Corona - what does help you? Your fears, thoughts, everything

[Penthesilea]

In my neighborhood, I rarely see anyone in stores without masks, and when I do I am disapproving, if only because it's rude to make others uncomfortable that way.

Yes. That alone should be reason enough to wear a mask in stores, etc. Be considerate, no matter whether you 'believe' in masks or not. Could be so simple.

On the streets I see people both ways. But it's never difficult to get six feet or more away from others. So I don't wear a mask myself when walking my dog.

There's no advice about masks on the streets, so (almost?) nobody wears them on the street. I also don't wear one when walking my dog. I live rural and am out in the fields in two minutes.
In stores however, they're mandatory and it's against the law not to wear them.

[serious crayons]

There's no advice about masks on the streets, so (almost?) nobody wears them on the street. I also don't wear one when walking my dog. I live rural and am out in the fields in two minutes.

My neighborhood is residential, with yards, sidewalks, boulevards, wide streets, bike lanes, etc., so it's completely easy to socially distance; people frequently start walking in the middle of the street. Within five minutes from here are a creek, two lakes, and parks in every compass direction. Besides, I rarely pass more than 6-10 people on my walks. Still, I do see a few people wearing masks when they're not remotely close to anybody. They're usually older and may have other health conditions.

As you get closer to downtown, the streets are more congested. They're denser and busier, if you're walking you're passing people constantly, there's no yard to step up in, and veering into the street isn't an option. In those sorts of neighborhoods I see many more people masking at every age. Many people, especially young adults and old adults, like that denser development, as do I myself. I wonder if that will change.

 
 

[CellarDweller]

Well, there are stories circulating now about 8 Trump staffers that were at the Tulsa event testing positive for Covid-19.

[Penthesilea]

After almost three weeks without any new Corona case in my county plus the two neighboring counties, we're back to one new case. This sh*t ain't over yet. 

[brianr]

All our new cases are from New Zealanders returning home. They all have to spend 14 days in a guarded hotel. More and more are returning because they think back home is safest even if they have made a life overseas.   However I think my vague plans to visit Australia (I have the credit with the airlines) in late September are less and less likely.

[serious crayons]

After almost three weeks without any new Corona case in my county plus the two neighboring counties, we're back to one new case. This sh*t ain't over yet. 

Only one new case? Wow. I didn't realize the spread was that slowed down anywhere (except New Zealand  ).

Looks like Ennis made the right decision to stay in Wyoming. Only 20 deaths there -- the lowest state in the U.S., though followed closely by Montana with 21.

No other state comes close; only about three others are less than 100.

[CellarDweller]

Hiya!

Lee, I'm moving this quote from my blog to here, as I thought you may see it here first.

Today I met with my traveling buddies who I'm going to Europe with (hopefully) in mid-August. We've kind of put off looking at the lodging photos and the itinerary because we didn't want to get our hopes up too much. But if all goes well, we'll be visiting nine countries! England, France, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Italy and Spain. Oh, and San Marino!

I saw this on the site for the New York Times.   I had to do a quick grab, as I'm not a subscriber there.




E.U. May Bar American Travelers as It Reopens Borders, Citing Failures on Virus

European Union officials are racing to agree on who can visit the bloc as of July 1 based on how countries of origin are faring with new coronavirus cases. Americans, so far, are excluded, according to draft lists seen by The New York Times.

[Penthesilea]

Hiya!

Lee, I'm moving this quote from my blog to here, as I thought you may see it here first.



I saw this on the site for the New York Times.   I had to do a quick grab, as I'm not a subscriber there.




E.U. May Bar American Travelers as It Reopens Borders, Citing Failures on Virus

European Union officials are racing to agree on who can visit the bloc as of July 1 based on how countries of origin are faring with new coronavirus cases. Americans, so far, are excluded, according to draft lists seen by The New York Times.

Yes, I've read that, too. It irritated the heck out of me because it's only half correct.

So far:

• all borders have been closed since mid or end March, even within the EU (exceptions for trade in goods and business commuters living near borders).
• Then single countries started to re-open some borders to selected neighboring countries.
• Now (recently) all borders within the EU plus 4 associated countries (Norway, Switzerland, etc) are open again, even for touristic purposes.

For the rest of the world, the EU borders stay closed so far (more or less, there's exceptions). Hence it's nothing new that the EU plans to bar US travelers from coming over. They have been barred for months already.

The difference is that now they're contemplating to re-open to some non-EU countries, and if so, under which circumstances and to whom they should open.
Since the US is doing really bad regarding Corona, they're surely not among the countries who can hope to visit the EU soon.

And just for the sake of completeness: the US has barred all travelers from the EU since back in March, too. And doesn't have any plans to change that anytime soon.

Bonus fact: your beloved orange one (satire!) has barred all EU inhabitants, but explicitly not the British, as a kind of reward to them since they left the EU. A big show was made of that. But it didn't last long. British people have then been barred from entering the US, too. Only the orange one didn't tout it as loudly.

[Penthesilea]

In terms of what this means for Lee's and Adam's trip: I don't know. Things are changing fast and are changing all the time.

But I do have a gut feeling: I think that this summer and early fall it won't be possible to travel between our continents. Monika and I also had travel plans for Canada in August. I don't think it will come to pass.

But you never know, like I already said: maybe things change for the better faster than I think. I wish you good luck for your travel plans!

[Jeff Wrangler]

In terms of what this means for Lee's and Adam's trip: I don't know. Things are changing fast and are changing all the time.

But I do have a gut feeling: I think that this summer and early fall it won't be possible to travel between our continents. Monika and I also had travel plans for Canada in August. I don't think it will come to pass.

But you never know, like I already said: maybe things change for the better faster than I think. I wish you good luck for your travel plans!

Even if it becomes possible, is it wise to do it?

Is your health--indeed, your life--worth a visit to Lichtenstein? I'm not saying that in an attempt to be funny. Right now I'm very reluctant to travel anywhere in the U.S., even here in the Northeast, other than to visit my father.