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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #110 on: December 20, 2007, 07:04:50 pm »
Parts 117 and 118, unfiltered.  The poster of the filtered videos is having some trouble, so here are the unfiltered parts 117 and 118 of the Luke and Noah storyline.

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Here they are, filtered, if you prefer to leave out the other storylines.

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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #111 on: December 21, 2007, 01:36:47 am »
As beautiful as the last segment of today's episode was, a number of Nuke supporters are absolutely infuriated by the lack of a direct kiss... instead of the implied one. But I have been struck by the cold force of reality and have come to the inevitable conclusion that the actors simply do not like kissing each other. That is a possibility that had not gone through my mind many times before, but kissing a person is perhaps the most intimate you can become with that person, so I can see why some would not be willing to do that with persons with whom they are uncomfortable becoming extremely intimate. Actors can put this feeling behind them when required generally, so I had assumed that Van and Jake were already comfortable with the idea. And indeed, the last full kiss (the one that was cut down to size - see page 4) seemed to me like an involved and matured kiss, and there was no sign of discomfort on the part of the actors.

But let's face reality here. The actors themselves, Van and Jake are straight (as much as we might hope otherwise), and as human beings, deserving of their own sexual identity and the freedom to say "No" to certain situations when it's not something they want to do. Of course, this is based on the premise that the act of kissing is uncomfortable for both actors, and I think it is phenomenal enough to realize that both actors are willing to portray the story because its an important one. But I am wondering now if our pressure to have them kiss is perhaps too adamant.

If you are gay man, consider what you would do if you were asked to kiss a woman whom you were not attracted to. Many people would find this extraordinarily difficult, despite psychological preparation, method acting tips, or any other assortment of behavioral guides.

Now, of course, if the question is censorship... and there is still some doubt in my mind that envelops this possibility, then it is something that we, the audience can do something about. But I am reserved at this point. I am willing to determine if it is the actors themselves that are holding out because of their personal beliefs and they are doing what they can to portray the love story without yielding too much to the demand of others while sacrificing their core beliefs, or engaging in behavior that may very well be personally repugnant to both of them. They certainly have a right to do so, and I would hold them in high regard for either case.
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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #112 on: December 21, 2007, 01:51:08 am »
According to the people in the know, they had kissed, it's just that it was not shown.  Both Van and Jake had said they have no problem kissing, so I don't think the lack of kissing shown was due to them.  I am as confused as all other viewers as to why the kiss scene was omitted, however, the writing and lead up to the delcaration was beautifully done.

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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #113 on: December 21, 2007, 06:32:34 am »
Alright... if that's the case, we might need to join the letters to Proctor & Gamble Campaign. It is CENSORSHIP, that evil which would scour truth from the world to save face and preserve the status quo.
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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #114 on: December 21, 2007, 07:44:24 am »
Of course, if people keep watching the show in hopes of seeing a Nuke kiss, and they are aggravated by the lack of one, the fact remains that they are still watching the show. So perhaps that might be something that needs to stop. I don't think the networks are interested in pandering to the demands of their audience, only in the amount of viewership that they receive. So they know, that if people are writing to the producers, then the show is being watched, even if the scenes that people want to see are not being released to the network.

In order to force real change, it may become necessary to stop watching it... :( 
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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #115 on: December 21, 2007, 07:51:18 am »
According to the people in the know, they had kissed, it's just that it was not shown.  Both Van and Jake had said they have no problem kissing, so I don't think the lack of kissing shown was due to them.  I am as confused as all other viewers as to why the kiss scene was omitted, however, the writing and lead up to the delcaration was beautifully done.

Ha, I'm quoting myself.  I think there's some conflicting and confusing statements, the last I understand from the clarification of those people in the know was the script provided for a kiss, but it seemed that they didn't actually film it but implied it, hence the outcome of yesterday's episode.

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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #116 on: December 21, 2007, 05:24:50 pm »
Implied kisses are infuriating!
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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #117 on: December 21, 2007, 06:26:37 pm »
I'm not sure if anyone else recognized the humor in that last post... but anyway... part 119 of the Luke and Noah storyline, unfiltered! It's fantastic...

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The As The World Turns Christmas special has me mentally squealing like a school girl. Luke and Noah are both incredibly handsome in late 19th century finery, and the linguistic halts and stiffness of the Victorian socialites have been captured beautifully by whoever came up with this episode. There are a few things I have a little quirk with, such as the introductions. The tone of the Victorian introductions is correct, but the order is wrong. Younger is introduced to older, men are introduced to women (excluding attached women, whom are introduced by their male counterpart to everyone else), those with no titles are introduced to those with titles. In Victorian society, those with higher social status are addressed more respectfully.... In some ways, these traditions continue today, though we have changed this order somewhat. Now I believe it is acceptable to introduce others to older acquaintances, regardless of social standing, except for political address.  Ah well, enough Society Rules.

Noah calls Luke by his given name of Luciano, which of course turns me into a throbbing pile of goo for some reason.

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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #118 on: December 21, 2007, 07:17:36 pm »
I found this hilarious article at After Elton regarding today's show and what's now known as the Mistletoe That Stole Christmas fiasco.

http://www.afterelton.com/blog/brianjuergens/liveblogging-as-the-world-turns-ghosts-of-gay-teenagers-past-edition

"2:12PM EDT: Okay. So we open on Lily and Dusty sitting on a settee with the girls playing on the floor in front of them. The ladies look like they're wearing human-sized Marie Osmond Doll outfits and Dusty looks ... well, he actually looks totally hot. Everyone starts speaking in these starched voices that call to mind the acting troupe in Waiting for Guffman. Anyway, apparently in this story Lily's husband has died and Dusty wants to announce their engagement. Suddenly we hear a bunch of dropped firewood and cut to a stinky-faced Holden standing in the doorway wearing what looks like a J Crew leather jacket and Oxford. What, did he not get the memo?

Holden is the stable-boy or whatever and he tries to talk Lily into not marrying Mister Donovan. He almost kisses her and suddenly Bonnie shows up. She makes a quip about how she's only still married because "divorce is frowned upon". Ha! Get it? She's a DIVORCE LAWYER. Lily reveals that Holden is indeed the stableboy (this is so Harlequin Romance soft-core porn).

In the kitchen a bunch of extras from Gosford Park are getting al scullery and make reference to "young master Luke" being all growed up, which sounds a bit Ben Kenobi to me.

In the rather opulent dining room, we find Luke in a tux. "Mayer" arrives and he and Luke hug. He introduces him as a friend from University to Donovan, and Mayer inquires as to whether he is one of the New York Donovans (insert Mayer/Donovan old-timey slashfic HERE). Noah tries to kiss Luke (or "Luciano", as he calls him) and Luke dodges, saying "not here" ... meaning, of course, not while the camera is pointing at them.

Noah reveals that he is engaged to a daughter of a family friend, which of course doesn't thrill our young Jedi. They toast to marriage. I'm half-tempted to start drinking myself at this point."
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Re: As the World Turns - Luke and Noah (Videos)
« Reply #119 on: December 21, 2007, 08:07:45 pm »
I got this link to an afterelton article from Van's fansite, I find this article insightful and logical:

http://www.afterelton.com/blog/michaeljensen/hell-hath-no-fury-atwt-fan-scorned

As I am not American, nor am I familiar with US soaps at all, I really have no perspective on the audience's reaction, but I do think too drastic actions taken by the fans of this storyline to CBS or P&G, it may harm the story, Van and Jake instead of benefiting them in the long run, but that's jmo.