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Clyde-B:
--- Quote from: LauraGigs on May 24, 2008, 11:52:58 am ---Kaiser, what I meant by 'antiquated' was the idea that choice for women should be rolled back. And yes, there are many restrictions on abortion depending on where you live (3rd- or 2nd-trimester bans, parental consent requirements, 'cooling-off' periods, etc.)
I don't think I have to tell you that if it were men and boys getting pregnant, the law wouldn't be talking down to them the way it historically has to women. (A comedian once said that if men needed abortions, there would be clinics all over with scantily-dressed nurses cooing, "local or general?") On the serious side, though, whether or not to have an abortion is an extremely weighty, serious decision and I don't know that I could ever do that. What I question is who has a right to legislate on the issue and make that decision for everyone.
Any classical small-government conservative (who also questions the right to legislate against gun ownership) should be able to relate to that.
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Amen to that!
Shasta542:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on May 23, 2008, 07:43:41 pm ---Clearly, we are not living in the same country. Unlimited choices for women have been overwhelmingly guaranteed since RoevWade. So, the statement that choices are lacking for women relative to child bearing and abortion reflects a gross unawareness of the current legal choices available.
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As well as the almost unlimited choices of birth control that are available in lieu of ending life.
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on May 23, 2008, 07:43:41 pm ---Clearly, we are not living in the same country. Unlimited choices for women have been overwhelmingly guaranteed since RoevWade. So, the statement that choices are lacking for women relative to child bearing and abortion reflects a gross unawareness of the current legal choices available.
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There ya go, Herr K. -- that's just what we women need; a man to tell us about our "unlimited choices", and don't let anyone tell ya you didn't get into specifics.
Why, it's a miracle that single straight women and lesbians even know how to wipe their own butts.
Shasta542:
Well, I'm a woman, and I think there are many choices besides abortion.
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: Shasta542 on May 24, 2008, 01:43:46 pm ---Well, I'm a woman, and I think there are many choices besides abortion.
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"Many" implies more than two. What are the additions to (1) having the baby and keeping it or (2) having it adopted? And if you check Door Number 2, you'd better hope the baby doesn't have any special needs and isn't a minority race.
Oh, wait! I just thought of a third popular one: leave the baby in a public restroom or dumpster. Of course, the infant usually dies but hey, at least the woman didn't have an abortion.
I'm still waiting for that list of the vast number of birth control choices. Can't you name at least the first 20?
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