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My sexual orientation and my positions on gay rights
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on September 23, 2008, 10:59:11 pm ---treasure the moment, I'll meet you over in Jess's virtual "cooling off" bar she has set up. I think she mixed up a pitcher of martinis just for me.
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I've been there a couple of times already. A martini sounds great. Gin or vodka?
David In Indy:
A good friend of mine posted this over at a different forum. I thought it was very powerful and well written so I'd like share it with the rest of you....
The Ballot issue in California in November is Proposition 8 and they have been running the most elegant creative and astute commericial all summer. It actually features a straight couple, it opens showing a beautiful young bride preparing for her wedding, perfect hair, perfect makeup, flowers, long white gown...she is the picture of loveliness. Then she takes her fathers arm and moves to exit the house to meet her groom. In the garden the guests are gathered, the groom and Best Man wait under the gazebo. But with every step our bride takes she meets some misfortune, her veil is snagged on a tree, someone trips her and tears her gown and as she falls to the ground her beloved groom is prevented by the best man from going to her to offer his assistance, his support and his love. Then we get the voice over "What if someone wanted to prevent you from marrying the person you love? Vote No on Prop 8 Equal Rights for all Americans" It really is a canny bit of political advertising.
Reminds me of the summation in John Grisham's novel & film "A Time To Kill" about a black man being tried for killing the two white men who raped and attempted to murder his 12 year old daughter. In Grisham's work the defense attorney faces the seemly insurmountable job of getting a black man a fair trial in the south and as he sums up the defense of his client for the all white jury. He tells the jury to close their eyes and picture her as he chronicles the heinous things the little girl suffered at the hands of these brutal men and as he gets to the end of his horrible recitation he asks them "can you see her?, can you SEE her? Now imagine she's white"
Powerful stuff Gay Marriage is a civil rights issue. Too many right wing fundamentalists want to forget that we have separation of Church and State in this country. The issue is not about Marriage as sanctioned by any Church. Civil Marriage is a right in this country and it is a right that should be extended to all Americans equally.
You can't legislate equality or morality but you can legislate civil rights and the times they are a changin and I don't know what will happen in November but you can't unring the bell and Gay Marriage is coming like or it or not.
pnwDUDE:
I think it all boils down to this:
Would you support repealing DOM?
I, for one, would.
Would you vote for an amendment to your state constitution that would allow same sex marriages and equal rights for same-sex married couples as hetro couples.
I, for one, would.
Would you support an act by Congress similar to DOM that would, instead, guarantee equal rights for same sex married partners as hetro married partners.
I, for one, would.
I believe one needs to get those here who appear to not agree with same-sex marriage to answer 'no' to one of the above questions. Only at that point would he or she be against 'gay' marriage. Just because he or she may see it from another angle, I don't think it is necessarily homophobia. I believe homophobia is tossed around too loosely in the context of this discussion. Very similar to how 'racist' is tossed around in other discussions.
My point is this. If I can't be called 'married' because those who make law and/or the majority in this country don't want me and Steve to be called 'married' similar to our friends Cory and Brianna, who are married, just give me equal rights. I agree with Brokeplex, that in the very near future all this discussion will be a moot point, but until then, I would sit by just fine being treated equal under the law.
Brad
MountainMan:
I'm a straight male.
I'm for lgbt rights because I believe in equality. I support same-sex marriage because I believe in love.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: atz75 on September 23, 2008, 11:01:13 pm ---There's clearly something very threatening about the word "marriage" (the word in and of itself) being extended to gay people from the traditionalist perspective, as we've seen articulated throughout this thread.
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That's it, Amanda. Gay marriage is a threat to heterosexist privilege and dominance.
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