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delalluvia:

--- Quote from: azphil on May 13, 2006, 07:53:55 pm ---but as concerns Ennis' visit to Lightning Flat, I don't think he'd of let any grass (er, make that tumbleweed) grow under his feet after his phonecon with Lureen.  He'd have wanted to make sure that he quickly got to the parents before they'd taken any final action with Jack's cremated remains.
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Good point azphil.  Is that Arizona lover or Philip of Arizona or something else? :)

TJ:
Using the original short story as part of my argument here, since Ennis Del Mar was still working at the Stoutamire Ranch when he called Lureen and the fact that because as he got older, Ennis seems to have become more stable in his work ethic. That's partly why Ennis said that meeting in May was a trade off for August which might have been in Jack's and Ennis's original plans to meet both in May and in August.

IMO, Ennis does not seem to be the type to suddenly drop something and rush off. And, the only time that he suddenly did that was at the reunion in 1967. He was only supposed to take one day off in June 1967, the 24th, from his highway crew job to meet Jack. Ennis was working on a ranch on weekends at the time, too.

Oh, Ennis did get easy-to-quit jobs that he could leave if Jack agreed to meet him somewhere; but, those meetings still had to be planned ahead of time.

silkncense:
TJ -

I am totally confused by your post:
--- Quote --- IMO, the "this spring" does not refer to the spring month that Ennis last saw Jack, it refers to the spring in the current year.
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Ennis sent Jack a postcard for November of the year they were at the lake (in the spring).  It was returned 'deceased'  How could it be the following spring that his father is speaking about?  Am I confused, or are you?

Also, I think Jack mentioned the "ranch neighbor' not as something real or something that would  "ever come to pass."  It was said from pain & self defense.  He wasn't going to keep saying "Ennis" - it may have been his father even chided him about all the years he & Ennis failed to come up. 

TJ:
IN THE BOOK, Jack mentioned the wife of a Texas rancher and the rancher only one time.

If we think that the rancher neighbor that Mr. Twist is talking about, when Ennis goes up to Lightning Flat, is the very same rancher, then our "argument/idea comes from silence," which means we are guessing that.

IMOEO (in my over-educated opinion) as a person who has taken two college course in literary criticism, "Cassie and LaShawn and Randall" never existed.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: silkncense on May 13, 2006, 09:40:14 pm ---Also, I think Jack mentioned the "ranch neighbor' not as something real or something that would  "ever come to pass."  It was said from pain & self defense.  He wasn't going to keep saying "Ennis" - it may have been his father even chided him about all the years he & Ennis failed to come up. 

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Silk, you don't thinking the ranch neighbor was a reference to Randall? Realistic or not, I've always assumed that meant that Jack had given up on Ennis and turned to Randall as a potential co-rancher.

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