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Offline Daniel

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It's back.... with a vengeance.
« on: April 12, 2006, 11:26:18 pm »
For those of you who remember my momentary relapse with a particular obsession from the original PT board, and my supposed defeat of that obsession, it has returned.... more strongly than ever.

I'm not certain what I'm supposed to do. I mean, this is rediculous. I can't live out the rest of my life pining excessively for a person who will probably never even realize that I exist. I was told by a spiritual advisor to share my feelings with my friends, and you all are probably the closest resemblance to that that I have right now. I have shared more with you than I have anyone else and I am extremely grateful for your already great support and loving kindnesses.

So anyway, here goes. I am going to share my feelings, completely, irrevocably, without holding back anything, so that you all might understand me and hopefully offer healing words of advice. The traditional words of wisdom of the Beatles "Let it be." isn't exactly working right now, and I have done everything that was originally suggested: maintained a physically active lifestyle, eaten more fruits and vegetables, staying away from artificial foods with preservatives and sweeteners, and while this has helped me feel physically better, I am emotionally, mentally, and spiritually reeling.

Anyway, here are my feelings, and they are all centered on a particular person (whom I do not even know personally but feel like I do for some reason).
This is probably going to get a little poetic, but please don't consider the words as poetry, I'm trying to say something here.

If you could enter my being, the first thing that you would become aware of would be an intensely beautiful, ecstatic pain in the chest region. It feels almost like your lungs have collapsed so that every breath you breathe in is like a little piece of heaven. Breathing out is excessively painful in a sickening way.

From time to time, tingling courses down the arms and legs, shooting to the toes and fingertips. This tingling is not painful, but somewhere on the border of ecstatic and uncomfortable.

Now, that is the normal state of affairs, without any particular thinking or course of emotional expectation. You can imagine the experiences and feelings I go through when I think about a particular person: Jake Gyllenhaal. Even typing his name causes my body to melt. It is an indefinable experience, but it is as though every muscle in the body relaxes but remains at a state of high alertness. This experience generates a body-length ache that is eased sometimes by walking and moving about, but ultimately such movement is floating in a cloud of pain.

So, generally, a burning, tingling, ache defines my daily existance. Focusing upon the cause of these sensations: his image, his voice enhances the experience 100-fold. The pain becomes sharp and stabbing. And believe me when I tell you that I have no interest in being stabbed in the heart, because I think I know what it will feel like (at least in the few seconds before it stops working completely). The experience of euphoric ecstasy is also enhanced 100-fold. So I stand here, thinking about a particular person, breathing in heaven and breathing out hell.

The sad thing is, there is a part of me that is enjoying this experience. There is also a part of me that seems to think this experience is abnormal, unnecessary, and unwanted. For one thing, the experience of pain is keeping me from many things I want to do, despite how enjoyable it is.

And so the mind creates the object of obsession. Hallucinations, dreams, nightmares, false memories all centering upon you-know-who. Pretense of being with him eases a great deal of the pain and pressure within the chest. Seeing his image physically allows somewhat normal breathing though the pain is still present.

In other words, I'm a complete mess, and I probably need help. I'm loathe to seek psychiatric assistance because I do not like the drugs they give me. They numb the mind and only partially work on the pain. And besides, ultimately, I think the pain has meaning. There is something going on within the self that is trying to resolve, and I want very much for that resolution to occur.
Why do we consume what we consume?
Why do we believe what we believe?
Why do we accept what we accept?
You have a body, a mind, and a soul.... You have a responsibility.

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Re: It's back.... with a vengeance.
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2006, 11:45:44 pm »
Hi Daniel.

     Ah, the torture of obsession.   We have all been there to some degree.   I too have had those hurtful yearnings.   But eventually I had to face the reality that this guy was unobtainable and  being around him only hurt me further.    There is no easy answer.    All you can do is try to occupy yourself with other interests and close friends.

Will the longing ever go away?    Beats the hell out of me.   I think we all carry the memory of someone special with us forever.    The only thing you need to worry about is separating reality from fantasy.   Fantasy is great, but only if you control it, not if it controls you.

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Re: It's back.... with a vengeance.
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2006, 11:53:52 pm »
I realize that, and that is one of the things that helped me get over this same obsession the last time I had it. I thought it had gone away, for good. And it came back, worse than ever.

In particular the reading of "Love's Executioner" was extremely helpful that one time. And I remember breaking down into tears when Dr. Yalom told his patient "But he never loved you to begin with." I am continually telling myself that. But there is some part of me that is replying, "There's nothing to prevent him from starting now."

Is this fantasy? I don't think so, its not as prominent in the mind as fantasy. It is very subtle, very appealing, and I am having great difficulty resisting it. It is the same subtle voice from which springs my poetry, and I have enjoyed listening to it in the past. Why should this be any different? Because of its nigh impossibility?

If it feels like I am arguing with you, then perhaps I am trying to play devil's advocate. I am playing with ideas here, finding the ones that make the most sense, learning to live with myself again.
Why do we consume what we consume?
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Why do we accept what we accept?
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Re: It's back.... with a vengeance.
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2006, 11:57:18 pm »
Talking about this kinda stuff is the best thing to do.   And you have plenty of ears to bend and shoulders to lean on here.    :)

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2006, 12:03:19 am »
Well, my "Brokeback Mountain" DVD arrived today. Stupid me, I actually opened the cardboard box... I forgot "he" was on the cover.

As I felt the pain well up, I immediately shuffled the DVD with the other product I had brought and began rummaging through its pages.

Wrong thing to do. Enchanted Love: The Mystical Power of Intimate Relationships is not helpful in this scenario.

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Why do we accept what we accept?
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2006, 12:17:02 am »
In case no one noticed it, that was a sore attempt at humor.
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Re: It's back.... with a vengeance.
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2006, 12:29:13 am »

*sniff*

I'm here with ya, bud.

*hugs*
Chut up!

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2006, 12:38:23 am »
Thanks... I could use as many hugs as possible right now.

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I would like to apologize to everyone either here or on the PT boards that I have accidentally hurt, misled, or emotionally confused. I have never intended anyone harm and if anything I have posted has caused harm, I would like to apologize, right here and now.

I realize how precious our community is, how important your friendship is to me, and I want to make certain I don't do anything to jeopardize it. So if I have hurt you in some way in the past let me know and I will reconcile if I can.

As I have said before, several times. I am completely insane (doesn't this obsession prove it?), and if what I am saying somehow grates against your nerves, its probably not you, its probably me.

But I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate being able to share myself with you. All of you. It really is quite meaningful.
Why do we consume what we consume?
Why do we believe what we believe?
Why do we accept what we accept?
You have a body, a mind, and a soul.... You have a responsibility.

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Re: It's back.... with a vengeance.
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2006, 12:41:14 am »
Jesus, Daniel, reading your post, the way you wrote it, I could fall in love with him too, just from empathising.

Do you think that staying away from anything Jake Gyllenhaal for a while would help? Or is it an impossible thing to do?

I always thought talking is great therapy, so share away, hon. We're listening.

I so wish I could give you a real hug...

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Re: It's back.... with a vengeance.
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2006, 12:42:36 am »
Post away Daniel...musings are often the most beneficial form of self awareness and you never know when your thoughts might touch another life outside your own.  ;)  ::hugs::  I have to say that poem you seen me with the anagram is even more poignant now!