Author Topic: Mrs. Dalloway  (Read 10549 times)

Offline Brown Eyes

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Mrs. Dalloway
« on: January 02, 2010, 12:23:34 am »
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I'm starting this thread as a result of a discussion that came up amongst some Brokies on Facebook a few weeks back.  We were thinking it would be fun to watch the movie of Mrs. Dalloway together, but decided a chat wouldn't really work during the hectic holiday season.  So, this thread is for people to watch and comment on the movie (or the book) at their leisure.

For those unfamiliar with the story, it's the story of one day in June of 1923 through the perspective of several characters, and through the perspective of Clarissa Dalloway primarily.  Through memories sparked throughout the day we learn a great deal about the past lives of various characters.

The film was made by director Marleen Gorris (the director of Antonia's Line... another really interesting movie) in 1997 and stars Vanessa Redgrave as the older Clarissa Dalloway and Natascha McElhone as the younger Clarissa. Rupert Graves (of Scudder fame from the movie Maurice) is also in Mrs. Dalloway as a disturbed young veteran of WWI.  Of course, the movie is based on Virginia Woolf's novel Mrs. Dalloway, published in 1925.

I'll refrain from commenting in this inital post, other than to say Viginia Woolf is one of my favorite writers (and I'm also particularly interested in the Bloomsbury Group in general).  And, this is my favorite book by Woolf.  I was astounded when I heard that they'd made it into a movie in the 1990s because it's such a complex book (written in such a complex way)... it seemed to me that it would be a tremendously difficult task to translate the book into a film.  But, I think they ultimately did a lovely, thoughtful job with this film.  

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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 03:06:53 am »
I guess it's time for me to watch it.  Netflix has it streaming, I'm happy to see.

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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 07:38:46 am »
The film was made by director Marleen Gorris (the director of Antonia's Line... another really interesting movie)


I apologize for taking the thread OT for a moment, but I wanted to say that I'm happy to see your comment about Antonia's Line. LOVED that movie. I always thought Jens and me are the only persons in the world who saw it ....  ;).
Oh, I have an idea - I'll post a picture of Antonia in the Strong Gorgeous Women thread, then you can reply there if you want, and we won't take this thread further ot.


Back to Mrs. Dalloway!

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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2010, 07:53:35 am »
I have yet to see the movie. I started reading the novel but didn´t finish it. I also remember that I started on To the Lighthouse, but not finishing that one either  O0. The one book by Woolf´s that I actually did finish was A Room of One´s Own, which is more of a long essay than a novel. It was interesting and the topic still felt immediate. But she has a tendency to make the same point over and over again and I found it to be a somewhat tedious read. I find Virginia Woolf herself far more interesting than her work.
I would be interested in seeing the movie though. Perhaps I´d like the movie versions of her novels better.

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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2010, 09:55:36 am »
Amanda, I have the film on tape and watch it two or three times a year.  Vanessa and Natasha, both, are so stunningly beautiful.  It's a very intriguing movie with complicated scenarios.  For those here who haven't seen it, you definitely need to watch it more than once to begin to understand.

Kind of like some other movie we all know...


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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2010, 01:50:26 pm »
Thanks for the comments Buds!  And, Mandy, I'm happy to hear that you like the movie so well too!  :D  I agree that like BBM, multiple viewings are a good idea.  Both movies are good upon first viewing, but after multiple viewings you notice more details and begin to see underlying themes, etc. better.  Also, like BBM- it can be a really tough film to watch in that some of the themes are really sad or brutal. The overall narrative seems to be a combination of the really-lovely with jabs of sadness and sometimes unexpected brutality.  The intersection of the Septimus (Rupert Graves) narrative with Clarissa Dalloway's is unexpectedly sad.  It also seems to be a lot about the fleetingness of moments of happiness and learning how to recognize happiness and opportunities when they come up... to me these themes - fleeting happiness and opportunities taken or lost resonate a lot with BBM.  The theme of short moments of happiness seems to be really foregrounded in the movie The Hours (also based on Mrs. Dalloway).

And, Monika, I do recommend seeing the movie even if you couldn't get through the book... the movie, I think, is very helpful in making the narrative and the chronology of events in the book clear.  Woolf's stream of consciousness writing style can be extremely confusing.  Having just re-read the book the other week... my main observation is that it's almost better to approach the book as if it's a kind of poetry.  So much of the book is driven by characters' inner thoughts/interior monologues as part of Woolf's interest in expressing of how thought processes happen throughout a person's day. It was really hard for me to imagine how they'd make it into a movie.  The exercise of Mrs. Dalloway really is so interesting.. trying to really trace how memories and sometimes almost random associations are triggered by encountering certain things throughout one's day... and how one thought can lead to something unexpected and non-linear sometimes.  The really difficult stream of consciousness writing style I think was a really smart style to use to try to express/emulate the complexity of how thought processes happen.

Woolf's command of language is so subtle and complex (there really isn't any other term that comes to mind but complex)... I think that she's one of the hardest 20th century writers to read.  But, I totally love her... once you get into the rhythm of her writing it's really lovely and hugely profound.  Virginia's nephew Quentin Bell (the son of her sister Vanessa Bell... I wrote my undergraduate thesis about Vanessa Bell and Duncan Grant... the two main painters in the Bloomsbury group) once said that A Room of One's Own is an example of Virginia "speaking" and her novels like Mrs. Dalloway are examples of Virginia "thinking" (I think he means her introspective thoughts vs. her public persona or way of expressing herself more conversationally).  Yes, A Room of One's Own was written originally as a lecture and is one of her extended polemical feminist essays, like her longer book Three Guineas.  She also wrote interesting literary/political essays like "Mr. Bennett and Mrs. Brown."  But, her writing like that is so different in style from the novels.
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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 12:04:57 am »
Hey Bud Amanda!  I'm going to watch it again right now, so that I can comment more clearly on your points.  Hopefully, we'll get others interested as well.  Thanks for bringing up a fresh topic!
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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 12:39:16 am »
Oh, I would like to join in the discussion. I'll hunt for Mrs. Dalloway, the movie. Another movie based on a Virginia Wolf novel that I really like is Orlando. I usually try to watch it every New Year's Eve.
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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 03:09:29 pm »
Heya Lee or Mandy!  Have you had a chance to watch Mrs. Dalloway yet?  I may watch it again this week... and I'm definitely planning on watching Maurice this week.  I may watch Maurice tonight or tomorrow night actually.

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Re: Mrs. Dalloway
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 03:26:31 pm »
I haven't seen it yet. I'm headed out right now and will swing by the videotique!
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