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We're Talking Star Trek!!
« on: March 03, 2008, 01:11:52 am »
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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2008, 01:23:14 am »
I loved Next Generation probably the most of the series. I looked at some "Enterprise" dvds the other day that have the Okuda commentary line in it. really was great.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2008, 01:25:02 am »
I remember that Wesley's father was name Jack Crusher. Do you think it was an "arranged" marriage like Jack Twist's, I think that the real love of Beverly's life was Jean Luc, he was her intellectual equal.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2008, 01:27:35 am »
I have never seen any of the 'Enterprise' shows...I gave up after "Deep Space Nine"

Enterprise is set 100 years after the Cochrane test flight of the Phoenix. It is set in the very early days of Star Fleet, even before the Romulan War forced the creation of the Federation. go rent some of the dvds I think that you will like it. The chief engineer has a Texas accent about as thick as mine, so I guess we Texans were not all wiped out in WWIII

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2008, 01:29:39 am »
After Rick Berman took over for Gene, I felt he went too dark. Like he was trying to turn it into "Star Wars" instead.....Star Trek to me was always built on hope and the thought that people were better than they thought they could be...

you've made a great point, it is darker after the death of Roddenberry, but is that entirely due to Berman. Didn't Roddenberry's widow have something to do with this, she was in charge of the weird alien series about those hermaphraditic aliens who seemingly take over the Earth, I can't remember the title, but I hated it.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2008, 01:30:05 am »
Enterprise is set 100 years after the Cochrane test flight of the Phoenix. It is set in the very early days of Star Fleet, even before the Romulan War forced the creation of the Federation. go rent some of the dvds I think that you will like it. The chief engineer has a Texas accent about as thick as mine, so I guess we Texans were not all wiped out in WWIII

 :laugh:

I would put mine up against yours any day!! (I think there is still a recording of me around here somewhere) but you KNEW we would survive...we could hide out in the Dead Woods...

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2008, 01:32:14 am »
now I know they did have an attraction.....they were VERY fond of one another but I can't see Picard having an affair with someone's wife. I think Jack Crusher was her 'college sweetheart'....I didn't get the impression he would have been ambitious enough for her...

why wouldn't Picard take one on the sly? he bent the rules just as much as Kirk did, Picard would just intoned the correct political phraseology to make it sound OK. Kirk just bulled his way into whatever he wanted without an apologetic explanation.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2008, 01:33:51 am »
I would put mine up against yours any day!! (I think there is still a recording of me around here somewhere) but you KNEW we would survive...we could hide out in the Dead Woods...

so we're going to get into a "country contest". what is that song popular now, "He turned country!"

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2008, 01:35:04 am »
why wouldn't Picard take one on the sly? he bent the rules just as much as Kirk did, Picard would just intoned the correct political phraseology to make it sound OK. Kirk just bulled his way into whatever he wanted without an apologetic explanation.

oh no he wouldn't!! He had impeccable moral standards...unlike that Kirk that broke the Prime Directive every other episode!

plus he was MUCH sexier than Kirk

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2008, 01:35:13 am »
the best doctor they ever had was McCoy (of course) but I DID like Beverly.....loved her hair.

one of my favorite episodes was the one about the flight accident at Starfleet Academy

McCoy was my ideal as well, I would like to be like Picard, but I am just not modulated enough to make it work. I tell it like it is, the hell with the varnish.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2008, 01:37:18 am »
McCoy was my ideal as well, I would like to be like Picard, but I am just not modulated enough to make it work. I tell it like it is, the hell with the varnish.

NO!!

really??

I find that so hard to believe!!

I would like to be that smart...and have the ability to think strategically like he did. Seemed to always be one step ahead of everyone...

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 01:37:42 am »
oh no he wouldn't!! He had impeccable moral standards...unlike that Kirk that broke the Prime Directive every other episode!

plus he was MUCH sexier than Kirk


we agree on that, Picard was definitely sexy, in a balding kind of way!  I see now how you have accumulated 900,000 posts, we have already racked up about 15 in a few minutes. and I bet you have several of these IM type sites scattered around.

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 01:38:32 am »
NO!!

really??

I find that so hard to believe!!

I would like to be that smart...and have the ability to think strategically like he did. Seemed to always be one step ahead of everyone...
that is absolutely true

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 01:39:46 am »
sorry, I've got to run. some chores before bed. see you tomorrow, that is if the flash flood we are supposed to have doesn't wash ( that is "warsh", in Texan) me away.

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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2008, 01:40:29 am »
we agree on that, Picard was definitely sexy, in a balding kind of way!  I see now how you have accumulated 900,000 posts, we have already racked up about 15 in a few minutes. and I bet you have several of these IM type sites scattered around.

 8)

I am just a blabber mouth!!

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 08:44:36 pm »
I have watched all the Trek shows, although have possibly missed a few episodes of the original.  Enterprise was interesting.  They had a dilemma with the techno props - if you look at the communicators in the original and the other shows, they were huge ... now go back in time to Enterprise, which is still set in our future, and think about how small our cell phones are today!  Also, Florida, my home state, does not fare so well in Enterprise.


not to be too "Trekkie" here but here is my thoughts on that.

We are going to tiny little phones..but there will come a point when small will be TOO small...our fingers are only able to manipulate things well that they can get a grip on! so I think  ;D They wised up in the future and went with utility over size...what was most comfortable and easiest for the majority to use.

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 08:47:01 pm »
I love the "Next Generation" and "Enterprise" and all the movies.

"Deep Space Nine" bored me and "Voyager" never interested me at all, so I never watched them.

The original "Star Trek" is OK. I guess it would have made more of an impact had I seen it back in the day when it was the only SF around.  But now...[shrug]

Gene Roddenberry's wife is also the voice of the computer.

I think Gene and Nichelle Nichols also had an affair according to her.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 08:55:00 pm »
fave movie was the Wrath of Kahn!!

that Ricardo Montalban....dang, he could chew up some scenery...

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2008, 08:58:54 pm »
Hmmm - I respectfully disagree.  With future technology, we won't need our fingers.  Phones will be voice or thought activated.  But good try!  ;D



and what about when you are in a crowd? or somewhere where you need privacy?

Oops...I just thought...I guess it would be tuned to just YOUR thoughts...

hmmm

BACK to the drawing board!!  :laugh: :laugh:

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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2008, 11:14:39 pm »
I have watched all the Trek shows, although have possibly missed a few episodes of the original.  Enterprise was interesting.  They had a dilemma with the techno props - if you look at the communicators in the original and the other shows, they were huge ... now go back in time to Enterprise, which is still set in our future, and think about how small our cell phones are today!  Also, Florida, my home state, does not fare so well in Enterprise.

Voyager - Janeway's (Kate Mulgrew) mousey voice bothered me at first, but I grew to really like the show.  And I thought Tom Paris was hot.  Roxann Dawson, who starred as B'Elanna Torres, went on to direct several episodes of Enterprise.

The Next Generation - Thank goodness they brought Trek back!  I loved this show!

DS-9 was my least favorite of the Trek shows.

Gene Roddenberry's wife was Majel Barrett.  She starred in some Trek episodes ("Nurse Chapel" from Star Trek and "Lwaxana Troi" in Star Trek: The Next Generation), and did have quite a bit to do with later Trek series.

Has anyone ever been a complete nerd and filmed a mini-Trek episode (starring yourself and two friends) at Universal's theme park in Orlando?  I admit it.  It is worth a laugh!

On another note, any Babylon 5 or Battlestar Galactica (the new one) fans here?





loved Bab 5, I remember the original Battlestar and it was so bad we used to make fun of it way back then, the new one is ok, but it never grabbed me like Bab 5 did.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2008, 11:16:13 pm »
not to be too "Trekkie" here but here is my thoughts on that.

We are going to tiny little phones..but there will come a point when small will be TOO small...our fingers are only able to manipulate things well that they can get a grip on! so I think  ;D They wised up in the future and went with utility over size...what was most comfortable and easiest for the majority to use.

jess, implants in the skull and the eyes are the next wave in communication devices.

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2008, 11:17:36 pm »
fave movie was the Wrath of Kahn!!

that Ricardo Montalban....dang, he could chew up some scenery...

ST II was good, but, "Generations" ST VII is better, one of the best sci fi movies ever.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2008, 11:21:32 pm »
ST II was good, but, "Generations" ST VII is better, one of the best sci fi movies ever.

hmmmm.....do they destroy the ship??

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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2008, 11:23:52 pm »
Enterprise D is destroyed in the film, the next film the Enterprise E premiers.

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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2008, 11:35:00 pm »
Enterprise D is destroyed in the film, the next film the Enterprise E premiers.

yep.

You ever hear the phrase 'Jump the shark"? to me the movies 'jumped the shark when they started having to destroy the ship every time. I mean come on...the first one lasted thiry years and these new ones last six months? They HAVE to be using the 'low bidder' system...

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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2008, 11:43:57 pm »
Jess you're enjoying the scifi tech aspects of the story so much that you may be unconsciously ignoring the symbolism in the film. "Generations" is about the passage of time and the fact that we grow old and a new generation takes over, not only of Kirk to Picard but also ship D to ship E. Go watch the film again with your film critics glasses on and I know you will find a deeper enjoyment in it. This is the one Star Trek movie that really can be looked at metaphorically as having symbolic or deeper meanings. In this case it is the deeper meaning of life, death, mortality, etc.

I like the movie so much, I put a quote from Dr Soran at the bottom of my posts.

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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2008, 11:54:25 pm »
Jess you're enjoying the scifi tech aspects of the story so much that you may be unconsciously ignoring the symbolism in the film. "Generations" is about the passage of time and the fact that we grow old and a new generation takes over, not only of Kirk to Picard but also ship D to ship E. Go watch the film again with your film critics glasses on and I know you will find a deeper enjoyment in it. This is the one Star Trek movie that really can be looked at metaphorically as having symbolic or deeper meanings. In this case it is the deeper meaning of life, death, mortality, etc.

I like the movie so much, I put a quote from Dr Soran at the bottom of my posts.

well I DID enjoy the part where Picard goes and gets Kirk to help him...

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2008, 12:18:53 am »
Really??

Yep.  Nichelle wrote it in her autobiography.  She had waited until after he passed to bring it up.  Or so she said.

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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2008, 12:23:19 am »
Nichelle is one hot lady! Did she say if she and Gene had an on-going affair, or was it just nookies now and then. And was Majel jealous?

And was anyone else jealous?

Has anyone ever given thought as to why the George Takei really hates Wm Shatner, is their some jealousy there? and I mean of jealousy the sexual kind.

 ???

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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2008, 12:34:18 am »
Nichelle is one hot lady! Did she say if she and Gene had an on-going affair, or was it just nookies now and then. And was Majel jealous?

And was anyone else jealous?

Has anyone ever given thought as to why the George Takei really hates Wm Shatner, is their some jealousy there? and I mean of jealousy the sexual kind.

 ???


I didn't know George hated William Shatner!!!!

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« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2008, 12:35:03 am »
and why would you think he would be sexually jealous? did William have an affair with someone??

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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2008, 12:37:56 am »
and why would you think he would be sexually jealous? did William have an affair with someone??

Takei wrote an autobiography about 15 years ago and he just unleashes on Shatner. my thought about Takei stems from the fact that he is a gay man. so, I have wondered if there was jealousy at many different levels on TOS

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« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2008, 12:41:06 am »
Takei wrote an autobiography about 15 years ago and he just unleashes on Shatner. my thought about Takei stems from the fact that he is a gay man. so, I have wondered if there was jealousy at many different levels on TOS

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hmmmmm....I need to get that book. I kinda thought that George was unhappy with the way William made fun of the conventions and all..George went to a lot of them...made a lot of money doing them too.

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« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2008, 12:48:43 am »
like I say the jealously may be at many different levels. the fellow who played Scotty, I forgot his name, also unleashed on Shatner in the years before he died.

the only one who seemed to get along with everyone was DeForest Kelly.

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« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2008, 12:51:36 am »
like I say the jealously may be at many different levels. the fellow who played Scotty, I forgot his name, also unleashed on Shatner in the years before he died.

the only one who seemed to get along with everyone was DeForest Kelly.

James Doohan...

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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2008, 12:59:55 am »
Everybody disliked Bill Shatner, just in varying degrees. 

I'm not sure - can't recall - if Nichelle meant "affair" as in with Gene as a married man, or just 'love affair' as in before he was married.


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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2008, 01:03:05 am »
James Doohan...

yep thats right, Doohan had some "sharp" opines about Shatner!

one of the funny things about the movie "Generations" is that Stewart and Shatner got along like long lost buds! They really are friends. You would think that Shatner would resent Stewart taking his place.

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« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2008, 01:10:09 am »
Everybody disliked Bill Shatner, just in varying degrees. 

I'm not sure - can't recall - if Nichelle meant "affair" as in with Gene as a married man, or just 'love affair' as in before he was married.



but maybe Shatner is mellowing, because they love him on Boston Legal, one of my Fav tv shows, I let DL TIVO it for me and I watch them later.

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« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2008, 01:18:41 am »
but maybe Shatner is mellowing, because they love him on Boston Legal, one of my Fav tv shows, I let DL TIVO it for me and I watch them later.

I believe they disliked him - mostly - because he was a ham, he hogged the spotlight, he demanded all the attention be put on him, he actively sought to cut others' lines so as to give himself more dialogue, that kind of thing.

There was a recent History Channel special in the last year and it kinds of hints at his ego issues.  It was about Star Trek technology becoming a reality and Bill Shatner was the host.  And for the commercial plugs, it was him saying,

"It was me me me - I did all these things..."

I'm sure he's mellowed because he's not the draw he once was.  I do congratulate him, though.  Somehow, he's made himself a 2nd career late in life as a writer, on TV and films portraying himself and as a character actor and I'm sure that also chapped some asses even worse.
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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2008, 12:50:20 pm »
what is up with him and that other guy? the one he is always sitting in the chairs with smoking a cigar and talking about 'sleepovers"??

There is the implication that opposites attract, so to speak. There is clearly a love relationship between the two lawyers, one a conservative repub, the other a lefty democrat. neither will openly admit that they love each other in that way, but they do. one of the reasons I love Boston Legal is watching how this relationship develops.

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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2008, 12:54:52 pm »
I believe they disliked him - mostly - because he was a ham, he hogged the spotlight, he demanded all the attention be put on him, he actively sought to cut others' lines so as to give himself more dialogue, that kind of thing.

There was a recent History Channel special in the last year and it kinds of hints at his ego issues.  It was about Star Trek technology becoming a reality and Bill Shatner was the host.  And for the commercial plugs, it was him saying,

"It was me me me - I did all these things..."

I'm sure he's mellowed because he's not the draw he once was.  I do congratulate him, though.  Somehow, he's made himself a 2nd career late in life as a writer, on TV and films portraying himself and as a character actor and I'm sure that also chapped some asses even worse.

One of the loveable things about Shatner is he parodies himself. In many ways the dislike of Shatner by some of the other TOS actors is a reflection on themselves, everyone knows that Shatner is a ham, so what?  He made that show a success along with Nimoy.

I especially see a lot of brittle "sour grapes" in Takei, he impresses me as someone who is as full of himself as Shatner, with none of Shatners' sense of humor and rogueish charm.

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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2008, 12:05:15 am »
She has been showing up in Heroes, as has George Takei.

Do you remember Walter Koenig playing Bester in Babylon 5?  I loved him in that role.




yes the Bester role is very interesting, especially the idea of the Psi police, a concept that is good to go for lots of scifi.

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« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2008, 12:13:51 am »
well, I was trying to be clever and put a picture at the bottom, and it all got FUBARed.

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2008, 12:34:36 am »
I'll PM you, its one of my dad's WWII era expressions.

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« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2008, 04:39:42 pm »
http://www.accesshollywood.com/star-trek-creators-widow-passes-away_article_12706

Star Trek Creator's Widow Majel Barret Roddenberry passes away at the age of 76.

Star Trek fans will recognize Majel Barret Roddenberry as the characters "Number One" (from the original series pilot), the voice of the Enterprise computer, Nurse Chapel, and as Lwaxana Troi in ST:NG. 
Former IMDb Name: True Oracle of Phoenix / TOoP (I pronounce it "too - op") / " in fire forged,  from ash reborn" / Currently: GeorgeObliqueStrokeXR40

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« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2008, 10:36:58 pm »

May she rest well and take pride in her accomplishments and participation in one of the greatest series of morality tales of the 20-21st century and as long as there is celluloid, she will live forever...

RIP Majel Barrett  :(

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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2008, 08:41:57 am »
awww..

 :-\ :-\

dang I be feeling old...guess there really WON"T be anymore movies with the ol crew...

I just read that Majel Barrett Roddenberry finished all of her post-production work for the new JJ Abrams Star Trek movie two weeks ago.  (Once again, she returns as the voice of the Enterprise computer!)
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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2008, 06:00:50 pm »
RIP Majel

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« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2008, 12:31:19 am »

(A fan's mash-up between Star Trek's The Trouble with Tribbles and the late American artist Edward Gorey)

http://shaenon.livejournal.com/48834.html?style=mine#cutid1







Take a look at that first paragraph.





Alas, for what might have been!


















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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2008, 04:14:16 am »



Alas, for what might have been!




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"Now we're talkin'!"

This is the kind of demented work that really gets my attention.

Seriously!

Seriously demented...
 :laugh:

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Re: We're Talking Star Trek!!
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2008, 12:48:02 am »

Whoever did that Gorey parody is brilliant!  ;D


I'm so sorry to hear about Majel Barrett's passing.  I wonder if she'll have her ashes sent up into orbit like Gene Roddenberry's were.
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