pm
Well, that was a confusing article! But it seems to indicate what Julia and I have always felt...everything in moderation! I don't know how many times I have told my husband that my son should be allowed more fat in his diet because "The brain is made out of fat!" (an oversimplification, but true!) Bring on the butter, olive oil, and fatty fish!!

And...good for you, Kelda!!!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 22, 2010, 08:44:49 am
Well, today is the day!

i've started my new Fat Smash diet!  Oh boy!

Oh, and to properly track my loses, I re-weighed myself.  Of course, being away to Florida and eating and drinking what I wanted took a toll.  I'm back up to 233 pounds.

 ::) >:(

The goal in the 9 weeks is to get anywhere from 203 to 193.

 ::) :laugh:

Anyway, the first 9 days are the "cleansing/detox" period.  I've already had my egg white breakfast, and have a 10am snack of brocoli and cauliflower with a great fat free dressing I've found, "Wasabi Dijon".

;D

On my second bottle of water as well.


however, tempation lurks around the corner of my cube!

:o




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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on April 22, 2010, 09:01:43 am
Good luck with getting Smashed, Chuck.  And be careful. 

(Such evil coworkers you have...)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 22, 2010, 09:07:46 am
Wow, that's what I call a hazardous workplace! You should have your coworkers hide that stuff in their desks or take it home! Yech!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 22, 2010, 09:15:40 am
Once you avoid that stuff for a week or so, it won't even seem all that appealing.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on April 22, 2010, 03:57:20 pm
Good luck, Chuck!

I hope it'll be well worth the effort for you!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 22, 2010, 03:58:12 pm
so do I!

 :laugh:

It's 4pm right now, I've made it though the day sticking to the diet.  ;D
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Post by: Kelda on April 22, 2010, 03:59:15 pm
Go you!!

so do I!

 :laugh:

It's 4pm right now, I've made it though the day sticking to the diet.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on April 22, 2010, 03:59:39 pm
Well done!   ;)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on April 22, 2010, 10:15:11 pm
Good for you, Chuckie!

I doubt I will have any losses to report. In addition to being inert most of the week (and the grossness that was Wendy's today), I decided eating *THREE* pints of Ben and Jerry's was a good plan this past week.

Bummed about Brokie travel that isn't in my future?  Oh, yeah.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Ellemeno on April 23, 2010, 02:31:19 am
Oh, right, this thread.  I just got caught up on the last 35 pages over the last few days.

Paul, so sorry to hear about the plantar fascitis.  Remember walking through the Denver airport with me as I hobbled along in agony?  Oy.  Not so funny now that you have it, is it?  (That's a quote from Julia Sweeney's "God Said Ha."  I know you weren't laughing at me.)  One thing that helped is high-quality cold water fish oil.  It's great for reducing inflammation for me.

I'll try not to be a stranger to this thread.  I do tend to have edamame in my freezer and made some tonight.  Along with broccoli and tortellini.  



Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 23, 2010, 08:47:46 am
Good morning Brokies!

I've made an executive decision that I will weigh myself daily.  I know "they" say not to, but I've found I keep better control over my eating and exercise if I keep myself on the scale regularly.

I'll be using the scale that came with the Wii Fit (now Wii Fit Plus) that we have.

I've also started a diet ticker to keep track.

Imagine my surprise when I got on the scale today, to have the Wii tell me I've lost three pounds already.

:o



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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 23, 2010, 10:00:08 am
I've made an executive decision that I will weigh myself daily.  I know "they" say not to, but I've found I keep better control over my eating and exercise if I keep myself on the scale regularly.

Hey, Sweetie! I'm sure no expert on weight loss (on gain maybe, but not on loss  :-\), but this is what I do--weigh myself daily, and always at the same time. That way if I find that I'm "trending upward," I can adjust my intake.

Good luck with the new plan.  :)  :-*
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 23, 2010, 10:17:43 am
Hey, Sweetie! I'm sure no expert on weight loss (on gain maybe, but not on loss  :-\), but this is what I do--weigh myself daily, and always at the same time. That way if I find that I'm "trending upward," I can adjust my intake.

Good luck with the new plan.  :)  :-*


Thanks sweetie!

And just to let you know, the Wii Fit gives advice when you use it, and one thing it specifies is the need to weigh yourself at the same time of day.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 23, 2010, 10:34:37 am
Not so funny now that you have it, is it?  

Ain't so lonely now that he has it, is it?

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Ellemeno on April 23, 2010, 11:06:34 am
Ain't so lonely now that he has it, is it?




That line fits better.  And I'm grateful to say that I have been much healed for a couple of years.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Penthesilea on April 23, 2010, 11:31:50 am
Poor Chuckie! Such a tough diet, and so many temptations easily availabe at the workplace!
But hey, already a success! :D So no poor Chuckie, but Go Chuck! instead!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on April 23, 2010, 11:33:30 am

That line fits better.  And I'm grateful to say that I have been much healed for a couple of years.

LOL.  With conservative treatment, my foot is a whole lot better, and I am able to walk just fine.  I got a snazzy pair of Nike AirMax shoes to boot!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 23, 2010, 12:03:14 pm
LOL.  With conservative treatment, my foot is a whole lot better, and I am able to walk just fine.  I got a snazzy pair of Nike AirMax shoes to boot!


Good to hear, BBP!  And I owe you a phone call!  ;)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on April 23, 2010, 03:23:04 pm
Ain't so lonely now that he has it, is it?



I was thinking exactly the same! LOL!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on April 23, 2010, 03:25:05 pm
Way to go Chuck, and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 24, 2010, 10:49:14 am
according to the Wii, I've lost another 2 pounds.


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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 24, 2010, 11:25:32 am
Ain't so lonely now that he has it, is it?

hehe, I watched that scene last night...it was Hot!!

Now that I've gone back to work pretty much full time, I'm waiting to see if I can sustain my fitness level, or at least not start gaining weight again. I have only been able to work out 2-3 times a week, but I have stepped up my workout to a full hour. On Wednesday, I arrived home tired and very very hungry (although I'd eaten a square breakfast and lunch). I mentioned that I would work out after dinner, but my husband ordered me to go down to the clubhouse immediately. I didn't think I'd be able to put in a decent workout, but got my second wind and had a fine workout after all. So, I'm not going to let hunger stop me in the future.

It's not the time at the desk that is bad so much as the time in the car. My commute is 35 miles...each way!! I make the time go by by listening to Wait Wait Don't Tell Me on my ipod. I exercise my mind, but unfortunately not my body!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 25, 2010, 12:55:37 pm
As of today, (Sunday 25th) I've lost another pound.

;D



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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 25, 2010, 03:48:44 pm
I didn't think I'd be able to put in a decent workout, but got my second wind and had a fine workout after all. So, I'm not going to let hunger stop me in the future.

Working out frequently gives me my second wind. It takes the edge off my appetite, too.  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 26, 2010, 06:22:08 am
Morning everyone!


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No new weight loss, but I expected that.  I can't imagine losing more than 7 pounds in one week, and since I've lost six already, I figured I'm good for maybe one more pound.   LOL

Also, I didn't work out yesterday.  Dr. Ian's book recommends taking one (possibly two) days as rest days.  I stayed on the diet, but didn't do any exercise.

Started  this morning with a quick 15 minute workout.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 27, 2010, 06:35:33 am

Morning everyone!


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Starting my 6th day of "Fat Smash" and I've lost 8 pounds so far!  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on April 27, 2010, 09:17:16 am
You go, Chuck!! You got the energy to work out while you're on that starvation diet??
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 27, 2010, 10:13:28 am
Thanks for the encouragement, FRiend Lee!

Actually in regards to this diet and working out, the book "Fat Smash Diet" recommends 30 minutes a day of a workout while on the detox part, and then gradually increasing it as your food intake increases.

Also, I wouldn't call it a "starvation" diet, as you can eat all the greens and fruit that you want.  While you shouldn't overeat, if you get hungry you can eat some fruit or veggies.

This is the schedule they lay out in the diet.

8:00am - Breakfast (today for me was oatmeal)

10:00am - snack.  I'm having some wheat crackers (you allowed 7 a day) and some fruit.

12:00pm - lunch.  I'll have salad with egg whites and chick peas for protein.

3:00pm - snack.  I'll have yogurt (you're allowed 6oz a day) with fresh raspberries.

6:00pm will be dinner.

9:00pm  last snack, then bed.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 28, 2010, 06:30:53 am

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One more pound gone.  If I can lose one more pound by the 1st, I'll have lost 10 pounds in 9 days.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on April 28, 2010, 08:33:26 am
Way to go, Chuckles! 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 28, 2010, 08:47:27 am
Thanks Big Brother Paul!

 ;D

I'm finally feeling like I'm doing it right!   ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on April 28, 2010, 10:28:48 am
I was at 220 this morning, a loss of 14 lbs. so far this year.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 28, 2010, 10:30:16 am
I was at 220 this morning, a loss of 14 lbs. so far this year.

Truman, you're just gonna waste away to nuthin'. ...
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 28, 2010, 11:26:23 am
Congrats Truman!

 ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on April 28, 2010, 04:02:05 pm
Congrats Chuckie and Truman!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 29, 2010, 09:33:38 am


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No weight change today.....didn't lose, but didn't gain.  ;)

2 more days to lose a pound, and be in the double digits in just only 9 days.  ;D
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Post by: CellarDweller on May 01, 2010, 10:35:07 am
Hello BetterMost Dieters!!!


Today starts "Phase 2" of my Fat Smash Diet, but first....




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In 9 days, I've lost 10 pounds in total!   I'm sure the weight lose will start to slow, as this Phase starts to introduce new foods to the diet, to expand the menu.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on May 01, 2010, 11:11:39 am
You made it friend!! Whoo-hooo!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on May 01, 2010, 12:32:54 pm
Congrats Chuckie!!

Well done!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on May 01, 2010, 01:25:22 pm
Yes, VERY impressive!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on May 01, 2010, 02:03:05 pm
Chuckie, that's smashing!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 01, 2010, 03:28:30 pm
;D

Here is my current diet in phase 2 (daily quantities for the next three weeks):

All fruits in any quantity

All vegetables in any quantity except white potatoes

chickpeas, tofu, beans, lentils

2 cups of cooked brown rice

2 cups of low-fat or skim or soy milk

1 cup of oatmeal

6oz of low-fat yogurt

4 egg whites

2 cups of herbal tea

1 veggie burger without bread

(new additions this week)

4 oz of chicken, turkey, extra lean ground beef, sirloin steak.

4 oz of sea food

1 whole egg (in place of the 4 egg whites)

2oz of cheese

1/2 cup of cottage cheese

One cup of unsweetened breakfast cereal

1 cup of coffe a day

2 cans of diet soda
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on May 01, 2010, 04:39:11 pm
Our next weigh-in is Monday, May 3!

Howzitgoin?

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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on May 01, 2010, 04:43:24 pm


Howzitgoin?



Not....   >:( >:(
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 01, 2010, 08:42:16 pm
Boo-hoo. I gained 2.5 pounds this month. I'm hoping it's just because I weighed myself early in the morning, but I have a feeling it's not. The good news is, I have two days to try to lose it again!!

Welcome back to the working, commuting world, Lee.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 01, 2010, 09:05:53 pm
A couple more weight loss tips. I started to catch myself when I was just about to eat something just to get rid of it. You know when you are cleaning out the kitchen or the fridge or cleaning up after dinner, and you are tempted to eat something just so you don't have to look at it anymore? In my house, this is usually something starchy like rice or pasta. Well, now I just throw it out, or give it to the chickens, or put it in the compost. Those bites add up, and they don't give you any pleasure, either!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on May 02, 2010, 06:37:53 am
Weighed myself today.

14stones 13lbs - 1lb lost since april 3th.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Monika on May 02, 2010, 06:41:31 am
I hate weighing myself so you won´t get any numbers from me, but the good news is that I´ve started going to the gym two or three times a week and eating less and healthier. My main motivation is to be more fit for the summer so that I can do a bit of hiking. The hike up Moose Mountain gave me a longing for more of the same :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 02, 2010, 11:28:39 am
That's great to hear Buffy, and congrats to Kelda!



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I've lost another pound, total of 11 pounds gone so far.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 03, 2010, 06:49:47 am
Our next weigh-in is Monday, May 3!

Howzitgoin?

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No new weight lost since yesterday's weigh-in, so a total of 11 pounds gone so far.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on May 03, 2010, 07:30:03 am
Any room in that little VW bug, Chuckie? 

I'm down another 7, for a total of 22 since January, 27 since before the holidays!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 03, 2010, 11:08:26 am
Sure thing, BBP!

Jump in!

*opens door*
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on May 03, 2010, 11:21:10 am
Paul and Chuck, way to go!  Congrats!  8)  8)  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on May 03, 2010, 02:36:26 pm
Yes amazing!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on May 03, 2010, 04:45:31 pm
Congrats Paul and Chuck!!

You're both doing so great!    :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on May 03, 2010, 06:42:18 pm
I don't own a scale but I'm pretty sure I've made little progress.

I've decided to try a new approach - I'm going to add good foods instead of taking away bad foods. My theory is that my brain will be happier if it isn't in deprive mode, and that since I'm filling up on good things, there won't be time or craving for the bad.
So last week was pretty easy - vitamins and calcium every day and brown rice instead of white.

This week I'm committing to a yogurt and two fresh fruits per day.

Next week, I'm going to add a few almonds and green salads daily.

Maybe it'll work :/  We'll see.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 07, 2010, 07:51:05 am
That sounds like a very good plan, Lynne!

According to the book Fit for Life for Women, you don't need to weigh yourself to keep track of how fit you are. Just get a pair of jeans or pants that are tight on you, and try them on weekly and keep track of how they fit. I've been thrilled to be able to fit into some of my skinny jeans again!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 08, 2010, 10:10:02 am

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Days on Fat Smash Diet = 17.   Pounds lost = 13.

 ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 12, 2010, 06:07:35 am
Weight update.


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3 weeks on the Fat Smash Diet, and 14 pounds are gone.  Average of almost 5 pounds a week.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on May 12, 2010, 06:17:33 am
That's great news, Chuck! :*
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 14, 2010, 10:02:44 am
Diet update!



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Down one more pound, 15 lost all together!  ;D

I'm going to NYC tonight, and I'm wearing the jacket that I wore in Colorado, it's the first time I've been able to fit in it in a long time!

;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 14, 2010, 11:19:34 am

I'm going to NYC tonight, and I'm wearing the jacket that I wore in Colorado, it's the first time I've been able to fit in it in a long time!

;D

Woo-hoo!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on May 14, 2010, 12:19:46 pm
Yay, Chuck!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 15, 2010, 04:22:38 pm
Well, I went out last night to what I thought was a night club.

There was a show goin' on, and I knew I'd be out late, so I had a light snack at 9:00, and thought that would be it.

Turns out the place is not only a "club", but also a bar with bar/pub food.

Come about 1:00am I'm hungry, and everyone is ordering food.  So I ended up eating some fried raviolis, a potato skin, and a small slice of Hawiian pizza.

I was sure I'd have gained weight today.

I got on my Wii scale after doing a workout, to see I had lost 2 ounces instead of gaining.

;D

I'm planning to make sure I eat extremely healthy today and tomorrow to make sure I continue my loss trend.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 15, 2010, 05:15:52 pm
You must have danced it all off, Chuck!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 16, 2010, 09:36:25 am
You must have danced it all off, Chuck!

I guess I did!


;D


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Very happy!  Really watching what I ate yesterday, and doing extra workouts worked.  I lost 2 pounds, I'm down to 216, with a total of 17 pounds gone.

1 more pound and I'll be down to the weight I was when I was in colorado, and leave only 30 pounds to go to my goal.

;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on May 16, 2010, 02:51:21 pm
go chuck!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Ellemeno on May 18, 2010, 04:57:41 pm
The rest of us don't seem to have as much to report as you do, Chuck.

:)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 18, 2010, 06:49:17 pm
Heck, even I've slowed down a bit right now.  That's to be expected.

I still weigh myself daily, it's easier for me to track and keep an eye on everything I need to, but if there's not a significant loss to report (a pound or more) I don't post it.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on May 19, 2010, 08:29:51 am
if there's not a significant loss to report (a pound or more) I don't post it.

That's been my problem for months, as I've been veeeerrrrrrryyyyy gradually going down. Between October, when I started Weight Watchers, and January, when I started IWIKHtLY--TWLT(cfp), I lost 7 or 8 lbs. Not the two-pound a week rate I've sometimes achieved in the past, but I figured that was because it was over the holidays. Since then, though, during what is typically my best time of year for weight loss, I've only lost another 5 or 6. So altogether, maybe 14 lbs over 6 1/2 months. Not a very precipitous drop.

Still, better than nothing!

I'd like to step it up a bit, though. I have a goal at the end of July: a big high-school all-class reunion. They have them every five years, a street dance in a cute little touristy town nearby, and they're always really fun. In the post-Facebook era, this one should be even better. At my current weight-loss rate, I'll lose another 5 lbs by then. That would be better than nothing, but ideally I'd like to lose at least twice that much.

Anyway, I like to tell myself that losing this slow is a good thing, that I'm retraining my habits and the loss will last forever this time.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on May 19, 2010, 04:26:28 pm
The rest of us don't seem to have as much to report as you do, Chuck.

:)

Hmm....... no we don't, and I wonder why..... ::) ::) ::)


 ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 19, 2010, 06:31:57 pm
Anyway, I like to tell myself that losing this slow is a good thing, that I'm retraining my habits and the loss will last forever this time.

I believe you're correct.  I've heard the slower you lose the weight, the more likely it is to stay off.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on May 22, 2010, 10:33:13 am
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Lost two more pounds.  In one month's time, I've lost 20 pounds.  ;D  An average of 5 pounds a week.  ;D

4 more pounds, and I'll be halfway to my goal.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on May 22, 2010, 07:47:41 pm
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Lost two more pounds.  In one month's time, I've lost 20 pounds.  ;D  An average of 5 pounds a week.  ;D

4 more pounds, and I'll be halfway to my goal.  ;D

Wow!  The Fat-Smash diet has lived up to its name.  Congrats on sticking with it, Chuck.  8)
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Post by: Front-Ranger on May 26, 2010, 09:03:35 am
After a week of partying and stress, I stepped on the scales to find I had LOST weight rather than gained! You could have felled me with a feather! Apparently I danced off all of my daughter's wedding cake that I ate and the rich dessert from the graduation banquet for my son. Now I am almost back to the point where I was when I started my new job...only 3.5 pounds to lose till I reach my goal!!
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Post by: CellarDweller on May 26, 2010, 10:49:47 am
Very cool Lee!

Congrats!
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Post by: CellarDweller on May 29, 2010, 09:22:42 pm
Hiya everyone!

Been three days since I posted here.......haven't lost new weight, but still on the Fat Smash diet, Phase 3.

This phase is a month long......I've decided that if I don't make my goal by the end of this phase, instead of going to Phase 4, I'll go back to Phase 1, when I lost 10 pounds in 9 days, and see if I can jump start the weight loss again.

This weekend I've been invited to no BBQs (thankfully) so I'll be ok on the diet.  The next two weekends I'll be at Brokie gatherings, so I have to be careful and not allow myself to fall back into bad habits.
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Post by: CellarDweller on June 01, 2010, 11:44:15 am

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Yaaaaaaaaaay!

After some time feeling I was stuck at a plateau, I've lost another pound.  21 in total!

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Post by: CellarDweller on June 02, 2010, 05:53:22 am

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Another pound gone!  22 down, 26 to go!
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Post by: Front-Ranger on June 02, 2010, 08:40:10 am
You're back in business Chuck! I admire your tenacity!!

This warm weather is encouraging me to eat right! Yesterday I ate a granola/plain yogurt/berry/banana parfait for breakfast, a vegetarian flatbread sandwich and a cup of fruit for lunch, and for dinner I had two bites of tuna, a half avocado, some lettuce, and some seeds and nuts. For dessert, I ate a small slice of home-baked rhubarb pie!

Today I had another parfait for breakfast, only instead of granola, I had grape nuts, or what my husband calls "pea gravel". I find it very delicious! There was a Health Fair at work with free lunch, so I had a chicken "sloppy joe" with an ear of corn, beans (yay!), cole slaw, and 1.5 oz of chips. For dinner, I drank a raspberry ice tea. I went to help my friends move a concrete block wall (it was mostly just cheerleading) and then stopped by my mom's, who pressed on me some potato salad, jello, and cashew cookies. On the way home, I ate two of the cookies. The rest of the food went in the fridge for my son.
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Post by: CellarDweller on June 03, 2010, 05:59:05 am
Sounds very healthy, Lee!

Hope that everyone is doing well today!!!


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Another pound gone!  1 more, and I'm at the halfway point!  ;D
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Post by: southendmd on June 07, 2010, 08:41:12 am
Another weigh-in today!

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Post by: southendmd on June 07, 2010, 08:42:50 am
Congrats to Chuckie on reaching his halfway point!

Meanwhile, I lost another 8, so I have reached my goal!!!

Now what?  Maybe I'll revise my goal and lose a little more....
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Post by: CellarDweller on June 08, 2010, 06:46:11 am
Big Brother Paul!  Congrats on reaching your goal!!!  That's great!

 ;D


BTW, the scale with the heart on it, isn't that just so positive?   :laugh:

Well, I almost reached my halfway point, and had one pound to go, and gained 5 ounces over the weekend.  I'm glad I was careful and didn't undo all my hard work!

I should be back down to 210, and then officially at 209 (and halfway point) soon!   ;D
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Post by: southendmd on June 08, 2010, 06:52:03 am
Big Brother Paul!  Congrats on reaching your goal!!!  That's great!

 ;D
Thanks, Chuckie.
Quote
BTW, the scale with the heart on it, isn't that just so positive?   :laugh:
Isn't it though?
Quote
Well, I almost reached my halfway point, and had one pound to go, and gained 5 ounces over the weekend.  I'm glad I was careful and didn't undo all my hard work!

I should be back down to 210, and then officially at 209 (and halfway point) soon!   ;D
Chuckie, you look mahvelous!
Sticking to a diet during Brokie weekends, with all the chowing down, sure is challenging.  I feel like I ate nothing but oysters!
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Post by: serious crayons on June 08, 2010, 10:39:21 am
You have to watch out for those Broketails!

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Post by: Sason on June 09, 2010, 04:26:59 pm
Congrats on reaching your goal Paul!!!!

That is so awesome!!!!


 :-*
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Post by: Meryl on June 09, 2010, 04:30:06 pm
Congrats big time, Paul!  I noticed how slim and fabulous you were looking in the pics from the Brokie train trip.  Way to go!  8)

Chuck, you're a wonder.  Congrats on sticking to it!  8)
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Post by: Sason on June 09, 2010, 04:31:51 pm
And congrats Chuck on being able to keep the gain a minimum over the weekend. You'll lose it again soon enough!
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Post by: CellarDweller on June 09, 2010, 06:55:00 pm
Thanks Meryl and Sonja!

But I won't lose it quickly after today!

 :laugh:

There was a pot luck luncheon at work today for a coworker who is expecting her first baby.  I ate stuff that was REALLY not on my diet.  LOL

I made up for it by having a small bowl of cereal for breakfast and for dinner.  I did a gym workout after work, and will do a second one this evening.
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Post by: southendmd on June 09, 2010, 07:01:17 pm
You have to watch out for those Broketails!

Sure enough!  Light on the cherry and heavy on the club soda!

Congrats on reaching your goal Paul!!!!

That is so awesome!!!!


 :-*

Thanks, Sonja! 

Congrats big time, Paul!  I noticed how slim and fabulous you were looking in the pics from the Brokie train trip.  Way to go!  8)

Thanks, Priestess.  Train food was way off my diet!  But I recovered. 
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Post by: RouxB on June 10, 2010, 01:59:54 am
Chuckie and Paul you are inspirations to me! I am determined that next summer you Brokes will see me in my skinny jeans.

 O0
(I am reclaiming my identity from Monika)
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Post by: RouxB on June 10, 2010, 02:04:13 am
oh yeah,

GOAL: incredibly small skinny jeans hanging in my closet.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on June 10, 2010, 04:00:43 am
You can do it friend!!

For the weigh-in, I stand at 4 pounds from my goal. I am thankful that, after starting a desk job again, I have only gained 2 pounds. I'm off to tramp through the British Isles, and I plan to stay away from the Scotch as much as possible, and lose those last four pounds!!
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Post by: CellarDweller on June 21, 2010, 08:52:56 pm
Hiya Brokies!

I haven't updated in a while, but I'm still working on the Fat Smash diet and hitting my goal.

My weight has yo-yoed a bit in recent weekes, I've been going up and down between 215 & 210.  With recent trips, less exercise time, and more food around, the weight loss has slowed.  I'm refocusing this week, and we'll see if I can get the weight to start falling back off again.
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Post by: RouxB on June 21, 2010, 09:08:24 pm
my rings are falling off but I think they are just trying to escape from me  ::)

 O0


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Post by: CellarDweller on June 21, 2010, 09:15:01 pm
my rings are falling off but I think they are just trying to escape from me  ::)

 O0

Nah!  Who would want that?  ;D
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Post by: CellarDweller on June 28, 2010, 06:27:47 am
Oh, I've decided instead of moving on to Phase 4 of the Fat Smash diet today, I'm going back to Phase 1 for the next 9 days, and see if I can jump start some more weight loss.

If it has the same effect as last time ( I lost 10 pounds in the 9 days) I'll be well past the halfway point, and close to 200 pounds.

;D

Wish me luck!
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Post by: Meryl on June 28, 2010, 12:08:46 pm
Good luck, Chuck!  Soldier on, dude.  8)

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Post by: Sason on June 28, 2010, 04:01:14 pm
Good luck Chuck!

But don't be too disappointed if it doesn't work the same way the second time.

Long term weight loss has to take its time, you can't rush it.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on July 02, 2010, 08:00:21 am
Congrats big time, Paul!  I noticed how slim and fabulous you were looking in the pics from the Brokie train trip.  Way to go!  8)


Paul, these days I imagine you're the spittin' image of another Paul...Paul Newman in Hud!!
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Post by: southendmd on July 02, 2010, 11:35:02 am
Paul, these days I imagine you're the spittin' image of another Paul...Paul Newman in Hud!!


Haha, Lee.  Not even close!  I'm sure I look more like CHUD LOL.

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Post by: CellarDweller on July 04, 2010, 08:53:04 am
Woooooo whooooo!


Over the past few weeks with travel, BBQs, Bday parties, my weight has yo-yoed around.....but never going higher than 213.

I decided to get back to Phase 1 of the Fat Smash diet, where I lost 10 pounds in 9 nine days to kick start me back in the right direction.

Today is the start of day 6 in Phase 1, and I've lost 5 pounds.


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I've just gone past the halfway point of my goal, today I'm at 208 pounds, 23 more to go.

;D
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Post by: Sason on July 04, 2010, 02:48:32 pm
Congrats Chuck!!

Way to go!!   :D
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Post by: CellarDweller on July 05, 2010, 07:34:25 am
Another pound gone.

;)

26 down, 22 to go!


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Post by: CellarDweller on July 22, 2010, 08:57:33 pm

Another pound gone.

;)

27 down, 21 to go!


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Where is everyone else?  Where are you at?
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Post by: Front-Ranger on July 22, 2010, 10:18:33 pm
I am here friend. I'm still 3 pounds from my goal weight, but feeling good and staying in shape. I now plug my ipod into the elliptical when I start my workout and all data goes automatically to nikeplus.com where I can analyze it. I love it!
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Post by: Kelda on July 23, 2010, 04:04:47 am
God, I'm going the other way! I'm defintiely not going to reach my goal ANY time soon..

I blame it on work and moving stress - that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Hopefully once I'm moved that will improve though as I'll be abel to walk to and from the train station so a nice 40min walk without realising it every day will be good for me.
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Post by: CellarDweller on August 29, 2010, 09:16:10 pm
Went shopping for new clothes this weekend that I can wear on my trip overseas.

It was nice to get them in a lower size!  ;D

36 inch wasit!  ;D  I'm hoping that when I'm down to goal, I'll be in 34s!
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Post by: CellarDweller on August 29, 2010, 09:19:21 pm
As an inspiration today, I'm watching a TV show on the Style Network called "Too Fat For 15 - Fighting Back".

It's about a "fat camp" for teenagers....some of these kids are bigger than I was when I was at my heaviest.

I can't believe that kids this young can get to this size.

Here's a link where you can go through pics of the kids on the show....just click the arrow to advance to the next pic.


http://www.mystyle.com/mystyle/photos/gallery.jsp?galleryUUID=308
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Post by: CellarDweller on September 20, 2010, 10:15:30 am
Just got back from England and Italy, and decided to eat and drink whatever the hell I wanted.

And I did just that.

;D

Imagine my surprise to see that the Wii scale said this morning that I only gained 2 pounds!

:o
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Post by: Front-Ranger on September 20, 2010, 10:30:18 am
Those Europeans really know how to live, don't they Chuck? When I got back from my UK trip, I tried to maintain the lifestyle...a hearty breakfast, little or no lunch, the 4 pm tea (or gelato!) break, a tasty healthy dinner at 8. But I could only do it ONE DAY, and then I just didn't have time to make a good breakfast any more. Sigh!! Hope you are more successful!
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Post by: CellarDweller on October 05, 2010, 06:54:52 am
Hiya FRiend Lee!

Well, after the weekend with birthdays and such, the diet pretty much went out the window.  LOL

I went back into it yesterday and I'm determined to keep it going!  LOL

I'd like to be under 200 pounds by the time of the LA gathering, and with the weight going up and down (between 215 & 207) I'm going to have to refocus and do this.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on October 05, 2010, 10:31:12 am
I hear you friend! Eating out is a major boondoggle for me. I try to limit it to once a week. It's amazing how many calories are hidden in the typical restaurant meal. I have to be very careful what I order. Lately, I've been ordering vegetarian food when I eat out. I like to eat at ethnic restuarants because the steakhouses and American food is much more fattening. And only one course. Even with that, I end up taking home half of my meal in a box. Fortunately, I have a teenaged son at home. If he doesn't eat the leftovers, I usually throw it out.

If there's birthday cake, I usually indulge, but only eat a bite or two of cake and one of icing. Then, I discreetly slip the rest into a trash can when no one's looking. Unless it's sticky toffee cake, which I gobble right up! But nobody in the US even knows what that is.
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Post by: Kelda on October 07, 2010, 01:50:19 pm
You and paul looked fabarooni at the NYC meet!
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Post by: RouxB on November 01, 2010, 01:55:42 am
So, I kinda went in the wrong direction and am now twice as chubbilicious as I have ever been in my whole life.

It has got to be be gone by Alberta or I won't be allowed on a horse  8)
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Post by: Kelda on November 01, 2010, 09:31:08 am
Ruby.. I know that feeling - I'm exactly the same! Put it on rather than off!
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Post by: Meryl on November 01, 2010, 12:02:24 pm
Today I'm starting back on track.  I'm seven pounds away from my most chubbilicious.  I'm also suffering from knee and back pain.  Time to regroup!  8)
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Post by: serious crayons on November 01, 2010, 12:32:50 pm
I'm somewhere around my most chubbilicious, as well. Regroup is right!
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Post by: Sason on November 01, 2010, 12:53:25 pm
I also went in the wrong direction,
but managed to regroup and am now back to where I started almost a year ago....   ::)

So, regrouping continues!
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on November 01, 2010, 12:58:14 pm


I have not stepped onto the scale in three weeks. (I have been studying hard and had a midterm exam.) Three weeks ago, I thought I was 2 lbs overweight, and thought--that's ok, regular variation.

So I get on the scale this morning (used to be a daily thing for years ).

5 lbs over. Since the middle of September.   >:(

And with Thanksgiving just around the corner--  :(

And Christmas--  :o

What's a stronger  word than 'regroup'-- ???

Grrr!
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Post by: southendmd on November 01, 2010, 01:02:14 pm
I'll join the parade!  Too much travelling has led me astray.  I'm still down 20+ pounds from this time last year, but need to REGROUP!
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Post by: Sason on November 01, 2010, 01:08:45 pm
So regrouping it is, all over the place!  :D
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 01, 2010, 02:50:11 pm
What's a stronger  word than 'regroup'-- ???

Liposuction.
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Post by: Sason on November 01, 2010, 02:55:15 pm
Liposuction.


 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Monika on November 01, 2010, 02:57:21 pm
I'll join the parade!  Too much travelling has led me astray.  I'm still down 20+ pounds from this time last year, but need to REGROUP!
Me too! Me too! Me too!


btw. I have a crush on your avatar. Can I marry it?
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Post by: southendmd on November 01, 2010, 02:58:29 pm
btw. I have a crush on your avatar. Can I marry it?

Absolutely!  That was my very first avatar, and I thought I'd return to my first love.
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Post by: Meryl on November 01, 2010, 04:00:01 pm
Well, I seem to have hit upon the word of the day.  ;D

To begin regrouping, I took a yoga stretch class today and am counting my points a la Weight Watchers.  I'm sore, but it feels great to have started.  8)
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on November 01, 2010, 04:49:18 pm



Well, I seem to have hit upon the word of the day.  ;D

To begin regrouping, I took a yoga stretch class today and am counting my points a la Weight Watchers.  I'm sore, but it feels great to have started.  8)


Meryl!! Cool!!

I have been thinking about the same lines--hmmmmmm! Now I must--reassess--

And, no, Jeff, I wasn't thinking about lipo!

 :laugh:

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Post by: CellarDweller on November 01, 2010, 06:14:13 pm
Regroup is the word of the day, as I need to do it too.

::)

I'm still down a lot, and not near my most "chubilicious" but the new jeans I got for my trip to Italy in September fit nicely before, but yesterday they got "snug", so it's time to refocus!
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Post by: Sason on November 01, 2010, 06:26:40 pm
Jeans are known for shrinking in the laundry..... ::)


But Chuck, are you gonna refocus, while all the rest of us are regrouping?

Won't you feel lonely? Outside?

Why not jump on the brokie regrouping train with all of us?  ;D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on November 01, 2010, 08:22:25 pm
Refocus, regroup, whatever it is, I gotta do it too! Yikes, I checked out the scale after my last workout, and I'm a whole seven pounds away from my goal!! That seems like a chasm!! Luckily, winter is coming up and with it a whole slew of fun winter sports I enjoy...skiing, snowshoeing, and the supreme sport of them all...ice climbing!!

But first....Meryl, you have the right idea. Some yoga and working out in the gym. Thank you for getting us mobilized!!
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Post by: CellarDweller on November 01, 2010, 08:28:56 pm
Jeans are known for shrinking in the laundry..... ::)


But Chuck, are you gonna refocus, while all the rest of us are regrouping?

Won't you feel lonely? Outside?

Why not jump on the brokie regrouping train with all of us?  ;D

Regroup, refocus, it's all the same.  lol
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 01, 2010, 09:14:12 pm
Jeans are known for shrinking in the laundry..... ::)

They sure do. ...  ::)
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Post by: CellarDweller on November 01, 2010, 09:55:38 pm
I'm not blaming the tight jeans on "shrinkage".   :laugh:

I've been eating more and exercising less, so that needs to stop!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on November 02, 2010, 04:46:42 pm
What about ' The Chubbilicious Brokie Regroupers' as a name for our renewed weight loss club?  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: serious crayons on November 02, 2010, 05:05:56 pm
What about ' The Chubbilicious Brokie Regroupers' as a name for our renewed weight loss club?  :laugh: :laugh:

Good idea!  :D

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Post by: Kelda on November 02, 2010, 06:57:27 pm
 ;D
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on November 02, 2010, 07:31:09 pm

What about 'The Chubbilicious Brokie Regroupers' as a name for our renewed weight loss club?  :laugh: :laugh:



Or how about
'The Chubbilicious Brokie Groupers'
for short??
(http://wacohi1960.com/pht/3/grouper_fish_278x214_b.jpg)
grouper fish
;D

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Post by: Sason on November 03, 2010, 05:11:05 pm


Or how about
'The Chubbilicious Brokie Groupers'
for short??
(http://wacohi1960.com/pht/3/grouper_fish_278x214_b.jpg)
grouper fish
;D



I don't know......

Are you sure we won't all develop fins and protruding eyes like that?


 ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 03, 2010, 06:12:36 pm
If you all want impetus to lose weight, I think you should ditch Chubbilicious. That sounds far too positive and way too cute. You say you want to lose weight, so why make being chubby sound like a good thing, like delicious?  ???
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Post by: RouxB on November 03, 2010, 08:12:48 pm
If you all want impetus to lose weight, I think you should ditch Chubbilicious. That sounds far too positive and way too cute. You say you want to lose weight, so why make being chubby sound like a good thing, like delicious?  ???

I am chubby+I am delicious=I am chubbilicious!
I am chubby-some chub=I will be delicious

My worth as a human being is not tied to the size of my body and I don't need to feel bad about myself or feel shame in order to be successful at weight loss. It is a daunting task so a little humor and positivity can't hurt to my mind.

I am happy to be a bug eyed scaly chubbilious Brokie Grouper  ;D

Swim on team, swim on!

 O0
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Post by: CellarDweller on November 03, 2010, 08:27:53 pm
Swim on team, swim on!


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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 03, 2010, 09:14:59 pm
I am chubby+I am delicious=I am chubbilicious!
I am chubby-some chub=I will be delicious

My worth as a human being is not tied to the size of my body and I don't need to feel bad about myself or feel shame in order to be successful at weight loss. It is a daunting task so a little humor and positivity can't hurt to my mind.

Geezus H. Nobody said anything about your "worth as a human being."  ::)

Making chubby sound cheerful and positive is poor incentive if you really want to lose weight. It's a bad strategy.
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Post by: RouxB on November 03, 2010, 09:35:17 pm
Incentive is subjective so how about you use your strategy and I use mine?

Taking my chubbiliciousness off to buy cat food and then coming home to make a big chubbilicious baked chicken salad. Yum Yum!


Meryl, how is your back handling the yoga? I did something to mine which has had me sidelined for months. I was living on Advil  when I was in Boston just to be able to walk around

I forgot to mention-I finally broke down and bought a smart phone-a droid Incredible. I am following the Weight Watcher program and there are lots of diet aid applications. I am using a great point tracker/food diary which is the best way for me to stay on track.





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Post by: Front-Ranger on November 03, 2010, 09:58:36 pm

I am happy to be a bug eyed scaly chubbilious Brokie Grouper  ;D


Me too! And BTW, grouper is one of my favorite fish...it tastes delicious...chubbilicious!!
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Post by: Meryl on November 03, 2010, 09:59:38 pm
Meryl, how is your back handling the yoga? I did something to mine which has had me sidelined for months. I was living on Advil  when I was in Boston just to be able to walk around.

I forgot to mention-I finally broke down and bought a smart phone-a droid Incredible. I am following the Weight Watcher program and there are lots of diet aid applications. I am using a great point tracker/food diary which is the best way for me to stay on track.

Roux, it's too early to tell about my back, as I've only had one class; however, I think I did notice some improvement the next day.  The main thing I need to do is strengthen and tone the muscles that keep the weight in my tummy from pulling me forward.  Once some weight comes off, that will be less of a problem and my back will be able to line up again.  My knees will be happier, too.

I started back to Weight Watchers on Tuesday and have been counting my points.  Already there've been lapses, but after each bump in the road I'll just keep on driving.  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on November 03, 2010, 10:24:08 pm
Making chubby sound cheerful and positive is poor incentive if you really want to lose weight. It's a bad strategy.

I don't think there's much danger in our culture of anyone going overboard with thinking "chubby" is cheerful and positive, whatever name we apply to it. We are bombarded with reminders that fat does not equal cute. But, paradoxically, I think it's easier to lose weight when you feel better about yourself.

Some of my most horrendous eating has occurred when I was mortified about my weight, and therefore feeling depressed and worthless and hopeless. I would overeat either 1) to feel better, because food will lift your mood for at least as long as it's in your mouth and 2) to punish myself for being overweight.

But when I feel good about myself, I don't crave the extra mood booster of food. And the feeling of strength that comes from higher self-esteem gives me the energy and positive attitude to help me make better food and exercise choices.

So sure, I'm chubbilicious! And if I drop a few pounds, I'll be 'licious.


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Post by: RouxB on November 03, 2010, 11:20:45 pm
I don't think there's much danger in our culture of anyone going overboard with thinking "chubby" is cheerful and positive, whatever name we apply to it. We are bombarded with reminders that fat does not equal cute. But, paradoxically, I think it's easier to lose weight when you feel better about yourself.

Some of my most horrendous eating has occurred when I was mortified about my weight, and therefore feeling depressed and worthless and hopeless. I would overeat either 1) to feel better, because food will lift your mood for at least as long as it's in your mouth and 2) to punish myself for being overweight.

But when I feel good about myself, I don't crave the extra mood booster of food. And the feeling of strength that comes from higher self-esteem gives me the energy and positive attitude to help me make better food and exercise choices.

So sure, I'm chubbilicious! And if I drop a few pounds, I'll be 'licious.


you are pretty 'licious as it is!
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Post by: serious crayons on November 03, 2010, 11:39:30 pm
you are pretty 'licious as it is!

 :-*

Changing my username.

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Post by: RouxB on November 03, 2010, 11:43:01 pm
:-*

Changing my username.



my laughter startled the cat

 :laugh:
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Post by: Kelda on November 04, 2010, 05:42:36 am

I am happy to be a bug eyed scaly chubbilious Brokie Grouper  ;D



Me four!
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on November 06, 2010, 08:15:36 am

http://www.popeater.com/2010/11/05/portia-de-rossi-interview-book-ellen/



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What is your food intake like now?
I eat everything that I want. I never restrict
food. I will never go on a diet again. I have
a really good relationship with food now
because I honestly don't think about it.




Portia de Rossi:
With Ellen, 'I Could Finally Accept Who I Am'

By Nicki Gostin  
Posted Nov 5th 2010 08:00PM


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Portia de Rossi has penned 'Unbearable Lightness: A Story of Loss and Gain,' an unflinching and bravely honest account of her battle with eating disorders and dealing with her sexuality. It is an extraordinary account, incredibly vivid and shocking and quite simply one of the most powerful books about anorexia ever written. De Rossi took time to discuss her struggles, along with the healing power of falling in love with now-wife Ellen DeGeneres.

"I stopped looking in the mirror and obsessing how I looked," she tells PopEater. "I realized who I was and what I thought was a lot more important to her and therefore it became more important to me."



It must have been so painful writing this book.
It was but there was a beauty in it because part of the reason why I wanted to write it is because ever since being with Ellen I'm living a more and honest life and just having made the decision to come out and be openly gay, it really kind of made everything feel better to me. I felt like I could finally accept who I am and be comfortable in my own skin. And yet I would think about my past and cringe and just know there was this big, dark period of my life that I just didn't want to talk about so I thought I should go back and examine what it was that made me feel so shamed and have so little self-esteem.

It's so ironic. You played such a confident person on 'Ally McBeal' and you were closeted and anorexic.
It was an interesting character for me anyway because this woman was so self assured and I had to be really mindful of keeping my head straight and standing straight. It was so unlike who I was. When I stepped into that role I was just very fearful, I wasn't that excited. I was just very anxious. I didn't know what I had to do to earn it even though I had already won the role. I felt like I had to backtrack and do all the groundwork.

What was your lowest weight?
82 pounds. 300 calories was my staple, it was what I used to eat day to day. It would go up sometimes. I would have a bad day and eat 500 calories.

Did you beat yourself up when you did that?
Of course, yes. This spanned over maybe two years, of being that restrictive with food. I had stages where I would eat more but 300 calories was always my goal. It was really what I kept to.

There isn't the usual array of photos in this memoir, just some very disturbing ones at the end.
The classic memoir has a well of pictures in the middle and I never wanted to do that because I wanted the pictures to help me tell a story in a way where I didn't want people to flick to the middle and look at the pictures and say, 'Oh here she was fat, here she was skinny.' I wanted people to understand what it took to look like that. Also I chose glamorous publicity photos instead of private photos because I wanted people to see the image they'd already seen before. I wanted to show them how sick I got.

You really had a double whammy of hiding your eating disorder and hiding your sexuality.
It really was because I was so paranoid that I was going to find out that I'd be exposed as gay and lose everything. I think that desire to be in control of my life was heightened. Being on a T.V. show you don't have control over your character, I realized the only thing I had control over was what I looked like and I just thought that as being thin as possible I was getting rid of one problem. I just thought, let me solve this one problem and I'll deal with the striptease I have to do on 'Ally McBeal' or the fact that I'm throwing myself at my boss begging him to sleep with me when I thought I was going to play a whole different character.

Do you think your anorexia was linked in anyway to you being closeted?
I really do think I would have had a major eating disorder if I wasn't struggling with my sexuality because my eating disorder started when I was 12 years old and started modeling. It continued throughout my life and it escalated when I got 'Ally McBeal.'

Modeling taught me that what I looked like was more important than what I thought or did and I kind of think that's what set up to the kind of place where all of my energy was focused on what I looked like. All of my self-esteem was always in question. I think that anyone who bases their self-esteem on how they look is going to be insecure. I was insecure all of my life; modeling triggered that and the eating disorder because I had to go on a diet in order to model.

Of course being closeted is not a great way to live and I was in constant terror and fear that people were going to find out I was gay and my entire career would be over. It certainly contributed to me having such a chronic problem at that point.

What was the breaking point for you?
It was the moment when the doctor told me my organs were about to shut down if I didn't change. I was either choosing sickness and death or I could start trying to rebuild my health. That was the moment where I went, 'Oh I don't want to die in order to be thin.'

What's your weight now?
130, I'm assuming because I haven't weighed myself in years because it's the weight I've always gone back to. We all have that weight that we return to and if you can accept it you can live your life free of dieting.

What is your food intake like now?
I eat everything that I want. I never restrict food. I will never go on a diet again. I have a really good relationship with food now because I honestly don't think about it.

You write of being healed by Ellen.
Yeah love is everything. It's what everybody deserves. It's just the most beautiful thing I think the world has to offer. I think with Ellen by the time we got together I was really 100% recovered but love and acceptance of me just the way I am was kind of lovely and surprising and made me rethink how I saw myself. It forced me to truly love myself as I am without makeup or a pretty dress. I stopped looking in the mirror and obsessing how I looked. I realized who I was and what I thought was a lot more important to her and therefore it became more important to me.

When you are so obsessed with how you look it's not a vanity thing. It's the opposite. It's not like I had such a big ego, I felt so insecure about my looks that I had to constantly alter them and try to live up to this idealized female image because I thought I was so far short of it. Now I just have no interest in playing that game anymore.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Ellemeno on November 06, 2010, 10:21:32 am
John, thank you for posting that article in this thread.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on November 08, 2010, 06:44:26 am
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

This is what happens when you allow yourself to get lazy and stray!



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218 pounds.  The last time I used this counter, I was down to 206!  I let myself gain 12 pounds since July!

Time to get back to work!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Shakesthecoffecan on November 08, 2010, 09:03:15 am
Hang in there, its a journey more than a destination. I wanna go back to bed.
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Post by: Lynne on November 08, 2010, 10:38:32 am
Lynne de Licious sounds a bit like a porn name, but I'm on board :).

I will have to refer to where I started - I just went up from there, then I ignored it for awhile.

As of this weekend, tho, I'm at 198 and I think on a downwards trend. For some inexplicable reason, I've stopped (almost) eating everything in sight, or even on my plate.

I have been gravitating toward more whole foods, and doing OK with that, although once in awhile I need a diet coke caffeine perk in the afternoon. So, where am I?  40-50 lbs to go. I need to make exercise a priority, but sleep and work trump it every time.

 :-\

I've been drinking whole milk, using real cream in my coffee, etc... because I'm being paranoid about not getting enough Ca.  It seems to dampen the appetite even though it's more calories.

Meryl - I'm glad you're having luck with the WW points.  I love their on-line points counter and other tools.  I've used it a couple of times over the years, but basically all it does is tell me where I go wrong.  I don't have any problems until dinnertime, then it's a free-for-all. 

 ::)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: Lynne on November 08, 2010, 11:21:41 am
OK - I found where I started, but I didn't put down any actual figures.  However, in May or so of this year, I weighed 99 kg, or 218 lbs, absolutely my heaviest ever, at the doctors, so I've lost about 20 lbs since May.  Since I still think I need to lose 50, I imagine I was around 200 when I made my first post here.  I'd be happy with 150, but 130 would make the actuaries happy.

Great idea for a thread, Paul - I'm just seeing it...

I haven't weighed in a few weeks, but count me in for 50 lbs, just to stick to round numbers.

Here's what I've been doing - going to yoga 1-2X/week and working on de-stressing and meditation.

The Plan for 2010 is to

1) continue the yoga and de-stressing
2) find some time somewhere for cardio at the gym I'm paying for but not using
3) get enough sleep - like Clarissa says
4) have afternoon tea and an energy bar so I'm not starving for supper so I grab what's at hand
5) cut back on alcohol consumption to no more than 2 per evening 2 times a week

Very little of the above has come to pass...There's progress on 5, but that's about it.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on November 08, 2010, 01:32:48 pm
I weighed in this morning, and I've lost 4 pounds since last Monday!  8)

Lynne, your guidelines sound perfect.  I took yoga twice last week and stuck to my WW points.  My knees and back feel marginally better, but I'm sore from the exercise, too.  Unfortunately, I'm missing yoga today because I'm home with a sore throat and nascent cold.  It's good to be back in the groove, though.

I've been drinking whole milk, using real cream in my coffee, etc... because I'm being paranoid about not getting enough Ca.  It seems to dampen the appetite even though it's more calories.

Try going down to 2% now.  There's a lot of fat in whole milk along with that calcium.

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Meryl - I'm glad you're having luck with the WW points.  I love their on-line points counter and other tools.  I've used it a couple of times over the years, but basically all it does is tell me where I go wrong.  I don't have any problems until dinnertime, then it's a free-for-all. 

Yep, dinner's a problem, but if you're writing down your points, there's more of an incentive to stick to them.  I didn't care for the online point-keeping for some reason.  The booklet works better for me.  I keep it handy by my bedside along with the points-counting pamphlet.

We're in about the same place weight-wise.  I'd like to get down to 150, too. 

Chuck, I've been worried about you not keeping up the program.  Glad to hear you're back on it, too.  Good luck to us all!  8)
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Post by: CellarDweller on November 08, 2010, 04:32:56 pm
I weighed in this morning, and I've lost 4 pounds since last Monday!  8)

Yaaaaaaaaay!  Congrats Meryl!

Chuck, I've been worried about you not keeping up the program.  Glad to hear you're back on it, too.  Good luck to us all!  8)

Yeah, I fell off the wagon, but I've picked it back up before too much damage has occured.  I actually weighed myself on Saturday and I was 219.5, so by today I've lost 1.5 pounds.  I've watched what I've eaten very closely, and I'm exercising more.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on November 08, 2010, 06:49:19 pm
Well done Meryl, Chuck, Lynne.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: RouxB on November 09, 2010, 01:30:39 am
You 'liciouses are great inspiration. I think I need to check in here a couple of times a day.

I refuse to weigh myself yet because it will just depress me. The past week went well and I am adding new good habits-focusing on changing a non-productive habit-each week. It seems to be working.

Tomorrow morning I am going to take a load of aleve and try to work out. Hopefully my back doesn't tell me "oh HELL no!!"
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Post by: Meryl on November 09, 2010, 01:49:22 am
((((Roux))))

Somebody said something at WW that struck me as helpful.  Talking about eating less, she said she'd "made peace with it."  I think of that when I feel bummed that I have to do it.

I'm glad you're treading the path with us.  :-*
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Post by: Monika on November 09, 2010, 01:57:02 am
I weighed in this morning, and I've lost 4 pounds since last Monday!  8)

congrats, Meryl!
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Post by: CellarDweller on November 10, 2010, 06:51:32 am
Back on the right track.  1 pound gone, down to 216.


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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on November 10, 2010, 09:56:38 am
I've decided to start thinking in terms of days. How many days I have to stay on track to lose the amount of weight I'd like to lose. It's probably about 100. Then, I figure, I can take a sort of 12-step-program "just for today" approach.

So I have two days down, 98 or so to go.

The only catch is, they have to be mostly consecutive.  ;D

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Post by: RouxB on November 10, 2010, 10:57:16 pm
I've decided to start thinking in terms of days. How many days I have to stay on track to lose the amount of weight I'd like to lose. It's probably about 100. Then, I figure, I can take a sort of 12-step-program "just for today" approach.

So I have two days down, 98 or so to go.

The only catch is, they have to be mostly consecutive.  ;D



hmmm, I like the days countdown. 240  days for me...
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Ellemeno on November 11, 2010, 02:29:46 am
Yeah, but on the 101st day, I have blown it big time.
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Post by: serious crayons on November 11, 2010, 09:23:00 am
Yeah, but on the 101st day, I have blown it big time.

Me too. The first time I ever joined Weight Watchers, I got within one pound of my goal weight and went out to celebrate with a big steak dinner. I never returned to WW and regained every pound.

Maybe the 6th or so time I joined WW, I made lifetime member. Which means you reach your goal weight and keep it off for six weeks. Then if you stay within five pounds of that goal weight you can attend meetings for free forever. They had me get up and speak to the group, and I told them that I feared immediately gaining it all back. Which I did.

Last fall, maybe my 8th time with WW, I never came within spitting distance of my goal weight. But I did lose about 10 pounds that I now have back.

What's ridiculous is we're only talking about 20 or so pounds up and down here. Over 30 years, I've lost it about five times -- some with WW and some without (and WW doesn't always work for me) -- and always regained it. If only I could lose it and keep it off! If only I could just settle in and be satisfied with my 20-pound heavier self! But neither one ever happens.



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Post by: CellarDweller on November 11, 2010, 10:04:43 am
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Moving in the right direction, another pound gone.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on November 11, 2010, 11:40:01 am
What's ridiculous is we're only talking about 20 or so pounds up and down here. Over 30 years, I've lost it about five times -- some with WW and some without (and WW doesn't always work for me) -- and always regained it. If only I could lose it and keep it off! If only I could just settle in and be satisfied with my 20-pound heavier self! But neither one ever happens.

This sounds basically like a success story to me.  As long as you don't have more to lose than those 20 pounds, you're not in really unhealthy territory.  May you always be within that range!  :)

Chuck, keep on truckin'!  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on November 11, 2010, 12:12:07 pm
This sounds basically like a success story to me.  As long as you don't have more to lose than those 20 pounds, you're not in really unhealthy territory.  May you always be within that range!  :)

Thank you, and I know. I'm not unhealthily heavy (although my BMI index is just over the line into the overweight zone), so that's why part of me wishes I could just be satisfied as I am and forget about it. When I go to WW, nobody asks, "What are YOU doing here?!" but I also can look around the room and realize that I'm relatively lucky, genetically.

But I've got a closet full of clothes that I can't wear. My weight tends to gather on my stomach and under my chin, and I don't like the way that looks. And, let's face it, I'm influenced by a culture that celebrates slenderness, not slight pudginess, and I can't help aspiring to fit the mold. In our culture, thinness=success (even Oprah has said she considers herself a failure when she gains weight). Even though intellectually I reject  the concept of thinness as essential thing to strive for, at some gut level, so to speak, I accept it.

I should stress that I don't aim to be supermodel thin. My ideal weight, for example, is about 35 pounds heavier than Kate Moss.

I also know from many many things I've read that over the long run, diets almost never work, for me or for anyone. That's why I've been in WW eight times, why when I talk to other WW members they have similar stories. Yet we probably all know exceptions to this rule -- people who've lost weight and kept it off for years and years. Hence the trap. It's hard to ever completely let go of the hope.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on November 11, 2010, 01:11:59 pm
I should stress that I don't aim to be supermodel thin. My ideal weight, for example, is about 35 pounds heavier than Kate Moss.

You only want to be 70 pounds?  :o

:laugh:

Ok, on a serious note, I often wonder where "they" get the "ideal" weight for people.

According to what I've seen on the internet, for my height, my ideal weight should be 160 MAX, meaning a range between 140 - 160.  I think I'd look rather sickly at 140 pounds, even at 160.  I'm aiming for between 180-185 pounds, which would mean I'd still be about 20 -25 pounds overweight.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on November 11, 2010, 01:23:47 pm
You only want to be 70 pounds?  :o

:laugh:

 :laugh:

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Ok, on a serious note, I often wonder where "they" get the "ideal" weight for people.

According to what I've seen on the internet, for my height, my ideal weight should be 160 MAX, meaning a range between 140 - 160.  I think I'd look rather sickly at 140 pounds, even at 160.  I'm aiming for between 180-185 pounds, which would mean I'd still be about 20 -25 pounds overweight.

Good question, Chuck. I wouldn't think it would be purely an aesthetic judgment. I guess I always assumed it was based on some kind of actuarial information -- you know, what insurance experts or whoever says is the weight most associated with healthiness.

But then, I've seen studies showing that people who are slightly "overweight" are likely to live longer. So why isn't what they now call "slightly overweight" actually the healthy ideal?


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on November 11, 2010, 01:29:35 pm
You guys inspired me to Google "Ideal weight."

At this link, my "People's Choice" ideal weight is 155; that's the average weight that other people of my Age, Height, Weight and Gender would describe as their ideal weight (and coincidentally is the weight I remember being comfortable at).  Based on BMI, my top weight should be 146.  They also have calculations for insurance companies' idea of healthy weight.

http://www.halls.md/ideal-weight/body.htm

Based simply on height, the Weight Watchers link puts my healthy weight at a top of 146.

http://www.weightwatchers.com/health/asm/calc_healthyweight.aspx
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Post by: CellarDweller on November 11, 2010, 06:31:46 pm
Thanks for that link, Meryl.

The "People's Choice" option gave me a ideal weight of 180 pounds, which I think is most believeable.

The "Medical Recommendation" said anywhere between 120 - 160.  :o  That's quite a spread there, 40 pounds.

The "Met Life" table says I should be between 145- 157.

The other formulas all had me at about 145.
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Post by: serious crayons on November 11, 2010, 08:20:26 pm
Here's mine:

People's choice: 142 lbs. Coincidentally, this is my goal weight, though I round down to 140. It's a good weight for me.

Medical recommendation: 118 - 155 lbs. Yikes, I'd feel skeletal at 118. I haven't weighed that much, ever -- at least not since I was shorter. Though Kate Moss, who is my height, is 105.

Weight Watchers: 124 to 155 lbs. Right now I'm at 160.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on November 11, 2010, 09:13:43 pm
One thing I've noticed is that most everyone who participates in this thread seems pretty open about their weight.  Usually that's something that people try to conceal.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Wayne on November 11, 2010, 09:45:47 pm
Sudafed, grapefruit, quadriceps press. Watch out in general. :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on November 11, 2010, 10:07:55 pm
 ???

what happened Wayne?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on November 12, 2010, 09:48:39 am

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)


Another pound gone, down to 214!  ;D

Now, the challenge, to make sure I work out and don't overeat this weekend away!

 ::)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 24, 2010, 09:30:04 am
I think I just made a discovery that turkey is a good diet food. Yesterday, I had a meal at 11 a.m. consisting of 3 oz of turkey breast, some cottage cheese and a handful of garbanzo beans. Strangely, I found it very satisfying. I didn't eat anything else until 7 pm, when I had a bit more turkey (dark meat this time). At this route, I'll be ready to have quite a feast come tomorrow!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on November 24, 2010, 12:24:08 pm
Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving!  8)

I've lost around 5 pounds and feel better.  Yoga has helped reduce the pain in my back and knees, too.   Tomorrow I'm not counting points, but I won't stuff myself.  Friday it's back to the program.  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on November 24, 2010, 12:40:19 pm
Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving!  8)

I've lost around 5 pounds and feel better.  Yoga has helped reduce the pain in my back and knees, too.   Tomorrow I'm not counting points, but I won't stuff myself.  Friday it's back to the program.  :)

Yee-ha! Congratulations, Meryl. Are you attending meetings or just counting points on your own (apologies if you explained earlier and I missed it or don't remember)?

I'm thinking of signing up for the online-only program.



Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on November 24, 2010, 12:56:32 pm
Yee-ha! Congratulations, Meryl. Are you attending meetings or just counting points on your own (apologies if you explained earlier and I missed it or don't remember)?

I'm thinking of signing up for the online-only program.

Thanks, K!  I've gone back to attending meetings.  The human touch is important, and weighing in every week helps me stay serious.  The weight's coming off more slowly now that I'm past 60, but that's all the more reason to get rid of it.  I've been feeling much older than that!  :P

I hope you do the online program.  Good vibes to you!  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on November 24, 2010, 01:15:32 pm
Congrats Meryl!

Nicely done!



(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

After my recent travels and limited excercise time, I thought I woudl've gained weight.  I didn't.  No loss, but stayed the same, and I can accept that.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on November 24, 2010, 02:37:59 pm
Congrats Meryl!

Nicely done!

Thanks, Chuck!   :-*

Quote
After my recent travels and limited exercise time, I thought I woudl've gained weight.  I didn't.  No loss, but stayed the same, and I can accept that.

You dodged the bullet!  Keep up the good work.  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on November 24, 2010, 03:02:13 pm
Scene from "Cheers":

*Norm enters bar*

Coach:  "What're you up to, Norm?"

Norm:  "My ideal weight, if I was eleven feet tall."



~~~~

Congrats, guys.

This time last year, I was at the height of my weight LOL.

I am down 25 pounds since then!  

It all started last holiday season, when I inadvertently lost 5 pounds.  I believe it was from "over-compensating", meaning I tended to undereat at big feasts, stay away from the buffet table, drink less.  It helps that I don't have much of a sweet tooth.  

Talking about that initial 5 pound loss with Sonja led to our starting this thread.  

Many of us have lost, and while it's easy to gain some back, we're still trying!

Keep it up!

My new goal is to lose another 10 before next summer's Alberta trip.  Moose Mountain, here I come!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on November 24, 2010, 03:25:31 pm
This time last year, I was at the height of my weight LOL.

I am down 25 pounds since then!  

Good for you, Paul!  You've lost a whole Thanksgiving turkey!  ;D  8)  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on November 24, 2010, 03:29:22 pm
Good for you, Paul!  You've lost a whole Thanksgiving turkey!  ;D  8)  ;D

Gee, I never thought of it like that.  What a load off!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on November 24, 2010, 03:52:35 pm
Scene from "Cheers":

*Norm enters bar*

Coach:  "What're you up to, Norm?"

Norm:  "My ideal weight, if I was eleven feet tall."



~~~~

Congrats, guys.

This time last year, I was at the height of my weight LOL.

I am down 25 pounds since then!  

It all started last holiday season, when I inadvertently lost 5 pounds.  I believe it was from "over-compensating", meaning I tended to undereat at big feasts, stay away from the buffet table, drink less.  It helps that I don't have much of a sweet tooth.  

Talking about that initial 5 pound loss with Sonja led to our starting this thread.  

Many of us have lost, and while it's easy to gain some back, we're still trying!

Keep it up!

My new goal is to lose another 10 before next summer's Alberta trip.  Moose Mountain, here I come!

That's truly awesome, Paulie!  I'm very proud of you!
 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

[email protected] the Thanksgiving turkey!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on November 24, 2010, 04:12:03 pm
Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving!  8)

I've lost around 5 pounds and feel better.  Yoga has helped reduce the pain in my back and knees, too.   Tomorrow I'm not counting points, but I won't stuff myself.  Friday it's back to the program.  :)

Congrats Meryl!!

Well done!  :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on November 24, 2010, 04:18:20 pm
Scene from "Cheers":

*Norm enters bar*

Coach:  "What're you up to, Norm?"

Norm:  "My ideal weight, if I was eleven feet tall."



~~~~

Congrats, guys.

This time last year, I was at the height of my weight LOL.

I am down 25 pounds since then!  

It all started last holiday season, when I inadvertently lost 5 pounds.  I believe it was from "over-compensating", meaning I tended to undereat at big feasts, stay away from the buffet table, drink less.  It helps that I don't have much of a sweet tooth.  

Talking about that initial 5 pound loss with Sonja led to our starting this thread.  

Many of us have lost, and while it's easy to gain some back, we're still trying!

Keep it up!

My new goal is to lose another 10 before next summer's Alberta trip.  Moose Mountain, here I come!

Congrats Paul, way to gol!!!   :)


My weight has been roller coasting this year, and I'm more or less where I was one year ago...    >:(

I have come to the conclusion that I'm probably not able to seriously lose any weight on my own.
I've been very successful with WW before (-37 kg), so I think I'll try their online program. Will look into it one of these days.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on November 24, 2010, 05:14:41 pm
You're an inspiration, Paul!  :D

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on November 24, 2010, 07:17:40 pm
Congrats, Big Brother Paul!  :-*
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on November 26, 2010, 05:26:23 am
You are an inspiration Paul.. me - I'm still where I was when i first weighed into this thread... if not a little big bigger. I have to ay this year has been eventful what with job worries and moving house so I'm not going to beat myself up too much about it. 2011 will be my year!!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Wayne on November 29, 2010, 05:56:42 pm
Great work Dr. P!   :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Wayne on November 29, 2010, 06:06:18 pm
???

what happened Wayne?
Well, I did lose some weight, but I think the reason I said "watch out in general" was that my furnace* had just blown up**!  :o

* the one under the house, not my metabolic furnace. It actually worked out fine though, because I'm getting a 30% tax credit - $1000 - and it wasn't quite as expensive as I feared. FYI, the tax credit is available only for the rest of this calendar year, so if anybody's considering replacing a furnace, now's a great time.

** poured smoke in the house and stopped working; nothing serious but I guess I'm lucky it didn't burn the house down. When we checked the equipment it turned out it was made in 1979 - older'n some a y'all  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on December 19, 2010, 12:48:34 am

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Weight Loss and Calories
Boost sluggish metabolism and shed fat faster


By Selene Yeager

One day you wake up and, suddenly, cutting back on calories for a few days or doing some extra hours of aerobics just won't get rid of those stubborn pounds. You're not crazy. Weight loss gets harder as you get older, especially after you turn 40. But it's not impossible!

Prevention's metabolism-revving program can help put your body's fat-burning engines on autopilot, so your body's working around the clock to slim you. With the right kind of weight-loss workout, you could burn up to 200 extra calories a day, many of them while doing nothing more challenging than watching your favorite movie, eating dinner, or, yes, sleeping.

The result: You could have up to 20 pounds of weight loss in a year -- without eating less.

Our metabolism-revving plan can help you burn more calories every day, lose fat, boost your energy, feel stronger and more fit, and look and feel years younger.

Managing your metabolism

The Metabolism Meltdown: Metabolism is all the work your body does that requires calories (energy): staying alive, thinking, breathing, and moving your muscles. Obviously, it plays a major role in how much you weigh, especially with each passing birthday.

Sometime in your 30s, your metabolism starts slowing down by about 5 percent every decade. That means if you eat about 1,800 calories a day and fit into size 10s when you're 35, you'll be shopping for 12s when you're 45, even if you're eating the same number of calories. By the time you're 55, well, you get the idea.

The culprit behind this decline in calorie-burn is muscle loss, says Steve Farrell, Ph.D., associate director of The Cooper Institute in Dallas. Every pound of muscle you lose can decrease the number of calories you burn by as many as 30 a day. During perimenopause, you start losing about a half-pound of muscle a year, a loss that can double once you hit menopause (blame it on lack of activity and just plain aging). If you're not careful, by the time you're 65 it's possible to have lost half of your muscle mass and see your metabolism slowed by 200 to 300 calories.

Firm and burn: To keep your metabolism chugging in high gear, you need strength training. If you work your major muscle groups twice a week, you can expect to replace 5 to 10 years' worth of muscle loss in just a few months. Lifting weights can reverse the aging process, so you look and feel years, maybe even decades, younger.

Lifting weights increases your calorie-burn in other ways, too. In one study, 15 sedentary people in their 60s and 70s who strength trained three days a week for six months increased their daily calorie-burn by more than 230 calories. Almost one-third of the increase was from a boost in their metabolism due to the muscle they gained.

The remaining calories were burned as a result of their workouts, their increased daily activity, and something called "afterburn," which is an added attraction of strength-training exercise. Depending on how hard you work out, explains study author Gary R. Hunter, Ph.D., of the University of Alabama at Birmingham, your metabolism can stay elevated for up to 48 hours after you've finished lifting.

"As a bonus, strength training builds bone," says Dr. Farrell. "Though we tend to think of bones as 'dead,' they are very alive and highly active. Strong bones use more nutrients, and ultimately they burn more calories than weak bones do."

Stay away from the scale: When you first start lifting weights, the best way to measure progress is by how your clothes fit, not by pounds of weight loss, says Louis J. Aronne, M.D., associate professor of medicine at Weill Medical College of Cornell University in New York City. Muscle is heavier than fat. So, when you begin, the scale may not budge, or it may even go up a few pounds. Don't panic! Muscle takes up less space than fat, making you look smaller. The first changes you'll probably see will be in your waistline and clothing sizes. The scale will catch up.

Metabolism boosters
- Kick your cardio into high gear. Your metabolism may stay revved up to five times longer after a vigorous aerobic workout than after an easy one.

- Spicy food. A few small studies from Japan have shown that eating a fiery red pepper-spiced meal may boost metabolism up to 30 percent. One downside: They used a lot of red pepper — between 5 and 6 teaspoons per meal.

 - Sip green tea. In a study from Switzerland, six out of 10 men who took a green tea supplement (the equivalent of 1 cup of green tea) three times a day with their meals burned about 80 more calories during the following 24 hours than those who took a caffeine pill or a dummy pill. The researchers believe that flavonoids in the tea were responsible for the metabolism boost.

- Have a cup of java. The amount of caffeine (about 135 mg) in an 8-ounce cup of brewed coffee is enough to raise your metabolism for more than two hours. Drinking it before a workout may give you an extra kick. Caffeine may help free stored fat, so your body can burn it for energy as you exercise. (If you have high blood pressure, avoid caffeine before exercise.)

Metabolism busters
- Eat too few calories. When you deprive your body, it thinks you're stuck on Survivor Island. The result: your metabolism slows so you don't have to resort to eating rats to stay alive.

- Skip breakfast. According to one study, not eating breakfast may cause your resting metabolic rate to dip by 5 percent -- a small decline, but one that may creep up to a 10-pound weight gain in a year's time.

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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on December 28, 2010, 09:04:24 pm
Ok, are we ready to kick this thread into high gear for this coming year?

 ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on December 28, 2010, 09:34:35 pm
Ok, are we ready to kick this thread into high gear for this coming year?

 ;D

Yeah, man!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 28, 2010, 09:48:21 pm
Certainly!! I have that nasty 6 extra pounds hanging around and I'd like to kick it out the door in the next few months!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on December 28, 2010, 11:04:14 pm
Let's just say I have more to lose now than I did at this time last year.

But the great thing is, losing anything at all -- even the first 5 lbs -- will feel better! I am looking forward to pureed vegetable soups, among other things.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on December 29, 2010, 12:28:09 am
Ok, are we ready to kick this thread into high gear for this coming year?

 ;D

Yessirree Bob!  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on December 29, 2010, 07:00:00 am
Well, I really need to kick it this year.

It's been over a month since I weighed myself, and I finally decided to face the music and get on the scale.

I've been eating all horrible stuff and doing almost no exercise.


(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

So I'm back up to 225.  Bad news.  Good news is that I can do this, and I stopped myself before I got any further.  I'm going to watch what I'm doing the next few days, and then really get into it for the new year.

I want this year to be the year I hit that goal.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on December 29, 2010, 09:19:22 am
Bummer, Chuckie!

Holiday eating sucks for sure. 

I gained a bit while travelling, then lost it while being sick.  So, I broke even and am holding steady.

During the holidays, I tend to overcompensate and not eat as much.  I tell people I have a "no sweets" policy when there's lots of stuff around. 

I gotta back off on the carbs again.  As for exercise, since I know I will never join a gym, I got a city-apartment-sized elliptical, along with the free weights.  We'll see how that goes. 

My current goal is to lose another 10 before Alberta. 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Monika on December 29, 2010, 12:01:49 pm
Ok, I will have to get on this train too. I must lose weight before Alberta too since I wanna do more hiking this year.
That´s just how it is.  :-\

I hate dieting
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on December 29, 2010, 12:34:11 pm
I keep losing track of where I was when I started, so I guess I'll have to plough through this thread if I want to figure it out.  Since I originally said I needed to lose 50 lbs, my theory is that I've made no progress or gained 10.

In absolute numbers, I weigh about 198 lbs and should weigh 140...so 58 pounds to go.

I'm starting the new year off with that Couch Potato to 5K Program.  I am having delusions that I am going to run the 5K at the annual AIDS Action Committee Walk the first Sunday in June.  (Mark your calendars - you are all cordially invited!!!)

 8)

I've spread the six week program over a little less than six months and so far so good.  I figure if I make it, I will have accomplished something HUGE personally.  And if I don't, I can always go as far as I can go and walk the rest.  

In an interesting turn of events, and completely separate from my little plan, many women from my sorority with whom I've reconnected via Facebook, are training for the St. Jude's marathon in Memphis in December.  Our sorority (which I feel more a part of now than I ever did then) has had a bad year with cancer.  One sister (Joanne) died from kidney cancer earlier this year; another has just finished treatment for breast cancer and is undergoing reconstructive surgery (Carol).  I think the impetus and inspiration for the run is Carol, who ran cross-country at Sewanee and ran all through her chemo treatments.

I said 'Count me in.'  So we'll be Team Alpha Delta Theta or Team Sewanee, depending on who else we pick up along the way.

In any event, there's going to be lots of support around the running, and in this particular case for me it's more about reconnecting with some of them than actually "finishing".
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 29, 2010, 12:38:59 pm
Welcome sisters! I am so excited about your marathon training! Currently, my training is in preparation for ice climbing in February. I'd love to lose a pound or two so I don't have to haul it up a frozen mountain!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on December 29, 2010, 01:38:45 pm
Yep I'll join train again..  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on December 29, 2010, 03:55:06 pm
I have to investigate a good online weight loss thing, like weight watchers or sumptin'.

I've realised that I'm not able to do this on my own, I have gained instead of lost for a long time now.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 29, 2010, 07:49:50 pm
Welcome, friends! You are not alone, we are all together in this quest to lose ourselves, LOL! I have found my little ipod to be so helpful in my fitness work. Some of the new cardio workout machines have a plug for your ipod. Not only does it charge your ipod while you work out, but it records your workout details...calories, level of effort, length of workout, even heartbeat. Then, when you plug your ipod into your computer, it automatically sends the information to the Nike Plus website where you can keep track of your workouts, set goals for yourself, etc. It's awesome!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on December 31, 2010, 06:52:13 am

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

Well, I've been watching what I eat and exercising the past two days, and I've lost two pounds.

Ending the old year on a good trend.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on January 01, 2011, 12:48:06 pm
Happy New Year and Good Luck to all our "Losers"!

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Eat less!

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Move more!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on January 01, 2011, 12:59:28 pm
Thanks, Paul!  :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: SFEnnisSF on January 01, 2011, 01:12:43 pm
Ok, it's time for me to get on this bandwagon!  Serious diet and exercise program starts today!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread
Post by: SFEnnisSF on January 01, 2011, 01:14:22 pm
Goal: 20 lbs.  :)
New Goal: 30 lbs.  :o  ::)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 01, 2011, 02:13:13 pm
Welcome Eric! I know you can do it! Are you planning to run alongside the train sometimes?  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 01, 2011, 03:07:49 pm

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 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

Let's do this!

Scale today, 223 pounds!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on January 01, 2011, 03:11:52 pm
I've put back three pounds of the seven I'd lost this fall!  Back on the wagon.  :P

If ever a genie comes along and offers me a wish, I'll ask him to reverse reality:  instead of weight being hard to lose and easy to put on, it would be hard to put on and easy to lose.  If the weight loss industry tanks as a result, so be it!  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 01, 2011, 03:22:35 pm
I've put back three pounds of the seven I'd lost this fall!  Back on the wagon.  :P

If ever a genie comes along and offers me a wish, I'll ask him to reverse reality:  instead of weight being hard to lose and easy to put on, it would be hard to put on and easy to lose.  If the weight loss industry tanks as a result, so be it!  ;D

Unfortunately, a worse consequence would be that humanity would go extinct. Weight is hard to lose and easy to put on for a reason, and those of us carrying around a little too much are actually the "fittest" that Darwin was talking about.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on January 01, 2011, 03:50:16 pm
1.75 hour walk/trudge through the Arboretum and dancing tonight!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on January 01, 2011, 06:33:19 pm
Happy New Year and Good Luck to all our "Losers"!

(http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/closeenoughp1.gif)

Eat less!

(http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/2fingersp1.gif)

Move more!
Oh, is this all we have to do??

That's easy-peasy!!

Thanks Paul, for this very helpful instruction manual!!    :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on January 02, 2011, 01:17:52 am


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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: SFEnnisSF on January 02, 2011, 05:21:00 pm
Welcome Eric! I know you can do it! Are you planning to run alongside the train sometimes?  :)

There's a good idea.  Try to hop on board while it's moving!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 02, 2011, 08:51:55 pm

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Hey, one's a good place to start. The next day, two, then four, eight, and you're on your way! I started easy, and now I'm up to a peak heart rate of 150 bpm and 150 strides a minute! If ancient me can do it, you can too!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on January 03, 2011, 01:28:15 am
There's a good idea.  Try to hop on board while it's moving!

I'd just as soon you stayed cuddle-y and refrained from the stunts, if it's all the same to you.  :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 03, 2011, 06:59:36 am
I'd just as soon you stayed cuddle-y and refrained from the stunts, if it's all the same to you.  :laugh:

 :laugh:

Well, today at work is the weigh in!  I've already weighed in on my Wii, so no surprises.  Haven't lost anything, but haven't gained.

Of coruse, today I'm restarting the Fat Smash diet, and it would be cool if I could lose 10 pounds in 9 days like I did last time I did it!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on January 03, 2011, 07:46:30 am
Hey, look what the wind blew in!

A voucher check from Weight Watchers in my letterbox!

With an option for online participation, which is what I planned to do.

So there ain't much avoiding it now, is there?  ::)

I'll look into it, how it works and such.

My scale at home isn't really reliable, so I won't start until Friday when I go back to work. There we have a professional scale.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on January 03, 2011, 09:32:12 am
Sonja - I loved the WW online tools. And invested quite a lot of time in it - entering recipes and fave foods. There are even message boards where once in awhile you meet like-minded people.

That said, though, the best thing I discovered was breakfast and lunch were fine but it all went out the window with supper due to dining out and glasses of wine.

I was talking to a friend who told me (sensibly, I think) to eat that 7 servings of fruits and vegetables every day. On days I do that, I don't have much room left over for a larger meal at night. And of course complex carbs instead of white bread and white rice; go for more colors and less processing. I'm going to try it.

But WW works for many - Meryl's had good luck with it.

Let us know what you decide!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on January 03, 2011, 10:17:21 am
Thanks Lynne.

I don't have much of a choice, really. I HAVE to loose weight now, before it gets out of my control totally.

I've been very successful with WW before, lost 37 kg (about the double in pounds) with them.

But this time I don't want to go to the meetings, it's too time consuming.
So I thought the online alternative would suit me perfect.

I'll let you know, for sure!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 03, 2011, 10:19:50 am
My scale at home isn't really reliable, so I won't start until Friday when I go back to work. There we have a professional scale.


Even professional scales can be off.  The scale that we have at work for the weigh-ins, we tested.  I took a 5 pound weight to work, and placed it on the scale, and it came up at 5 pounds exactly, so we know it's accurate.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 03, 2011, 10:40:13 am
Food frauds that can wreck your diet!


http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/slideshow-foods-that-can-wreck-your-diet
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on January 03, 2011, 11:38:03 am

Even professional scales can be off.  The scale that we have at work for the weigh-ins, we tested.  I took a 5 pound weight to work, and placed it on the scale, and it came up at 5 pounds exactly, so we know it's accurate.


I know you can't trust them all. But the scale at work is the one used by the midwives, so I'm pretty sure it's correct.
It's a good idea to test it though. Easily done, with an unopened package of something from the kitchen!  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on January 03, 2011, 12:00:13 pm
Food frauds that can wreck your diet!


http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/slideshow-foods-that-can-wreck-your-diet

Thanks for the link.

Good reminders, but nothing that was really new to me.

Also when I'm not on a diet, I try to stay off ready made and fast food as much as possible.

Even when you're making the best choices available, it's never particularly healthy food.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 04, 2011, 07:21:10 pm
Food frauds that can wreck your diet!


http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/slideshow-foods-that-can-wreck-your-diet

With 23 different food frauds, there was a lot to learn or be reminded of here! Thanks, Chuck!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 04, 2011, 07:28:21 pm
Day 2 of the Fat Smash Diet is near completed.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 04, 2011, 07:53:50 pm
I joined WW's online plan yesterday. I like the new points system! I get 9 more points than I used to on WW (partly because I've gained some weight, and you get more if you're heavier), and all kinds of things are point-free under the new rules. An orange! A banana! I fell about 9 points short of my daily allowance -- which you're not supposed to do, but honestly I wasn't any hungrier than that -- and of course didn't even dip into my weekly 49 bonus points.

So far, so good!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on January 04, 2011, 09:21:55 pm
I joined WW's online plan yesterday. I like the new points system! I get 9 more points than I used to on WW (partly because I've gained some weight, and you get more if you're heavier), and all kinds of things are point-free under the new rules. An orange! A banana! I fell about 9 points short of my daily allowance -- which you're not supposed to do, but honestly I wasn't any hungrier than that -- and of course didn't even dip into my weekly 49 bonus points.

So far, so good!

That's great, Katherine!  You and I can compare notes now.  You should really try to eat enough to make your daily points allowance, though.  Those points don't carry over from day to day and are the minimum you need to stay energized.  If you choose not to use your 49 extra weekly points, then that's okay.  You probably will take off the weight faster.

I've found the new points system works well for me and love the points-free fruits.  I can eat bananas and grapes now without worrying about adding points, and they really fill in the gaps wonderfully.  I'm pleased that over the two-week holiday period I managed to gain less than a pound, and I had some pretty fattening meals!  :P

The thing I have to work hardest on this year is getting more exercise.  :-\

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 04, 2011, 09:56:55 pm
That's great, Katherine!  You and I can compare notes now.  You should really try to eat enough to make your daily points allowance, though.  Those points don't carry over from day to day and are the minimum you need to stay energized.

True, I know WW teachers in the past have always lectured us to "eat your points." But there are so many now! The amount I ate yesterday was my total daily allowance, last time I was in WW. It was really hard some days to stay within that limit, especially if I drank alcohol or went to a restaurant. So I'm really welcoming the extra points. And after this first ambitious burst I'll probably start consuming more of them.

Quote
I've found the new points system works well for me and love the points-free fruits.  I can eat bananas and grapes now without worrying about adding points,

Yes, that makes the biggest difference. I've always tried to eat three fruits a day. In the past, that meant three or more points. Now they're free!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 05, 2011, 12:04:31 am
For dinner, I roasted cauliflower:

Cut 1 head of cauliflower into florets. Toss with three or four cloves garlic, roughly chopped, the juice of half a lemon (or to taste), 1 1/2 T olive oil, salt, pepper and a dusting of smoky Paprika. Roast at 400 for about 30 minutes. Sprinkle with 1 1/2 T grated Parmesan.

Yum! I had it with leftover prime rib, trimmed of fat and weighed on my kitchen scale.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2011, 06:58:50 am

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

Fat Smash Diet is working it's magic again!  I'm back down to 220lbs after being on it for only 2 days.  ;D  5 more pounds and I'll be back down to the weight I have listed in my personal ad.  Truth in advertising and all that.  :laugh:
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on January 05, 2011, 10:06:57 am
Did just over an hour of walking on the treadmill this morning!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2011, 10:17:45 am
Fantastic Kelda!

 ;D

I just finished my second bout of going up and down the stairs and around the building.  #3 is about to happen soon.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 05, 2011, 11:05:56 am
This is all very inspiring...Brokies getting fit!! I sense a real determination this year. People are realizing that being fit is e a life or death matter. One of the big excuses for not excercising is "I don't have time." Well, if you don't take time now, then you can just plan to take the time at the end of your life. You may have a shorter life or, worse, you may have a shorter period of health at the end of your life. What a drag that would be!

I have to have a talk with my mother about this, because when I chauffered her to her music class last week, she had a lot of trouble getting out of the car. It would be a pity if she couldn't go anyplace because she can't get in and out of the car. Her muscles are atrophying because she doesn't use them. And no, I'm not going to pull her out of cars and have her lean on me to walk, that's just ridiculous!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2011, 12:50:07 pm
People are realizing that being fit is e a life or death matter. One of the big excuses for not excercising is "I don't have time." Well, if you don't take time now, then you can just plan to take the time at the end of your life. You may have a shorter life or, worse, you may have a shorter period of health at the end of your life. What a drag that would be!





(http://www.funnyandjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/dieting-cartoon-comic-glasbergen.gif)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2011, 12:51:07 pm
(http://www.funnyandjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/online-diet-tips.gif)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2011, 12:52:40 pm
(http://www.glasbergen.com/images/fit17.gif)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2011, 12:53:46 pm
(http://www.sobofitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/skinny_channel.gif)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2011, 12:56:34 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ik7hX_wotig/SewIRWX7pkI/AAAAAAAACC4/btKDASSu8Jc/s400/Glasbergen+comic+4.gif)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2011, 12:58:58 pm
(http://www.glasbergen.com/wp-content/gallery/body-image-cartoons/diet156.gif)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on January 05, 2011, 01:31:16 pm
(http://www.glasbergen.com/images/fit17.gif)

This is my daily lament!  I think when God created food, the Devil got busy and invented calories.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 05, 2011, 01:39:07 pm
I have to have a talk with my mother about this, because when I chauffered her to her music class last week, she had a lot of trouble getting out of the car. It would be a pity if she couldn't go anyplace because she can't get in and out of the car. Her muscles are atrophying because she doesn't use them. And no, I'm not going to pull her out of cars and have her lean on me to walk, that's just ridiculous!!

My mother was like this. She never exercised, never even walked, and eventually could hardly get around. When there's a choice of an escalator or elevator vs. stairs to go up (or especially down) a floor or two, I tell my kids that if you don't take the stairs you eventually won't be able to take the stairs.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on January 05, 2011, 02:44:16 pm
LOL Chuck!

They're all good!   :laugh:


Love the name of that cartoonist. Glasbergen means "the glass mountains" in Swedish.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on January 07, 2011, 12:33:42 pm
So here goes!

I bought orthotic gel inserts at CVS for my shoes and I'm going out for my first walk/jog right now.  I'm posting it here so that I have to come back and post how I did.  Accountability.

The plan (should I not return - Ronny/Paul/Andrew  ;)) is to take West Springfield to Tremont, go east on Tremont, to Rutland.  From Rutland, I am going north (toward Copley) back to Columbus and home.

Baby steps.  But I bet it takes me 30-45 minutes, which is what I'm after.

 8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 07, 2011, 12:40:04 pm
Work it, Lynne!

I'm still working on the Fat Smash diet......progress is slow at the mo.....but I'm still eating right and exercising.  5 pounds in 5 days.....can't complain.

I should have more drop off soon.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: SuperDistortion on January 07, 2011, 01:01:04 pm
So here goes!

I bought orthotic gel inserts at CVS for my shoes and I'm going out for my first walk/jog right now.  I'm posting it here so that I have to come back and post how I did.  Accountability.

The plan (should I not return - Ronny/Paul/Andrew  ;)) is to take West Springfield to Tremont, go east on Tremont, to Rutland.  From Rutland, I am going north (toward Copley) back to Columbus and home.

Baby steps.  But I bet it takes me 30-45 minutes, which is what I'm after.

 8)
Avoid the cobble stone.  Watch where you step.   No sprinting.   Dress warmly.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 07, 2011, 01:11:58 pm
Today was the first day since late November when I put on my corduroy pants and they fit comfortably around the waist. I'm jazzed!!

Also I'd like to pass along a lunch tip. I've learned to make sandwiches with no bread. Two cucumber, parsnip or turnip slices with filling in between...I use spicy guacamole. It makes a tasty, filling, healthy sandwich!!

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on January 07, 2011, 03:17:53 pm
Work it, Lynne!

I'm still working on the Fat Smash diet......progress is slow at the mo.....but I'm still eating right and exercising.  5 pounds in 5 days.....can't complain.

I should have more drop off soon.

Thank you for the encouragement, Chuckie!  You're an inspiration all your own!

Avoid the cobble stone.  Watch where you step.   No sprinting.   Dress warmly.

I love you too, Ronny.   :-* :-* :-*

As I mentioned, Paul called, probably to make sure I didn't over-do it and remembered to cool down.  You guys.   ::)

Here's the route I took:

My First 5K Training Run (http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/26728270)

If you've got the right plug ins you can see the neighborhood.  I even took some pictures while walking/resting.  I was pleasantly surprised that I could walk about a block, jog (gently) about 2-3 blocks, then walk another block...for about 1 mile over 40 minutes.  I was expecting to have to start off at the 30 seconds walk/30 seconds jog level, so this is all good.

(Y'all get over there and register for the AIDS Walk/Run now!!)

 :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on January 09, 2011, 07:21:27 pm




Is it Food??
[Flowchart]



(http://summertomato.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Real-Food-Flowchart-2.png)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/darya-pino/is-it-real-food-flowchart_b_805406.html


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 10, 2011, 07:10:37 am

Lost another pound!  7 days on the Fat Smash diet, 6 pounds gone!

;D


(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

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Post by: serious crayons on January 10, 2011, 09:38:07 am
Is it Food??
[Flowchart]


Thanks for posting that, John! I LOVE flow charts!




Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on January 10, 2011, 12:51:14 pm
Good going, Chuck!  8)

I put on only a pound over the holidays, but it's coming off ever so slowly.  Weight's a bitch.  :P
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on January 10, 2011, 11:05:13 pm


Thanks for posting that, John! I LOVE flow charts!


You're welcome, Katherine!

 ________________
|                             |
|"Was it ever alive?" |
|________________ |
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            V

           No
           
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| "You are probably in the home improvement aisle"|
| ________________________________________  |


 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on January 11, 2011, 04:55:13 am
I've downloaded a great FREE! app on to my android smart phone - I would think it will be available on the iphone too.

My fitness pal

It has a website too at www.myfitnesspal.com

You can record what you eat and how many calories it has and what exercise youve done and how many calaroies youve burnt (it works it all out for you) and then it tells you your aim of calories to lose (or remain steady or gain) x amount of lbs per week.

Its really good!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 11, 2011, 06:53:55 am

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)


Scale says I lost two more pounds today!  ;D  Down to 217,  8 pounds in 8 days.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 11, 2011, 11:36:41 am
Only 1 pound, my first week on WW. I thought I was doing better than that. Maybe the new points system is TOO easy.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 11, 2011, 12:13:59 pm
Katherine, I hope your body hasn't decided that there's a famine and it needs to conserve all its calories! You might try upping the exercise a notch to get your metabolism going. Although with all the snow shoveling you would think it would be on high already!

Way to go Chuck, you certainly have this fat smash thing covered!! You should be ready for Stage 2 pretty soon, right?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 11, 2011, 12:39:22 pm
Katherine, I hope your body hasn't decided that there's a famine and it needs to conserve all its calories!

I hope not, too. My body is good at starvation-conditions Darwinian-style survival. I would be much envied if this were the Pleistocene Era, even if my bearskin clothes were getting a little snug.

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 11, 2011, 12:40:41 pm
Way to go Chuck, you certainly have this fat smash thing covered!! You should be ready for Stage 2 pretty soon, right?

Tomorrow is supposed to be the beginning of Phase 2 of Fat Smash, with Phase 1 lasting nine days.  However, I want to extend my Phase 1 to a full 2 weeks, meaning I'll start Phase 2 next Tuesday instead of tomorrow.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 11, 2011, 09:44:52 pm


      Great job Lynnie.  You are a winner.  I know you can do it all the way to the
end.  You have moxie.   Love ya, and rooting for you always.   Janice
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on January 11, 2011, 10:03:37 pm
Thank you, Mama Janice  :-* :-*

I was just going to post here that the weather is conspiring against me and my training plan. But at least I did get in a brisk 40 minute walk today. I walked from work to a bus stop I don't normally use.

Of course that was also to make sure I got home before the blizzard starts.

:)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on January 11, 2011, 10:04:40 pm
Only 1 pound, my first week on WW. I thought I was doing better than that. Maybe the new points system is TOO easy.

One pound is nothing to sneeze at!  I'm glad to hear you're on WW, Katherine.  I think the new system is better than the old, so I hope you stick with it.  8)

After gaining a pound over the holidays and having trouble taking it off, I got weighed today and had lost almost a pound and a half!  So overall, I've averaged a pound a week since starting in November.  If I can keep that up, I could be at goal by next November.  That's almost inconceivable to me after being overweight most of my adult life, but I'm willing to be convinced.  :D

Congrats to all, and good luck.  Keep at it!  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 12, 2011, 10:57:58 am
I don't know what it is today, the snow, the fact that there's not a lot of people to talk to.....but I've got the munchies today!

 >:(

And this place still has a bunch of candy and such left over from the holidays, and I have a craving for Chinese Buffet today.

 >:(

I'm battling the munchies by brushing my teeth after my meals and small snacks, and saying to myself;  "you just brushed your teeth, snacking will make them dirty again!"

 :laugh:

By lunch time, I'll give up on the idea of Chinese Buffet and hit the local salad bar.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 12, 2011, 11:11:04 am
Yes and all that candy is stale anyway. It should be thrown away! Hang in there friend!

My goal this month is to work out every other day. So far, I'm on schedule! I'm walking down to the gym to work out first thing this morning. After that, breakfast and a shower. Then I'm ready for anything anybody wants to throw at me, but not before then!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on January 12, 2011, 12:43:58 pm
I don't know what it is today, the snow, the fact that there's not a lot of people to talk to.....but I've got the munchies today!

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/Catchall/StarTrekmunchies.jpg)

You are not alone, Chuck!  At any rate, I trust you will use logic and come to the conclusion that the munchies and Fat Smash are like matter and anti-matter when it comes to dieting.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 12, 2011, 03:09:01 pm
Yay! I've lost 2 pounds. I'm now a third of the way to my goal! At this rate, I'll reach my goal by Valentine's Day...what a great goal!!

I haven't changed my eating patterns all that much. Mostly just working out on the elliptical for 30 mins every other day. Also a little weight training and about 20 sit-ups or what we now call crunches on the inclined bench.

My aerobic workout on the Cybex elliptical is almost twice as strenuous as the same time last year. I usually stay in the 4-7 bar range whereas last year I was working in the 2-4 bar range. I now try to maintain 100 strides per minute and an average heart beat of 120 bpm, with a peak of about 130-140. Last year I hardly ever got my bpm up above 120, and that's what I need in order to break a sweat. My target peak bpm for my age is 150 so I still have room to grow!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 12, 2011, 03:28:56 pm
Yay to Lee on the weight loss!

 ;D

As for the munchies, I had a few chocolate coverd pretzels.  The small twists, not the full sized rods.  However, I did have only a salad for lunch, I resisted the urge for Chinese.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 12, 2011, 03:42:28 pm
At this rate, I'll reach my goal by Valentine's Day

Just in time for a box of chocolates!  :)

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 12, 2011, 03:49:22 pm
Just in time for a box of chocolates!  :)


Mama always said; "Prostitutes are like a box of chocolates......you pay more for the better ones."
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 12, 2011, 04:05:45 pm
I thought she said, "You never know what you're going to get" with a Southern accent?

Naw, the present I was thinking of for myself is Brokeback Mountain playing at the Esquire Theater in Denver at midnight...I'm looking forward to it so much!!

I buy chocolates on Valentine's Day, but for my children, not for me. I do like those chocolate oranges though. It's good to have a wedge sometimes as a pick-me-up in the afternoon. It's about 1 oz, just the right amount. Chocolate is chock full of antioxidants. But avoid those with sugar, milk, or other ingredients like nuts and toffie.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 12, 2011, 04:23:27 pm

Mama always said; "Prostitutes are like a box of chocolates......you pay more for the better ones."

Your mama advised you on selecting a prostitute?  :laugh:

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on January 12, 2011, 06:07:50 pm
well done Lee and Chuck!

Monday to Wednesday have been successful, the app on my phone is working well at keeping me to my calorie intake of 1290 a day and making me want to do an extra 10min walk so i can have that extra 100 calories to eat etc... !

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 12, 2011, 08:25:44 pm
Yay, Kelda. Love the new technological tools for keeping fit.

I had a great salad today for lunch. I chopped up a hard-boiled egg, a zucchini, a small sweet pepper, some escarole, 3 little cornichons (I rinsed them first to remove excess salt and sugar), some roasted potatoes, skins on, and half a red onion. I tossed it with a little dijon mustard, the kind that has no added salt or sugar. Delish!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 14, 2011, 07:12:36 am
Lost another pound!  12 days on the Fat Smash diet, 9 pounds gone!

;D


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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 14, 2011, 01:19:54 pm
Most excellent friend! You've probably shared details about this diet, but could you expand, er expound er, talk more about it?

I like to have a bowl of whole grains once per day, most often at breakfast but sometimes at lunch or dinner. I picked up a free book called World Tastes, Buying and Preparing Bulk Foods at Whole Foods and I use it quite often. It covers beans, grains, rice, flours, pasta, nuts and seeds, sea vegetables, mixes, liquids and dried fruits. It's fun to experiment with the grains. Amaranth, barley, bear mush, buckwheat, bulgar, couscous, kamut, millet, oat groats and rolled, quinoa, popcorn, rye, 7 grain cereal, teff, spelt, triticale, cracked wheat, wheat berries and flakes, and corn are the grains mentioned. Quinoa and millet are my current favorites.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 14, 2011, 03:12:04 pm

The Fat Smash Diet was developed by Dr. Ian Smith and is used on the TV show Celebrity Fit Club.

http://www.fatsmashdiet.com/

It's basically a way to "relearn" how to eat.  Instead of three meals a day, you eat six times a day, but smaller portions.

In the first phase of the Fat Smash Diet, food choices should be eaten raw, grilled or steamed. Fats are limited to a maximum of 3 tablespoons, with 1 to 2 teaspoons olive oil per day. Allowed foods include unlimited fruits and vegetables (except white potatoes or avocado), chickpeas, lentils, tofu, and beans. It also permits limited amounts of brown rice; low-fat, skim, or soy milk; oatmeal; low-fat yogurt; egg whites; and herbal tea. This is the total menu for nine days.

Phase 2: Foundation is a three-week period introducing additional foods, maintaining the schedule of four to five small meals throughout the day, and enjoying them simply prepared as defined in phase one. Foods allowed in limited quantities in this phase include avocado, lean meats, seafood, whole egg, cheese, a variety of whole-grain cereals, granulated sugar, butter, fat-free mayo, coffee (10 ounces a day), fruit juice, diet soda, lemonade, and club soda.

Phase 3: Construction is a four-week period embodying the principles of the first two phases, with the ability to add more foods into the plan. Portions are a little larger but still limited. Pasta and bread are introduced for the first time, along with one dessert per day, chosen from a short list of acceptable sweets.

Phase 4: The Temple is the final stage and one that the author promises will last a lifetime. In the phase wine, beer, pizza, and potatoes are now included, accompanying the guiding principles of exercise, portion control, not skipping meals, and eating four to five times daily.


This is my second time on Fat Smash, I strayed off of it.  The first time I tried it, in the first 9 days I lost 10 pounds.  This time around, as of the first 7 days I lost 6 pounds.  I've decided not to stop Phase one at 9 days, but continue for a full two weeks, and then  move on to Phase 2.   On the TV show (which takes out of shape celebrities and works them back into shape) some of the contestants have lost as much as 14 pounds in the first 9 days, but of course, they are exercising vigorously.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 15, 2011, 09:30:57 pm
Lose weight, stay active: Six small changes can help keep off pounds

By ConsumerReportsHealth.org

Trying to reverse the 1-to-2-pounds-a-year weight gain that is the fate of the average middle-aged American? Overwhelmed at the thought of changing your lifestyle enough to reach a healthful weight?

Fortunately, there is an alternative approach to the drastic diet and exercise revisions that Americans find so difficult to embark on and sustain. The idea is to start with smaller, easier changes that will, at the very least, halt the weight-creep and give encouraging results.

"We find that people who make small changes will often lose a few pounds," said James O. Hill, Ph.D., director of the Anschutz Health and Wellness Center at the University of Colorado at Denver. "Those who start with small changes often end up able to make more and bigger changes and lose more weight."

Here are a half-dozen small changes you can make right now:


1. Stop drinking calories
2. Eat more protein
3. Eat more fiber
4. Lead yourself not into temptation
5. Add 2,000 steps a day
6. Cut your screen time

*Details on each item on the list can be found at this link*

http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/yshoppingarticles/494/lose-weight-stay-active-six-small-changes-can-help-keep-off-pounds/
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 18, 2011, 08:50:53 pm
Dang, I think I'm caught in a do-loop. I gain 2 pounds every weekend, and I take it off again in the subsequent week. Must get out of sitting and eating all day on Sundays!! The mountains are calling to me!

Question for Chuck: how can we make salads more interesting?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 18, 2011, 10:00:30 pm
How to make a salad interesting?

Add different things to it.

Instead of iceberg lettuce, use spinach.  Use different seasonings or dressings. 

I like spicy stuff and wasabi.  I add a little "Wasabi Blast" to my salad to give it extra cruch, and extra heat.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on January 18, 2011, 11:09:00 pm
You can get calorie-free crunch from water chestnuts and celery and carrots too.  I've started planning what's going in the little garden spot this spring.

 :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on January 19, 2011, 11:08:48 am
Dang, I think I'm caught in a do-loop. I gain 2 pounds every weekend, and I take it off again in the subsequent week.

I get caught in those things, too.

Right now, though, I seem to be gradually creeping down. I'm down about 3 lbs altogether. I'd like to lose faster, but fast or slow I like the direction I'm going.

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Question for Chuck: how can we make salads more interesting?

I know you asked Chuck, but what I do is put just about anything on a bed of arugula or mache, lightly dressed with a touch of olive oil and lemon or vinegar. I use leftovers from the previous night's dinner, including taco fillings of course but also chicken, meatloaf, etc. And I usually keep a package of smoked salmon in the fridge for this purpose, too. I love smoked salmon, not to mention all those omega-3s!


 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on January 20, 2011, 05:26:59 am
Well I've been doing my healthy eating for 11 days now using the myfitnesspal app.

I had a weekend with 10 friends in aviemore at the weekend so I knew i wouldn't keep to my calorie intake on the saturday, what with big bowls of pasta and garlic breads, alcoholic drinks, cake and nibbles. I went 1200 calories over! which is the equivalent of one days calorie intake.. eek!

But I weighed myself last night and Ive still lost 2pounds so I'm chuffed as the programme aim on the 1260 calories a day is a loss of 2 pounds per week. And I'm a week and a half in.

I can eat more calories if i do exercise - the Net figure is 1260 so if I burn 150 calories doing pilates - the app works this out for me - I can then have 1260+150!)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 20, 2011, 07:18:55 am
Yaaaaaaaaaay Kelda!

Congrats on the loss!   ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 20, 2011, 01:31:21 pm
I second that! Don't you love technology (sometimes)?!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on January 20, 2011, 04:57:46 pm
Congrats on the weight loss, Kelda!  :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on January 20, 2011, 05:52:59 pm
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 20, 2011, 11:27:48 pm
Just go to...sleep! Researchers at the University of Chicago found that dieters who sleep 8 1/2 hours lose 56% more than those who sleep 5 1/2 hours. Sleep deprivation may cause a spike in an appetite stimulating hormone. Or, it may be simpler than that. When you're sleeping, you can't be eating or drinking!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on January 21, 2011, 05:30:11 am
Just go to...sleep! Researchers at the University of Chicago found that dieters who sleep 8 1/2 hours lose 56% more than those who sleep 5 1/2 hours. Sleep deprivation may cause a spike in an appetite stimulating hormone. Or, it may be simpler than that. When you're sleeping, you can't be eating or drinking!

Very true.. I nibble late at night..
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 21, 2011, 07:14:31 am
Lost another pound!  20 days on the Fat Smash diet, 10 pounds gone!

;D


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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 24, 2011, 04:08:28 pm
Yay, Chuck! And thanks to Chuck and Kathryn for the salad suggestions! And yay Kathryn!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 01, 2011, 09:53:46 am

Some inspiration I stumbled across on YouTube.


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAcwcqOPcHM[/youtube]

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 01, 2011, 11:32:09 am
I weighed myself yesterday and lI lost 3.5 pounds last week! So 7lbs lost in total since 11 Jan to bring me down to 15stone 7lbs!

Another 3 stones to go to my target!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on February 02, 2011, 12:00:44 am
Wow, you've been busy, Kelda.  Congrats!   8)  8)  8)

I'm on a plateau between a nine and ten pound loss, but it's coming off, if ever so slowly.  :P
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 02, 2011, 05:13:51 am
Thanks meryl! And congrats to you too!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 05, 2011, 05:48:35 pm
Fantastic news Kelda!   Congrats on that.

I'm dreading the scale on Monday, I'm certain that I will have gained weight while I was in LA.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 06, 2011, 10:31:31 am
Thankyou! Don't think I've lost more than a 1lb if that this week though.. And I havent done anything different..eaten any more or exercised less!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 07, 2011, 05:57:31 am
Weekly weigh in this morning and this is the result after 4 weeks:

Weight today (07/02/11): 15st 5lbs

Starting weight (10/01/11): 16 st 0lbs

Weight Loss this week: 2lbs

Total Weight Lost: 9lbs



Really pleased as I sneakily weigh myself during the weeek and I had thought uh-oh havent lost anything this week.. and here I had!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 07, 2011, 06:36:35 am
Total Weight Lost: 9lbs



Really pleased as I sneakily weigh myself during the weeek and I had thought uh-oh havent lost anything this week.. and here I had!

Good for you, darlin'!  :-*

With my recent trip to LA and the Superbowl party last night, I went in the other direction.


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I gained three pounds, but it could've been much worse!  I'm back to my diet and exercise routine, already had a work out today, and it's 5:30am here.

I'll rebound quickly.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 07, 2011, 07:10:08 am
I have no doubt you will Chuck! xx
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 07, 2011, 09:01:43 am
I THOUGHT I was just three pounds away from my goal...but my husband decided that the scale at the fitness center was off, and he recalibrated it, and now I am five pounds off my goal. That was disappointing! Nevertheless, I stuck to my diet even though it was my mother's birthday this weekend. For my Superbowl snack, I ate beet and blueberry soup. It was delicious! I only sneaked a few tortilla strips and bean dip.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on February 07, 2011, 09:14:23 am
already had a work out today, and it's 5:30am here.

 :o

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2011, 09:28:32 am
Folks, never, ever, EVER do what I just did this morning: I filled out a quick online survey that rewarded me with a free doughnut from Dunkin' Donuts.  :(
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 07, 2011, 10:06:13 am
There are traps everywhere, friend!  :(

My company recently instituted "Doughnut Friday" and I have to go to it. Last week, they announced a new Weight Watchers program AT THE DOUGHNUT MEETING! Is it needless to add that at BOTH of these meetings, employees are required to sit in a chair for nearly an hour? This does not compute!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2011, 11:51:06 am
There are traps everywhere, friend!  :(

My company recently instituted "Doughnut Friday" and I have to go to it.

Oh, dear! You are required to attend a meeting where there are doughnuts?  :(

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Last week, they announced a new Weight Watchers program AT THE DOUGHNUT MEETING! Is it needless to add that at BOTH of these meetings, employees are required to sit in a chair for nearly an hour? This does not compute!!

Talk about cross-purposes!  :(

Of course, what was really bad about the free doughnut was that you had to buy a medium coffee at least to get it. Of course, purchasing the coffee resulted in yet another receipt with yet another invitation to fill out the online survey to receive yet another free doughnut!

That could so easily become a bad habit.  :(
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 07, 2011, 12:05:49 pm
Now y'all have made me hungry for doughnuts!

 :laugh:


And I want to try this!  I can't find them anywhere.....


Red Velvet Doughnut!



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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on February 07, 2011, 12:15:18 pm
Of course, what was really bad about the free doughnut was that you had to buy a medium coffee at least to get it. Of course, purchasing the coffee resulted in yet another receipt with yet another invitation to fill out the online survey to receive yet another free doughnut!

That could so easily become a bad habit.  :(

Welcome to the marketing world.  :)

I think you need to find a deserving, reasonably thin, person to give that receipt to, Jeff.  Everyone deserves a donut once in awhile.  :)

Red Velvet Doughnut!

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Okay, don't make me come over to NJ and smack some sense into you, Chuck.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 07, 2011, 05:37:44 pm
Weekly weigh in this morning and this is the result after 4 weeks:

Weight today (07/02/11): 15st 5lbs

Starting weight (10/01/11): 16 st 0lbs

Weight Loss this week: 2lbs

Total Weight Lost: 9lbs



Really pleased as I sneakily weigh myself during the weeek and I had thought uh-oh havent lost anything this week.. and here I had!


Congrats Kelda!

That's 4,5 kg! Great!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 07, 2011, 05:41:22 pm
I THOUGHT I was just three pounds away from my goal...but my husband decided that the scale at the fitness center was off, and he recalibrated it, and now I am five pounds off my goal. That was disappointing! Nevertheless, I stuck to my diet even though it was my mother's birthday this weekend. For my Superbowl snack, I ate beet and blueberry soup. It was delicious! I only sneaked a few tortilla strips and bean dip.

Beet and blueberry soup?

Sounds delicious! Do you have a recipe, Lee?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 07, 2011, 05:44:27 pm

Red Velvet Doughnut!


(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/4566436836_248f78f2da.jpg)

 :o :o

That looks gross!

Not that I'm one to talk, I've never tried a donut (we don't have them here), but it still looks gross!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 07, 2011, 06:05:42 pm
Well i think the donut looks YUMMY!

Thanks Sason!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2011, 07:02:12 pm
Red Velvet Doughnut!



(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/4566436836_248f78f2da.jpg)

Tell you what, looks more like a red velvet whoopie pie to me.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on February 07, 2011, 07:32:01 pm
That looks like 2000 calories to me.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 07, 2011, 07:35:13 pm
from what I found online, it's about 400 calories. ;D


but still toooooo much!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 07, 2011, 09:20:58 pm



from what I found online, it's about 400 calories. ;D


Well, I guess you can eat four of them per day--as long as you don't eat anything else  (other than a multivitamin)~

 ::) :laugh:

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 ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 07, 2011, 10:18:21 pm



Well, I guess you can eat four of them per day--as long as you don't eat anything else  (other than a multivitamin)~

 ::) :laugh:
 ;D

Richard Crenna, phooeyyy!! YOU are the funniest man alive, friend!!

Regarding beet/blueberry soup, here is my impromptu recipe:

Peel and chop 2 beets into bite size pieces. Cover with a mixture that is 1 part dry white wine and 1 part water. Bring to a boil, turn down heat, cover and simmer until tender. Add 8 oz. blueberries, turn off heat and let cool, covered, 10 minutes. Spoon into a bowl, add a dash of hoisin sauce and serve.

There are many other things that could be added, lemon juice, herbs, vegetables, greens, feta cheese, etc. But I was feeling Spartan last nite, and this really hit the spot.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2011, 11:35:13 pm
Richard Crenna, phooeyyy!! YOU are the funniest man alive, friend!!

 ??? But Richard Crenna is dead.  ???

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001077/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001077/)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 08, 2011, 12:15:49 am
Just one more good reason why Richard Crenna can not be the funniest man alive!!  :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 08, 2011, 12:57:53 am



Just one more good reason why Richard Crenna can not be the funniest man alive!!  :D




Omg! I LOVED Richard Crenna!
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"Our Miss Brooks"
Dick Crenna (Walter Denton), Eve Aden (Connie Brooks), Gale Gordon (Osgood Conklin)

 :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 08, 2011, 07:39:32 am

Regarding beet/blueberry soup, here is my impromptu recipe:

Peel and chop 2 beets into bite size pieces. Cover with a mixture that is 1 part dry white wine and 1 part water. Bring to a boil, turn down heat, cover and simmer until tender. Add 8 oz. blueberries, turn off heat and let cool, covered, 10 minutes. Spoon into a bowl, add a dash of hoisin sauce and serve.

There are many other things that could be added, lemon juice, herbs, vegetables, greens, feta cheese, etc. But I was feeling Spartan last nite, and this really hit the spot.


Sounds delicious! Thanks Lee!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 10, 2011, 03:04:09 pm


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So much for the fast rebound.....lol.....4 days later, I've lost one pound!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 28, 2011, 06:10:06 am
Weekly weigh in this morning and this is the result since 10 January:

Weight today (28/02/11): 14st 9lbs

Starting weight (10/01/11): 16 st 0lbs

Weight Loss this week: 3lbs

Total Weight Lost: 19lbs


 ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on February 28, 2011, 11:10:05 am
That's fantastic Kelda!

I'm very proud of you!

As for me, I'm going in the other direction.  ::)  Today I put on a pair of dress pants for work, and I didn't need a belt to keep them up.  Your story has inspired me to get back to being active and watching what I eat.

I want to be thinner when the Brokie gatherings start to happen.

;D

I did my morning workout despite being so tired, and will be using my Ab Lounger to start doing crunches.




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I think that I have been in a rut exercise wise, and that's why I hit a platueau and went back up.  Starting today I'm going to be doing a workout at night after dinner.  After work (but before dinner) I'm going to alternate between using the Ab Lounger, the Bowflex, and my "Just Dance" games.  Mixing it up should help me stay interested and focused.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on February 28, 2011, 12:25:56 pm
Well you inspired me Chuck to get in better shape in the first place!

That's fantastic Kelda!

I'm very proud of you!

As for me, I'm going in the other direction.  ::)  Today I put on a pair of dress pants for work, and I didn't need a belt to keep them up.  Your story has inspired me to get back to being active and watching what I eat.

I want to be thinner when the Brokie gatherings start to happen.

;D

I did my morning workout despite being so tired, and will be using my Ab Lounger to start doing crunches.




(http://www.abloungershop.com/ab%20chair%20blue.jpg)


I think that I have been in a rut exercise wise, and that's why I hit a platueau and went back up.  Starting today I'm going to be doing a workout at night after dinner.  After work (but before dinner) I'm going to alternate between using the Ab Lounger, the Bowflex, and my "Just Dance" games.  Mixing it up should help me stay interested and focused.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on February 28, 2011, 12:48:05 pm
Kelda, that's wonderful!! I think it's new wardrobe time!!

Hang in there Chuck.

I also am in a rut, stuck 4 lbs from my goal. So close, and yet so far! My problem is that after a few days of virtuousity, I think I'm entitled to a treat or a break from exercising, so all my good work is wasted. I had a good workout this morning and added about 20% to my usual effort. So maybe that and the start of a new month will give me extra mojo!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Meryl on February 28, 2011, 02:41:36 pm
Glad to see some updates from y'all.  Kelda, that's amazing progress!  My weight loss is very slow by comparison.  I'm still at about 11 pounds lost, a couple of birthdays (my own included) having got in the way of progress.

Onward!  8)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on March 07, 2011, 05:53:13 am
Weekly weigh in this morning and this is the result since 10 January:

Weight today (07/03/11): 14st 7lbs
Starting weight (10/01/11): 16 st 0lbs
Weight Loss this week: 2lbs
Total Weight Lost: 21lbs = 1.5 stones!

Slow and steady... 2.5 stones to go!

8 weeks into my plan and I have 12 weeks 4 days till my holiday.. Hoping to be much nearer my goal weight by then. I realise that as I continue watching my weight in the same way, my weight loss will slow down though...
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Post by: Kelda on March 07, 2011, 05:55:24 am
Glad to see some updates from y'all.  Kelda, that's amazing progress!  My weight loss is very slow by comparison.  I'm still at about 11 pounds lost, a couple of birthdays (my own included) having got in the way of progress.

Onward!  8)

Thanks Meryl.. 11 pounds is amazing though.

On another forum i frequent someone posted this.. This is the equivalent of 1lb of fat. I'll never complain about 'only' losing say a 1/4 lb again!


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Post by: Monika on March 07, 2011, 06:08:52 am
I have finally gotten started on my diet and I´ve been on it for a week now. Not getting on any scale, though! O0
My problem has always been sugar - too much of it and an addiction to it. I haven´t had anything sugary to eat for a week now, and I don´t feel it so bad now any longer. I´m trying to exercise more but find it hard to have time for it other than on the weekends. I mostly sit on my ass at work, which doesn´t help.
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 07, 2011, 07:30:40 am
Well, I stated it on my blog and I'll state it here too.

For Lent I'm refocusing on my diet.  Lent starts Wednesday, I'm starting today.  No cheating on the diet, no snacks in-between, and making sure I get my exercise in.

I set up an exercise schedule last night, and made sure to make it random enough so that my body won't fall into a habit and cause a plateau.

It started this morning, and did about 25 minutes of exercise using an "Ab-lounger" for crunches, and the BoFlex for muscle training.
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 07, 2011, 09:38:17 am
And this is what happens when you stop exercising and eat too much.



(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)


Back to the drawning board.....
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Post by: Kelda on March 07, 2011, 10:13:33 am
Well, I stated it on my blog and I'll state it here too.

For Lent I'm refocusing on my diet.  Lent starts Wednesday, I'm starting today.  No cheating on the diet, no snacks in-between, and making sure I get my exercise in.

I set up an exercise schedule last night, and made sure to make it random enough so that my body won't fall into a habit and cause a plateau.

It started this morning, and did about 25 minutes of exercise using an "Ab-lounger" for crunches, and the BoFlex for muscle training.

With that schedule you'll be back on track in no time!
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 07, 2011, 11:43:31 am
I'm looking forward to Lent too. Lent is the secret reason why many French men and women stay svelte. During Lent, I enjoy "spa food": fish, vegetarian food, Asian cuisine, salads and other raw foods, whole grains, and abundant fruits and vegetables. I take an austere approach to everything, cleansing my body, mind, and habits. I try to enjoy Nature, good books and my friends as much as possible.

Kelda, thanks for posting that lump of "fat". It's great to be able to visualize what needs to begone from our bodies!!

My quest to lose those last four pounds is progressing. Last week, I worked out on Monday, Tuesday, and on Thursday I went for a long snowshoeing trip in the mountains. I managed to hold off on snacking during the afternoons, and I set 8 pm as the time when nothing else would pass my lips. This week, I worked out Sunday so far and am hoping to do as well as last week but to cut out snacking on my favorite cheating food, raw almonds. There are a few other things I can cut out too. I put on my skinny pants from last spring; while they are still a bit tight, I can wear them. I'm going to keep on wearing them until they have become comfortable! I've lost one of the four pounds and I'm 25% from my goal!!
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Post by: southendmd on March 07, 2011, 03:19:00 pm
Just getting caught up here. 

Super congrats to Kelda!  And Meryl, you rock!  Lee, I like your attitude. 

Chuckie, major bummer.  I think using Lent as a jump-start is a great idea.  Back to the diet, and  your instruments of torture exercise regimen.

I've yo-yoed a bit over the last few months too.  Just can't loosen up on my own rules!
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 07, 2011, 04:31:22 pm
Chuckie, major bummer.  I think using Lent as a jump-start is a great idea.  Back to the diet, and  your instruments of torture exercise regimen.


Well, I can tell that I'm not eating as much, as my stomach is growling.  I kept to the diet part so far.....no in between snacking.

;D
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 08, 2011, 07:33:41 am
(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png) (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

Not sure how I lost 4 pounds in one day, but I won't complain!  ;D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 14, 2011, 10:10:58 pm
You go, Chuck! I'm beginning Lent on a good note. One of my 4 unwanted pounds is gone. Spent the weekend helping to install a sprinkler system for friend EDelMar, meaning digging a number of 3 ft deep trenches. Hard work! And I feel like I really got a workout.
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Post by: Kelda on March 15, 2011, 05:11:20 am
Well done lee and Chuck.

No lbs lost for me this week.. boo.. but no gain either.
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 15, 2011, 06:03:06 am
No new losses yet here, but after a quick 4 pound drop, I expected that.  LOL

It should change this week.
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Post by: delalluvia on March 16, 2011, 11:49:25 pm
Grumble grumble.   >:( >:(

Was exercising regularly and dieting, up until last month's snowstorm disaster and subsequent bad sinus infection that followed.  Finally feeling well enough to start working out and found out all the weight I'd lost started creeping back on again.  Have to start all over.

Just read a Yahoo story on what diet foods wreck your diet by the"Eat this not that!" people and saw a link to a list of 20 best/worst cereals.   Curious, I went to check it out.  What is the 'best cereal'?  A really gross bran cereal that I've already tried.  It looks and tastes like guinea pig pellets unless you douse it in sugar/sugar substitute and even then it's hardly palatable.

Any reason why stuff that tastes good is almost always bad for you?
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 17, 2011, 10:52:42 am
Still digging those trenches. It's gonna be nice when I can get back to the gym! So sore this morning I can hardly get out of bed. Good thing I have green pyjamas!!
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 18, 2011, 06:25:54 am

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

Another pound gone, and I just missed (according to the scale) making it two, so I believe I'll be down more by the end of the weekend.

;D
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 21, 2011, 08:02:53 am

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

Another pound gone.
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Post by: Kelda on March 21, 2011, 05:25:17 pm
Well done! No loss again this week but thats not a surprise.. was away for a weekend with my Mum and had dinner bed and breakfast fot 2 nights... lots of goodies! xx
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 28, 2011, 07:52:31 am

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

Another pound gone.  ;D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 28, 2011, 09:57:49 am
Yay Chuck!!  :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on April 07, 2011, 04:57:51 pm
I've been away for a few days seeing my unt and uncle.. they like to feed us lots of rich food and drink.. dread to think what my weigh in will be like tomorrow!!
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Post by: Front-Ranger on April 07, 2011, 09:35:51 pm
Welcome back!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Kelda on April 08, 2011, 07:45:53 am
I'm 14st 5 so down 2lbs... I think I was down a bit more before the holiday but I put a pound or two back on but thats still down from my last official weigh in!
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Post by: Sason on April 14, 2011, 05:07:24 pm
Dr. Chang

Q: Doctor,  I've heard that  cardiovascular exercise can prolong life.  Is this true?
A: Your heart only good for so many beats, and that it... Don't waste on exercise.  Everything wear out eventually.  Speeding up heart not make you live longer; it like saying you extend life of car by driving faster.  Want to live longer?  Take nap.

Q: Should I reduce my alcohol intake?

A:  No, not at all.  Wine made from fruit.  Brandy is distilled wine, that mean they take water out of fruity bit so you get even more of goodness that way.  Beer also made of grain.  Bottom up!

Q: How  can I calculate my body/fat ratio?
A: Well, if you have body and you have fat, your ratio one to one.  If you have two bodies, your ratio two to one, etc.

Q: What  are some of  the advantages of participating in a regular exercise program?
A: Can't think of single one, sorry.  My philosophy is: No pain...good!      

Q:  Aren't fried foods bad for you?
A:  YOU NOT LISTENING!  Food are fried these day in vegetable oil.  In fact, they permeated by it.  How could getting more vegetable be bad for you?!?

Q:  Will  sit-ups help prevent me from getting a little soft around the middle?
A: Definitely not!  When you exercise muscle, it get bigger.  You should only be doing sit-up if you want bigger stomach.

Q:  Is chocolate bad for me?
A:  Are you crazy?!?  HEL-LO-O!!  Cocoa bean!  Another vegetable!  It best feel-good food around!

Q:  Is swimming good for your figure?
A:  If swimming good for your figure, explain whale to me..

Q:  Is getting in shape important for my lifestyle?
A:  Hey!  'Round' is shape!  

Well... I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions you may have had about food and diets.

And  remember:

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!!"

AND.....

For  those of you who watch what you eat, here's the final word on nutrition and health.  It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting nutritional studies.

1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

CONCLUSION:
Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on April 14, 2011, 05:15:53 pm
Thanks for the laff, friend!  ;D
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Post by: Sason on April 15, 2011, 10:36:44 am
Laff??

Dr Chang is very serious about this!!!    8)   
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Post by: Kelda on April 26, 2011, 06:23:20 am
Weighed in this morning. And I am now under 200lbs!!!!!

I am 199lbs (14stone 3)... I have lost 25lbs since January 10th and have 27lbs to go... 1 more 1lb and I'll be half way there!
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Post by: CellarDweller on April 26, 2011, 07:59:23 am
 ;D

That's fantastic, Kelda!!  Congratulations!!   :-*
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Post by: Front-Ranger on April 26, 2011, 09:51:48 am
Yay Kelda!! That app must be working for you...tell us your other secrets!!
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Post by: Meryl on April 26, 2011, 10:28:53 am
Weighed in this morning. And I am now under 200lbs!!!!!

I am 199lbs (14stone 3)... I have lost 25lbs since January 10th and have 27lbs to go... 1 more 1lb and I'll be half way there!

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/merylmarie/gold_star.png)

YAY, KELDA!
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Post by: Monika on April 26, 2011, 10:38:43 am
Impressive, Kelda!
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Post by: Kelda on April 26, 2011, 01:55:13 pm
Thanks guys.. slow and steady wins the race I hope!
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Post by: Sason on April 26, 2011, 02:16:44 pm
Yay, Kelda!! Congrats!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 20, 2011, 12:43:20 pm
How's everybody doing in getting fit for summer (winter for you down under)? I have made some progress even though I haven't been able to work out at the gym except for a handful of times this month. At the turn of the month, I made a rigorous pack trip to the Utah canyonlands. Between carrying a moderately heavy pack, climbing and hiking for three days, and eating dehydrated food, I came home ripped!! And then last weekend I spent three days helping my daughter pack all her belongings, paint her entire new house, and move in, going long hours between meals. So, I have not missed working out at the gym!

I'm constantly trying to improve my diet too. Lately, I have been cutting back on evening meals so I'll wake up hungry the next day. It's been surprisingly difficult to accomplish. Also, I tried some supplements designed to help you purge or cleanse. I thought it was a waste of time and money. I didn't notice any difference at all.
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Post by: Kelda on May 20, 2011, 02:28:39 pm
Well that's me at the halfway point now. 2st/28lbs down, 2 stone/28lbs to go. I now weigh 14 stone/196lbs.
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Post by: Kelda on June 18, 2011, 12:11:59 pm
Well I put 5lbs on during my holiday. So I'm back to 23lbs lost. But that's okay - I expected to put some on on holiday - actually more than 5lb so I feel okay.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on June 20, 2011, 01:30:31 pm
As our friend Bruce would say, Good on you, Kelda!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on July 02, 2011, 09:25:00 am
Snacking, not portion size, largely driving U.S. overeating

By Anne Harding, Health.com   Wed, Jun 29, 2011

Over the past several decades Americans have steadily gotten fatter. Although our increasingly sedentary lifestyles are partly to blame, a big reason for our national weight gain is that we're simply eating more.
 
In the mid-2000s, government surveys show, the average American adult ate about 2,375 calories per day, nearly one-third more than he (or she) did in the late 1970s. What accounts for all those added calories?
 
According to a new study, the biggest single contributor to the sharp rise in calorie intake has been the number of snacks and meals people eat per day. Over the past 30-odd years, the study found, Americans have gone from consuming 3.8 snacks and meals per day to 4.9, on average—a 29 percent increase.
 
The average portion size has increased, too, but only by about 12 percent. And, surprisingly, the average number of calories per 1-gram serving of food (known as "energy density") actually declined slightly over that period, which suggests that calorie-rich food has played a relatively minor role in our expanding waistlines.

http://health.yahoo.net/articles/obesity/snacking-not-portion-size-largely-driving-us-overeating
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Post by: Andrew on July 02, 2011, 10:41:48 am
This sounds just about right to my experience.  All the more reason to find a snack substitute for times you know you would be better off not eating, like if you come home late and hungry.  That's when I get out the 5-minute Japanese miso soup or the herb tea. 

And in my experience, it's carbs, especially wheat and sugar, that make you hungry every few hours in the first place.  Two hours after I have either, I have both a ravenous cavernous hunger and a craving for more carbs which is almost as sweet as sugar itself. 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 18, 2011, 10:07:32 pm
Friends, I fell off the wagon recently. I went to Wyoming for four days and was sitting in a car for several hours. Then, people were treating me to breakfasts and dinners. I'm able to squeeze into my skinny jeans, but just barely. Need to shed those extra hot pounds immediately!! Any suggestions?
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Post by: serious crayons on July 18, 2011, 10:58:51 pm
Friends, I fell off the wagon recently. I went to Wyoming for four days and was sitting in a car for several hours. Then, people were treating me to breakfasts and dinners. I'm able to squeeze into my skinny jeans, but just barely. Need to shed those extra hot pounds immediately!! Any suggestions?

I once read that whenever Goldie Hawn finds that she has gained a few pounds, she cuts out all carbs until she loses it again. That makes sense to me. IMO, it's not good to cut carbs that much for a long period -- especially fruit, legumes and whole grains -- or if you're trying to lose a substantial amount of weight, but if you're just trying to quickly drop a few extra vacation lbs., it is a way to shed weight fast.

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Post by: Meryl on July 19, 2011, 12:46:15 am
I've been stalled for awhile, too, Lee.  But here's a little 3-day diet I've done numerous times, and it does result in a loss of 2-3 pounds.  My mom was given it years ago as a way to lose weight before surgery.

The Cleveland Clinic Diet

Day One
Breakfast of 2 tbsp. peanutbutter on 1 slice of toast, and 1/2 grapefruit
Lunch is 1 small can of tuna (packed in water) and 1 slice dry toast
Dinner is 3 oz. any type of meat, 1 cup green beans, 1 cup red beets, 1 small apple, 1/2 c. vanilla ice cream

Day Two
Breakfast of 1 egg, 1 slice dry toast, 1 small banana
Lunch is 1 cup cottage cheese and 5 saltine crackers
Dinner is 2 hot dogs, 1 cup broccoli, 1/2 cup carrots, 1 banana, 1/2 c. vanilla ice cream

Day Three
Breakfast is 1 slice cheddar cheese, 5 saltine crackers, 1 banana, 1 apple
Lunch is 1 egg and 1 slice dry toast
Dinner is 1 small can of tuna (packed in water), 1 cup red beets, 1 cup cauliflower, 1/2 c. canteloupe or mixed fruit, 1/2 c. vanilla ice cream

Salt and pepper okay, but no other seasonings or spices.  Black coffee and tea okay.  No substitutions.  Diet works on a chemical breakdown.  After 3 days, resume normal eating for at least 4 days.  Some have lost as much as 40 pounds a month on it.

Over the years, I've tried it with some substitutions, like chicken for the 3rd day tuna, and still lost weight.  I've even done everything except the last dinner, which is pretty strange IMO (as is the hot dog dinner) and still lost something.  I always drink some diet soda, too.  Maybe by following it exactly, you get better results, but it's still pretty effective.




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Post by: Lynne on July 19, 2011, 09:32:24 am
Here's a random update that I found interesting, even though I only participate here sporadically.

I don't actually own a scale - I check at the doctor's office once or twice a year.  And once in awhile on someone's random bathroom scale - mostly it annoys me because the bathroom scale shows every little plus or minus pound or two - very discouraging.

Well - last week I had my annual physical and since June 2010 (my heaviest ever), I've lost ~20 lbs.  This tells me that in the long run I am doing some things right and moving in the right direction.  Of course I wish it were 40 lbs, but I can also think of some small changes I can make that will help this if I can keep up the better habits over time.  My goal is perhaps to see 25 or 30 less this time next year.

And to give credit where credit is absolutely due, having a low carb dinner with Paul - frequently twice a week - has bound to have much to do with this success.
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Post by: serious crayons on July 19, 2011, 10:32:30 am
Well - last week I had my annual physical and since June 2010 (my heaviest ever), I've lost ~20 lbs.  This tells me that in the long run I am doing some things right and moving in the right direction.

So you're saying that fast or slow, you like the direction you're goin?

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Lynne on July 19, 2011, 10:49:16 am
So you're saying that fast or slow, you like the direction you're goin?

yup.

 ;)
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Post by: Kelda on July 19, 2011, 04:15:08 pm
So you're saying that fast or slow, you like the direction you're goin?



 :D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on July 20, 2011, 09:04:20 am
I've been stalled for awhile, too, Lee.  But here's a little 3-day diet I've done numerous times, and it does result in a loss of 2-3 pounds.  My mom was given it years ago as a way to lose weight before surgery.

The Cleveland Clinic Diet

Day One
Breakfast of 2 tbsp. peanutbutter on 1 slice of toast, and 1/2 grapefruit
Lunch is 1 small can of tuna (packed in water) and 1 slice dry toast
Dinner is 3 oz. any type of meat, 1 cup green beans, 1 cup red beets, 1 small apple, 1/2 c. vanilla ice cream

Day Two
Breakfast of 1 egg, 1 slice dry toast, 1 small banana
Lunch is 1 cup cottage cheese and 5 saltine crackers
Dinner is 2 hot dogs, 1 cup broccoli, 1/2 cup carrots, 1 banana, 1/2 c. vanilla ice cream

Day Three
Breakfast is 1 slice cheddar cheese, 5 saltine crackers, 1 banana, 1 apple
Lunch is 1 egg and 1 slice dry toast
Dinner is 1 small can of tuna (packed in water), 1 cup red beets, 1 cup cauliflower, 1/2 c. canteloupe or mixed fruit, 1/2 c. vanilla ice cream

Salt and pepper okay, but no other seasonings or spices.  Black coffee and tea okay.  No substitutions.  Diet works on a chemical breakdown.  After 3 days, resume normal eating for at least 4 days.  Some have lost as much as 40 pounds a month on it.

Over the years, I've tried it with some substitutions, like chicken for the 3rd day tuna, and still lost weight.  I've even done everything except the last dinner, which is pretty strange IMO (as is the hot dog dinner) and still lost something.  I always drink some diet soda, too.  Maybe by following it exactly, you get better results, but it's still pretty effective.

I'm tempted to try this just for the sheer novelty of it! And also that you took the time to write it all down. I assume adding water is okay, and that the vegetables should be steamed?? I'll go get the ingredients today!
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Post by: Meryl on July 20, 2011, 06:26:27 pm
I'm tempted to try this just for the sheer novelty of it! And also that you took the time to write it all down. I assume adding water is okay, and that the vegetables should be steamed?? I'll go get the ingredients today!

Cool!  Yes, water is okay, and no added oil or butter on the veggies.  Hope you get good results!  8)
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Post by: Meryl on July 23, 2011, 03:41:47 pm

 ;D  ;D  ;D

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXJl1fuFAKU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Post by: Front-Ranger on July 23, 2011, 05:10:26 pm
Hey, that walrus has some pretty good moves, especially the sit-ups!

I messed up on breakfast and lunch...I ate one egg, dry toast, and a grapefruit and then for lunch I had some cold soup and about 12 saltines. So, I'm starting over tomorrow! This is the first real diet I've ever attempted, and my discipline flies away whenever I look in the fridge!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on July 24, 2011, 11:37:48 am
The specific foods you eat influence your weight gain, according to a new study reported in the New York Times.

I can't help wondering if the study results are oversimplified, though. It says that, over time, people who eat more french fries, sugary drinks, etc., tend to gain more weight, while people who eat more fruits, vegetables, yogurt and nuts gain less or lose weight (this is after controlling for total calorie intake, so it would be 100 calories of french fries vs. 100 calories of nuts). But people who choose foods in the latter group tend to be more careful about their weight in general -- might that affect the results? The story isn't clear.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/health/19brody.html?src=me&ref=general (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/health/19brody.html?src=me&ref=general)

Still Counting Calories? Your Weight-Loss Plan May Be Outdated
By JANE E. BRODY


It’s no secret that Americans are fatter today than ever before, and not just those unlucky people who are genetically inclined to gain weight or have been overweight all their lives. Many who were lean as young adults have put on lots of unhealthy pounds as they pass into middle age and beyond.

It’s also no secret that the long-recommended advice to eat less and exercise more has done little to curb the inexorable rise in weight. No one likes to feel deprived or leave the table hungry, and the notion that one generally must eat less to control body weight really doesn’t cut it for the typical American.

So the newest findings on what specific foods people should eat less often — and more importantly, more often — to keep from gaining pounds as they age should be of great interest to tens of millions of Americans.

The new research, by five nutrition and public health experts at Harvard University, is by far the most detailed long-term analysis of the factors that influence weight gain, involving 120,877 well-educated men and women who were healthy and not obese at the start of the study. In addition to diet, it has important things to say about exercise, sleep, television watching, smoking and alcohol intake.

The study participants — nurses, doctors, dentists and veterinarians in the Nurses’ Health Study, Nurses’ Health Study II and the Health Professionals Follow-up Study — were followed for 12 to 20 years. Every two years, they completed very detailed questionnaires about their eating and other habits and current weight. The fascinating results were published in June in The New England Journal of Medicine.

The analysis examined how an array of factors influenced weight gain or loss during each four-year period of the study. The average participant gained 3.35 pounds every four years, for a total weight gain of 16.8 pounds in 20 years.

“This study shows that conventional wisdom — to eat everything in moderation, eat fewer calories and avoid fatty foods — isn’t the best approach,” Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, a cardiologist and epidemiologist at the Harvard School of Public Health and lead author of the study, said in an interview. “What you eat makes quite a difference. Just counting calories won’t matter much unless you look at the kinds of calories you’re eating.”

Dr. Frank B. Hu, a nutrition expert at the Harvard School of Public Health and a co-author of the new analysis, said: “In the past, too much emphasis has been put on single factors in the diet. But looking for a magic bullet hasn’t solved the problem of obesity.”

Also untrue, Dr. Mozaffarian said, is the food industry’s claim that there’s no such thing as a bad food.

“There are good foods and bad foods, and the advice should be to eat the good foods more and the bad foods less,” he said. “The notion that it’s O.K. to eat everything in moderation is just an excuse to eat whatever you want.”

The study showed that physical activity had the expected benefits for weight control. Those who exercised less over the course of the study tended to gain weight, while those who increased their activity didn’t. Those with the greatest increase in physical activity gained 1.76 fewer pounds than the rest of the participants within each four-year period.

But the researchers found that the kinds of foods people ate had a larger effect over all than changes in physical activity.

“Both physical activity and diet are important to weight control, but if you are fairly active and ignore diet, you can still gain weight,” said Dr. Walter Willett, chairman of the nutrition department at the Harvard School of Public Health and a co-author of the study.

As Dr. Mozaffarian observed, “Physical activity in the United States is poor, but diet is even worse.”

Little Things Mean a Lot

People don’t become overweight overnight.

Rather, the pounds creep up slowly, often unnoticed, until one day nothing in the closet fits the way it used to.

Even more important than its effect on looks and wardrobe, this gradual weight gain harms health. At least six prior studies have found that rising weight increases the risk in women of heart disease, diabetes, stroke and breast cancer, and the risk in men of heart disease, diabetes and colon cancer.

The beauty of the new study is its ability to show, based on real-life experience, how small changes in eating, exercise and other habits can result in large changes in body weight over the years.

On average, study participants gained a pound a year, which added up to 20 pounds in 20 years. Some gained much more, about four pounds a year, while a few managed to stay the same or even lose weight.

Participants who were overweight at the study’s start tended to gain the most weight, which seriously raised their risk of obesity-related diseases, Dr. Hu said. “People who are already overweight have to be particularly careful about what they eat,” he said.

The foods that contributed to the greatest weight gain were not surprising. French fries led the list: Increased consumption of this food alone was linked to an average weight gain of 3.4 pounds in each four-year period. Other important contributors were potato chips (1.7 pounds), sugar-sweetened drinks (1 pound), red meats and processed meats (0.95 and 0.93 pound, respectively), other forms of potatoes (0.57 pound), sweets and desserts (0.41 pound), refined grains (0.39 pound), other fried foods (0.32 pound), 100-percent fruit juice (0.31 pound) and butter (0.3 pound).

Also not too surprising were most of the foods that resulted in weight loss or no gain when consumed in greater amounts during the study: fruits, vegetables and whole grains. Compared with those who gained the most weight, participants in the Nurses’ Health Study who lost weight consumed 3.1 more servings of vegetables each day.

But contrary to what many people believe, an increased intake of dairy products, whether low-fat (milk) or full-fat (milk and cheese), had a neutral effect on weight.

And despite conventional advice to eat less fat, weight loss was greatest among people who ate more yogurt and nuts, including peanut butter, over each four-year period.

Nuts are high in vegetable fat, and previous small studies have shown that eating peanut butter can help people lose weight and keep it off, probably because it slows the return of hunger.

That yogurt, among all foods, was most strongly linked to weight loss was the study’s most surprising dietary finding, the researchers said. Participants who ate more yogurt lost an average of 0.82 pound every four years.

Yogurt contains healthful bacteria that in animal studies increase production of intestinal hormones that enhance satiety and decrease hunger, Dr. Hu said. The bacteria may also raise the body’s metabolic rate, making weight control easier.

But, consistent with the new study’s findings, metabolism takes a hit from refined carbohydrates — sugars and starches stripped of their fiber, like white flour. When Dr. David Ludwig of Children’s Hospital Boston compared the effects of refined carbohydrates with the effects of whole grains in both animals and people, he found that metabolism, which determines how many calories are used at rest, slowed with the consumption of refined grains but stayed the same after consumption of whole grains.

Other Influences

As has been suggested by previous smaller studies, how long people slept each night influenced their weight changes. In general, people who slept less than six hours or more than eight hours a night tended to gain the most. Among possible explanations are effects of short nights on satiety hormones, as well as an opportunity to eat more while awake, Dr. Hu said.

He was not surprised by the finding that the more television people watched, the more weight they gained, most likely because they are influenced by a barrage of food ads and snack in front of the TV.

Alcohol intake had an interesting relationship to weight changes. No significant effect was found among those who increased their intake to one glass of wine a day, but increases in other forms of alcohol were likely to bring added pounds.

As expected, changes in smoking habits also influenced weight changes. Compared with people who never smoked, those who had quit smoking within the previous four years gained an average of 5.17 pounds. Subsequent weight gain was minimal — 0.14 pound for each four-year period.

Those who continued smoking lost 0.7 pound in each four-year period, which the researchers surmised may have resulted from undiagnosed underlying disease, especially since those who took up smoking experienced no change in weight.


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Post by: Andrew on July 24, 2011, 02:32:38 pm
The specific foods you eat influence your weight gain, according to a new study reported in the New York Times.

I can't help wondering if the study results are oversimplified, though. It says that, over time, people who eat more french fries, sugary drinks, etc., tend to gain more weight, while people who eat more fruits, vegetables, yogurt and nuts gain less or lose weight (this is after controlling for total calorie intake, so it would be 100 calories of french fries vs. 100 calories of nuts). But people who choose foods in the latter group tend to be more careful about their weight in general -- might that affect the results? The story isn't clear.

Yes, the next step iwould be more thorough studies of foods that promote an early return of hunger, or promote craving, and foods that delay the return of hunger.  And thorough studies that determine whether the body turns more of some foods into fat than others with the same calorie count.  I have certainly seen both of those things in practice with my own body/mind, but science is a different story and some people seem to need a huge study before all their mental resistance is over.  Observational studies are much easier to do, but controlled studies where people's diet is strictly set and followed over a year will make some of these theories finally incontrovertible.  Enough of the flimflammy studies of twenty-five people which hit the local news because they contradict the more serious studies!

The rest is will power - learning to take pleasure in achieving something you set out to do.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: SFEnnisSF on July 31, 2011, 02:43:13 pm
Mike & I have been on a healthy eating diet and good exercise plan.  I've lost 10 pounds in about 1 month.  Loving it.  ;D
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Post by: Meryl on July 31, 2011, 03:28:48 pm
Mike & I have been on a healthy eating diet and good exercise plan.  I've lost 10 pounds in about 1 month.  Loving it.  ;D

Excellent news, Eric. Congrats!  8)
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Post by: Kelda on July 31, 2011, 04:21:38 pm
Mike & I have been on a healthy eating diet and good exercise plan.  I've lost 10 pounds in about 1 month.  Loving it.  ;D

Wow, great news!
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Post by: Sason on August 02, 2011, 12:37:14 am
Way to go, Eric, and congrats!!
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Post by: CellarDweller on August 11, 2011, 09:47:33 am
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focusing back on my diet, and in the past few days, have lost 5 pounds.  ;D
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Post by: Meryl on August 11, 2011, 11:14:18 am
Excellent, Chuck!  I need some inspiration to get back on track.  :P
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Post by: Kelda on August 11, 2011, 05:28:25 pm
Well done Chuck!


I'm currently 13stone 13. So thats 29lb lost since Jan 10th
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 12, 2011, 02:42:43 pm
Wow, that's terrific, Kelda! I haven't weighed myself lately, I'm just going by how my skinny jeans fit. They fit just fine but I can tell there's still a pound or two extra on my frame that could be eliminated. However, lately I've been wondering if I should be eating more. It doesn't seem like I have the stamina that I need to do some of the things I want to do, like climb a fourteener while bearing a heavy backpack. I'm looking at adding more protein and whole grains to my diet, which means, sigh, I'll have to exercise more to avoid gaining weight! Fortunately, in the summer it's not hard to find ways to do that.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on September 21, 2011, 03:07:23 pm
It's been a  good summer, fitness-wise, for me. Here are some of the things that have worked out for me:

Eating breakfast. I eat a healthy breakfast most days and it gives me more stamina throughout the day. I usually eat some kind of whole grain cereal with at least two fruits on top (usually banana and some berries) and 1% milk. Occasionally I will have 1 egg with some whole grain toast, a tomato slice, and sometimes a small slice of ham. Also sometimes I have a full Irish breakfast, with vegetables and hash brown potatoes. If I have to skip breakfast, I eat a granola bar.

Lighter dinners: I usually have an early dinner sometimes even around 4 pm if I've skipped lunch. It consists of a few ounces of chicken, fish, or red meat plus two or three vegetables such as sweet potatoes, squash, onions, eggplant, mushrooms or broccoli. Also I often have fruit such as broiled peaches in a spicy oriental sauce. Unless a whole grain is available, I just have a couple of bites of rice or pasta, and if I eat potatoes, I eat them with the skins. I try to avoid eating or drinking anything after 8 pm

Eating out: I try to limit this to once or twice a week, and I schedule extra workouts before or after.

Snacks: I have my favorite "cheating" foods and I've done a good job cutting back on them this summer, especially milk, which I used to put in my coffee, but no more, and raw almonds, which I try to limit to one handful a day. In the afternoons, if I have the urge to eat a snack, I have dinner instead. I keep my alcohol consumption to two small glasses of white wine per day and often I go without.

Exercise: I work out every day or every other day. Once a month, I schedule an all-day hike or other strenuous activity. I use my ipod when working out, and my workout data is sent to Nike+ where I can review it. I change my workout goals often and vary my workout for the best results.

Attitude: I fall off this regimen regularly, but I just pick myself up and get right back on! I hope some of these tips might help you.
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Post by: Lynne on November 06, 2011, 03:56:46 pm
I've had a pretty good summer too.

I saw my doctor on Friday (Finally got that Z-pack I've been practically begging for - and already feeling human again.  ::)  I played the Mom card, as in "If you don't fix me, she is going to catch this *again* and while I will just continue being miserable, she will die.")

But back to the topic - my weight is down another 5 lbs since I saw her in June...She read off the numbers and it's been a steady progression since June 2009, when I came back to Boston:  roughly 230-223-215-209-205-199.  Thirty-one lbs in a little over two years?  Sounds pretty good, and I like that big picture - I go a bit nuts looking at a scale every day.

I've not been doing too much differently - I walk quite a bit.  And eating with Paulie a few times a week is definitely healthy - for awhile there, we were off the carbs almost entirely.  I'd like to get back to that.  Otherwise, I'm still trying to find some way to commit to a schedule where exercise is a priority, but I don't seem to be able to keep any sort of schedule for very long.

 :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on November 06, 2011, 08:52:33 pm
Excellent news, friend! Keep it up!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 06, 2011, 09:56:11 pm
I'm starting to think about giving Weight Watchers a try after the holidays. Doesn't seem any point to trying to lose weight now with the holidays coming upon us like an armed assailant.

If I can do Weight Watchers on line and don't have to go to meetings, and learn their point system, I might be able to lose something.

I suppose it can't hurt to try.

At least my blood pressure is pretty good: 127/72 at my doctor's on Thursday of last week.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on November 08, 2011, 09:33:26 am
How timely, Jeff! I was just coming here to say that I started Weight Watchers. Again. Started two weeks ago and have lost over 6 pounds so far.

It's discouraging to have to keep doing it, but I realize that nothing else will really curtail my eating enough to lose weight. I usually eat pretty healthy stuff -- just too much of it. So my weight stays the same or even goes up.

Jeff, you can do WW online. Still, I would recommend going to meetings. There's something that really helps, at least for me, about the tacit (even semi-imaginary) accountability you have to the group and the leader, and the weekly weigh-ins and encouragement you get when things are going well. My goal is always to lose at least SOMETHING by the next weigh-in -- even half a pound -- rather than trying to lose 25 pounds by sometime in the distant future. I suppose it's a little like the AA "one day at a time" -- it's helpful to break a goal into manageable steps.

As for whether to wait until after the holidays, I would strongly recommend starting now, for several reasons. 1) It will limit the amount of weight you gain over the holidays, so you don't wind up with yet another 5 pounds to lose afterward. 2) It will keep you from slipping into that mentality of, "Oh well, I'm going to start Weight Watchers in January, so I might as well eat everything I want while I still can!" 3) It's not like you necessarily have to pig out every single day between now and New Year's -- WW lets you keep track of your food on the days when there are no festivities going on, but also gives you extra points to use on the days when you're at a party or dinner or whatever.

So like, on Thanksgiving, I'll still get to try everything at the dinner. But instead of, say, having a giant scoop of mashed potatoes and gravy and a huge slice of pie (as I would in my "Oh well, I'm joining WW in a month" mode), I'll have smaller helpings and keep track of them. Will I ever go over my points allowance? No doubt. But I won't go hog wild, so to speak. And I can make up for it on other days that week.

On Halloween, I stocked up on WW treats (2 points each) and ate about four or five of them. Did I go over my points for the day? Oh yes I did. Way over. But I only ate one real candy bar, even though I was passing out chocolate all night. (I can remember Halloweens in the past that have launched sickening three-day candy benders.) Then the next day, I went back to counting points and watching my food, and by the end of the week I had lost 3 pounds.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 08, 2011, 09:45:53 am
Thanks for that input, Katharine! And congrats on the six-pound loss!  :D

I really hope "to continue the discussion"--and ask a question or two that shouldn't require you to betray any Weight Watchers patented secrets--but I'm really supposed to be working now, so. ...
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 08, 2011, 05:04:04 pm
Jeff, you can do WW online. Still, I would recommend going to meetings. There's something that really helps, at least for me, about the tacit (even semi-imaginary) accountability you have to the group and the leader, and the weekly weigh-ins and encouragement you get when things are going well. My goal is always to lose at least SOMETHING by the next weigh-in -- even half a pound -- rather than trying to lose 25 pounds by sometime in the distant future. I suppose it's a little like the AA "one day at a time" -- it's helpful to break a goal into manageable steps.

I have a couple of concerns about meetings. For one thing, getting to them might be an issue for me, if attending a meeting would require a long or complicated trip on public transportation. Then, too, it seems my days are already too short, and most evenings once I get home I'm too tired to do much of anything. It's daunting to think about shoe-horning a WW meeting into days that are already not long enough. "Something" would have to "give," to make room for a WW meeing, and that "something" could well have to be something else valuable, like going to the gym. I'll admit, too, that I would not be comfortable if I turned out to be the only guy there--which would have been the case when they held WW here where I work. So being able to do it on line, at home, at my own convenience, certainly has its attractions--which is not meant in any way to disparage the good reasons you suggest for attending meetings.

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As for whether to wait until after the holidays, I would strongly recommend starting now, for several reasons. 1) It will limit the amount of weight you gain over the holidays, so you don't wind up with yet another 5 pounds to lose afterward. 2) It will keep you from slipping into that mentality of, "Oh well, I'm going to start Weight Watchers in January, so I might as well eat everything I want while I still can!" 3) It's not like you necessarily have to pig out every single day between now and New Year's -- WW lets you keep track of your food on the days when there are no festivities going on, but also gives you extra points to use on the days when you're at a party or dinner or whatever.

Of course, I already try to be careful about my eating now. But from Halloween through New Year's there are so many parties, and most of them I really can't get out of: I have three coworkers with birthdays between now and the end of the year (plus one has her 10-year anniversary of her employment); fortunately, we polished off those occasions for celebrating with one team luncheon today.

But then between Thanksgving and Christmas here at work there is the department holiday party, then the company-wide holiday party, then my team is having its own "goodie day," and people are always bringing unscheduled "treats" into the office, and then outside of work my leather club has its holiday party, and my medieval reenactment group has its annual Yule revel early in December, and friends want to get together to share a meal, and--oh, yes--there are the actual holiday dinners with the kinfolk. It's just too much!  :laugh:  And my supervisor is already planning a lunch to celebrate my 10-year anniversary just after New Years!  :laugh:

The idea of puttiing off trying WW till after the holidays is also somewhat based on my own history. For several years, after the holidays and into the early months of the new year, and including Lent,  ::)  I have managed to discipline myself and lose about five pounds. The trouble is that I can never seem to lose more than five pounds, and it all comes back when I do any traveling and can't maintain the fairly strict eating habits I ordinarily follow at home. (I gained another five pounds on my recent ramble to Boston and Provincetown, but I've managed to lose about three of those pounds since I've been home.)

Without knowing more about the WW program, my actual goal initially would be very modest, to lose ten pounds and get my BMI back out of the overweight range; fifteen pounds would be even better, but I'll settle for losing ten and keeping it off. But based on what I have been able to do over the past few years in the months after the holidays, I feel I have a better chance of meeting my goal if I wait until then, rather than try to start now.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on November 08, 2011, 05:34:35 pm
I have a couple of concerns about meetings. For one thing, getting to them might be an issue for me, if attending a meeting would require a long or complicated trip on public transportation. Then, too, it seems my days are already too short, and most evenings once I get home I'm too tired to do much of anything. It's daunting to think about shoe-horning a WW meeting into days that are already not long enough. "Something" would have to "give," to make room for a WW meeing, and that "something" could well have to be something else valuable, like going to the gym. I'll admit, too, that I would not be comfortable if I turned out to be the only guy there--which would have been the case when they held WW here where I work. So being able to do it on line, at home, at my own convenience, certainly has its attractions--which is not meant in any way to disparage the good reasons you suggest for attending meetings.

If you go to the Weight Watchers website and type in your zipcode, it will tell you the locations and times of all the meetings near you. In my case, there are dozens to chose from within 10 minutes of here, though admittedly they're easier to get to in a car. The meetings are only half an hour long. But if you'd have to give up going to the gym to get there, I can see where that would be counterproductive.

And yes, you might well be the only guy there. But most of the groups I have belonged to have had one guy, maybe a couple. They get no more or less attention than anyone else. (Though I did once see everyone in the room stare daggers at a guy who, when people were sharing their weight loss, said, "Well, I just joined on Saturday, so I've only lost 10 pounds so far ...")

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Of course, I already try to be careful about my eating now. But from Halloween through New Year's there are so many parties, and most of them I really can't get out of: I have three coworkers with birthdays between now and the end of the year (plus one has her 10-year anniversary of her employment); fortunately, we polished off those occasions for celebrating with one team luncheon today.

But then between Thanksgving and Christmas here at work there is the department holiday party, then the company-wide holiday party, then my team is having its own "goodie day," and people are always bringing unscheduled "treats" into the office, and then outside of work my leather club has its holiday party, and my medieval reenactment group has its annual Yule revel early in December, and friends want to get together to share a meal, and--oh, yes--there are the actual holiday dinners with the kinfolk. It's just too much!  :laugh:  And my supervisor is already planning a lunch to celebrate my 10-year anniversary just after New Years!  :laugh:

That is a lot. WW could help you keep your enjoyment of those "treats" etc. at a more manageable level without making you give them up entirely.

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The idea of puttiing off trying WW till after the holidays is also somewhat based on my own history. For several years, after the holidays and into the early months of the new year, and including Lent,  ::)  I have managed to discipline myself and lose about five pounds. The trouble is that I can never seem to lose more than five pounds, and it all comes back when I do any traveling and can't maintain the fairly strict eating habits I ordinarily follow at home. (I gained another five pounds on my recent ramble to Boston and Provincetown, but I've managed to lose about three of those pounds since I've been home.)

I used to think that way, too. I'd wait until the momentum got going in January, when everyone's in the mood to diet. But I wound up gaining even more weight over the holidays, because I'd keep thinking of them as my "last chance" to pig out, in addition to being the holidays.

Still, to each his/her own!  :)

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Without knowing more about the WW program, my actual goal initially would be very modest, to lose ten pounds and get my BMI back out of the overweight range; fifteen pounds would be even better, but I'll settle for losing ten and keeping it off. But based on what I have been able to do over the past few years in the months after the holidays, I feel I have a better chance of meeting my goal if I wait until then, rather than try to start now.

Weight Watchers lets you set your goal wherever you like within your (wide) range of healthy weight. Then they congratulate you when you lose 5%, 10%, every 5 lbs, and so on.

I sound like a commercial -- or a spammer!  :laugh:  Not saying it would work for everybody. And counting points is a pain. But the program is pretty reliable and effective if you follow it.

I SHOULD be making money for these posts.  :laugh:



Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 08, 2011, 08:26:25 pm
I sound like a commercial -- or a spammer!  :laugh:  Not saying it would work for everybody. And counting points is a pain. But the program is pretty reliable and effective if you follow it.

I SHOULD be making money for these posts.  :laugh:

Maybe you could write for them!  :D

Of course, I realized after I hit post the last time that I forgot to include all the Christmas gifts that are stuff to eat.  :-\

But I never consciously thought of the holiday season as an opportunity to pig out. It just sort of happened because of all the opportunities thrust at me to eat more than I ordinarily do.  :-\
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Post by: Front-Ranger on November 08, 2011, 11:01:20 pm
I'm sure Weight Watchers is great...I've never participated in it so I have no idea. But I have a modest proposal to insert here. The holidays ARE a minefield and sometimes you can't dodge imbibing too many drinks or treats. BUT, there is another solution, and it involves (sorry to bring this up, but it really works!) the E word. Steel yourself...it's called... exercise. No, I'm not talking about walking to work, or walking the dog or even walking around the block. I'm talking about working up a sweat and going flat out at your peak heart rate for as long as you can, and then resting, and then doing it again. It works! You may be sore, but if you keep at it, the soreness goes away within a couple of weeks. And, you can see results, while still eating about the same amount, or just making small changes. What's really great is that after exercising, you will find that you have actually LESS appetite for sugary fatty foods. Trust me...you will!!
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Post by: Kelda on November 09, 2011, 05:21:15 am
If you have an android or iphone Jeff, I'd definitely recommend the myfitnesspal app (also at www.myfitnesspal.com) Both the app and the website are free.

I've lost 35lbs since January just using that.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 12, 2011, 12:36:20 pm
For all my pissing and moaning about my weight, yesterday I ate like a normal person.

For breakfast I had one egg, fried hard; two turkey sausage patties; one serving of Quaker Instant Grits (with margarine and salt); one banana; two cups of coffee, with one teaspoon each of unrefined sugar and enough whole milk to lighten the coffee.

Lunch was an Italian hoagie (aka sub, grinder), one serving of pretzel nuggets, and one 12-oz can of Coke Classic.

Dinner was about a pint of Pennsylvania Dutch chicken pot pie (not a "pie," a chicken stew with egg noodles and potatoes); a large serving of fresh broccoli (I don't know how much it was by weight) with margarine and salt; one slice of bread with margarine; a large glass of water; and a slice of shoo-fly pie for dessert.

In the evening I had half a bottle (about 10 oz) of Caffeine-Free Diet Coke, one serving of pretzel nuggets for a snack, and one scotch and water.

This coming week will not be a good one for my "diet." I just had an e-mail from a friend who wants to get together for dinner because he has "personal issues" (apparently involving his job, his boyfriend, a future job opportunity for his boyfriend, and their future together) that he wants to talk about. But I also wanted to take in Immortals after work one evening this week (it's playing at a theater near where I work) and then have a burger and fries at Bobby's Burger Palace (also near both my office and the theater). I"d better check my budget as well as my waistline.  :-\
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Post by: Front-Ranger on November 12, 2011, 01:53:43 pm
Yes, I agree you ate like a normal person, Jeff.

Speaking of burgers, I was asked to make a food run by my friends yesterday at lunchtime since they were involved in an intense cement pouring project. They directed me to this place called Smashburger. The burgers there WERE delicious...I had one called the Colorado with some spicy unusual ingredients. I also tried the fries...sweet potato fries with a dusting of rosemary, pepper and salt. They were pretty good too. That place was so popular with a line going out the door! I still prefer Larkburger, which has a great ahi tuna burger with wasabi mustard...but you probably wouldn't even call it a burger!!

But I'm not advocating eating burgers for lunch! I ended up skipping dinner altogether, I was so stuffed. This even after pitching in and doing several hours of cement work myself!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 12, 2011, 03:13:16 pm
Smashburger sounds very interesting! I'll have to remember it for my next visit to Denver.  :)

The tuna burger sounds interesting, too.

Do you recall if they had a turkey burger on their menu?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 12, 2011, 07:38:08 pm
For all my pissing and moaning about my weight, yesterday I ate like a normal person.

For breakfast I had one egg, fried hard; two turkey sausage patties; one serving of Quaker Instant Grits (with margarine and salt); one banana; two cups of coffee, with one teaspoon each of unrefined sugar and enough whole milk to lighten the coffee.

Lunch was an Italian hoagie (aka sub, grinder), one serving of pretzel nuggets, and one 12-oz can of Coke Classic.

Dinner was about a pint of Pennsylvania Dutch chicken pot pie (not a "pie," a chicken stew with egg noodles and potatoes); a large serving of fresh broccoli (I don't know how much it was by weight) with margarine and salt; one slice of bread with margarine; a large glass of water; and a slice of shoo-fly pie for dessert.

In the evening I had half a bottle (about 10 oz) of Caffeine-Free Diet Coke, one serving of pretzel nuggets for a snack, and one scotch and water.

Ooops! I see I forgot to mention the Three Musketeers bar I had in the late afternoon.  ::)
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Post by: Front-Ranger on November 12, 2011, 08:16:45 pm
Haha, yes you ate like a normal person, who "forgets" the in-between stuff (I said I skipped dinner, but there was a point around 8 or 9 o'clock when I stuffed a handful of peanut butter pretzel pillows in my mouth).

It was wonderful to wake up thin this morning after yesterday's exertions. I had a good breakfast (grits with an egg on top) and skipped lunch. For dinner, we just unloaded all the leftovers that have built up over the week. There was roast beef and grilled chicken, rice, and zucchini, spinach and broccoli. I would have liked another veg or two and some fruit. I skipped the beef and rice, but it was great to see so many munchies all laid out!

I checked the Smashburger site. They are all over, in various states, but their menus vary by state. In Colorado they have no turkey burgers, but several different versions of chicken burgers.

In about two weeks, you'll be able to get turkey burgers chez Lee! We have a humongous bird in our freezer and we'll gonna start the thawing on the 18th and the brining on the 22nd.
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Post by: serious crayons on November 13, 2011, 11:18:14 am
Here's the map, Jeff.

http://www.smashburger.com/locations.php (http://www.smashburger.com/locations.php)

None in Philadelphia, but you might be in one of the other cities before you get to Denver. I see there are several near me.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 13, 2011, 04:11:19 pm
Here's the map, Jeff.

http://www.smashburger.com/locations.php (http://www.smashburger.com/locations.php)

None in Philadelphia, but you might be in one of the other cities before you get to Denver. I see there are several near me.

Thanks. This morning via text message I got an invitation to mix concrete for eight hours and then go to Smashburger.  ;D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on November 13, 2011, 07:08:40 pm
Thanks. This morning via text message I got an invitation to mix concrete for eight hours and then go to Smashburger.  ;D

Oh, I have a feeling my days as Chuck's "mud bitch" are numbered!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 13, 2011, 07:43:50 pm
Oh, I have a feeling my days as Chuck's "mud bitch" are numbered!

 :laugh:
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on November 30, 2011, 10:24:50 am




Now here's a real  pie chart!


http://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/diet-tips/what-200-calories-your-favorite-pies-looks


What 200 Calories of Your Favorite Pies Looks Like
By Karen Borsari



(http://www.shape.com/sites/shape.com/files/u52/pie_chart_nov_2011_v5_hq2.jpg)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 30, 2011, 10:38:22 am
Looks like blueberry might be your best bet if you want to try to maximize the size of the slice and minimize the calories and fat. Plus, aren't blueberries full of antioxidants, er sumpin'?
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Post by: Aloysius J. Gleek on November 30, 2011, 11:55:55 am



Looks like blueberry might be your best bet if you want to try to maximize the size of the slice and minimize the calories and fat. Plus, aren't blueberries full of antioxidants, er sumpin'?


Yeah, especially  when you put a dollop of whipped cream on top!

 ;D

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Post by: Front-Ranger on January 02, 2012, 12:15:34 pm
Anybody have fitness related New Years Resolutions for 2012? Mine is to continue the momentum I gained in 2011 with the help of this thread!
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Post by: Kelda on January 02, 2012, 01:38:47 pm
heh, I think I'm a lost cause for at least part of 2012!
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Post by: CellarDweller on January 02, 2012, 02:00:28 pm
Plus, aren't blueberries full of antioxidants, er sumpin'?

So is dark chocolate.  Eat up!  LOL
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 05, 2012, 09:35:58 am
Pescatarian diet and exercise seems to be working.  12 days since Ash Wednesday, I've lost 9 pounds.

;D


(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)
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Post by: Sason on March 05, 2012, 11:11:52 am
Go, Chuck!!   :D
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Post by: CellarDweller on April 03, 2012, 08:13:30 am

Here's an update......



(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
 (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

I'm back down to 233 pounds (12 pound loss).  I'd like to lose three more by Sunday, that was my goal, to lose 15 pounds between Ash Wednesday & Easter.  I hope I can do it, but if not, I'm happy that I've lost 12 pounds.  I'm going to push this week for that goal, but not too hard, I don't want to do something stupid.
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Post by: CellarDweller on April 08, 2012, 10:45:35 am


(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png) (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

I hit my first weight loss goal!  15 pounds during Lent.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2012, 09:06:33 pm

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png) (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

I hit my first weight loss goal!  15 pounds during Lent.

Congratulations!  :D

After the Easter feed we had today, I don't even want to get on the scale tomorrow morning.  :-\
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Post by: CellarDweller on April 08, 2012, 09:34:38 pm
Congratulations!  :D

After the Easter feed we had today, I don't even want to get on the scale tomorrow morning.  :-\

Darlin', I'm avoiding the scale for the next week!  LOL   :laugh:

However, I've set a new goal for myself.  I lost that 15 pounds in the 46 days of Lent, I want to see if I can lose 20 pounds in the next 53 days, so I'd be 210 pounds by the Boston Brokie Bash & AIDS Walk.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 16, 2012, 09:27:39 am
Well, it didn't take long.  :-\

Yesterday was the Second Sunday of Easter. According to my scale this morning, I've gained back all the weight I lost during Lent.  :-\  :(
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Post by: SFEnnisSF on April 28, 2012, 01:54:48 am
Be careful, friend! Because low fat, sugar-free stuff does NOT equal low calorie or healthy always. Take, for instance, sugar free soda. I'm convinced there is hardly anything worse you can put in your body than that...it leaves you craving bad stuff and gets your system all out of whack. Plus, those imitation butter spreads like margarine. Stay away from those, far away!! What goes on my bread (what little I eat) is pure olive oil, with a little balsamic vinegar and za'tar spice added. That, or dijon mustard (the kind that has no mayo or sugar in it). As a general rule, I advise everyone to avoid processed foods, ennithing in the frozen aisles (except frozen fruits and vegetables), prepared foods, juices, drinks in bottles, and ennithing Starbucks!! (except straight black coffee). Instead of juice, have a piece of fruit. Instead of pizza or frozen dinners, have a salad that you make yourself. Instead of bread, cook up some wheat berries, barley, brown rice, or bulgar. And so on.


I've been doing some research on foods and weight loss (and weight gain), and everything Lee says here seems to sum it all up perfectly.   Although I do love Starbuck's Iced Green Teas...Unsweetend of course!
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Post by: SFEnnisSF on April 28, 2012, 02:00:24 am
Apparently, this is roasted buckwheat. It is also a grain, as is amaranth, barley, bulgar, couscous, kamut, millet, oats, corn, quinoa, rye, spelt, teff, triticale, and wheat.

Aside from the wheat berries, I like cracked wheat, barley, bulgar, and couscous. There is hardly ennithing better than pearl barley which makes a wonderful pilaf, breakfast cereal, or soup. I prefer cracked wheat to bulgar for making tabbouli, a wonderful dish with chopped parsley, tomato, mint, garlic, scallions, olive oil and lemon. Another wonderful grain dish is grits or, if you prefer, polenta. It's great for breakfast with a poached egg. Contrary to popular thought, these whole grains do not always need to be cooked for a long time. Pearl barley and millet should be cooked 35 minutes, kasha and bulgar for 20 minutes, cracked wheat for 25 minutes. Couscous is pre-cooked so only needs 7 minutes. Wheat berries require 50 minutes if soaked overnight. To add flavor you can soak grains in broth or fruit juice and add your favorite herbs and spices, including Old Bay Seasoning, saffron, za'tar, or onion/garlic seasoning.

Bump to find later...
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Post by: Front-Ranger on May 31, 2012, 09:38:11 pm
After five weeks of trekking in Nepal, I went to my closet, pulled out a pair of jeans that I haven't been able to wear for at least 15 years and put them on. They are not even tight on me! I got a LOT of exercise in Nepal. It was up a mountain and down the other side all day long. IT was mostly high altitude walking, and I climbed up to a height of 17,600 feet at the highest point. What's more, the altitude made me lose my appetite. I was quite hungry when I got to a teahouse and the food was quite good, but after a few bites I had trouble eating any more. Most evenings, I just had a bowl of soup for dinner. I could not eat rice, potatoes, pasta, or bread. They almost made me gag. But I did get enough nourishment to keep my energy levels up.

I definitely recommend trekking in Nepal if you want to be in the best shape of your life. But, it's like childbirth: you suffer a lot, but when it's over, you remember it as the best thing that ever happened to you.
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Post by: ifyoucantfixit on June 01, 2012, 06:37:08 pm


   I am very happy for you to have been able to fulfill this particular thing on your list.  I am even more happy that you loved it so.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on June 01, 2012, 09:35:42 pm
Thank you, friend!
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Post by: SFEnnisSF on June 10, 2012, 11:41:51 am
Awesome Lee!
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Post by: Front-Ranger on October 03, 2012, 07:17:08 pm
Friends, I'm back to my fall regimen which is described below. I hope to be fit this winter because I've joined an ice climbing group and I want to be able to participate. Do you have any ideas about good fall fitness regimens?

Eating breakfast. I eat a healthy breakfast most days and it gives me more stamina throughout the day. I usually eat some kind of whole grain cereal with at least two fruits on top (usually banana and some berries) and 1% milk. Occasionally I will have 1 egg with some whole grain toast, a tomato slice, and sometimes a small slice of ham. Also sometimes I have a full Irish breakfast, with vegetables and hash brown potatoes. If I have to skip breakfast, I eat a granola bar.

Lighter dinners: I usually have an early dinner sometimes even around 4 pm if I've skipped lunch. It consists of a few ounces of chicken, fish, or red meat plus two or three vegetables such as sweet potatoes, squash, onions, eggplant, mushrooms or broccoli. Also I often have fruit such as broiled peaches in a spicy oriental sauce. Unless a whole grain is available, I just have a couple of bites of rice or pasta, and if I eat potatoes, I eat them with the skins. I try to avoid eating or drinking anything after 8 pm

Eating out: I try to limit this to once or twice a week, and I schedule extra workouts before or after.

Snacks: I have my favorite "cheating" foods and I've done a good job cutting back on them this summer, especially milk, which I used to put in my coffee, but no more, and raw almonds, which I try to limit to one handful a day. In the afternoons, if I have the urge to eat a snack, I have dinner instead. I keep my alcohol consumption to two small glasses of white wine per day and often I go without.

Exercise: I work out every day or every other day after work and before dinner. Once a month, I schedule an all-day hike or other strenuous activity. I use my ipod when working out, and my workout data is sent to Nike+ where I can review it. I change my workout goals often and vary my workout for the best results.

Attitude: I fall off this regimen regularly, but I just pick myself up and get right back on! I hope some of these tips might help you.
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Post by: Sason on October 04, 2012, 02:33:20 pm
I've lost almost 5 kg since I came home from Boston in June.

A far cry from what I need to lose, but it's a good start.

But the longer you go, the harder it gets. So we'll see.
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Post by: Front-Ranger on October 05, 2012, 12:06:33 am
A journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step...

Good for you, Sonja! Let us know your secrets!
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Post by: Sason on October 05, 2012, 05:13:44 pm
There are no secrets, just common sense.

Cut down on the sweet and fatty stuff.
Lots (and I mean lots) of fruit and veggies, so that I can still eat big portions but with less calories in them.

That's all. But it takes time, and you have to be patient and persistent.


(and it's Sonja, btw)
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Post by: RouxB on October 08, 2012, 03:20:45 am
Being broke has its upside-I have lost about 15 pounds in the last 6 weeks or so (The Otter Pop diet). Lost all the sitting-around-depressed-and-moping-over-bad-job-then-no-job weight. Now I have 6 years of other-crap weight to loose. I want to get back to where I was when I met Ennis and Jack-before I met the Brokies, before my daddy got sick
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Post by: Sason on October 08, 2012, 02:22:38 pm
Congrats on the -15 pounds, Roux!! That's impressive in only 6 weeks!

I wish I knew how to get back to my pre BBM weight....

I've set my goal a little higher, probably more realisic.
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Post by: RouxB on October 09, 2012, 04:23:38 pm
Budget demands that I not eat out and not spend money on junky food. Then it became a challenge to see how long I could go without grocery shopping and just eat from all the random food in my cupboards and refrigerator. It's amazing what you can concoct from your pantry!
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Post by: Sason on October 09, 2012, 04:56:48 pm
Sounds like I could use some of that challenge.

I would have to buy fresh veggies though, that's how I keep my calorie intake down.
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Post by: Luvlylittlewing on October 09, 2012, 06:48:21 pm
The knot in my stomach from all the trauma and drama in my life has caused me to drop more than 20 pounds.  I still feel like crap, but the storm seems to be passing over, and I'm looking hot!  I guess there is something to be thankful about no matter what the situation.  :o
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 11, 2012, 01:27:17 pm
I was reminded today by the fact that I feel hungry enough to eat a horse, tack and all, that this is the season when my body begins to crave carbs.  :(
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Post by: Front-Ranger on October 11, 2012, 05:45:49 pm
a horse...or a camel?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 11, 2012, 10:13:45 pm
a horse...or a camel?

Just a horse. I ain't no coyote.  ;D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on December 20, 2012, 07:25:28 pm
I have developed a training regimen that is working well for me and wanted to share it in case any of the elements work for others. I'm focusing mostly on working out in a gym because, by using the same machines and having my ipod electronically send my workouts to Nike+ it's easy to see my progress.

I do a cardio and weight training regimen two or three times during the work week with another workout sometime on the weekend. On the days that I'm going to work out, I eat a late breakfast and a mid afternoon snack instead of breakfast, lunch and dinner. That way, by 5 pm when I get off work I am neither too hungry nor too full to work out. I drive home, change into my workout clothes and walk to the gym, even though it is pitch dark by 5 pm. If my favorite cardio machine is available I jump on it first and have a nice workout. My goals are to break a sweat and get my heart rate up to 150 or so. I don't have any hard and fast calorie or time goals, but generally I try to lengthen my workout over time and vary it so I won't get bored.

I also do what's called the "weight circuit". This involves going to each of the machines for weight and spot training and spending a little time on each. This works out all the various muscle groups without straining anything and minimizes boredom. After that, I finish up with my favorites...the inclined bench and the Roman Chair. Both are designed to rebalance the spine, work out the core, and unkink the back. By the time I finish all these things it is about 7 pm. I stroll back up the hill to my home, enjoy a light dinner and a glass of wine. It feels great and I sleep very well after these workouts. Hopefully, I'll be ready for ice climbing once the season gets going in January!!

What's your winter workout regimen?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 08, 2013, 10:17:58 am
Earlier this week I was pleased to notice that I seemed to have dropped a couple of pounds--unless, of course, my scale has broken.  :laugh:  Gave me hope that I might be able to drop a few more, after Fat Tuesday, when I get stricter about my intake. This morning my weight seemed to be back up a bit, perhaps reflecting a larger intake of carbs yesterday than previously in this week.  :-\

I guess carbs are my enemy.  :(

On the other hand, Jesus said to love your enemies. ...  ;D
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Post by: CellarDweller on February 14, 2013, 09:25:00 am
Yup, I've let myself become a statistic, lose weight to gain it all back.

Well, I haven't gained it all back, that's a small consolation.  I'd be horrified if I had hit 300 pounds again.  That being said, I'm upset that I've let myself t back to 262 pounds.  That's the heaviest I've been in a long time.

A group of us have decided for Lent to do a "Biggest Loser" challenge, and put in $10.00 a piece.  On the Monday after Easter, we'll weigh in and see who has lost the biggest percentage of their body weight.  First weigh in was yesterday morning.  I have an extra incentive, as one of the people I work for has offered to pay me $1.00 for each pound I lose during Lent.

Everyone is doing their own diet/exercise routine, we're not reporting in for that, just the first and last weigh in.  I've opted to do the "SlimFast" diet.....a shake for breakfast, a shake for lunch, and then a sensible dinner, light snacks in between.  Of course, if I knew what was sensible I wouldn't be back up to 262.

 ::) ::) ::)

Yesterday was the first day on the diet, and I was pretty surprised that I wasn't hungry all day long.  I also exercised twice yesterday, and today will be between 3 - 4 times. 

According to my scale at home, as well as the one here on the job we all weighed in on, I've lost 5 pounds.


(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png)
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Post by: CellarDweller on February 15, 2013, 08:53:30 am
scale today says I lost two more pounds.

I'm headed in the right direction.

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png) (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)


No updates until Tuesday, I try to weigh myself every day, and I'm not up at 5am Sat or Sun, and Monday is a holiday.  Next time on the scale will be Tuesday.

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Post by: Sason on February 15, 2013, 05:47:31 pm

Good luck with the weight loss, Chuck!   :-*



Although I have to say, in the long run I think a slower rate is more likely to keep the loss. (don't know how that came out grammatically, but you know what I mean)

However much we (us roly-polies) wish for a quick fix, the only lasting solution is a permanent change of life style.



I've lost about 8 kg (about 17-18 pounds) since last summer. It's not a lot, I know, but I prefer the slower rate and hope it will last.
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Post by: CellarDweller on February 16, 2013, 09:26:44 pm
You are correct Sonja, a slower rate is better.  I usually don't "race" for weight loss.

however..... :laugh:

With this contest, we're not doing a "pound count" for the winner, it's a percentage of body weight lost.

Example, let's say my supervisor loses 15 pounds in 40 days.  Very doable.  However, that could be 10% of her body weight.

For me to match that, I'd have to lose 26 pounds in 40 days.  Not quite so doable. 

to be honest, i don't believe I'll win the competition, but I'm going in with the attitude that I will.  It will push me to stay on track, and that's to my benefit.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on February 17, 2013, 09:08:59 am
Yeah, staying on track is the really hard part, imo.

In the start, it's pretty easy to lose weight, but it gets harder and harder along the way.

That's when you'll REALLY need your determination and endurance.

Good luck with it, Chuck!


As a matter of fact, I've lost about 9 kg, not 8. That is actually just about 10 % of my start weight. But it took me about 8 months.
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Post by: CellarDweller on February 19, 2013, 07:04:21 am

scale today says I lost two more pounds.

Since last Wednesday, I've lost 9 pounds.

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png) (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)


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Post by: CellarDweller on February 20, 2013, 12:01:50 pm
scale today says I lost two more pounds.

Since last Wednesday (8 days ago), I've lost 11 pounds.

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png) (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2013, 02:19:01 pm
Good grief! How does one lose 11 pounds in only eight days?  :o

Congratulations, Honey!  :D
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 02, 2013, 09:42:28 pm
Good grief! How does one lose 11 pounds in only eight days?  :o

Congratulations, Honey!  :D

Thanks!  Really watching my eating and working out.

LOL

I didn't weigh myself last week until Friday.  Sunday was the Oscars and I was at a party.  Monday I ran around getting chores done and didn't exercise, and Tuesday was cupcakes at bowling to celebrate all the February birthdays.  I knew I gained, and didn't want to discourage myself.

I worked out Wednesday and Thursday, and weighed myself on Friday.  I was still 251, so I was back down to my last "check in weight"......i've worked out Friday and Saturday and really watched  my eating.  I also plan on doing the same for Sunday, so I'm sure I'll have lost more weight on Monday when I weigh in.
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 04, 2013, 06:32:11 am
I lost another pound this weekend.

(http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/t/wGGHcse/weight.png) (http://www.TickerFactory.com/weight-loss/wGGHcse/)

I've lost a total of 12 pounds since Ash Wednesday.  Today is the 20th day of Lent, so today marks the half-way point.  If I get on the scale tomorrow and have lost another pound, that means in the past twenty days, I've lost 5 percent of my body weight.  If I can continue like this,  it's possible to lose 10% by Easter Monday.

(not counting Sundays.....if you count Sundays there are actually 47 days in Lent.....so does that mean Jesus took Sundays off His fast? :laugh: )
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 05, 2013, 09:29:01 am
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I lost one more pound, so I've reached the 240s, and as of this morning, I've lost 5% of my body weight.

 ;D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 05, 2013, 11:26:15 am
Go, Chuck, go!
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Post by: serious crayons on March 07, 2013, 12:29:37 pm
I've been resisting posting on this thread, because once I get started I could go on and on. So I'll try to keep it brief.

The week of Thanksgiving (with the exception of the actual holiday), I started a very low-carb diet. Absolutely no sugar, no wheat (whole or otherwise) or other grains, no potatoes, no fruit except for berries.

At around the same time, I read journalist Gary Taubes' Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It (http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1362670765&sr=1-1&keywords=gary+taubes) and found it extremely convincing. It's not a "diet book" in the sense of pitching a specific food plan, with meal suggestions and whatnot. It's a journalistic look (Taubes often writes for the NYT) at the years' of research showing that reducing carbs, which until the 1970s was widely understood to be the best/only way to lose weight, became discredited in favor of the now-prevailing low-fat, calories in/calories out approach, which for various reasons, mostly politics in the medical community, became the mainstream medical position. But in fact, sweets and starches cause bursts of insulin that signal the body to store calories as fat. Stop eating them, your insulin stabilizes, and your body will burn that fat.

He very lays out arguments and presents research linking high-carb and low-fat diets to a lot of medical conditions, including heart disease, cancer, etc. The science gets a little technical, so don't ask me to summarize it all here, but let's just say he has me completely convinced, and at my job I get inundated with diet books and diet press releases and the flaky ones are pretty easy to spot. But Taubes' arguments make logical sense as well. For example, insulin tends to cause fat storage in the stomach -- probably not coincidentally, people with large waistlines relative to hips are more prone to health problems like heart disease and cancer.

I recently read in the newspaper about research in which people who ate a lot of carbs were found to be four times likelier to get Alzheimer's. The finding surprised even the researchers, they said. But it wouldn't surprise Taubes, because Alzheimer's causes are widely linked to cardio problems (I write about Alzheimer's a lot).

So getting back to me: I lost 20 pounds very quickly, at a rate of about two pounds a week. Since then, my weight loss has slowed down to more like a pound a week (I'd like to lose another 12 or so). Fast or slow, I like the direction it's going.

It was tough at the very beginning, but once I adjusted it may be the easiest diet I've ever followed. I literally never have to feel hungry. It's true what they say about carbs -- they create cravings for more carbs, leading to snacking and overeating. Once you stop consuming carbs, you don't really care about them. My sons have cookies and candy around and they don't really tempt me (which they used to). I don't count calories. If I feel like eating, I eat. It has to be something low-carb -- but that includes lots of previously "forbidden" foods like high-fat cheeses, nuts, even butter.

Meal planning is more challenging, especially if you're used to building meals in the Jane Brody way: around pasta, rice, bread, potatoes. But ordering in restaurants is much, much easier: I just pick fish or meat with a salad or a vegetable. It can be as fatty as it wants to be! And it's much easier to tell whether your food contains rice or potatoes than it is to tell, say, how much oil the chef put in your stirfry. And you don't have to worry about how many calories are in it. (Though for a while I did count calories -- i was using the online My Fitness Plan thing -- and I saw that my daily calorie count with a low-carb diet was about the same as the recommended count following MFP's low-cal/low-fat approach. When you cut out carbs, you autmatically drop a big source of calories.)

Most surprising, and encouraging, are the improvements in my mood, energy, mental clarity. Even my lower backaches, which used to plague me constantly, have markedly diminished. These sorts of anecdotes are common among people who adopt low-carb diets, I discovered after doing a fair amount of web research.

Oh, and I haven't been exercising. Not on purpose -- though part of Taubes' argument is that exercise just makes you eat more. My previous main exercise was walking my dog, but I've been lazy because it's winter and I don't like being cold and I don't belong to a gym. The poor dog is getting chubby. But my son has been pressuring me to join Snap Fitness, so I'm probably going to do that, and then if I go a certain number of times each week I can get an insurance discount. And I do think moderate exercise is essential for good health. But not necessarily for weight loss.

I could go on and on. My main point is that I am utterly convinced that low-carb diets, hardly the flaky fad they've been assumed for the past 10 years or so (by myself included!), are seriously the best way to lose weight and be healthy.






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Post by: Meryl on March 07, 2013, 12:49:02 pm
Thanks for that, Katherine!  I know that's what I have to do.  Now, doing it's going to be a bit of a bitch... :P
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 07, 2013, 12:56:24 pm
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I lost one more pound.
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Post by: serious crayons on March 07, 2013, 01:15:13 pm
Thanks for that, Katherine!  I know that's what I have to do.  Now, doing it's going to be a bit of a bitch... :P

I strongly encourage reading Taubes' book. It's enlightening, and much more of a page-turner than you'd think. (Easier still, do a search for his stories in the NYT, if you haven't already read them.)

And know that it's a bitch for about a week, then becomes much easier than you'd think. The vigor you feel is a big motivator. Seriously, I all of a sudden felt like I'd gotten younger.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2013, 01:30:13 pm
Any idea how Taubes' ideas compare to Atkins?
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 07, 2013, 02:26:31 pm
Thanks for your insightful post, Katharine, and congrats, K and Chuck! I am so thrilled to hear about my friends getting healthy.

I follow much the same diet, K, although I do eat whole grains and fruit. I wonder, what do you eat for breakfast? That seems to me to be the most problematic meal of the day.

Exercising doesn't make me want to eat more. You would think it would make you hungry but for some reason it doesn't have that effect on me. In fact, sometimes after exercising I just feel like skipping dinner altogether. I'm told that exercising releases "feel good" endorphins in your brain similar to those you get when you eat a satisfying meal.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2013, 03:30:41 pm
Thanks for your insightful post, Katharine, and congrats, K and Chuck! I am so thrilled to hear about my friends getting healthy.

I follow much the same diet, K, although I do eat whole grains and fruit. I wonder, what do you eat for breakfast? That seems to me to be the most problematic meal of the day.

I was kind of wondering what a typical day's worth of eating on this sort of diet might be like.

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Exercising doesn't make me want to eat more. You would think it would make you hungry but for some reason it doesn't have that effect on me. In fact, sometimes after exercising I just feel like skipping dinner altogether. I'm told that exercising releases "feel good" endorphins in your brain similar to those you get when you eat a satisfying meal.

I have noticed on occasion when I go to the gym after work that I can go in hungry and come out not. Also, I can go in tired and come out not. Go figure.  :-\
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Post by: Meryl on March 07, 2013, 04:11:31 pm
I strongly encourage reading Taubes' book. It's enlightening, and much more of a page-turner than you'd think. (Easier still, do a search for his stories in the NYT, if you haven't already read them.)

And know that it's a bitch for about a week, then becomes much easier than you'd think. The vigor you feel is a big motivator. Seriously, I all of a sudden felt like I'd gotten younger.

Now that's an incentive!  8)
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 07, 2013, 04:37:11 pm
I have noticed on occasion when I go to the gym after work that I can go in hungry and come out not. Also, I can go in tired and come out not. Go figure.  :-\

Actually Jeff, those are normal reactions.

Work up an appetite?

It is commonly assumed that you can 'work up an appetite' with a vigorous workout.  But it turns out that the theory may not be completely accurate - at least immediately following exercise.  A brisk exercise session may actually reduce the appetite rather than increase it, according to a report.  Researchers at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah, claim that 45 minutes of moderate-to-vigorous exercise in the morning actually reduces a person’s motivation for food.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2202550/Work-appetite-Brisk-exercise-actually-REDUCES-hunger-pangs-scientists-claim.html

Exercise As a Cure for Fatigue and To Boost Energy Levels

When fatigue can no longer be blamed on winter hibernation, the cure may be as simple as to exercise, even if it's the last thing you feel like doing.

Researchers at the University of Georgia found that sedentary, otherwise healthy adults who engaged in as little as 20 minutes of low-to-moderate aerobic exercise, three days a week for six consecutive weeks, reported feeling less fatigued and more energized.

http://www.acefitness.org/article/2742/
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2013, 05:12:32 pm
Actually Jeff, those are normal reactions.

Why, bless your heart, I know that. I just meant that the reaction appears (is?) counterintuitive.  :)  :-*
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Post by: serious crayons on March 07, 2013, 07:11:04 pm
An average day might look like this:

Breakfast -- over-easy eggs and greens, the latter either raw and tossed in olive oil and maybe lemon juice or sauteed, maybe mixed into scrambled eggs along with some grated cheese. Or scrambled eggs with cheese and salsa. After about 40 years I have stopped cooking scrambled eggs with Pam, BTW, and now them in butter. Handful of raspberries.

Lunch: Salad topped with any combination available of meat, nuts, cheese, grilled veggies, avocado, dried cranberries, etc. Or leftovers from the previous night's dinner. All depends on where I am. If I go to Chipotle or this gyros shop near my office, I get approximately the same thing they'd put in a burrito or gyro, except on lettuce. Blackberries for dessert.

Snack: Nuts of any kind, even the really fatty macadamia. Cheese, which also can be as fatty as I like. Chopped coconut (you can get it pre-chopped at my grocery). Kombucha (fermented foods and drinks: a whole nother discussion!).

Dinner: Meat prepared however (I no longer make any big effort to avoid red or make sure all the fat is scrupulously trimmed or anything like that), vegetable often roasted, and salad. Liberal use of olive oil in all.

I find that a lot of dishes that require starches can be reinvented with vegetables substituted. For example, I recently made lasagna for myself and my sons, divided in two pans, identical except in theirs I used lasagna noodles and in mine I used sliced eggplant. Delish! I have been known to put spaghetti sauce on spaghetti squash. On Taco Nights, I put the exact things I would put in a taco -- seasoned meat, grated cheese, salsa, chopped onions -- on some good lettuce instead. When I make enchiladas, I use low-carb tortillas, which probably aren't that great raw in wraps but are just fine cooked in enchilada sauce with chicken and vegetables and melted full-fat cheese. I cook a pork roast in the slow-cooker, shred it up and serve it with chipotle cole slaw. My sons eat it in a sandwich; I just put the pork atop the cole slaw.

I haven't done this yet, but creamed veggie soup would be good, made of course with full-fat cream, maybe topped with roasted nuts and full-fat sour cream or Greek yogurt or grated cheese.

My sweet tooth hasn't entirely disappeared. To satiate it, I turn to berries, kombucha, chopped coconut, sweeter cheeses. For example, I make this weird but delicious treat: I soak chia and flax seeds in almond milk until the chia seeds thicken the mixture. I stir in full-fat ricotta and mascarpone and blend until they're smooth and thick like pudding. I top with blueberries. Yum!

In summer, once the farmers markets start carrying produce, it should become even easier. I'll grill up a bunch of meat and vegetables on the weekend, then use them all week in salads, enchiladas, etc.

The one flaw with this diet -- and it's a serious one -- is that it's a lot harder to eat in a socially/environmentally responsible way. For example, you're eating a lot of animal products (which the diet all but requires -- it would be hard if not impossible to be a low-carb vegan) so if you aren't careful you're supporting factory farming. It's better to buy meat from smaller animal/environmentally friendly farms -- and some low-carbers will only eat grass-fed beef -- but if you live a busy life, chances are that you won't be able to make sure of that every time. Also, of course, devoting larger swatches of land to raising livestock adds to pollution, global warming, species endangerment, global hunger and who knows what else.


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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2013, 08:26:11 pm
Thanks, Katharine.

Does this plan for eating include fish?

No joke, you are watching your cholesterol and triglycerides?

(I never did stop frying eggs in butter. ...  ::) )
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2013, 09:31:17 pm
I must laugh at myself. I really am my own worst enemy.

All this talk of eliminationg carbs, and what has my weekend been like so far? One carb after another!  :laugh:

I was doing my weekly grocery shopping after work yesterday, and on an impulse, in the prepared meal section I picked up a pasta dish to try for my supper last night. (I'm sure there was nothing wrong with it, but I just really didn't care for it, so I won't buy that particular dish again.)

Then today I was at farmers' market, and at one of the stands where I usually shop, they had Pennsylvania Dutch chicken pot pie (not a pie, but a stew of chicken and large egg noodles). I hadn't had any for a while, so I bought about a pint of it for supper this evening.

So here I am, one carb after another!  :laugh:

Well, one thing that has come over me this winter, as I begin to creep up on my 55th birthday, is a feeling that I'm tired of obsessing over diet, weight, and also exercise. I'm just tired of fussing over all this stuff. I'll try to keep my weight from rising too far and too fast, but I'm just tired of worrying about this stuff. It's all just been a matter of vanity, anyway.  :-\
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Post by: serious crayons on March 10, 2013, 01:38:31 am
Well, one thing that has come over me this winter, as I begin to creep up on my 55th birthday, is a feeling that I'm tired of obsessing over diet, weight, and also exercise. I'm just tired of fussing over all this stuff. I'll try to keep my weight from rising too far and too fast, but I'm just tired of worrying about this stuff. It's all just been a matter of vanity, anyway.  :-\

Jeff, from what I've seen of you, it's not something you should be worrying a lot about, anyway.  :) :-*


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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 10, 2013, 03:14:55 am
Jeff, from what I've seen of you, it's not something you should be worrying a lot about, anyway.  :) :-*

Well, thank you, that's kind of you to say, but remember that you haven't seen me in over five years.  ;)  The weight and the waistline have steadily increased with the passing years, and losing has grown proportionally more difficult. These days I'm tipping my bathroom scale at just under 165 lbs., which, by government standards for a man of my height, is definitely overweight, though, thankfully, at least not morbidly obese.

Since I'm short (for a man), bald, hairy, and nearsighted, it was formerly a matter of pride that at least I wasn't overweight; that was part of the "vanity" I mentioned in my previous post.
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Post by: Luvlylittlewing on March 11, 2013, 12:40:32 pm
I'm on a 40 day "Daniel Fast" with my church and so far I've lost 15 pounds.  The Daniel Fast says we should do as Daniel did when he was in the palace of the King (I can't remember how to spell the King's name) eat only fruits, veggies and drink nothing but water.  Daniel didn't want his people to eat the fatty foods perpared by the King's cooks.  The fast should only last 21 days, but my church wants to go for twice that long!  I've modified it to include nuts, and I haven't been strict about following it.  I will say giving up certain foods and sugar has caused me to feel so much better and I am losing.  I think I'll incorporate meatless days from now on, even when the fast ends on Easter Sunday.
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 11, 2013, 02:28:58 pm
Congrats on your success, darlin'!!!   ;D
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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 11, 2013, 02:54:56 pm
...we should do as Daniel did when he was in the palace of the King (I can't remember how to spell the King's name) eat only fruits, veggies and drink nothing but water.  Daniel didn't want his people to eat the fatty foods perpared by the King's cooks. 

King Nebuchadnezzar. Congrats from me too!
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Post by: Luvlylittlewing on March 11, 2013, 05:53:03 pm
King Nebuchadnezzar. Congrats from me too!

Yep, that's the guy!  ;D  I didn't want to even attempt to spell it.  Thanks for your kind words!  :)
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Post by: Luvlylittlewing on March 11, 2013, 05:53:33 pm
Congrats on your success, darlin'!!!   ;D

Thanks!   :-*
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Post by: southendmd on March 11, 2013, 09:51:58 pm
Major congrats to everyone who has been posting lately. 

I just read through this whole thread, just to get inspired. 

As it often goes, I regained those 30 pounds I worked so hard to lose back in 2010.  So, it's time to get back on the wagon and lose, lose, lose. 

No gimmicks, just the basics.  I believe in the no-carb rule.  It certainly worked for me three years ago. 

So, after a weekend of major and lovely carbs, it's show time.

Tonight's dinner was a little creamy cheese with pear and apple slices (be gone, you dreaded crackers!) followed by lovely fresh king salmon sautéed on high heat, accompanied by roasted shallots, carrots and parsnips; a little steamed broccoli and an avocado salad.  No carbs and good fats. Sparkling water, and easy on the wine. 

We can do it. 

Thank you, all, for your inspiration again. 

Thank you, Katherine, for your example. 

Chuckie, you can do it!  I remember meeting you in 2007, when you were at your best! 

Luvlylittlewing, you go gurl!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 11, 2013, 09:59:30 pm
Tonight's dinner was a little creamy cheese with pear and apple slices (be gone, you dreaded crackers!) followed by lovely fresh king salmon sautéed on high heat, accompanied by roasted shallots, carrots and parsnips; a little steamed broccoli and an avocado salad.  No carbs and good fats. Sparkling water, and easy on the wine.  

My gosh, that sounds like a lovely dinner!

If you ever get tired of shrinkology, you could take up cooking, I'm sure.  :D
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Post by: CellarDweller on March 12, 2013, 05:53:07 am
Chuckie, you can do it!  I remember meeting you in 2007, when you were at your best! 

So now I'm at my worst, is that what you're saying, bitch?   >:( :laugh: :laugh:

Sorry to hear you gained that weight back, doesn't that suck?  So easy to regain it, but so hard to lose it in the first place.   And now the second place.


after 5 days on a plateau, the scale read three more pounds dropped off today.

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So I have about 20 days to lose 10 more pounds, and hit my goal of 10% of my body weight between Ash Wednesday and Easter Sunday.
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Post by: southendmd on March 12, 2013, 08:54:09 am
My gosh, that sounds like a lovely dinner!

If you ever get tired of shrinkology, you could taking up cooking, I'm sure.  :D

Thanks!

So now I'm at my worst, is that what you're saying, bitch?   >:( :laugh: :laugh:

You're always at your best, dahlin'!   8)
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Post by: Sason on March 12, 2013, 04:02:50 pm
Some interesting action in this thread lately.

Here are my 2 cents:

For the last 8 months I've kept myself on a diet inspired by WW, but in my own interpretation.
I've cut down on the fatty and sweet stuff, eat a LOT of veggies to fill me up instead of more calorie laden foods, and drink mostly water and tea. Lots of fruit, very little bread. Whole meal. A piece of chocolate or a cookie now and then, but only one.

In these 8 months I've lost just over 10 kg (22 pounds), which is about half of my goal. I'm very pleased with it.

The slow rate is deliberate, I don't aim for a quick weight loss. I aim for a lifestyle that will last, with healthy habits that hopefully will prevent me from gaining again.

No matter the weather, I take a walk every day after work, between 30 and 60 minutes.


Congrats to everyone on their weight loss, and good luck to all of us!!!
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Post by: southendmd on March 12, 2013, 05:17:57 pm
Strong work, Sonja! And very good ideas. 
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Post by: Sason on March 12, 2013, 05:47:10 pm
Thanks, Paul.

And good luck to you!
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Post by: serious crayons on March 13, 2013, 12:08:33 pm
No gimmicks, just the basics.  I believe in the no-carb rule.  It certainly worked for me three years ago. 

So, after a weekend of major and lovely carbs, it's show time.

Tonight's dinner was a little creamy cheese with pear and apple slices (be gone, you dreaded crackers!) followed by lovely fresh king salmon sautéed on high heat, accompanied by roasted shallots, carrots and parsnips; a little steamed broccoli and an avocado salad.  No carbs and good fats. Sparkling water, and easy on the wine. 


I thoroughly believe in the no- (or at least, low-) carb rule, too. And not just for weight loss, but for overall good health. Good luck, Paul!

BTW, new findings suggest that "bad" fats are better for you than previously thought: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/eat-your-heart-out/?ref=magazine (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/eat-your-heart-out/?ref=magazine)

I've spent the past three months eating as much fat as I want, whether it's olive oil and avocados or butter and brie.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 13, 2013, 12:19:19 pm
I've spent the past three months eating as much fat as I want, whether it's olive oil and avocados or butter and brie.

With all that fat, just make sure you continue to get enough "roughage."  ;)
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Post by: Luvlylittlewing on March 13, 2013, 08:44:59 pm

I thoroughly believe in the no- (or at least, low-) carb rule, too. And not just for weight loss, but for overall good health. Good luck, Paul!

BTW, new findings suggest that "bad" fats are better for you than previously thought: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/eat-your-heart-out/?ref=magazine (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/eat-your-heart-out/?ref=magazine)

I've spent the past three months eating as much fat as I want, whether it's olive oil and avocados or butter and brie.



I lost 110 pounds in the mid-80s going low carb.  I didn't always stay with it, and I exercised like mad!  The weight fell off, but once my daughter was born, I didn't think low carb was a great way to eat while breast-feeding.  I gained those 100 pounds back and then some  :'( .  I still avoid bread and sugar, most fruits, except melons, as they're relatively low carb.  The thing about going low carb is that if you go off of it, the weight will return rather quickly.  You have to eat low carb for life if you want to maintain weight lost that way.  Or exercise like a fiend!  ;D
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Post by: serious crayons on March 14, 2013, 11:02:57 pm
With all that fat, just make sure you continue to get enough "roughage."  ;)

Thanks for the reminder, but I'm in good shape there. I eat a lot of vegetables, including some sort of salad pretty much every day.

Turns out one of the best substitutes for bread, pasta and rice is ... lettuce! You just take whatever you would put on top of the starch and make a salad out of it instead.

Tonight and yesterday I had shredded BBQed pork for dinner. In the South, the classic BBQ pork sandwich layers cole slaw atop the pork inside the sandwich. I do the same thing, except I use chipotle cole-slaw dressing and lose the bread.

And when I make eggs for breakfast, instead of toast I have them accompanied by either sauteed spinach or salsa/pico de gallo.



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Post by: Front-Ranger on March 19, 2013, 10:51:21 am
The only way I can think of that a person would gain all the weight back after losing a significant amount would be if you kept all your old clothes in the larger size. If you gave all those large clothes away and treated yourself to a new wardrobe in the smaller size, then you would know right away if you were gaining weight back, because the clothes would be uncomfortable. Then, you would take measures to keep from gaining more. Does this make sense?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2013, 12:05:56 pm
Thanks for the reminder, but I'm in good shape there. I eat a lot of vegetables, including some sort of salad pretty much every day.

Turns out one of the best substitutes for bread, pasta and rice is ... lettuce! You just take whatever you would put on top of the starch and make a salad out of it instead.

Tonight and yesterday I had shredded BBQed pork for dinner. In the South, the classic BBQ pork sandwich layers cole slaw atop the pork inside the sandwich. I do the same thing, except I use chipotle cole-slaw dressing and lose the bread.

And when I make eggs for breakfast, instead of toast I have them accompanied by either sauteed spinach or salsa/pico de gallo.

Now that you mention it, I've heard of using lettuce instead of bread.

I can only imagine what I might weigh today if I hadn't gone to carrying a salad for lunch every day. Most weekdays I have salad twice a day, once for lunch and again at supper as a side dish.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on March 19, 2013, 02:42:59 pm
FRiend Lee, I've seen that happen a number of places.....you can get stuff to eat served in a big lettuce leaf instead.

I don't do it because lettuce is the green with the least nutritional value. 

If I'm going to eat greens, I'll just have a salad and eat spinach and dark greens mixed.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 19, 2013, 02:53:50 pm
Actually, it was Katherine who brought up the great idea of substituting lettuce for bread, buns, etc.

But I'll contribute that I love spicy meatballs and green onions wrapped in a lettuce leaf and drizzled with hoisin sauce. Messy, but yummy!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 25, 2013, 05:39:56 pm
I had to go almost two weeks without my gym workout because the clubhouse was being retiled. Finally, yesterday I donned my snowsuit and walked down to the clubhouse. I was able to do a short cardio workout followed by my usual weight circuit (a fancy way of saying I went around and did a few repetitions on each weight machine), finishing up with my beloved inclined bench and Roman chair. You should have heard the clicking and clacking as my spine realigned itself! It's amazing how well I feel today after a good workout. I'm ready to break my Lenten fast (not really a fast) and have a yummy Easter feast!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on March 27, 2013, 04:43:59 pm
They're redoing the gym I go to as welll, new flooring and repainting the walls.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on March 28, 2013, 02:02:13 pm
The only way I can think of that a person would gain all the weight back after losing a significant amount would be if you kept all your old clothes in the larger size. If you gave all those large clothes away and treated yourself to a new wardrobe in the smaller size, then you would know right away if you were gaining weight back, because the clothes would be uncomfortable. Then, you would take measures to keep from gaining more. Does this make sense?

You would think so, wouldn't you? Unfortunately, for me it doesn't work that way -- too many times I have found myself forced to buy pants, especially, in a larger size that I no longer have available. And then the trap is that I don't want to spend money on clothes in a size I think I'm going to diet out of, so I buy cheaper and sometimes uglier clothing, so I feel bad about my appearance for two reasons.

But if I were smart, I would keep at least a pair of jeans and a pair of black pants packed away in that larger size, just in case. Luckily, I DID do that with my "skinny" clothes, so now I am finally getting to use them.


FRiend Lee, I've seen that happen a number of places.....you can get stuff to eat served in a big lettuce leaf instead.

I don't do it because lettuce is the green with the least nutritional value

If I'm going to eat greens, I'll just have a salad and eat spinach and dark greens mixed.

In this case, the overall purpose is less about trying to add nutrition than trying to subtract the starch from the bread/pasta/rice/tortilla. But yes, I usually eat this stuff in salad form and try to pick interesting varieties of lettuce or other greens, including spinach, arugula, kale or whatever. Excluding iceberg lettuce, I think leafy greens are one of the most nutritious vegetables there are.

If I were to make a "wrap" of lettuce -- which I haven't actually done at home, though it wouldn't be a bad idea -- I'd probably use Boston/bibb/butter lettuce. Or maybe kale or chard or cabbage! I can think of lots of good low-carb wraps: chicken, pork, steak, ground beef, Asian, Southwestern, old-country cabbage roll style ... They'd be great for taking to work, too.

Now I'm getting hungry!
 

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on March 29, 2013, 09:26:43 am

Well, today was the weigh in at work for the biggest loser, and I lost.

Oh well!

It was close, the winner lost 2% more of his body weight than I did.

I'll still keep this up, as I like that my clothes are loose now.  ;D  I did manage to lose 17 pounds.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on March 29, 2013, 09:39:04 am
17 pounds is a lot!

Well done, Chuck!!   :-*


And good luck in keeping it up. That's actually as big a challenge as losing.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 29, 2013, 09:45:17 am
Everyone's a winner in the biggest loser competition. It's sort of like being a Brokie...

I'm a bit sorry to see Lent end. I didn't get to fast and be as ascetic as I wanted to be. Next year I want to take a retreat somewhere, and do some meditating and body work. But spring, and good weather and outdoor activity weather are coming soon!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 17, 2013, 09:06:43 am
Well, when I weighed myself this morning, the needle of the scale was firmly on 160. I'm sure it will bounce back up again, but if I can continue this trend--and then figure out how to stablilize--those size 36 pants I just bought may be too large and I'll have to go buy more in size 34 again. That would be nice.  :)

Thing is, right now, I'm just living with being constantly hungry. I'm sure the day will come when I'm tired of that. It always does. Then the weight will start to increase again.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on April 17, 2013, 11:50:20 am
Well, when I weighed myself this morning, the needle of the scale was firmly on 160. I'm sure it will bounce back up again, but if I can continue this trend--and then figure out how to stablilize--those size 36 pants I just bought may be too large and I'll have to go buy more in size 34 again. That would be nice.  :)

Thing is, right now, I'm just living with being constantly hungry. I'm sure the day will come when I'm tired of that. It always does. Then the weight will start to increase again.  :-\

Don't say that!  :)  Maybe you'll finally be satisfied with eating less, I hope so.  Congrats on your success.  I've sort of leveled off, but I'll get back on-track soon.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 20, 2013, 02:31:36 pm
Thing is, right now, I'm just living with being constantly hungry. I'm sure the day will come when I'm tired of that. It always does. Then the weight will start to increase again.  :-\

The beauty of a high-fat, low-carb diet is that you're not constantly hungry. You get tired of the food limitations, for sure. But you don't really miss sweets and starches as much as you'd think. And since you get to eat something whenever you're hungry, it's easier to stick with it.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 20, 2013, 05:51:06 pm
Thing is, right now, I'm just living with being constantly hungry. I'm sure the day will come when I'm tired of that. It always does. Then the weight will start to increase again.  :-\

Don't say that!  :)  Maybe you'll finally be satisfied with eating less, I hope so.  Congrats on your success.  I've sort of leveled off, but I'll get back on-track soon.

Well, this has happened before, so I more or less expect it. Or, what has really frequently happened is that I'll lose the weight, and then I'll do something like go on vacation, where it's more difficult to control how much I eat because more restaurant meals are involved, and so the weight comes back.

Best of luck to you getting back on track!  :)

The beauty of a high-fat, low-carb diet is that you're not constantly hungry. You get tired of the food limitations, for sure. But you don't really miss sweets and starches as much as you'd think. And since you get to eat something whenever you're hungry, it's easier to stick with it.

So, what would constitute an acceptable snack? 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 20, 2013, 08:44:05 pm
So, what would constitute an acceptable snack?  

Nuts of all kinds, seeds, cheese, olives, avocado, smoked salmon, eggs. Hummus with carrot sticks and chopped bell peppers. Asparagus wrapped in prosciutto. Chicken salad scooped onto cucumber slices. Any combination of protein and vegetables on a salad.

If you're craving something sweet, choose berries or chunks of coconut (my grocery store chop it up and sells it packaged in the produce department). The weirdest thing I eat is spoonfuls of Crave Bros. mascarpone cheese, which has no sugar, very few carbs, but tastes like sweetened whipped cream the consistency of butter. Sometimes I stud it with fresh blueberries. Yum.

Fat is of no concern. And because my fruit intake has been mostly limited to berries, I don't worry about the fact that they're out of season and overly expensive at the moment.

Some low-carb enthusiasts avoid dairy, but I don't. That would be too limiting for me.

I have found some low-carb tortillas that aren't too bad cooked. I don't think they'd be good enough raw to make a good wrap, but you could do a microwaved or grilled burrito with refried beans, cheese, salsa, maybe eggs. Or you can make them into enchiladas.

Liquor -- whiskey, vodka, etc. -- has no carbs, but watch the mixes. Wine has some. Beer has a lot.

I've lost about 25 pounds since Thanksgiving and would like to lose another seven or so.



Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 20, 2013, 09:59:01 pm
Fat is of no concern.

Thanks for all those suggestions, Katharine. Some of them sound pretty high-toned (smoked salmon, asparagus wrapped in prosciutto). I'm afraid a hard-boiled egg might be more my speed.  ;D

Actually, since I asked my question--and this speaks to what I quoted from your post--I'm not so sure fat isn't a concern for me, because I have a strong family history of heart disease.

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Liquor -- whiskey, vodka, etc. -- has no carbs, but watch the mixes.

I'm glad to know my scotch passes muster. I'll just switch to water as a mixer--which is how I drink it at home--instead of soda, which is how I ordinarily order it in a bar.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 20, 2013, 10:34:49 pm
Thanks for all those suggestions, Katharine. Some of them sound pretty high-toned (smoked salmon, asparagus wrapped in prosciutto). I'm afraid a hard-boiled egg might be more my speed.  ;D

My grocery store sells packages of smoked salmon (both the hot-smoked, flaky kind and the cold-smoked kind, like lox). A pack of chunks of hot-smoked, around $13, lasts me about a week. It's about as difficult to serve oneself as a bowl of cereal.

My son went out today and grabbed bagels and lox, so my dinner is going to be a salad with lox, onions, chopped eggs and capers in a vinaigrette. Maybe sprinkled with some pumpkin seeds for crunch. Dessert: fresh raspberries. If I had avocado or chopped bacon, I'd add those, but I don't.

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Actually, since I asked my question--and this speaks to what I quoted from your post--I'm not so sure fat isn't a concern for me, because I have a strong family history of heart disease.

Well, journalist Gary Taubes, my low-carb guru, says there's scientific evidence that fat, even saturated fat, does not cause heart disease. But I couldn't really follow the science, so I can't describe it or vouch for it. With a little googling, you could probably find the explanation. Something about making the LDL molecules bigger or ...  ???

I could, however, follow the science of why low-carb diets help you lose weight. I probably can't do it justice writing it here, but at least I understood it as I was reading.

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I'm glad to know my scotch passes muster. I'll just switch to water as a mixer--which is how I drink it at home--instead of soda, which is how I ordinarily order it in a bar.

Soda as in sparkling water is fine! No carbs, no calories -- can't go wrong on any diet. But soda as in what we Minnesodans call "pop" -- Coke, 7Up -- has carbs unless it's diet. And if it is, I still think it's bad for you. But I'm assuming you wouldn't wreck good scotch with that.

Scotch with either club soda or water is good for you!  ;D

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 21, 2013, 03:40:49 pm
Oi! Today was bad. ...

Whoever provided the "coffee hour" after church actually had hotdogs and sauerkraut. It wasn't really possible to eat the hotdog without a bun: No plates.  :( At least that was lunch.

My son went out today and grabbed bagels and lox, so my dinner is going to be a salad with lox, onions, chopped eggs and capers in a vinaigrette. Maybe sprinkled with some pumpkin seeds for crunch. Dessert: fresh raspberries. If I had avocado or chopped bacon, I'd add those, but I don't.

That sounds pretty good!  :D

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Well, journalist Gary Taubes, my low-carb guru, says there's scientific evidence that fat, even saturated fat, does not cause heart disease. But I couldn't really follow the science, so I can't describe it or vouch for it. With a little googling, you could probably find the explanation. Something about making the LDL molecules bigger or ...  ???

I could, however, follow the science of why low-carb diets help you lose weight. I probably can't do it justice writing it here, but at least I understood it as I was reading.

I'm sure it's not too easy to follow, if correct. "LDL" (low-density lipoprotein) is actually the "bad cholesterol." That always seems counter-intuitive to me--you'd think "low" would be "good"--but it's actually "HDL" (high-density lipoprotein) that's the "good cholesterol."

For myself, I can only say that my dad was always quite the meat eater--I'm sure I remember him even trying a high-protein diet to lose weight when I was a kid, and that's got to be long before Atkins--and he had a quintuple bypass at age 62.  :-\

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Soda as in sparkling water is fine! No carbs, no calories -- can't go wrong on any diet. But soda as in what we Minnesodans call "pop" -- Coke, 7Up -- has carbs unless it's diet. And if it is, I still think it's bad for you. But I'm assuming you wouldn't wreck good scotch with that.

Scotch with either club soda or water is good for you!  ;D

"Minnesodans"?  ;D Sounds like someone is unconsciously craving a Dr. Pepper. ...  ;D

Sorry. ...  ::)

I have no idea what constitutes club soda. I just know I tried to drink some once and it was awful.  :P

I wouldn't even wreck bad scotch by putting Coke in it, though I once had an absent-minded bartender do that; he pushed the wrong button on the "gun." Needless to say, he made me another drink immediately.

But, yes, I knew already that scotch is good for you!  ;D

"Making white men dance since 1494," they say.  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on April 21, 2013, 07:23:17 pm
For myself, I can only say that my dad was always quite the meat eater--I'm sure I remember him even trying a high-protein diet to lose weight when I was a kid, and that's got to be long before Atkins--and he had a quintuple bypass at age 62.  :-\

Well, that's a bad genetic precedent.

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"Minnesodans"?  ;D Sounds like someone is unconsciously craving a Dr. Pepper. ...  ;D

Sorry. ...  ::)

Not unconsciously -- it was a deliberate pun. But actually, I hate Dr Pepper (no period in the company brand, BTW), and pretty much all other sugary soft drinks.

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I have no idea what constitutes club soda. I just know I tried to drink some once and it was awful.  :P

Club soda is carbonated water.

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I wouldn't even wreck bad scotch by putting Coke in it, though I once had an absent-minded bartender do that; he pushed the wrong button on the "gun."

 :P

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 22, 2013, 09:09:57 am
I didn't gain any weight back over the weekend. Yay!  :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 24, 2013, 10:35:24 am
I didn't gain any weight back over the weekend. Yay!  :D

And I seem to be managing to not gain it back this week, too.  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on May 25, 2013, 03:40:48 pm
Howzit going, Jeff?  :-\

Many sources warn us not to eat a lot of processed foods. But why? Here's one reason: processed foods have a lot of corn and soy, chiefly corn syrup and soy oil. Even baby formula is made primarily of corn and soy. That white stuff you put in your coffee that says, non-dairy creamer? It's corn and soy. Michael Pollan and a recent study conclude that "corn and soy’s  combined make up 40 percent of the total calories available to people. And, because they are cheap, corn and soy are disproportionately eaten by the poor and less educated.

Read more about it here: http://strongertogether.coop/fresh-from-the-source/soy-and-corn-healthy-choices-or-hidden-ingredients/ (http://strongertogether.coop/fresh-from-the-source/soy-and-corn-healthy-choices-or-hidden-ingredients/)

Thank you for reading this public service message of the day! Corn and soy are not in burgers and hot dogs (the high quality kind anyway), watermelon, or salads, so go ahead and enjoy these on your Memorial Day celebration! Have some corn on the cob too. Enjoy the grain as it was meant to be enjoyed.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2013, 12:51:46 pm
Well, I'm not terribly surprised, but after nearly a week of vacation, I've gained back almost all the five pounds I struggled to lose a few months ago.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on July 06, 2013, 05:08:09 pm
isn't that always the way it goes?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on July 06, 2013, 05:32:13 pm
After one year of slow and unsteady weight loss, I'm happy to announce that I've lost 12 kg!!! 

It's not much in one year, I know that - but after all 12 kg is 12 kg, no matter how long it took!

I'm planning on keeping it up, and if I'm able to continue like this I will be near my goal in about a year.
It's not unlikely that the speed will go down even more, as it often does, but then I'll just have to keep it up longer.

My method is as before: cutting down on the sweet and fatty stuff, and filling myself up with huge quantities of veggies and fruit.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2013, 08:18:00 pm
isn't that always the way it goes?

Sure enough.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on July 06, 2013, 09:27:36 pm
After one year of slow and unsteady weight loss, I'm happy to announce that I've lost 12 kg!!! 


Yay, Sonja! Jeff, it's the long term trend that counts, don't be disheartened.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2013, 10:30:21 pm
Yay, Sonja! Jeff, it's the long term trend that counts, don't be disheartened.

Thank you, but in my case the "long term trend" seems to be for weight to increase with age.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 26, 2013, 09:16:48 am
Well, after the Fourth of July holiday, the barbecue (with enough left-overs to feed a family of four), and a couple of celebratory lunches at work, it's pretty clear that I've gained back the five founds I struggled so hard to lose earlier this year. On the other hand, I was more or less expecting that to happen, sooner or later, so I'm neither terribly surprised nor terribly upset. I'm not happy about it, but I was expecting it.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 29, 2013, 06:42:25 pm
Well, as of this weekend, I have met my goal of losing five pounds before I leave for my ramble this coming Saturday. In fact, I lost six pounds.  :D

Now, all I have to do is keep it off this week!  :laugh:

It took discipline, no restaurant dinners, and lots and lots of Lean Cuisine and Weight Watchers entrees.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on September 29, 2013, 08:22:44 pm
;D   Congrats
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on October 03, 2013, 10:26:58 pm
A little Friday funny for us all!

http://www.cbs.com/shows/late_show/video/DHoQ21WQ_QehOhjj1KQGNohM1kST7iXE/david-letterman-steve-martin-s-weight-loss-video/ (http://www.cbs.com/shows/late_show/video/DHoQ21WQ_QehOhjj1KQGNohM1kST7iXE/david-letterman-steve-martin-s-weight-loss-video/)
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Post by: Sason on October 05, 2013, 10:08:18 am
The video is "not available in my geographic region".   >:(
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 02, 2013, 10:23:39 am
Well, despite the Thanksgiving feast, lots of leftovers, and a couple of restaurant meals, I did not gain back any weight over the past holiday weekend.  :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on December 02, 2013, 05:53:43 pm
Good for you, buddy!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2014, 10:18:07 am
Well, it appears I have managed to lose the five pounds I gained over the holidays, thank goodness.  :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on January 08, 2014, 01:06:48 pm
I've been on "The Fast Diet" for the last few months and I've lost 30 pounds.  It was hard going during the holidays but I still managed to lose.  On The Fast Diet I fast - sort of -- I eat only 500 calories 2 days a week.  Consuming only 500 calories is hard, but I space my fast days out and know that I can eat normally 5 days a week.  I didn't think it would work, but the weight is coming off. 
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2014, 02:31:32 pm
I've been on "The Fast Diet" for the last few months and I've lost 30 pounds.  It was hard going during the holidays but I still managed to lose.  On The Fast Diet I fast - sort of -- I eat only 500 calories 2 days a week.  Consuming only 500 calories is hard, but I space my fast days out and know that I can eat normally 5 days a week.  I didn't think it would work, but the weight is coming off. 

So, what sort of stuff and how much of it do you eat on your fast days that amounts to 500 calories?  ???
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on January 09, 2014, 12:48:00 am
Jeff, I know this sounds crazy, but on Mondays (a fast day) I'll wait until I'm off work when I'll eat my only meal of the day.  I take advantage of the "sale" at KFC: 2 pieces (leg and thigh) with a cobbette and small mashed potatoes.  If I get the grilled chicken (I always do) the chicken, corn and mashed potatoes (and gravy)  total 460 calories or so.  I'll add a small green beans to put the total up to 500 and fill me up more.  Tuesday and Wednesday I eat normally but try to watch what I eat.  Tomorrow I'll probably have oatmeal for breakfast and at dinner I'll have a tiny salad and 2 small baked salmon fillets.  I also like to limit diet soft drinks on fast days, while I fill up on water and sugarless green tea.  The fast diet is supposed to lower cholesterol levels, cut cancer and diabetes risk, and there are other benefits beyond weight loss.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 09, 2014, 10:32:58 am
Thanks! I don't think the KFC sounds crazy--gives you something to look forward to during the day.

And you answered my next question--about drinking water during the day on fast days.  :)

This morning I had an egg and two turkey sausage patties, with coffee, for breakfast. And then, at the last minute, because I was feeling particularly hungry, I had a slice of whole-wheat toast.

I wonder what would happen if I turned my daily eating habits upside down--had the entree that I usually have for dinner at breakfast time instead, and then had breakfast--plus a salad--at dinner time? Would it affect my tiredness/energy level at all? What affect would it have on the timing of my daily schedule?  ???
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 09, 2014, 12:43:07 pm
Doesn't that just figure? On the day I supplement my breakfast of an egg and sausages with a slice of toast, somebody brings a huge box of soft pretzels into work!  :laugh:

I'm going to eat one at lunch.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 09, 2014, 01:09:52 pm
One of the reasons I'm glad I'm not working in an office anymore!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on January 09, 2014, 10:24:57 pm
Thanks! I don't think the KFC sounds crazy--gives you something to look forward to during the day.

And you answered my next question--about drinking water during the day on fast days.  :)

This morning I had an egg and two turkey sausage patties, with coffee, for breakfast. And then, at the last minute, because I was feeling particularly hungry, I had a slice of whole-wheat toast.

I wonder what would happen if I turned my daily eating habits upside down--had the entree that I usually have for dinner at breakfast time instead, and then had breakfast--plus a salad--at dinner time? Would it affect my tiredness/energy level at all? What affect would it have on the timing of my daily schedule?  ???

Jeff, I don't think you will notice any difference at all.  I often have breakfast for dinner, and a large dinner-like breakfast some mornings.  I don't feel any change in my energy levels or my daily schedule.  If you watch your calorie intake you should be fine.

I decided to have some more grilled chicken from KDF for dinner.  I got off work too late to cook and the drive-thru was callin' my name.  I was able to keep within my 500 calorie limit, and look forward to eating normally tomorrow and until next Monday.  I'll do about an hour on the exercise bike, which, according to most sources out there, will eat up most of the 500 calories I consumed during the day.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Luvlylittlewing on January 09, 2014, 10:27:06 pm
Doesn't that just figure? On the day I supplement my breakfast of an egg and sausages with a slice of toast, somebody brings a huge box of soft pretzels into work!  :laugh:

I'm going to eat one at lunch.


Why not?  Sounds good to me!    :)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 10, 2014, 10:38:54 am
Jeff, I don't think you will notice any difference at all.  I often have breakfast for dinner, and a large dinner-like breakfast some mornings.  I don't feel any change in my energy levels or my daily schedule.  If you watch your calorie intake you should be fine.

I already do, that, too. It gives more time to enjoy it. The only difference is that when I have "breakfast" for "supper," I usually add a salad.

Why not?  Sounds good to me!    :)

That soft pretzel was good!  :laugh:  Actually, I customarily carry a serving of pretzel nuggets with my lunch, and I just ate the soft pretzel instead.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: RebeccaJhon on March 24, 2014, 04:24:02 am
Drink green tea (http://www.vitadigest.com/nutritional-supplements.html) and maintain your diet to maintain your health and fitness. Avoid the junk food and eat salad. For losing weight exercise and diet both are important tools and with exercise we should reduce the amount of calories in the diet. It is good to eat simple food like vegetables because there are low calories in vegetables.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on March 24, 2014, 03:08:07 pm
Welcome, RebeccaJhon! I would offer you a piece of cherry cake but you would probably think it was junk food. You are welcome to step over to the Introduce Yourself (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,31.0.html) thread and, well, introduce yourself!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: morrobay on March 31, 2014, 10:12:28 am
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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Sason on March 31, 2014, 04:55:46 pm
Ain't that the truth! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on March 31, 2014, 10:59:12 pm
That reminds me of a line from the TV show "Cheers":  Norm walks into the bar, Coach asks him:

"What are you up to, Norm?"

Norm replies, "My ideal weight, if I were 11 feet tall."
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on April 01, 2014, 08:10:53 am
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Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 23, 2014, 09:37:44 pm
So, it's that time of year again. My body is craving carbs, and all it wants to do is eat and sleep.  :(
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on October 24, 2014, 07:45:18 am
Ugh, I feel you on that.

I'm just grateful that my ankle has healed and I can get back to the treadmill, for a short period of time at a slow speed. 

Then I can build it up again from there.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on October 24, 2014, 09:06:02 am
One of the reasons I'm glad I'm not working in an office anymore!

At the newspaper office where I work, people rarely bring in treats just to be nice to everyone (there are a lot of pepole). But occasionally there'll be a birthday with cupcakes or some staff event that involves treats. Plus, every year around the holidays the paper holds a cookie recipe contest for readers. The food staff picks out the best looking eight or ten and bakes up batches of them. After the judges try them all, the rest get set out for employees.

Since I more or less quit eating sugar two years ago, I have reached the point where I can see that stuff sitting out and, although it looks kind of tasty and I'm curious enough to vaguely wish I could try some, I don't much care. I can pass it up with little craving or regret.

Whereas in the old days my big problem would be wondering how many I could take without raising eyebrows.

Over the past two years, I've cumulatively eaten about as much sugar as I probably have eaten in a single day -- around Halloween or Christmas, especially -- in the old days.

Last weekend I got kind of careless, though. My son was out in the country skateboarding with his friends and they decided to stop by the apple orchard where I used to take my sons when they were children. He brought home some apples, but also an apple pie -- I had a few small pieces, partly out of nostalgia and partly because it was really good pie.

But that could lead to a dangerous slippery slope. The more sugar you eat, the more you want.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 24, 2014, 11:23:14 am
Tell you what, 25 years ago I was really good at planning an entire week's meals before I went grocery shopping. I seem to have lost that skill, and I can't seem to get it back.  :(

On the other hand, if we have a transit strike here beginning Monday, I'm going to get lots of really good cardiovascular exercise walking to and from work next week.  :-\
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 25, 2014, 11:54:08 am
I really do hate that my life seems to revolve around food: Reading labels, trying not to eat too much of it, trying to vary my menus so I'm not eating the same thing all the time--and constantly worrying about all of it.   :(

And at the risk of going OT, the thought occurs to me as I write this that I guess women and gay men have to deal with the same issue of socially/culturally/societally imposed notions of what constitutes an attractive body.  :(

Gee, I'm in a cheerful mood for a Saturday!  ;D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 31, 2014, 11:14:25 am
Perhaps I'm jumping the gun a bit, because it's only New Year's Eve, but as of this morning, anyway, I've managed to make it this far through this holiday season without gaining any weight!  :D
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on December 31, 2014, 11:47:28 am
congrats!!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 31, 2014, 04:37:36 pm
Great! What is your secret?
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 31, 2014, 05:36:19 pm
Great! What is your secret?

Everything in moderation; nothing in excess.

Careful rationing and firm control. No more than two of cousin's homemade cookies a day. Made the huge dark-chocolate candy bar last for four days.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 01, 2015, 02:00:28 pm
sounds good, Jeff!
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2015, 10:29:18 pm
I cannot remember the last time I had pizza.  :(
I cannot remember the last time I had a cheese steak.  :(
I cannot remember the last time I had a doughnut.  :(
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on January 15, 2015, 10:57:45 pm
I don't remember having pizza, but I'm looking forward to having it next summer, because I have a pizza oven! That's right, an outdoor pizza oven!

I do remember having cheese steak. I think it's called "Philly cheese steak". I didn't really like it that much. Too heavy.

I don't remember having a doughnut, but I did have a small pastry with walnuts on top this morning at the convention center in Grand Junction. I was leaving on a long car trip to return home and knew I wouldn't be having lunch.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on January 17, 2015, 12:39:40 am
I can say that I'm definitely eating healthier with the start of this year.  More salads, cottage cheese and smaller portions.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: southendmd on August 14, 2018, 08:08:08 am
Time to bump this thread. I wonder where we all stand now.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 14, 2018, 09:38:08 am
I lost a mere five pounds when my father was in the hospital last December. I didn't feel like eating and was too tired to fix anything anyway when I got home from the hospital. I was also skipping lunch most days. I would get to the hospital late morning and sit with my dad until until 4 p.m. or so, with no lunch.

At least I've managed to keep that five pounds off, and it made a surprising difference in the waist size of my trousers: I went down a whole size.

Now, if I could only lose another five pounds, but that ain't happenin'.

Of course, even if I succeeded in doing that, I'd still be overweight for height.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 14, 2018, 10:46:08 am
I would like to lose 5 to 7 pounds. These excess pounds have been hanging around for nearly a year since my mother was in the hospital. I'm getting tired of them weighing (literally) me down. Having so many friends want to take me out to dinner for my birthday didn't help.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 14, 2018, 11:17:56 am
I would like to lose 5 to 7 pounds. These excess pounds have been hanging around for nearly a year since my mother was in the hospital. I'm getting tired of them weighing (literally) me down. Having so many friends want to take me out to dinner for my birthday didn't help.

This is quite true. Frequent restaurant dinners are not your friend when you would like to lose weight.

Quite a few years ago now, I went through a spell when I just did not feel like cooking on a Saturday evening (the one day in the week when, ordinarily, I feel that I have the time to prepare a proper meal). Every Saturday night I was having dinner at a neighborhood restaurant (now closed). That was when I packed on the pounds that I'm now unable to lose.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on August 14, 2018, 11:39:21 am
Time to bump this thread. I wonder where we all stand now.

Thanks for bumping this, Paul! I went back to look at 2013, the year I lost 30 pounds in six months by going on a strict low-carb diet.

My posts back in them days were about what I was eating, menus and all. I also wrote about how much better I was feeling in what ways, including no back ache and extra energy.

But in June of that year I went to Europe, where of course I went off my low-carb diet for paella in Barcelona and a few pastries in Paris and whatever else was available, carbs be damned. When I got home, I started eating what I would consider a "normal" diet. Starches for one or two meals a day. Occasional cookies, etc.

I gained back the weight. My back pain came back. My skinny clothes hung in the closet unworn. I've lost some energy. (It's interesting that European travel is the downfall of many Americans -- I can't imagine going to Italy without eating a ton of pasta and pizza --  whereas Europeans themselves tend to be slimmer than most Americans.)

Now, inspired by old me, I'm going to try it again, using my 2013 info as a guide! The food actually sounds pretty good. (Pages 88 and 89, if anyone is interested.)

I guess sometimes really long blathering posts pay off!  :laugh:


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on August 14, 2018, 11:51:48 am
Having so many friends want to take me out to dinner for my birthday didn't help.

Restaurants can be tempting! But, depending on the place, they can often provide healthy meals if you can order a la carte. In my low-carb days I used to order a salad and a piece of fish or some shrimp or whatever. Seafood, sushi and most Asian restaurants have some good options, too.

The one good lingering effect of my low-carb days is that my sweet tooth was, if not entirely eradicated, at least desweetened. Nowadays I could eat a piece of cherry cake if my hostess offered it (unless I couldn't eat no cake just then). But I don't crave it and I don't even look at restaurant dessert menus.


Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Wojtek on August 14, 2018, 07:24:08 pm
Truthfully, losing weight is a nightmare that looms large in my head. I’ve been struggling to gain weight ever since I was a child. It wasn’t that much of a nuisance back then, but right now, as I’m coming out of my adolescence into my fully fledged self, I wish I could get my body into shape… and being constantly hampered by your own digestive system is a great impediment.

Suffice to say I could really use some of those excess pounds you’re talking about  ;)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on August 15, 2018, 11:30:01 am
Suffice to say I could really use some of those excess pounds you’re talking about  ;)

Wouldn't it be great if it worked that way? If we could just redistribute fat evenly? Maybe in the future. But since so far we can't even manage to distribute money remotely evenly, fat might be a ways down the road ...  :-\

Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: Front-Ranger on August 15, 2018, 04:07:10 pm
So, here's what I had for lunch. It was vegan since I had leftovers from a vegan buffet I put together over the weekend. Vegan cheese, meat substitute (seitan), sprouts, tomatoes, lettuce, beans, couscous, and a lemon garlic vinaigrette. It was pretty good. However, I got hungry again about 4 pm and, since I was too busy to stop and eat, it was a problem.
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: CellarDweller on August 15, 2018, 05:45:59 pm
Time to bump this thread. I wonder where we all stand now.

I need to start all over again.

::)
Title: Re: I Wish I Knew How to LOSE You--The Weight Loss Thread (check first post)
Post by: serious crayons on August 16, 2018, 10:46:12 am
So, there's what I had for lunch. It was vegan since I had leftovers from a vegan buffet I put together over the weekend. Vegan cheese, meat substitute (seitan), sprouts, tomatoes, lettuce, beans, couscous, and a lemon garlic vinaigrette. It was pretty good. However, I got hungry again about 4 pm and, since I was too busy to stop and eat, it was a problem.

Yeah, I would imagine seitan is less filling than meat. When I have my act together (which is only occasionally), I keep shredded chicken or smoked fish on hand for this kind of situation.

Your daughter and her husband are vegans, right? So I assume their kids are, too?

My son became a really strict vegetarian for a while. Luckily, not a vegan. That's really what you have to do if you're avoiding meat for humane purposes, but I didn't tell him that because he was already super strict about avoiding any contact with any dead-animal product. Also I worried about him not getting enough protein, but luckily he was eating eggs and cheese and seitan.

Then one day when he was seeing a doctor I made the mistake of bringing this up in front of him. I asked the doctor if she thought he was getting enough protein. She said yes, but noted that he should be careful not to go overboard with the seitan because of course the soy it's made from is a phytoestrogen.

My son never ate another bite of any soy-related product. Didn't want to grow boobs.  ::)

A side note: Here in Minneapolis, there's a vegan butcher! I've never been there, but I've heard it's good.