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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #150 on: August 02, 2018, 07:15:19 pm »
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Can you blame me for getting Sleeping Beauty and Snow White mixed up? The stories are so similar!!





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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #151 on: August 03, 2018, 10:36:20 am »
The Hollywood practice of ignoring a vast gap in a straight couple's ages when the older person is a man all but ruined a movie I would otherwise have liked.

That was Crazy Heart, in which Jeff Bridges, now 68, gets romantically involved with Maggie Gyllenhaal, now 40. Subtract 9 years to see what their ages were at the time.

Their age difference -- which nobody in the film so much as comments on, as I recall -- is bad enough. But what made it worse was that before he meets her he is shown hanging around with -- gasp! -- women his own age. His main problem -- and the main problem in his relationship with Maggie -- is that he's an alcoholic. But to show how low this washed-up has-been has fallen, he sleeps with a woman played by Beth Grant, an actress born the same year Jeff Bridges was. (YMMV, but I felt it was a pretty strong subtext.)

Maggie comes along -- the most timid and naive 30-something "journalist" ever; she wanted to write about him but had to have her uncle or somebody ask if he'd see her. And she's a huge fan and acts worshipful around him. So even though technically she should have been fairly mature, the script made her seem even younger than she actually was.

I'm not saying this could never happen in real life. It's just that movies frequently follow this pattern, whereas it's hard to imagine them making the same exact movie except that the woman musician is about 60 and the adoring man is about 30 and then act like age isn't even an issue. Though if they did, I would watch it! Again, I'm not saying age would necessarily have to be a big deal, I'm just saying that's not how movies work.

Other than that, I liked the movie. I like both Jeff and Maggie! The music was excellent! Colin Farrell played a country singer! The actual country singer who wrote the theme song has the same name as George Clooney's character in Up in the Air, which came out the same year.

But it also felt misogynistic or at least sexist/ageist, and that kind of wrecked it.







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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #152 on: August 03, 2018, 11:51:02 am »
I totally agree with you, Katherine, about Crazy Heart. They ridiculed Beth Grant essentially for being her age.

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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #153 on: August 03, 2018, 02:29:48 pm »
Thanks, Paul.

Woman is a) 50ish and b) not especially hot (at least in the movie) = man is a loser.

It's a message I'm sure our president would approve.


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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #154 on: August 03, 2018, 02:36:53 pm »
The one hypothetical movie pairing I would find a bit icky is one Dellaluvia mentioned years ago (meaning, I'm sure I've already told this story 14 times now).

She thought it would be a good idea to cast Jake and Maggie Gyllenhaal as lovers. With yeah, scenes of actual sexual activity.

I contended that no director would do that. She insisted they would because it would go over big in the consensual incestuous sibling community. Which, she feels, is pretty big.



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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #155 on: August 05, 2018, 10:10:10 pm »
ewwwwwwwwwwwwh, that sounds gross!

I can't imagine anyone going to see that.


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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #156 on: August 06, 2018, 10:06:44 am »
ewwwwwwwwwwwwh, that sounds gross!

I can't imagine anyone going to see that.

That's what I told Dellaluvia!  :laugh:

I said nobody would make that movie. Not Jake and Maggie, not the director, not the producers. Nobody would finance it. It's not just something people aren't interested in, it's something that actively grosses them out.

But Dellaluvia isn't one to back down from a disagreement! She insisted there's a big thriving community of consensual incestuous siblings who would flock to it.

I've never heard of such a thing. Although I'll admit, in recent years I've come to recognize there are all kinds of people out there I normally don't hear about, so ...

I would google sibling porn or something to see if there's any out there but I don't want to besmirch my computer. Of course, if there are people out there doing that, I don't care. It's none of my business. They're 19, they can do what they want. Except make a movie with A-list siblings playing lovers.




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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #157 on: August 06, 2018, 07:16:03 pm »
I can remember seeing one of the Brady Bunch movies, and they did a thing where Greg and Marcia were suddenly becoming attracted to each other.

There were certain scenes that they did, and I remember the audience going "Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww", and they weren't really brother and sister.


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'Voulez-vous, will you kiss my dick?'
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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #158 on: August 07, 2018, 10:16:37 am »
That does strike me a gross! I think there's a visceral reaction against incestuous relationships between step-siblings if you've seen them grow up together as essentially siblings.

I do know someone IRL who married her step-brother. But their parents married each other when they were in their 50s or 60s and the kids were adults by then. So that didn't seem gross.

And when step-siblings Gwyneth Paltrow and Luke Wilson get together on The Royal Tenenbaums, it's not particularly gross, mainly because again we didn't see them growing up together. Plus everybody in the family is weird and quirky.

Also, it led to one of my favorite lines of all time. Luke Wilson confesses the relationship to his dad, Gene Hackman, and asks if he thinks it's wrong.

Gene Hackman thinks for a bit. "Well, it is frowned upon ..." Pause. "But what isn't these days?" he says merrily.



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Re: Top Favorite Films!
« Reply #159 on: August 07, 2018, 10:23:31 am »
Speaking of the Brady Bunch, not long ago I read a piece on Slate arguing that Carol and Mike Brady, who as you recall were both widowed, murdered their former spouses.

The writer presented "evidence" from the show. The piece was tongue in cheek, but one piece of evidence was pretty compelling: Nobody in the show ever mentions the dead spouses. Not the parents, and weirder still, not the kids.

Some if not all, of the kids are easily old enough to remember their late father or mother, so inevitably IRL they would refer to them now and then.

I guess that's not really evidence of murder, unless the kids were all in on the crime, but still, it's weird.