Resurrecting the Movies thread...

[milomorris]

Your assumption about the appropriate ages to address the subject of violence and sex is highly debatable. But even if your argument is granted, there's violence and then there's violence. A parent may well choose to discuss violence with, say, a 12-year-old, and might want to talk about, say, avoiding violent situations or using self defense or war or capital punishment or whatever.

But a discussion of violence and its consequences does not require having children watch as a maniac rips out someone's spinal cord or forces someone to saw off his own foot.

I agree. The violence depicted in movies is often at a level that very few humans will ever experience in their lifetimes. Movie makers even go so far as to create forms of violence that are absolutely impossible (vampires, warewolves, and supervillains for example).

But what I was getting at with my comparison of sexual content with violent content is that pre-pubescent children are far more likely to experience actual violence in some form or another than they are to experience actual sex. I was hearing "Don't hit your brother" many years before I heard "Wear a rubber." I also witnessed my first shooting the summer before I turned 6. It was police-related. And I didn't have my first sexual encounter until many years later.

[milomorris]

Oh, good grief! Please don't play the victim.  America, and yes I resent the fact that you have appropriated the word America, deserves all the criticisms it's gets being the world's leading terrorist state.

I'm going to start a new thread so you can explain why it is you think the U.S.A. is a "terrorist state." 

[Front-Ranger]

Thank you.

[delalluvia]

In order to get back on topic - has anyone yet seen "Behind the calebra"?

I´m waiting for it to premiere over here so that I can go and see it.
I´ve been reading up lately on Liberace - he was mostly known in the US and not so much in Europe. I know of him mainly from references made about him in American movies 

Yes.  I read a review in Entertainment magazine which said it was very well done.  I recommended it to a gay co-worker - a man - who has HBO and he watched it and came back raving about it.  It was apparently very well done, the acting was superb and the story did not go over the top into camp.  He highly recommended it.

I don't have HBO, so I'm going to have to wait to see it.

[delalluvia]

Saw Star Trek into Darkness.

MUCH better than the first Star Trek movie reboot.

They actually deal with sticky ethical and moral issues like the old Star Trek did.

Cumberbatch is amazing as usual, and his character is very interesting.

Uhura and Spock's relationship is sometimes played for laughs, but on the other hand it adds to the vibe that this is Star Trek 90210 as almost all the characters over the age of 35 are not present.

[oilgun]

No, you're missing your point. Your comment was yet another expression of your disdain for Americans. Drones have to plenty to do with people who don't like America.

Correction, my comment was an expression of disdain for the MPAA.  BTW, the drones create way more 'terrorists' then it assassinates.

[oilgun]

Then let me put your "wonder" to rest.

The quality of the film is not a point of my discussion. The content is. The author of the opus on which the film is based has evaluated the sex scenes as pornographic. Gil, FrontRanger, and Lord knows who else have assumed that Americans will treat the film "unfavorably" before any action has even been taken by the MPAA. That is plain old prejudice on their part.

Honestly, I really don't care about the film one way or another. What I care about is the fact that people here at Bettermost seem to think its OK to be bigoted against Americans.

Yeah and some others are bigoted against gay men, especially the effeminate ones, and that is also tolerated so get over it.

Besides, this conversation is not about Americans, it's about the MPAA and how out of touch they are.  They also treat foreign and independent films (ie: the competition) more harshly so that's another black mark for Blue.  They also treat homosexual sex more harshly so I doubt an uncut version will reach the screens in the US. 

Oh, and my comment was not plain old prejudice on my part.  It's an educated assumption based on the MPAA's track record of laughable rating decisions.

[oilgun]

I'm going to start a new thread so you can explain why it is you think the U.S.A. is a "terrorist state." 

Let me know where it is.

[milomorris]

Correction, my comment was an expression of disdain for the MPAA.  BTW, the drones create way more 'terrorists' then it assassinates.

You didn't cite the MPAA specifically. You cited Americans as a whole.

As for drones, please see the Terrorist thread.

[milomorris]

Let me know where it is.

Here: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,50526.msg646781.html#msg646781