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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2007, 03:28:22 pm »
Hello, Brother Patrick... I hope you are recovering from whatever circumstances you have recently experienced. Although, in some ways, I fear the collapse of the mind and corruption of the spirit far more than any physical disastrophe.  I thought this would be an interesting chance to perhaps share some of my mind with you, or at least those things which have helped to manifest it.... If I might be so bold. This may not at all entirely be a good time to do this, but I would like to share the titles of the books on my bookshelf with you and see if you have read any.  It is lacking in many ways of a variety of types of texts including, I am sad to say, poetry (besides my own), but there is only so much room.

Daniel!
With your intelligence, you would quickly 'blow me away.'  But you did post something somewhere about LGBT people who have left a LEGACY behind them and I was 'told' that that is ONE of the THINGS that we're here for!

As far as your fears, I can only share what has happened and continues to happen.  My relationship with the Beloved is just awesome!  And I have EXPERIENCED it from Both Sides!   Make a sign for yourself and put in on the bathroom mirror.

Print in large letters:  NO FEAR

Because there just isn't any reason to hang on to any.   Your 'mind and spirit' will continue to evolve forever.   One of the ways our Creator revealed himself reminded me so much of you because of the way he talked.  He talked the way you write.  And he was hilarious!  My next door neighbor that night 'banged on the walls' because I was laughing so hard.   (This was like between 2 and 3 in the morning.)

How can I help you cast away doubt and fear?   So much of what you read will probably be way above me, but, we've got a good library and I could check.   Oh Daniel, if you only could experience what I experienced....   We wouldn't be having this conversation because you would just UNDERSTAND!   Can you imagine communicating with Pure Thought?   There are no words to describe it because it's apples and oranges...


{{Heavenly Hugs}} and Welcome!  I've been hoping you would show up!

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2009 Anniversary note:  Between the dates of August 6th 2007 and August 15th 2007 I was in a state which I have named "TWIXT"  in that I was both experiencing everyday life as well as a 'glimpse' of the afterlife and was able to communicate with God easily.  Since I thought I was about to die, it didn't seem weird at all.  AND I am glad that I remained "TWIXT" from August 12-15, 2007 so I could 'reground' myself to the planet.  You all have no idea how much I miss those intimate conversations with The One Who Is~!  Sometimes, in contemplative prayer I hear God's voice but those are rare and totally unexpected.  This incredible gift started at morning prayers on August 6th 2007, became DIRECT on August 12th when I 'died" and then continued until I said evening prayers on August 15th, 2007.
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Lean on me, let our hearts beat in time,
Feel strength from the hands that have held you so long.
Who cares where we go on this rugged old road
In a world that may say that we're wrong.

...Cause I know - A love that will never grow old.

Gustavo Santaolalla & Bernie Taupin

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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2007, 04:47:47 pm »
I think I can imagine communicating in Pure Thought.... it is like being the Mirror of Infinity, except that you realize eventually that the Mirror is not needed; Infinity just is and always has been, and whether or not it needs to be reflected upon remains to be seen. Is the mind clear? Is the spirit true? Then cast off rejected morbidity when the time comes and break the Mirror, revealing Infinity to itself without reflection.
Why do we consume what we consume?
Why do we believe what we believe?
Why do we accept what we accept?
You have a body, a mind, and a soul.... You have a responsibility.

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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2007, 02:52:03 am »
I think I can imagine communicating in Pure Thought.... it is like being the Mirror of Infinity, except that you realize eventually that the Mirror is not needed; Infinity just is and always has been, and whether or not it needs to be reflected upon remains to be seen. Is the mind clear? Is the spirit true? Then cast off rejected morbidity when the time comes and break the Mirror, revealing Infinity to itself without reflection.

You're on the right track for sure but it's really difficult to communicate that which IS.  Scripture says somewhere - "'now through a mirror darkly, then face to face'."  Our minds and our 'essences' are not quite the same.  One could call our 'essences' our spirits but that word has so much 'trash' attached to it that I think 'essence' is better.  I was in a place with One who knew me intimately AND loved me completely AND unconditionally.  Our communication was not with words as we know them but with something like a complete 'connection' understood simultaneously.  Again that is a misnomer but I don't have a better 'word' for how one experiences Pure Thought.   Thus, the following Truth would not only be understood, it would be experienced in the 'moment'.

LOVE without FEAR = UNION with the One Who IS!

I didn't have to 'cast off' anything, that was done FOR me.  I think most of that happens during our lives here on this planet.  What remains will be cast off as we enter into the "Everlasting Now."   Infinity is another word with a lot of 'baggage.'  I now understand infinity to be the "Everlasting Now" with all of 'time' available simultaneously because time is a creation as are we.  The most important thing is the 'moment' and every 'moment' that there ever was IS available simultaneously in the "Everlasting Now".  Wow, that sounds like I'm tripping on LSD.   It's just really difficult to get across concepts that I DID understand but NOW don't know of any better way to describe them.  And the irony of similar things is how unimportant is the material that we get so hung up on here on this planet!  I really don't remember most of my questions nor the answers anymore but I remember a LOT of "OF COURSE!" statements because when one looks at 'things, ideas, concepts' from a certain perspective it all becomes so obvious and then - so many things are just ultimately unimportant.

OTOH, the LEGACY that each of us leaves behind is Very Important.   You, Daniel, have a tremendous Legacy!  I was told quite clearly that THIS is the time for powerful TRUTHS to be revealed because the planet now has the best communication that it has ever had and will only get better.   I don't believe for an instant that I am 'alone' in getting these revelations from the One Who Is.   There will be MANY others.


You know what, it was easier to communicate with God!  It's just that I stand in awe of your innate intelligence and don't want to come across as a babbling idiot.   Tell me about your books...  Repost your piece on Legacies, please.

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Lean on me, let our hearts beat in time,
Feel strength from the hands that have held you so long.
Who cares where we go on this rugged old road
In a world that may say that we're wrong.

...Cause I know - A love that will never grow old.

Gustavo Santaolalla & Bernie Taupin

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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2007, 10:03:31 am »
I have a testament about Brother Patrick's personal prayer I thought I'd share here.  This weekend I was worrying about being put into a position of either lying to my mother or telling her something really upsetting to us both that would have caused her a great deal of worry, pain, and disappointment.  I was really struggling with it.  I kept thinking that this could be one of our last conversations and I didn't want it to be one where I lied to her.  (I haven't lied to Mom since I was a teenager) in addition to lying generally being a bad plan for a many reasons.  On the other hand, I really wanted to spare her the pain this knowledge would have caused.  I couldn't come to a solution - the pros and cons were bouncing off each other in my brain making me feel desperate and insane...so I told myself just do what Patrick might do and tried to let it go.

“Engineer my circumstances, O Lord, according to your Will.”

In the final resolution, the subject just didn't arise.  She was under a misconception I didn't correct, but I did not really get put into a place where I had to decide to lie outright (I know omission still counts, but I'm still so grateful that I didn't cause her pain, at least this time).

This may also be a good illustration of 'Do no pay interest on debts you haven't yet incurred.'
"Laß sein. Laß sein."

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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2007, 11:37:07 am »
I don't recall posting anything on Legacies, but perhaps this is what you are referring to.

"If you had one wish, what would it be?"
All too often is this question asked of me.
I have no answer, no swift, easy reply.
But I know a tale of one with such a plight:
One wish to spend, and make it right.
It's mostly false, as true tales are,
but filled with truth, for teaching hearts.

There was a man who thought himself greater than all others.
He sought the truth of his Bible, and of his Christian brothers.
The ways of purity he thought he knew,
His heart was just, his sins were few.
One night he dreamed, as he often did,
Of the angels, on his clean white bed.
One came down to speak with him. Her hair gleaming like fire.
Her skin glowed with the milky light of true holy desire.
She knew the man thought himself holy, and that he had much to learn.
For the truest knowledge evaded him, of heavenly ascension and hellish burn.
But still she took pity on him and offered her trust.
And there he spoke with his holy lust.
He greeted her and cried in her presence.
She smiled, and nodded in acquiescence.
When her musical voice was turned
The man listened scarce alarmed.
"If you had but one wish in all the world,
to where would your heart be hurled?
To a heavenly plane of unearthly beauty,
Or the hellish fires of sinful duty?"
The holy man replied with joy,
His heart leaped up; he danced like a toy
to be given this rare glimpse of divinity.
The angels eyes mirrored all eternity.
She waited for his response.
So he became still in the angelic space,
thought long and hard on this one case.
What could he wish that would bring the Lord's light
upon the Earth in all its sight.
What could he wish that would make the world pure,
and then through its light be the immortal lure.
The grace of the heavens weighed down on his plate.
Did he but realize it, flames lapped at his feet.
And then he thought he had it, a wish to hearts untie.
A wish that would make the world better, and make evil die.

"I wish that no homosexual was ever graced with birth,
that no catamite or sodomite ever walked the planet Earth."

The angel's expression remained serene.
Of all the heavens she could be queen.
"So it is this great sin you would undo.
Granted, but first, let me show something to you."
The angel reached out her light and took the parson's hand.
With glorious wings they quickly flew across a spirit-land.
There stood two doorways, amethyst and ruby.
The holy man wondered what they could be.
"These doors show your destiny,
for even now I will let you free
from the wish which you've just made."
The light in her eyes began to fade.
Fiilled with pride and religious dignity was the holy man's stance.
"I've made the right decision. Let me have my inheritance."

The angel nodded, sullen in sadness' twists.
She turned the parson toward the door of amethyst.
With a wave of her hand, the doorway became
a window of liquid water and flame.
"Then see what travesty your wish invokes
Upon the wheel of common spokes."
The world of fiery darkness which in that window appeared,
was not the one he'd hoped to see, but rather that he'd feared.
"But..... how can this be?"
He asked in baffled mystery.

"No Nazi code ever broken allowed them free entry,
and the world's a much crueler place with no Statue of Liberty.
No Eiffel Tower ever built to represent the people of a nation.
No Sistine Chapel ever painted to bring the soul's elation.
60,000,000 voices call out from the dredges of slavery...
Why is it that you shake, dear sir. Have you no bravery?"

The angel waved her hand across the portal once more.
Its liquid trembled then froze within the door.
The images that flew across its surface haunted the holy man.
He saught to avert his eyes. Sweat down from his forehead ran.
With a firm but gentle grasp, the angel turned him towards
the world that he'd created, giving him his just rewards.

"No Declaration of Independence written to make a man his own.
No Republic ever founded within the streets of Rome.
And who has ever heard good of this Democratic affair?
The Greek state lies in ruins, if ever it was there.

"No Bard of Avon defeated the sword.
No Walden's Pond ever saw word.
Much of poetry is now lost to an uncertain fate.
The poems that helped men make love out of hate.

"No David ever Goliath slew.
No state of Israel made new.
Without the traditions set forth by one Alexander,
the world is left to wonder and meander
through the darkest age it had ever known.
See now, what seeds you've sown?
No Renaissance ever birthed man's souls.
No Philosopher ever stoked the coals
of his own inner being, questioning it freely.
His wonder was found to be unseemly,
when all things were laid out so plain:
the lack of choices already set the game."

The parson stood and looked on in dread.
His heart and soul encased in lead,
he turned to the angel, who waited, eyes covered.
"Let me undo this wish, dear angel, I'll make another."
The angel held her hand aloft.
"Too late, now that your voice is soft,
No other wish can be made.
The stone is set, the piece is played."
She watched him squirm in his misery,
and was herself overcome with pity.
"You can undo this wish and return to your bed.
But tell me, what goes through your head?"
The parson looked up with some relief.
"Oh thank you, dear angel, I'll be brief:

"I swear by the heavens, I'll make up for this harm that I've done.
I wish for all those born with homosexuality to be born with none."

The angel turned away from him, her voice rising with ire.
"I cannot grant your wish, I said. Your offer has expired."
The angel turned back again, her eyes lit with blazing fire.
"And even if I could, do you think it would change desire
or make a better world than the one which you made there?"
The parson shrugged and shook his head.
He wanted nothing more than to be back on his bed.
"What makes you think that all those things that were inspired:
the art, the literature, technology, and spirit's fire,
were not all bound in that very thing, the very same device,
that you would strip from them: their "sin" in your eyes?"

"But the Bible speaks of the men of Sodom-"
"Who lost all reason and sense of wisdom
when blinded by their lust." The angel spoke with seas of flame,
trying desperately not to blame.

"And what of the laws of Leviticus? Should we not hear these as well?"
"They speak of the ritual sexual acts, darkness forbidden in Hell."
The angel sighed and knew that he
was not as spiritual as he seemed.
"Too many times has the Bible been translated, and used for power's sake.
It's hard to follow the rules there, the letters too easily shaked.
Men treat it like a game of Scrabble, and make what laws they will.
Read with your heart, not your eyes. Some are from God, and some evil."

"Did not Christ speak against the very treas-"
"No" her voice thundered with the depths of the seas.
"He never mentioned it, not once, but shook the eon,
when he healed the Beloved of the Centurion."

The angel stepped from his path, the ragged holy man,
Who could find no other argument in his plan.
Crestfallen, pride broken, his spiritual strength
Pushed him from the amethyst, a great length.
He moved with the slowness of some lost soul,
uncertain, and weary, afraid that he'd fall.
She stepped behind him once again and held her hand aloft.
The holy light caressed his back like a feather, warm and soft.
And with the gentlest nudge, she sent,
the parson, now pardoned and bent,
through the ruby portal to his own rest,
where he landed upon his chest,
in the cool, silk sheets of his white, tasseled bed.
He awoke in the darkness and groped at his head.
Looked up in the silent darkness, felt no calm.
He looked at his watch, then lifted his palm.
He stood from the bed and then fed his fish,
Wondering at all that had come from one wish.
Why do we consume what we consume?
Why do we believe what we believe?
Why do we accept what we accept?
You have a body, a mind, and a soul.... You have a responsibility.

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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2007, 03:01:12 am »
In the final resolution, the subject just didn't arise.  She was under a misconception I didn't correct, but I did not really get put into a place where I had to decide to lie outright (I know omission still counts, but I'm still so grateful that I didn't cause her pain, at least this time).

This may also be a good illustration of 'Do no pay interest on debts you haven't yet incurred.'

Lynne, my dear girl, you have experienced one of the most 'common' manifestations of "The Perfect Prayer" that I know of.  You did right because discernment is needed often and you did just what you needed to do when you needed to do it.  I can't count the times I have Not had to talk about something that I was uncomfortable with because the situation never gave me the chance to do it anyway.  I wouldn't label that 'omission' but DP (Divine Providence!).

Thanks for your input!  Isn't Daniel's post incredible?

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Lean on me, let our hearts beat in time,
Feel strength from the hands that have held you so long.
Who cares where we go on this rugged old road
In a world that may say that we're wrong.

...Cause I know - A love that will never grow old.

Gustavo Santaolalla & Bernie Taupin

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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2007, 03:14:49 am »
I don't recall posting anything on Legacies, but perhaps this is what you are referring to.

Daniel!!!
This is EXACTLY what I was talking about when I was told that "the answer has already been posted by Daniel on BetterMost regarding legacies."   What a different world we would live in if it were not for the Legacies of "The People Of The Rainbow" and their Loving Friends!  This beautiful prose doesn't explicitly call it that but I'm sure you would agree that it is most definitely implied.   I think most people are unaware of their Essences.  You are totally in touch with yours or you couldn't have written this feast of words.

{{{Thanks, Love & Blessings from The One Who IS}}}

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« Last Edit: September 18, 2007, 07:37:21 am by Br. Patrick »
Lean on me, let our hearts beat in time,
Feel strength from the hands that have held you so long.
Who cares where we go on this rugged old road
In a world that may say that we're wrong.

...Cause I know - A love that will never grow old.

Gustavo Santaolalla & Bernie Taupin

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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2007, 10:37:03 am »
BetterMostians,

I made this .mp3 for "ifyoucantfixit" - Janice, for turning me on to the song...

...but also gift it to you all!  I play a duet with Rufus Wainwright~!  (Hope he doesn't mind)   It's as small as I could make it.

Right-Click and check on Save as...

{{{with all my love}}}

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« Last Edit: September 19, 2007, 10:45:47 am by Br. Patrick »
Lean on me, let our hearts beat in time,
Feel strength from the hands that have held you so long.
Who cares where we go on this rugged old road
In a world that may say that we're wrong.

...Cause I know - A love that will never grow old.

Gustavo Santaolalla & Bernie Taupin

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Re: br. patrick and his near-death experiences...
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2007, 08:40:45 pm »




          How do I thank you for something so wonderful....That was exquisite.  You are a wonderful musician, and I am very sure he would have loved it...He likes musicians and uses a lot in his show...You would have been a blessing to all...          I am just glad someone loved it as much as i do....I am so thankful you are doing better too.  Continue to heal, and get better....       Friend Janice



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« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2007, 12:25:27 am »
          How do I thank you for something so wonderful....That was exquisite.  You are a wonderful musician, and I am very sure he would have loved it...He likes musicians and uses a lot in his show...You would have been a blessing to all...          I am just glad someone loved it as much as i do....I am so thankful you are doing better too.  Continue to heal, and get better....       Friend Janice

Janice, if it weren't for you I wouldn't even know that the song existed.  Instead of my usual morning prayers of thanksgiving, I recorded this 'duet' and the "One Who IS' is very pleased!  I Love it to pieces! I wish you the best of health!

If anyone knows where I can legally BUY the song, I would be very grateful!

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Lean on me, let our hearts beat in time,
Feel strength from the hands that have held you so long.
Who cares where we go on this rugged old road
In a world that may say that we're wrong.

...Cause I know - A love that will never grow old.

Gustavo Santaolalla & Bernie Taupin