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TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger About Ambien
« on: January 23, 2008, 11:53:58 am »
Editor Note: I am keeping the TMZ stuff apart from the ordinary news accounts due to the lesser standards of journalism employed by TMZ, which may or may not result in accurate stories, but don't meet the usual standards used by the rest of the media.

TMZ Shocker: Nicholson Warned Ledger About His Drug Use

The paparazzi broke the news of Heath Ledger's death to Jack Nicholson in London last night -- and he had an eerie reaction to the news.

The photogs told Jack that Heath overdosed, and Nicholson responded: "I warned him."

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« Last Edit: January 24, 2008, 11:30:23 pm by Ellemeno »
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Re: TMZ Accounts - "Doesn't Look Like Suicide"
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2008, 11:58:33 am »
Multiple sources in the NYPD tell TMZ, although it's too early to know, it's looking like Heath Ledger's death was accidental and not suicide.

There have been numerous reports suggesting that Ledger took his own life by ingesting a boatload of pills. Contrary to initial reports, the pills that were "scattered" around Ledger's apartment were actually in containers. We're told the containers were not littering the apartment. Rather, some were in the medicine cabinet and some in other rooms. As we reported, one container was on Ledger's nightstand. Cops found sleeping pills and an anti-anxiety drug in the bedroom.

A rep for the family tells TMZ that detectives have been in touch with Ledger's next of kin and the cops told them that so far there is no evidence suggesting suicide. Of course, until the toxicology reports come in, no one knows for sure.

A well-connected source in the NYPD told us this morning the "operating theory" right now within the department is that it was an accidental death, not suicide.

It's unclear if Ledger's health was a factor. As we first reported, he had pneumonia at the time of his death.
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Re: TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger About Drugs
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 01:13:07 am »
I found a blog that was talking about that quote from Nicholson and that he was talking about Heath playing the Joker (not drugs). That Heath got so far into his character that he may have run himself down...bad karma?

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Re: TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger About Drugs
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008, 01:14:48 am »
I found a blog that was talking about that quote from Nicholson and that he was talking about Heath playing the Joker (not drugs). That Heath got so far into his character that he may have run himself down...bad karma?

Ah, I get it now.  I'm really hoping that's what Nicholson meant.  I've been struggling with this all afternoon...

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Re: TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger About Drugs
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 01:20:31 am »
Jack has been a bit tacky regarding Heath in the Joker role but I can't imagine he would be crass enough to make that statement in regards to the death.

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Re: TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger About Drugs
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008, 01:25:12 am »
This is the post:

There was something a bit odd today. Someone asked Jack Nicholson about Heath. All he said was, "I warned him." The interviewer thought he was talking about drugs... I got this weird feeling he was talking about playing the role of the Joker....  From what Heath said about 'finding' Ennis and becoming him, it's got my brain running in circles... Among some Wiccan groups, their is what is called invoking, or calling down the Moon, in which the person calls the spirit of the god they are working with into themselves.... There are all kinds of Jungian overtones to this... And, I've seen the result of this the year I was at Diana's Grove and they worked with the myth of Baba Yagah and Vaselisa the Brave... Let's just say after that year, Reclaiming Collective never went that route again...

I'm wondering if Heath took the role of the Joker into himself to where he experinced it as being this character... I remember how he said Ennis hung with him for months... If the same thing was happening after The Black Knight, no wonder he couldn't sleep and was ill.  Throw playing Bod Dylan in right after that.... and, Hooo Boy!   

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Re: TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger About Drugs
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 01:25:18 am »
I know it's easy to misunderstand sound bites out of context, but it sure sounds to me like Jack Nicholson has been bitter about Heath's Joker success.  Maybe it's not coming across right, and I am misunderstanding.

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Re: TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger About Drugs
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2008, 01:26:31 am »
This is the post:

There was something a bit odd today. Someone asked Jack Nicholson about Heath. All he said was, "I warned him." The interviewer thought he was talking about drugs... I got this weird feeling he was talking about playing the role of the Joker....  From what Heath said about 'finding' Ennis and becoming him, it's got my brain running in circles... Among some Wiccan groups, their is what is called invoking, or calling down the Moon, in which the person calls the spirit of the god they are working with into themselves.... There are all kinds of Jungian overtones to this... And, I've seen the result of this the year I was at Diana's Grove and they worked with the myth of Baba Yagah and Vaselisa the Brave... Let's just say after that year, Reclaiming Collective never went that route again...

I'm wondering if Heath took the role of the Joker into himself to where he experinced it as being this character... I remember how he said Ennis hung with him for months... If the same thing was happening after The Black Knight, no wonder he couldn't sleep and was ill.  Throw playing Bod Dylan in right after that.... and, Hooo Boy!  


[Elle nods in understanding.]

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Re: TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger About Drugs
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2008, 01:32:42 am »
Jack has been a bit tacky regarding Heath in the Joker role but I can't imagine he would be crass enough to make that statement in regards to the death.

Oh, I didn't even think of it *that way*.  Yikes.  I first thought it was about drugs.  Then when I read Jess's post, I thought it was about simply playing the Joker and how hard it might be.  Now this points out that Nicholson's warning was death.  Eieooowww..

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Re: TMZ Accounts - Nicholson Warned Ledger
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2008, 01:41:01 am »
The BBC Entertainment report from earlier today (their evening) had Nicholson clarifying that he -was- talking about drugs.  The debate over there regards to whether they were prescription or non-prescription medications, and Nicholson is being hounded again by the paparazzi and British press (which can be equally sleazy) for clarification.  I keep the TMZ stuff in their own thread because it is not well sourced material and they tend to run with speculation... any speculation.  We'll know for sure in about ten days' time.
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