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MaineWriter:

--- Quote from: Katie77 on May 07, 2009, 10:03:35 pm ---
I was pissed off with her the first time I read her bloody story......120 fucking pages......120....if it wasnt for McMurtry, Ossama, Ang, Heath and Jake it would still be tomorrows fish and chip wrappings.

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Not sure what you are talking about? Brokeback Mountain by Annie Proulx is about 10,000 words. At 500 words/pg (in a word processor) with standard margins and spacing, that's about 20 pages. What version of BBM did you read that was 120 pages long?

L

Katie77:

--- Quote from: MaineWriter on May 07, 2009, 10:29:20 pm ---
Not sure what you are talking about? Brokeback Mountain by Annie Proulx is about 10,000 words. At 500 words/pg (in a word processor) with standard margins and spacing, that's about 20 pages. What version of BBM did you read that was 120 pages long?

L

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I kept thinking it was 20, but as I wrote that, I thought, NO it had to be 120.......OK.....20 f**king pages....thats even worse......if she got so "into the characters" why didn't she write more.......I've seen many fan fic longer than 20 pages.

Katie77:

--- Quote from: Jeff  Wrangler on May 07, 2009, 10:26:14 pm ---Well, I hope you're enjoying wallowing in your anger. Whether you like her or not, without her there would have been no film--that's a fact no one can escape whether they like Annie Proulx or despise her.

And no, "Brokeback Mountain" was a prize-winning short story long before Ang Lee, etc., came along. So it would not have been tomorrow's fish and chips wrappings.

I have no idea what you're referring to by "120 fucking pages," so let be, let be.

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I'm not angry Jeff, I guess I just dont like the lady or her comments relating to BBM.

I do owe her something.....you are right....she did write the original story.

I've said enuf........

pnwDUDE:

--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on May 07, 2009, 01:33:51 pm --- I don't know much about fanfiction, but it seems like the quality of the writing is in inverse proportion to the [bold] need of the author to be praised for his/her work.[/bold]  That's the thing that alarms me about the genre, so I stopped reading any and all fanfiction because, once some of the authors knew I had read part of their work, they pestered me for feedback, and only the most positive and gushing feedback would do. I'm a professional writer, so giving honest feedback was impossible. I imagine AP got caught in the same, or similar boat.
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--- Quote from: Ellemeno on May 07, 2009, 03:11:12 am --- And I'm guessing she's wrong about the gender of many of the fan fiction writers she's referring to, just based on what seems like an overwhelming majority that I know of being women.
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Sometime ago, I opined most slash was about the authors and not about the story or the characters. Thanks Front Ranger. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

As Ellemeno pointed out, it was my observation most authors were female. Did I get a rash of shit for that statement. I was referred to as a major misogynist by one slash author who wasn't even participating in the discussion.

To make the point most authors were in it for themselves, the first nastiness and banning occurred at DCF in the slash threads. The viciousness was actually funny--claws and fangs and everyone involved was female. Most contained pornographic content and some here at Bettermost was what I consider pedophilia. With Focus Features and Proulx publisher representatives monitoring these threads, how can  anyone blame her?

Brad

Katie77:
If you are referring to the egos of the writers fo fan fic, Brad, I agree with you also.

Before I joined Bettermost, I was on the Yahoo Brokeback site, and got friendly with another member (female) who considered herself a good writer. She started writing a fan fiction story, and emailed chapter by chapter to her friends. I was really enjoying the story, and I was amazed that an "amateur" could write so well,she used to push me for comments on every chapter and I complimented her many times. Then she took a different course in the story at about chapter 14, and I told her as tactfully as I could, that I felt she had gone off track. She wrote back a nasty letter to me, and I never heard from her again.

We had not just been emailing the fan fiction, we had become freinds, and talked about many many things, for months and months, then all of a sudden she was gone. I wasn not impressed.

Then another time, I went into a slash site, and started reading another story, by one of the regular writers in there....I enjoyed that story too, and waited eagerly each week for a new chapter, then it got to the final chapter, and she said, I have personal things I need to attend to, will write next week, then it was supposed to be the week after that....I went into that site every day to see if she had completed the story and never did she finish it.

That was my two and only two attempts to enjoy fan fiction, and I know I was pretty unlucky, and I know some of my friends are absolutely addicted to it, but I just cant get into it now.

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