Author Topic: Was Ennis telling a "boldfaced lie"?  (Read 9073 times)

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Re: Was Ennis telling a "boldfaced lie"?
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2010, 03:46:00 pm »

Sonja, for some weird reason, in that scene, Heath sounds very Australian in spots, and the word "girls" is the strongest example.  To me, it's so strong that I am surprised they left it in the movie.  It doesn't fit with his mostly impeccable accent in the rest of the film.



Thanks for explaining, Clarissa.

For obvious reasons I've never noticed it.

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Re: Was Ennis telling a "boldfaced lie"?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2010, 03:54:25 pm »

Not sure how well this will translate, but here goes: What Heath says in that scene might be spelled "guhls" or "gihls" or even "gulls" in an American accent. But what a Wyoming accent would sound and be spelled like is more like "grrrls" or "garhls" with a harder R. Does that make sense?

Thanks, SC.
Yes, it does make sence, but I have to go back to the movie and listen to it in order to really understand it.
But now I know what to listen for.


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Re: Was Ennis telling a "boldfaced lie"?
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2010, 02:41:23 pm »
The Tom Benz interview can also be found on Finding Brokeback but that version lacks the "boldfaced lie"  passage. I wrote to Jim Bond, one of the board's founders about this discrepancy and this is what he said in reply:

Yes, Rob Freemen did the 2006 Benz interview and posted it on his Brokeback
Truck website. It contains a lot of great material and it was a wonderful
addition to the FB site. Before he met Tom Benz, Rob solicited questions
from members of the Cullen community. As you would expect, some were great
questions, others extended well beyond Benz's areas of responsibility and
expertise. Some contained fan opinions that are unsupported by the record.

We cut the interview questions that were obviously outside of Benz's area or
that where potentially misleading. The people who agreed to interviews were
very good to cooperate with us and they tried hard to remember what happened
years ago when they made the film, but their memories are imperfect. We saw
no reason to embarrass them and to potentially mislead others by publishing
their errors.

Benz did not have any role in editing or marketing the film, the grocery
story scene preceded the postcard scene (as it does in all of the scripts -
there was no collusion with Jack at this point), it was not shot in
Carstairs, etc. Hence our deletion of these questions and answers.

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Re: Was Ennis telling a "boldfaced lie"?
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2010, 03:42:56 pm »
The Tom Benz interview can also be found on Finding Brokeback but that version lacks the "boldfaced lie"  passage. I wrote to Jim Bond, one of the board's founders about this discrepancy and this is what he said in reply:

Yes, Rob Freemen did the 2006 Benz interview and posted it on his Brokeback
Truck website. It contains a lot of great material and it was a wonderful
addition to the FB site. Before he met Tom Benz, Rob solicited questions
from members of the Cullen community. As you would expect, some were great
questions, others extended well beyond Benz's areas of responsibility and
expertise. Some contained fan opinions that are unsupported by the record.

We cut the interview questions that were obviously outside of Benz's area or
that where potentially misleading. The people who agreed to interviews were
very good to cooperate with us and they tried hard to remember what happened
years ago when they made the film, but their memories are imperfect. We saw
no reason to embarrass them and to potentially mislead others by publishing
their errors.

Benz did not have any role in editing or marketing the film, the grocery
story scene preceded the postcard scene (as it does in all of the scripts -
there was no collusion with Jack at this point), it was not shot in
Carstairs, etc. Hence our deletion of these questions and answers.
Chowhound - thanks for the excellent detective work!

I think Jim and the FB crew made the right decision.